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thats all he talks about

support role, when was the last time it was ever called healer

It is an fps you know. Every hero should be able to shoot things and do damage.

wait until you find out about this character named zenyatta, who has been in the game since day 1

​@@brycenb2994 Why have dps if a support can out damage the damage expert? While being immortal? How delusional are you?

@@d_watchHDSeptember 25, 2022 they changed it to support from healer

My team always asks me to switch, regardless of how I'm doing. They just never trust me, even when I pop off.

@@isaacaustin864same here but 99% of the time im so ass, just doesnt really matter to me. gotta learn somehow

​@@isaacaustin864simple, they don't want a tank, they want a wall to hide behind so they don't get shot and punished for their horrible positioning and decisions making Not playing Reinhardt, Ramattra, Orisa ? You're throwing

@@isaacaustin864 In what rank did they call you out?

@@d_watchHDi despide you as a doom main u be throwing my games when i play dps or support, just switch if ur ass and grind qp if u wanna one trick

Fr like he isn’t hard countering already too

He sounds like he injects DNA into eggs in his free time

ha

Wha?

This is fucked up on so many levels 😂

If they just did the Orisa rework she got in OW2 in OW1 double shield would have been dead, half of the strat relied on her barrier so without it double shield is impossible or at least useless. Rein can't attack while shielding and Winston has a fragile barrier and is useless for poke. Of the 3 new tanks, only Ram has a barrier and it's on a long cooldown with a limited healthpool and timer, forcing him to brawl half the time.

Double shield meta was like 40% tank issue 60% support issue. Bap and Brig made it so that all of the sustain abilities stacking with AOE sustain and healing cycling on top of each other created unbreakable setups. In high elo, playing double shield with an Ana was completely troll because she doesn't have the sustain necessary to enable the unkillable comp. I know this point has been spouted over and over (trust me I'm tired of it too) but it's just the truth. Sincerely, GM player since OW1.

Huh? No, 5x5 is much more organized and less chaos, your cashgrab concept doesn't make any sense, if you want to talk about their greedy you should talk about the battle passes and store prices.

how do you even enjoy the game as damage role player? you have to go through 50 different shields and defense abilities to even hit the backline and games lasting longer than they needs to be cause one tank will be able to stall longer till the next tank arrives, and as support it must suck too when DVA dives on you without caring a single thing about the objective since there is a second tank. imo it must be very boring that time, I enjoy 5v5 so I didn't buy OW after trying it on my friend's account and free weekends back in 6v6 days, the games felt boring to me, may be because I wasn't a dedicated player like the ones playing the game back then but as a new player that is not fun.

@@felipez3115the game is unfinished lol, no pve, they said they’ll focus on pvp and then drop the worst patch in ow2 history, lol!

@@fenixspider5776things died back then, a lot more chaotic but stalling in this game is just as bad even without 2 shields

@@felipez3115 In OW2 we have one tank on each team that has the combined strength of 2 tanks from OW1. Every tank has had their health pools massively increased and abilities buffed. Shooting a raidboss tank as a DPS often doesn't feel like it's doing anything because they've had to keep buffing the survivability over and over. OW2 has less stuns and CC than OW1 but now that one tank gets hit by all of it on top of the rampant counter swapping that they tried to fix for the longest time till Blizzard just gave up andsaid that it was their intent all along. The tank experience is awful because you're being hard focused without any second tank to help cover for you on top of the rampant counter swapping that you can't do anything about because as a solo tank your weaknesses are so easily exploited. The DPS experience is awful because killing the enemy tank is such a massive advantage but when actually shooting the tank doesn't feel like you're having an impact at all. The only role that has seen a benefit is support because they're less reliant on healbotting a tank and have more freedom to make plays. Everyone else suffers. It's a cashgrab. When OW2 released they took away the ability to earn skins through grinding the game and put all the nice skins behind a $25+ paywall. At least the game was different enough to distract people from it and PvE was well on the way. But then PvE was cancelled and now we're only left with 5v5 as the only real differentiating factor between OW1 and OW2. Without it there will be nothing left to distract from the more predatory skin shop of OW2. The game cannot revert back to 6v6 because when they do even the casual players will see what has happened. OW2 released so that they had an excuse to sell skins for an insane premium rather than letting people earn them. 5v5 is objectively the worse format. You can subjectively prefer 5v5 but it causes significant

Hard agree. Extremely frustrating dealing with the dementia patients that form ow's community.

bro, why are u bitchin about tank vulnerability in ow1 when u r not the only tank on the field with that much vulnerability. that goes for the other tanks too, its better than the immortal tanks now, imagine complaining about dying because u misplayed

The Mei slow has been there since ow2's launch and was arguably more oppressive than it is now as it's been heavily nerfed.

@@Naianasha When ow2 released mei didn't have the slowdown on primary fire. It wasn't until like season 7 or 8 they brought it back

@@_Super17_ As far as I know, it seems like she had it and at 50% until it was first reduced to 40% in season 5 and was further nerfed down the line in later seasons. I looked at all the old patch notes of ow2 and didn't see it introduced as late as you mention (s7-8). But yeah, the s5 patch shows it's been around and at 50% for as long as OW2 has launched. Edit: Yeah, I did a bunch of research and the slow on primary came with her mini rework with ow2's launch.

Me has always had the slow on primary fire in OW2, its current value is 30% but for less than a season she got a slight rework that brought in the deep freeze mechanic, which started at a low slowing value but ramped up to like 75% slow, and did an extra burst of damage when you hit the frozen enemy with an icicle or melee. I personally liked deep freeze, and it would probably be balanced if she had only a 20% slow and a little lower dps on primary fire, and no ramping slow effect.

i mean they will if queue times get bad enough for tank but thatll take awhile, they wont willingly do it ig

@@jimmyjab8744if tank queues get worse, then adding another tank will just double the problem

​@@jimmyjab8744? 6v6 makes queues drastically harder to balance, that will never be a reason to favour going back.

@@Nyxtia if they role was more fun and got more content than dps, same for support, they'll be more popular, if we stay in 5v5 we lose more tank players and tank queues go down to instant, and dps and support increase overtime. Trying to balanace a game with an imbalance in power distibution like in 5v5 will mean a role suffers for anothers fun. Which eventually will heavily affect other roles queue times. Queue times aren't easy but are balanacable most definetely in 6v6. Only in some ways to be fair. If tank were mildly more fun in 5v5 then yeah the queue times would be ok ish but in order to make the role fun ehh... very hard to do without other roles suffering.

​@jimmyjab8744 history says otherwise, and any game with multiple roles says otherwise. Tank has never been as popular as the other roles due to the nature of the role, the pressure that comes with it, the visibility that comes with it, being the main focus of the enemy team, etc. Your girlfriend who you persuade to play probably doesn't wanna play tank. The guy who got off a 12hr shift probably doesn't wanna play tank. The 13 yr old on adhd meds probably doesn't wanna play tank. Some people enjoy all those traits of tank play, but they are always in the minority. As such it will will never be even with dps and support popularity - it never has in OW1 even one single time if you ignore the brief period after a new tank launched, and the same is true in mmos and other class based shooters, even with fairly homogenised roles like The Finals - Heavy is least popular by far... 1/2

If you're stuck in gold, its not your team. Just work on cooldown management, aim accuracy, and not feeding.

Practice until you're GM level so you can carry out of gold in 1v5 and get stuck in plat

Kiri had less than half life aswell

Saying cheaters would be less a problem makes zero sense bro there’s 6 instead of 5 which makes the likely hood of running into a cheater greater , I’ve never played with a cheater with over 300hours on the game as it is

​@@axvi9790You used to sickna dive tank on the cheater snd they would just spawn camp them. Effectively removing the cheater. Thats how. You cant really do that in 5v5

@axvi9790 as the old 6v6 flex player, cheaters are easier to punish because 1 extra tank. Not to mention, locking bastion ain't gonna work against dva rein, or widow against dva Winston.

he sucks so much

we both know who

Cyx is light years better than Unsaltedsalt. I'm surprised salt is even still in GM, he's garbage.

@@MyDadDotCom I agree too (just wanted to hear zbra hype up my goat)

Cyx actually knows how to play the game.

@@_V.Va_ no offence to salt but...kinda true lol

He sounds like he has 0 testosterone in his body 🤣

He looks like Doomfist IRL trust me I got the sauce

You press the same button

@_Foozy thank you so much and what will make someone want to cancel the slam?

@@raynelrueda6063mostly for just movement. Zbra does it a lot to get out of sight quick because if you can don’t have your block and getting shot at that’s the next best thing

​@@raynelrueda6063When your slam is active, you get increased gravitational acceleration. So you won't go as higher/far as when you cancel your slam.

people are slow. tanks need to be strong in ow2 its only 1 of them, plus all the abilities the tanks are usually hit with them.

Tank isn't weak, but it's horrible to play tank, but then again I play rein so.

@@thatguy5391 its easy if you know how play them.

easy scapegoat for content creators. I’m glad blizzard is trying wild shot. if it works it works, if it doesn’t, learn from it.

@@jaden5843 agreed! I just hate when content creators act like they dont have any influence on the devs. They are watching yall before us small folks.

Roadhog Doesn't Counter ZBRA kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mriReNWHndWyh6s.html

Doom is the most powerful character? lmao he is the easiest one to counter buddy

Doom has the least tank presence. Did you not watch hog just ignore him and push cart the whole first round?

@@seanpowers1899 yes roadhog is more powerful. I said one of the most. He’s more powerful than every other tank besides roadhog, every healer, and most dps besides maybe mei and them. You can do ALOT on doom. Like two movement abilities, a slow, a one clip primary, aoe, environmental kill potential, damage reduction. Every hero is easy to counter, but no one has as much uptime as doom again maybe besides mei. Everyone that can beat doom in a 1v1 can’t move and everyone that can move can’t beat doom 1 v 1. Doom has the most powers besides mei and rock biter so doom is one of most powerful

@@wilkiebaggins high level dooms are OPPRESSIVE. Just like high level hogs. High level other players are not as oppressive

he just def didn't say tanks couldn't do Anything. i believe zbra of all people knows that isn't true he said the tank EXPERIENCE is awful. your role can be strong/good and still "feel" awful. Also if you wanna talk about strong tanks winston def goes up there.

Have you played overwatch lmao that's like 80% of the gameplay loop

yes, whenever he doesn't have to play overwatch to entertain his fanbase for an income (just to live)