I wouldn't exactly call miquella evil. Definitely not good but more gray than evil.

Miquella isn't doing anything for his own benefit, he genuinely believes what he does will solve all of the previous mistakes. He is wrong of course but not evil.

not evil, but more so; lawful neutral. his actions are evil; but still technicallyy wants to bring "world peace"

It’s the whole I can help the world by ‘freeing’ then of their free will and ambition, or in this case forcing them to feel nothing but bliss and love

Miquella is like Madara from Naruto. he is trying to do everything for the greater good but his actions to do so are what bad.

uh placid didnt go insane he was just wiaiting for his dragon god to come back

@@Fyre19 prolly was the greater will too, he was elden lord, but dragon, seems too weird for me

​@@Fyre19 but his people go insane, all dragon insane, even placidusax insane, he look like renalla when she missing radagon dingdong

@@kaso236 aint it stated clearly that it was a dragon outer god

@@raynaldo9894 i dont even know what that means no dragon went insane cuz of the greater will dieing

it wasnt Radhan specifically. His great rune resisted the rot slowing it down from killing him. or at least thats what the game lore says.

Completely wrong, we kill Radahn to release his eternal suffer from rot madness. Causing him mad was one of Miquella plan, he wasn't choosing it. Then we kill him again to release him from being an eternal slave from Miquella. We're his Savior, twice

Imagine being the strongest demigod in the entire continent then after years of agony one guy 1/10th your size finally kills you. Then you come back to life to fight one last battle and it’s just that fucking guy again

He was never a slave to Miquella. Everyone who thinks that misinterprets the lore, badly. The Japanese version makes it even more clear that this is what he wanted, in case Freyja who knew him personally outright saying so wasn't enough... somehow.

​ @TheStraightestWhitest yet there is no evidence that he ever promised by his own will, also he ,,promised'' him still in childhood so it could have been careless and he just blindly accepted it as his brother, when being older he got his own rune and ambitions so he changed his mind, plus why would he hold the stars if he really wanted to become his promised consort, pretty sure he didnt care about ranni's or rykar's fate, remember he is carian too so stars have big significance for him, at last there is his fight with malenia, before he went mad because of the rot, he was most likely asked by malenia to fulfill his promise and become the promised consort, if he would wanted to become the consort, he would politely say yes and no fight would occur, yet they fought together and she infected him with the scarlet rot so he evenutally dies and it's guaranteed, still his great rune resisted the rot and he lived even in madness so he would not die, even if some lore is misinterpret cuz of inaccurate translation, there are still tons of facts and details that just completely disproves that he wanted to become the consort

I had sex with boggart and I confirm this

Imagine having similar levels of insight regarding the Two Fingers as Ofnir. Must be all that prawn.

@@SharikhKhan138 And boiled crab hahahaha

lots of people hinted at the two fingers being broken

Prawn Chad right again

(Giant) Dad is that you?

It saddens me how many people wont get this reference

😂😂😂😂

@@boskilingenfelter9515 Either him or (Havel) Mom.

Dark souls is set after Elden Ring bud, I was hoping that the castle at the end be called Anor Londo

The onion knights and solaire are also bure bros

The universe makes us all victim and perpetrator of its infinite cruelty... wait wrong game

And Pastor Miriel!

Poor Boc is certainly a victim. He is such a sweetheart but he despises himself because of how he looks, enough to even die in an attempt to appear human, just because The Golden Order preached that beings like him, should feel shame and know that they are cursed and lesser, born outside of grace for having animalistic features.

Roderika and Hewg are pretty chil too

Miquellested

Mohg kidnapped Miquella of his own volition.

It's miquellested, if you're going to copy someone else's comment at least do it right

He beat the allegations, but at what cost?

neither this one helped him

"Sorry little bro, I don't swing that way. Also your my brother."

@@monkeebones5607 Miquella: “Half...Half-brother..”

Shattering the elden ring caused a civil war that killed countless, not a hero.

​@@alfalldoot6715 Marika understood that removing death and other things didn't do well for the world and by that she came to understood that problem was with Two Fingers. Only other person who was able to get similar understanding was Ranni. She used fragment of death rune to kill her body and soul of Godwyn the Golden. And how she got Fragment from the hound of Marika while living peacefully after that? It was help from Marika in some way. And this led to Shattering. So things happened like this. Marika became a God of the world with the help of Greater Will. Later she got to know that Greater will can't even communicate and she was following the whims of two fingers who lost their purpose long ago. She sent a part of her as Radagon and learn things from only Empire of magic which Resisted her rule, Carian. In Talismans it is mentioned that Radagon did learn the magic arts and other things Marika learned. He learned about glintstone sorceries and primeval currents and then went back to Marika. His children with Rennela were given title of Demi Gods when he became Elden Lord. Then Marika decided to start her plan of Shattering. Golden Order was all about Erdtree making every life form eternal in some way by removing death. She just couldn't add death back in and most probably Two Fingers had power over her too. So she decided on shattering the ring and got punished for this. This implied that even at her level she was not some super powerful being who could do anything. Since her powers came from Greater Will and Two fingers had a hand in it they had power over her. Simply stating. She understood that world is a mess but she can't solve it. She was also a ruthless person in many ways so didn't care about her own children so by using Shattering she sent world into chaos and doubt, and by time Tarnished came back two fingers decided to use players to mend the ring. Marika wanted a chance to appear where someone could solve the Elden Ring issue and Tarnished chosen by Two Fingers happened to be best bet.

Nothing suggests that Marika had any motivation other than grief caused by the death of Godwyn tho

@@alfalldoot6715 Who says killing countless doesn't make a hero? That's a shortsighted view of a bigger picture.

@@orxy5316 Doesn't change what I theorized.

there were still innocent people and genocide is never justified. I do understand why though that jar shit is fuucked. I just don’t sympathize with marika she is a vile person

They were never saints!

The hornsent were just like any other group of people. Horrible atrocities against others is just kind of baked into the cake for human beings it seems. I think the dlc actually did a good job at displaying that, it’s all just one big cycle of violence at the end of the day.

Yea, they definitely created an endless cycle of revenge and bloodshed

Then you fail to see Marika's hypocrisy

Godfrey took the heads off not bayle

@@WeWi-dh5ph You're just blatantly wrong, but at least you said it confidently.

@@nautygoesdeep nvm I should’ve never trusted the internet lmao

There's literally heads of placidussax at bayle's body XDDD

@@ane157 Right, hes got two of Placys heads still embedded into his neck, if Bayle didn't chop em off, I don't know what the hell happened 🤣🤣

I mean it sent the elden beast but we killed it lol

messmer and melina were the first two children of marika even before godfrey

I think Messmer and Melina were actually born before Marika got with Godfrey. Miquella and Melania are the youngest since they were born after radagon had kids with Renalla and after Marika had kids with Godfrey.

Marika begins to seperate from the outer will becuase she begins to understand that the two fingers mean nothing, but radagon is like a puppet for the outer will which is why his phase 2 is the elden beast, because he represnts the outer will, not the two fingers. Marika broke the elden ring, radagon reformed it (i think)

@@ceverex5808 yeah pretty much

While I do agree, it does make sense that Radhann was brought back. Godwyn’s soul itself was destroyed during the night of black knives and it would be impossible to recover. Miquella likely saw Radhann to be the next best option and so he attempted to peacefully coerce him into agreeing to become his consort. When that failed, well, the rest is history.

​@@THE__FACELESSThe eclipse

@@THE__FACELESSMiquella already had his eyes on Radahn when they were both in their childhood. I think Radahn is just his ultimate end goal.

Hopefully, that's being saved for the next DLC.

@@alejandroblue4675 what next DLC? They are done with Elden Ring.

It's crazy if you include all the Demi-God children from every marriage, all of them were dodgy in some fashion besides maybe Godwyn and Radahn. Messmer had the snake thing, Melania was rotting, Miquella was eternally youthful, Mohg and Morgott were Omens, Rykard fed himself to a different snake and Ranni, despite acting mostly normal, killed her physical self which could've ended poorly if you refer back to what happened with Godwyn. Absolute weirdos.

Bud

Her butt was a centipede.... NO, nononononononononono NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

She has a stinger surrounded by thorns right under her, where the centipede and scorpion meet.

Hear me out.

@@vergil5164 Nope. I'm drawing a fucking line.

He's literally one of the endings of the base game

@@pancakes8670that’s just his corpse, the resurrection of his soul was a loose end. Also the fia ending suuuucks it barely counts.

@@CreativeUsernameEh Exactly!!!

Yeah honestly thought he was going to be the final boss of the game, considering how close miquella and godwyn were.

Theres a shack with an albunaeic woman on a wolf near the arena where you fight gaius where you can find them as a drop in the overworld

​@@stardust4374they got freaky in that little shack eh?

​@@nguyen-vuluu3150We killed him and we killed his wife. What is wrong with us!?!?

Lol it says in the item description of the pants that they were made as fuck you to gaius cuz he had no legs and couldn’t wear them

Hes basically saying after he kills you that he didn't win either.

Nothing Mid about Midra has the same energy as Joker saying there's nothing Mere about that Mortal about Batman.

Some people, Couple years ago: "woah... Wonder if we will ever fight Radahn in his prime" *Gets to fight (supposedly) prime Radahn in the DLC Also people: "BooOoO, RadAhN AgaIn? It'S sO LaMEe... ThiS BosS sUcKs!" F**k Godwyn, by the way

@@kevinferdian746 literally the only people who wanted to fight radahn again are radahn simps, not to mention that consort radahn is a bad fight to begin with( since his second phase just makes your Framerates tank). Also don’t talk s**t about Godwyn he deserves better.

@@Darkness-us3vt Godwyn is a chump. Bro got slapped by 110lbs unenhanced human females, LMAO!

​@@kevinferdian746Godwyn was setup to return, unlike Radahn

Midra doesn't but Nanaya definitely did. Her torch states as much. If Midra was not fully aware of the flame, then Nanaya was definitely tricking him and trying to turn him into a Lord by making him "Endure," the eternal agony of the hornsent's crucifixion, hoping he'd break eventually and release all that stored up torment into the world.

​@@mrct592 I think she intentionally did this as a form of revenge for the people living in the manse, the slaves and all. Maybe she wanted Midra to finally acquire the full power of Frenzied lord and burn all of the land of shadows as an act of vengeance

@@raiyankhan8560 I could certainly see Nanaya as a shaman that tried to do the same thing as Marika. Take revenge against the hornsent. One became a god to enact holy vengeance and the other tried to nuke the entire afterlife.

It’s interesting how most bosses have multiple names or titles

bruh

That's some big stretch right there.

No? Kidnapping, murder, torture, cult leader…

@@CreativeUsernameEh there is a thing called ‘joking’

​@@CreativeUsernameEhwho did he kidnap besides miquella who miquellested him into doing that

That's just fan speculation btw. There is no evidence beyond Fatalis equipment fixing itself when it gets damaged. And even that is called into question in GenU where it's revealed that they regularly replace the Pokke sword (the only thing assumed to fix itself) because people keep mining from it.

@@kingofflames738 thx for telling me thought it was legit didnt go too deep into lore just the hunt itself

Now you get it! Godwyn was plan A, Radahn is plan B!

@@00vondough00 He has a sister who would be "willing" (I don't know if she's charmed to hell and back or legit loyal) but he has to go after his brothers.

I did see a thread or KZfaq video discussing the possible implications of that, as Nanaya is clutching her stomach in the photo as well, although I couldn’t find any solidified proof, except it is a super interesting implication

All the strays for being strong and kind smh

Marika is the main villain, not Miquella

Miquella is the true villain, but Messmer is the "main" villain,

WE are the villain, Miquella and Messmer are just in the way and since we have no autonomy in the dlc we are basically relegated to the role of a murderhobo