Zbigniew Brzezinski on the US-Russia-Ukraine Triangle

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Голос Америки Українською

Голос Америки Українською

Күн бұрын

In an interview with Voice of Americas Ukrainian Service, former US national security adviser and currently CSIS Counselor and Trustee Zbigniew Brzezinski shares his views on the Obama administration's initiative to reset relations with Russia, on dilemmas the US faces in its policies toward Eastern Europe, particularly Ukraine, as well as on challenges facing Ukraine today and following the next presidential elections in January. The interview was conducted by Myroslava Gongadze.

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@Pertemba40
@Pertemba40 10 жыл бұрын
If you've read "The Grand Chessboard" and can "read between the lines", pretty much you will understand from his comments the US/NATO and allies' geopolitical plans for Russia, Ukraine and Georgia. Of course it's not about "democracy" is about preventing "the vassals" (Eurasia) from rising as a superpower and challenge US imperial hegemony.
@andrewteece3496
@andrewteece3496 11 ай бұрын
Very well said
@travisrassel9978
@travisrassel9978 7 ай бұрын
The US will not make it into the new world order. Russia will lead the new world order, for a time at least.
@Lumkie0
@Lumkie0 2 ай бұрын
even if you're right, which I doubt, choosing from 2 evils, I'd choose more democratic one
@Aotubaga
@Aotubaga 2 ай бұрын
Agreed
@Brad-RB
@Brad-RB 7 күн бұрын
@@Lumkie0 if only the west were truly democratic.
@brdmohamedali
@brdmohamedali 2 жыл бұрын
he described clearly the relation between internal and external geopolitical forces that shape the destiny of any country! that is his great lesson from history. take the experience of Poland, this country did not ask to be European member, not NATO member, until Poland has consolidated its internal political position
@lucregainmethod
@lucregainmethod Жыл бұрын
World class analyst.
@Malouco
@Malouco 5 ай бұрын
An Alien 👽 in flesh wisdom of Solomon
@smr144
@smr144 10 жыл бұрын
Almost 5 yrs. ago, he predicted Ukrainian loss of territory...
@geoeconomics5629
@geoeconomics5629 Жыл бұрын
USA set the plans for war in Ukraine in 1992
@yas44
@yas44 Жыл бұрын
He didn’t predict, Trilateral commission infiltrated the US government. He one of its originators, it was the plan.
@geoeconomics5629
@geoeconomics5629 Жыл бұрын
@@yas44 An existential threat to the USA UK Is GermanyRussia strategic partnership
@medusaslair
@medusaslair Жыл бұрын
He didn't "predict" it, it was planned.
@michaelistoma8356
@michaelistoma8356 5 ай бұрын
​@@medusaslairby whom lol?
@tatomykola
@tatomykola 14 жыл бұрын
Good man! Ukrainian friend!
@donone1493
@donone1493 4 жыл бұрын
What do you say now after the lies
@donfrancisco8406
@donfrancisco8406 Жыл бұрын
@@donone1493 What lies?
@cango5679
@cango5679 Жыл бұрын
@@donfrancisco8406 all of them
@brdmohamedali
@brdmohamedali 2 жыл бұрын
if someone or good political leader want to understand the tragic events now happening in eastern Europe and especially the war on Ukraine, he must listen and listen again to this important interview with an historical diplomatic figure as Zbigniew Brzezinski
@JanWasp
@JanWasp Жыл бұрын
Hate is self-destructive in the long term, isn´t it, Zbig? You knew that.
@markusgerlachartisthandpan8866
@markusgerlachartisthandpan8866 2 ай бұрын
Meanwhile even a lot of polish people have realized that Nato, EU and the US have no friends but only interests...And by the way, how do you want to eleminate a country like Russia? No matter if you like them or not. And by the way, were does most of the uranium come from to support US Nuklear Programs? Hipocracy of its best...
@KodyTC
@KodyTC 6 жыл бұрын
А чому без перекладу?
@El-flaco-d
@El-flaco-d 2 жыл бұрын
Now it’s 5 to 10 years later.
@crmcl3713
@crmcl3713 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent analysis.
@O0o__.
@O0o__. 2 ай бұрын
2024...
@andreasakritas3051
@andreasakritas3051 Жыл бұрын
Prophet RIP
@Ese_osa
@Ese_osa 23 күн бұрын
I think most Ukrainian knows which country I’m talking about… well it’s 2024 and now we know, the USA and nuland 🍪
@kessmypersainass
@kessmypersainass 14 жыл бұрын
what a man...this guy i tell ya .......smart smart smart man....gets the big picture all the time!
@guillermo3471
@guillermo3471 2 жыл бұрын
He knows their plan, doesn't make him smart. Only a traitor
@markoukraine
@markoukraine 14 жыл бұрын
Bravo, Mr. Brzezinski!
@talinnia
@talinnia 13 жыл бұрын
@andyhello23 it is much easier to count those who don't hate Russia :)
@Bosirant
@Bosirant 14 жыл бұрын
As usual, Brzezinski is spot on. Excellent advice for Ukraine!
@sasautut5948
@sasautut5948 6 ай бұрын
yes
@masternmargarita
@masternmargarita 2 жыл бұрын
Listening to him, one gets the idea that the more Westward you are, the more exceptional you are.
@kijijipro6725
@kijijipro6725 Жыл бұрын
Because that's always been true. For all the stereotypes towards the west or against the west (in the last 2-3 decades) the West has always stood for open societies, pluralism, democracy, and wealth. You can say it strays from those idealisms significantly, but you cannot say any other society approaches them as far as the West.
@masternmargarita
@masternmargarita Жыл бұрын
@@kijijipro6725 there is no real democracy or real freedom of choice. "All for democracy and nothing for autocracy people," is a derivative of the Fascism ideology: "All for ourselves and nothing for other people, seems, in every age of the world, to have been the vile maxim of the masters of mankind." - Adam Smith
@yylaminator
@yylaminator 9 ай бұрын
They stood for lies, wars, conflicts, exploitation, rule of power, illusion, consumerism, racism
@MediaBear
@MediaBear 7 ай бұрын
@@kijijipro6725hear hear
@Windband1
@Windband1 8 ай бұрын
Demon.
@tadasblindavicius8889
@tadasblindavicius8889 2 жыл бұрын
- To isolate Ukraine internationally, Russian policymakers have also skillfully exploited the Clinton administration’s preoccupation with Ukraine's nuclear status. Playing on American fears (and the administration's evident preference for Russian control over Ukraine's nuclear weapons), Moscow was quite successful in portraying the new leaders in Kiev as a menace to international stability. Ukraine's ineptitude in conveying its concerns to the West also intensified its isolation and therefore its sense of vulnerability. -Zbigniew Brzezinski (Foreign Affairs, April 1994)
@urlauburlaub2222
@urlauburlaub2222 5 ай бұрын
The sad thing seems to be, that nothing really changed even after the war started. Take a look at the Democrats in the US. Not only don't they have a youth and are overaged, they are just pushed aside by bullshiters from Moscow not only because of age but infiltration.
@El-flaco-d
@El-flaco-d 2 жыл бұрын
Now there trying to make Putin seem crazy
@nlb1231
@nlb1231 12 жыл бұрын
If i could have a chance to pick a US president, i would have pick this guy. He is smart and talk in high level. What he talks is not only about the present, he is also talk about the future.
@FinalMythology
@FinalMythology 2 жыл бұрын
Jimmy Carter? You sure about that?
@jamesmcmann8536
@jamesmcmann8536 Жыл бұрын
@@FinalMythology No, Zbig. He wants Zbig as POTUS.
@FinalMythology
@FinalMythology Жыл бұрын
@@jamesmcmann8536 Jimmy followed the same plan though, Zbig served under him
@jamesmcmann8536
@jamesmcmann8536 Жыл бұрын
@@FinalMythology Carter didn't engage Ukraine, it was still part of Soviet Union then, nobody is talking about Carter but you.
@dimdaman
@dimdaman 13 жыл бұрын
Brzezinski is 100% Correct! Much Respect! We need more men like him! Today Russia is an evil Empire, and needs to be treated accordingly. Ukraine needs young western educated politicians to take leadership, and march the Russian occupation force out of Georgia!
@tadasblindavicius8889
@tadasblindavicius8889 2 жыл бұрын
- [Putin’s] initial success [in Crimea] may tempt him to repeat that performance more directly in the far eastern provinces of Ukraine. If successful, the conclusive third phase could then be directed, through a combination of political unrest and increasingly overt use of Russian forces, to overthrow the government in Kiev. The result would thus be similar to the two phases of Hitler’s seizure of the Sudetenland after Munich in 1938 and the final occupation of Prague and Czechoslovakia in early 1939. - Zbigniew Brzezinski (The Washington Post, 03.03.14)
@robertwilson214
@robertwilson214 2 жыл бұрын
Pot..kettle..black
@halinamykhailovych791
@halinamykhailovych791 2 жыл бұрын
What right does America have to decide whether Ukraine has to rise or not? Americans are no better than Russians and should get their heads off Ukraine...We had enough of those liars as well as UK, who needs Godless, pagan America and UK nothing saint.
@geoeconomics5629
@geoeconomics5629 Жыл бұрын
Maybe this can help you see why the USA started war in Ukraine ? For America the chief geopolitical prize is Russia - Zbignew Brzezinski
@blip1
@blip1 Жыл бұрын
Russia started the war 🤷‍♂️ The USA did not transport Russian troops into Ukraine, and as soon as Russia was claiming to be "surrounded by NATO" it was clear they were cooking a standard Russian fraud victim narrative to facilitate armed robbery.
@karlmall
@karlmall 11 жыл бұрын
If Russia has hegemonial ambitions and undermines Georgian or Ukranian politics: "EVIL RUSSIA!" If the United States have hegemonial ambitions and openly invades Iraq: "Ok. that's something different." It's not that I like Putin very much and I am very well aware of Russia's lack of democracy. But Brzezinski's blind hatred of Russia (and his blind love for islamic extremists) make me feely angry.
@ThePettho
@ThePettho Жыл бұрын
Russia has ambitions to occupy, exterminate and create colonies that most other countries dropped many years ago. USA didn’t go to Irak to subjugate and conquer, no Americans settled into Irak and Arabic wasn’t banned. There are light years between the ill advised USA attack and Russias imperial expansionism’s
@johnhehir508
@johnhehir508 2 жыл бұрын
Brzezinski wanted Ukraine to be part of the Rockefeller EU, EU Flag is blue with yellow stars,While Betsy Ross was blue with white stars
@ralphbernhard1757
@ralphbernhard1757 2 жыл бұрын
*Divide and rule.* Maybe "rule" is the incorrect word in regards to the USA, and *divide and "gain an advantage"* if others struggle, fight, and then lose, is closer to what happened. The word "rule" also constitutes a "trigger", or natural aversion, which would mean psychologically oposing a theory, simply based on the words used. At the turn of the previous century ("around 1900") Washington DC set out to "divide (Europe)" and "gain" (from collective European madness). Note how such a policy doesn't necessarily have to be co-ordinated politically. So no "your a conspiwacy theowist"-allegations please, lol. In regards to Europeans, the policy basically carried itself, and today *still* carries itself, because Europeans are already sufficiently divided on multiple levels. Any actions by a strong enough 3rd party wishing to gain simply needs to avoid any form of unity in Europe, or to "nip in the bud" any signs of formal/informal agreement between Europeans (the Cold War was of course an exception, when Western European unity was useful to stand up to Eastern European Communism/SU/Warsaw Pact). One of the key strategies in "divide and rule" is to fund and support both sides in a world full of rivals for dominance, influence and markets. *Once "divided", and kept divided, there is no "single voice" to stand up to a stronger entity.* From wiki, and regarding the theory: "Divide and rule policy (Latin: divide et impera), or divide and conquer, in politics and sociology is gaining and maintaining power by breaking up larger concentrations of power into pieces that individually have less power than the one implementing the strategy." Elements of this technique involve: - creating or encouraging divisions ... - to prevent alliances that could challenge ... - distributing forces that they overpower the other - aiding and promoting those who are willing to cooperate - fostering distrust and enmity Historically, this strategy was used in many different ways by empires seeking to expand their territories." [editted for clarity re. the states/empires level of things] *"Divide and gain" would work exactly the same way.* There is an entire palate of examples of "dividing Europe" on multiple levels, and gain an advantage (see below comments thread for a few). These multiple examples are not "anecdotal", or "cherry picked", but form a pattern in a political game (in geopolitics/grand strategy = avoid the unity of "others", because unity = strength). Regarding this policy, it needs a keen sense of observation by a nation's gatekeepers, so as not to inadvertently become a part of it. *"Defeat Them in Detail: The Divide and Conquer Strategy. Look at the parts and determine how to control the individual parts, create dissension and leverage it." - Robert Greene* And "observe the details" and "leverage" is what the American Internationalism fans (US corporatism) in Washington DC did, opposed by the ever-waning forces of US Isolationism, re-inspired by Donald Trump ("Trump Doctrine") and others... All of these terms can be googled for more context. Note that in order to play this game, the "divider" must have some form of advantage. In regards to Washington DC, this advantage which it could use to attract suitors was their own rapidly increasing power. Ever important markets acting like a lighthouse for capitalist ventures. But with a geographical advantage which made it virtually impossible to invade by the late-19th Century (grand strategy), the USA already had little to fear militarily. What was "in it" for Washington DC in her favoratism of mostly Paris and London? *London was Europe's only power that could effectively unite Europe, by acting as a unifying power as a matter of policy, rather than as an aloof divider herself.* Regarding any form of united Europe, by whomever or for whatever reasons, the "gatekeepers of Empire" sat in London. A "united Europe" either with or without GB/Empire could only go through London and with London's approval. Ask Napoleon I. He knows what it resulted in when "gatekeepers" stepped forward to avoid any form of single continental unity or hegemony. These "gatekeepers" followed policies which made any form of unity impossible (per treaty, political, or as a result of wars between continental powers). At the first signs of unity/friendship on the continent, London would step in and divide using a variety of age-old, trusted and well-honed political skills up to the point of declaring preventive wars. *A divided continent also suited London just fine: the newly united Germany, was wedged in between her two main historical rivals for territory and gain: France and Russia (geopolitics/grand strategy).* The above is also known as the "avoid a single hegemony on the continent"-narrative, and is not disputed by most historians. A disunited Europe at this point, also suited Washington DC just fine. *It should not have "suited" London, because the world was changing.* The USA's first really big attempt at expanding beyond the limits of the own Monroe Doctrine, and the "promises made" not to meddle in European affairs was Spain. With the Monroe Doctrine Washington DC stated: "Don't worry Europe, we are satiated..." A declaration which would not last long. LOL, no. They were *not* satiated. After a period of strategic consolidation, leaders here were looking for easy targets whose spheres of influence could be expanded into with the formula "little ventured/a lot gained", and excuses which could be made for expanding which could be sold as "acts of benevolence". The rapidly sinking Spanish Empire offered the territories as a "gateway to China" in the form of already annexed Hawaii, the Philippenes and Guam and protection for the seaways in between. The 1898 Spanish American War was then simply the torero sticking a sword into the neck of the dying bull...a fitting allegory. Obviously "triggered" by the Japanese annexation of Formosa in 1895. To achieve all of this Washington DC needed European indifference for the cause of "weak failing empires" (Darwinism/Spain), and divided Europe happily complied... *How to succeed here if Europe decided to unite and stand up to US expansion, by offering political support to Spain?* Answer: favoratism. "Favor" one "empire" (in this case France and GB) above others...temporarily. It would be a mistake to think that these "divide and rule/conquer"-strategies and tactics started with the Roman Empire, and ended when the British left India in 1947 (Two examples usually referred to when historians examine this as a political practice). It is alive and well. *It surrounds every aspect of power politics and has been ever-present on all levels of society and politics ever since the dawn of mankind.* Today the US military doctrine of "Flexible Response" is nothing else but "divide and rule" in the disguise of "divide and gain": Divide Europeans, to enable the continued US domination of world affairs. It is the same strategy London/British Empire used as it tried to hang on to Empire. A flexible response = "hopping" onto a crisis or war without having to have done much to avoid it. Some of the rare historical anomalies are Chamberlain (Munich 1938) or Boris Jonson (Finland/Sweden 2022) because try as one might, one cannot find any other strategic incentive for these missions, other than the noble cause and an effort keep the peace, in the face of previous total failure. Notice that one of the key strategies in "dividing" others is to take opposing positions in political issues, without these positions being based on moral standards or principles. Simply strengthen the position of one side in an issue at one time, then make a 180 degree about turn and support the other side another time. An example here is for the two Moroccan crises (1905 vs. 1911). In 1905, Washington DC actually tacidly supported the German position and insisted on Morrocan independence, protecting it from being carved up by France/Spain. In 1911, the USA chose the side of the colonial powers against Berlin's position, and signed Moroccan independence away to "the wolves" of colonialism. Divide and gain: Historically the funding of opposing European ideologies, leaders and states. For example, US private funding of European dictators in the 1920s and 1930s, *and* at the same time supporting Stalin's Five-Year Plans, was a strategy which carried through to today. *A geographical advantage meant that whatever happened in Europe would be a "win" for Washington DC power mongers.* Or, one could state that if one is far enough away, one can "sit on the fence and await the outcome" when the shtf somewhere else. Strategists can always count on a plethora of enablers who carry out such division, mostly for entirely independent causes: from "humanism" to "big business", one can become a tool of strategists. Politicians, business elites, journalists, historians, teachers...they can all contribute, without even being aware of the fact.
@user-ch4ji5ux4s
@user-ch4ji5ux4s 3 ай бұрын
Russia to get security security for they have nuclear weapons
@johnhehir508
@johnhehir508 2 жыл бұрын
Forgets to mention that Poland in the early 1920s to 1939 was not a democracy and just wanted to appoint dictatorships ,
@Lechoslaw8546
@Lechoslaw8546 Жыл бұрын
WRONG. Poland from early 1919 until May 1926 was a decent parliamentary democracy, with the exception of military sector subjected to Piłsudski, but luckily he deserted army before the decisive battle of Warsaw August 1920, therefore enabling Poland win war against million strong Red Army which invaded Poland. After the battle he was stripped from all posts and forced to retirement. In May 1926 a British financed bloody coup has smashed this democracy and turned the country into a dictatorship headed again by the puppet named Piłsudski. I am responding strictly to your comment, I did not listened to the above interview.
@colinbeck1285
@colinbeck1285 2 жыл бұрын
Hitler & Stalin built rival funeral businesses and staffed them with ambulance chasers. Putin is a former ambulance chaser. Drumming up some business for the boss during a down market was always uppermost in his mind.
@masternmargarita
@masternmargarita 2 жыл бұрын
👎👎
@geoeconomics3067
@geoeconomics3067 2 жыл бұрын
USA started war in Ukraina to separate Ukraina from Russia why ? RUSSIA with Ukraina is global power RUSSIA without Ukraina is regional power - Zbignew Brzezinski
@laurebourgeois7256
@laurebourgeois7256 2 жыл бұрын
When and where did he say that?
@Jubah54
@Jubah54 2 жыл бұрын
@@laurebourgeois7256 in "the grand chessboard"
@sorenkierke5813
@sorenkierke5813 2 жыл бұрын
@@laurebourgeois7256 Michael Ruppert made an entertaining summary of it in less than 15 minutes. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mtRygKVky7uzd6M.html
@sorenkierke5813
@sorenkierke5813 2 жыл бұрын
@Robert Smith Watch this lecture from Michael Ruppert and after you did, maybe you will have changed your mind. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mtRygKVky7uzd6M.html
@Kornhulio18
@Kornhulio18 2 жыл бұрын
@Robert Smith Nope you are wrong, he has written it in his book the grand chessboard.
@tammymaltese21
@tammymaltese21 Жыл бұрын
hilarious US hegemony propogandista
@Windband1
@Windband1 8 ай бұрын
100%.
@bang8534
@bang8534 Жыл бұрын
Slava Russia....
@user-vb4bn9nh7e
@user-vb4bn9nh7e Жыл бұрын
росія - окупант , вбивця , садист і не одне десятиріччя
@paulzx5034
@paulzx5034 Жыл бұрын
​@@user-vb4bn9nh7eДа ладно чё ты...война как война...
@DrGoldsylver
@DrGoldsylver 2 жыл бұрын
Please name a country that is oligarchs free 😂😂 It seems Russia just play the US game, by having a leach on less powerful country with interest (eg: US-Venezuela) Blame the game, not the player
@blip1
@blip1 Жыл бұрын
Nah, I'll go ahead and blame Russia. They have nationalized their intentional spreading of an internal self esteem problem, and are effectively a country being operated by mob bosses.
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