Zenless Zone Zero has a HUGE problem with TEAM BUILDING!

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Trinz_TV

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6 күн бұрын

This is a big problem, you loose out on a fundamental mechanic in every character's kit if not done right. Feels more like a handicap than anything for f2p players.
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@DeathkaiserG
@DeathkaiserG 2 күн бұрын
I mean...Its not like They wont add characters of that attribute This is like the first batch.
@Trinz_TV
@Trinz_TV 2 күн бұрын
Agreed, provided every character of same attributes work well with each other. I felt like it was one other layer you had to consider.
@zigrakudo4092
@zigrakudo4092 2 күн бұрын
yeah, but you can do most of the game with a mismatched team. the team comp bonuses is mostly for people who want to optimize builds or want to see very big dps.
@Malthy
@Malthy 2 күн бұрын
Not all three need to match. You can have two match the element and the third in the same faction as one of the other two. All three characters bonuses are active. That's what I did at the beginning and I wasn't hurting for choices from all the free agents and rolls they gave us.
@graw19
@graw19 2 күн бұрын
This. Adding to the example in the video, I think we get Corin for free, which is the same faction as Ellen, so the bonus isn't a problem in this case
@cyrus6461
@cyrus6461 Күн бұрын
I've been using Lucy, Koleda, and Anton, great team comp
@zacziggarot
@zacziggarot Күн бұрын
​@@graw19 you also get a free Ben and a free blue girl. They even let you go through the story in trial mode with premade characters so team comps don't really matter until later
@LeGAT45
@LeGAT45 3 күн бұрын
Dang I never though about this team comp building aspect being awful for f2p players. Not only do you need good, limited 5 star characters, you also now need the correct faction / attribute AND the characters need to work well together. If I had to guess, the team comps in ZZZ will probably be very limited especially at the start of the game. Also the first limited characters that are released for a new faction or element are really going to suck, since there will be no synergy for them. I wonder how they'll tackle that when we get to that point.
@LeGAT45
@LeGAT45 3 күн бұрын
The devs also gave us scraps for pulls too. They really want us to swipe don't they.
@Trinz_TV
@Trinz_TV 3 күн бұрын
Yea ikr. Maybe if they make it to where all characters of same attribute can work well with each other ? That might make it easier. Then again mono attribute teams are still the way to go at the end of the day.
@Gustavo-xm2wt
@Gustavo-xm2wt 2 күн бұрын
i dont feel like thats the issue the only character is limited in term of team is nekomata there alot of good f2p team out there for the current content (the base Cunning Hares team is good also)
@Gustavo-xm2wt
@Gustavo-xm2wt 2 күн бұрын
if u are actually struggling to make a team then go to gamegazer alot of good team on there
@Scatterblades
@Scatterblades 2 күн бұрын
Just use the 3 starters. it works wonderful thus far.
@Hanmen-mods
@Hanmen-mods 2 күн бұрын
Not a problem. There will be endless amounts of chars. Most of the time you need only 2 chars same elem.
@T3ngu254
@T3ngu254 2 күн бұрын
I don't really feel like it's the team building but more the fact its hard to get thr charachters, I already have 118 pulls on standard and I got in total with the beginner agents 7 in total and I got like 20 w engines
@shinnyshin7792
@shinnyshin7792 22 сағат бұрын
F2Pish player here. I'm glad to spend on a gacha I'm enjoying, but I'm not spending to maybe make a boring game better. I drew Koleda and have bad options--only a low-damage Ben + Koleda + Billy comp if I want to use my 5 star. Base gameplay is boring and relies on well-designed characters to create complexity--so the game is only fun while playing well-designed 5 stars. Koleda is painfully boring, but I loved playing Grace in the quest and would've enjoyed her much more. I quit after hitting level 28 because base gameplay felt designed for a five-year-old, I couldn't really use my 5-star, I didn't have fun even when I did, and I'd have to reroll my account or grind months to fix things. Not redoing the campaign just so the combat can maybe start getting good.
@Corusame
@Corusame 2 күн бұрын
I mean its not like this is a system unlike most other F2P games. Of course you're going to be at a disadvantage with a smaller range of characters. That's the whole incentive to pull. As a F2P player its all about the grind life, nothings for free after all. If you're not spending money you have to spend time
@Trinz_TV
@Trinz_TV 2 күн бұрын
Yeap I agree, I personally feel like it's another item to think about when building teams which some people might not notice. Unless you read through the wall of text lol
@PaulNBlack
@PaulNBlack 2 күн бұрын
This is only a problem now, as more 5* and 4* characters get released, it'll be fine. You don't have to go for a Mono Ice team for Ellen, you can place Corin in the last slot and she can benefit from also being from Victoria Household and take advantage of her increased damage on stationary and stunned enemies.
@Trinz_TV
@Trinz_TV 2 күн бұрын
True, corin can take that spot too and she's free so that's good for f2p.
@zeplse271
@zeplse271 2 күн бұрын
Isn't that just same as element resonance in genshin?
@Trinz_TV
@Trinz_TV 2 күн бұрын
Oh is it ? I didn't play genshin much so i'm not aware of that lol
@twistedfate62
@twistedfate62 2 күн бұрын
technically yeah, but some of the passives make or break the usability of units is the big issue
@zipzzo
@zipzzo Күн бұрын
If resonances were like 20x more powerful sure
@Davaoization
@Davaoization 2 күн бұрын
Thing about the mechanic for matching and these S rank characters is for one thing- for F2P players, in order to play F2P successfully, they know it is a marathon not a sprint. They know that it is going to take time with the roster as well as everything else in the game. They will add more characters of the various attributes and factions. Not only that but the signal search banners will give that 50/50 chance just like the other ones, So chances are not that bad as long as you are just consistently playing the game. I come from playing more predatory and unforgiving gacha's like Summoners War, where there is no pity system. These Hoyoverse gacha's are so much more giving to their playerbase. That being said, its not like S-ranks are going to be the only way to build- hoyo always makes lower rarity characters that end up being SS rank once people figure out synergies.
@Trinz_TV
@Trinz_TV 2 күн бұрын
Good point, especially since the early game is not challenging. It's just a waiting game at this point for f2p.
@cyrus6461
@cyrus6461 Күн бұрын
Lucy is great for example, she can out damage my Koleda and Anton if I play right, her skill giving attack bonuses for example
@EncoreWorshiper
@EncoreWorshiper 2 күн бұрын
yup this game is just trash. Wuwa has better team building, more f2p and has significantly better combat.
@kadatheklund2904
@kadatheklund2904 2 күн бұрын
If wuwa is better i dont event want to touch this one.
@EncoreWorshiper
@EncoreWorshiper 2 күн бұрын
@@kadatheklund2904 good wuwa is leagues better than any shitty gacha game out right now.
@Scatterblades
@Scatterblades 2 күн бұрын
stay on topic please
@x4Kai
@x4Kai 2 күн бұрын
I enjoy this games combat and story way more than wuwa wuwa is way more f2p though
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