ZENLESS ZONE ZERO HUGE TIERLIST UPDATE!!! PRYDWEN

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ZENLESS ZONE ZERO HUGE TIERLIST UPDATE!!! PRYDWEN

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Ай бұрын

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In this video we go over the Zenless Zone Zero updated tierlist by prydwen and talk about what we disagree and agree with on the character placement as well as give our thoughts on Zenless Zone Zero
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@fyrestorm8531 Ай бұрын

5:10 Piper is disgustingly good because anomaly is disgustingly good. It’s really easy to build up status on Piper.

@GambaAJ Ай бұрын

good to know I'm just scared to invest in her RN because I want to see the 1.1 drip market first

@roosed Ай бұрын

Yeah I run Lucy, Piper, S11 as a team and it's fucking sick. Piper spin to win is so good. And I have S11's S tier weapon too so she just does stupid damage. It's a really strong trio.

@GambaAJ Ай бұрын

@@roosed aye ok glad to hear

@projectvayne39 Ай бұрын

@@GambaAJ don't. 1.1 literally instantly power creeps her with Jane doe, a 5 star physical anomaly

@dragonwaz Ай бұрын

@GambaAJ If you run Nekomata, Piper is basically best in slot from what I've heard.

@Simon-xi7lb Ай бұрын

the whole point of a tier list is to accurately rank characters against each other, so having gaps isn't a problem. imagine if an accountant starting moving data points around on a chart and manipulating data because it didn't look 'pretty' or 'clean' enough, lol. pointless. also, soukaku is the absolute strongest support in the game bar none - there's no reason not to have her in t0. she's incredibly easy to get to c6, pairs extremely well with the strongest stun and dps characters in 1.0, and her special attack deals CRIMINAL amounts of stun and anomaly build-up in the blink of an eye... you can't compete with all that.

@GambaAJ Ай бұрын

once again I am not saying she is bad I am saying she is an S-tier unit but Rina is best in slot for grace and one of the best options for Ellen the top comps in the game I think Rina should be higher

@benjamink2398 Ай бұрын

@@GambaAJ No idea what calcs you've been looking at, so I''d love if you could cite them. From everything I've seen, Soukaku is better for Ellen than Rina. And she's a free unit, at M0. At M4 it's not even close.

@dragondevil69 Ай бұрын

just write disorder and you will see "it's all piper, it always was"

@GambaAJ Ай бұрын

HUH I do not understand the joke I may be dumb plz explain?? XD

@dragondevil69 Ай бұрын

@@GambaAJ i mean although you personally didn't see anyone using piper, i've seen spin2win, kururin memes, and disroder meta as any tags you can use oh and the quote is the meme with the 2 astronauts on the moon with a hand gun

@JustFuN-mv2yp Ай бұрын

its assault not disorder completely different

@ChessPieceHalloween Ай бұрын

@@JustFuN-mv2yp Its disorder abuse. people use Assult+1 other anomaly to trigger disorder nukes.

@dragondevil69 Ай бұрын

@@JustFuN-mv2yp you should focus on both

@projectvayne39 Ай бұрын

3:34 right now, Nicole is definitely tier 1, but since currently we don't have a character that makes use of her extra passive, do to her being the only ether, it highly limits how good she is. When zhu yuan comes out, she will definitely be above tier 1

@GambaAJ Ай бұрын

Yeah I think so too ZHU YUAN can't wait any longer

@revo5124 Ай бұрын

prydwen still hasnt noticed nekomata+piper comp aaaaaaah

@GambaAJ Ай бұрын

@@revo5124 that’s why I’m not a fan of the damn void spots rn at all

@shiranuishogunsaga8451 Ай бұрын

Anomaly is getting overlooked bc of freeze team

@revo5124 Ай бұрын

@@shiranuishogunsaga8451 hmm not really. People don't sleep on grace

@GambaAJ Ай бұрын

I think grace OP high key that's why I do not understand Anton in T2 like what was that

@RatchR Ай бұрын

Piper clears are all over, piper with grace, s11, or koleda is common and pushing high tiers of shiyu defense.

@GambaAJ Ай бұрын

Bet Ratch I will check them out

@vincentluong7550 Ай бұрын

Zzz feels so stingy after playing wuwa. The fact that I have to pull 300 pulls on the standard bannar to get Lycaon for my ellen team is insane. Additionally it feels so bad when you get a 5 star weapon off the standard bannar. Like why dont they seperate the 5 star weapons and the characters. In wuwa you can get a five star of your choosing instantly from the standard bannar and a guaranteed standard give star of your choice on the beginner banner after 80 pulls.

@GambaAJ Ай бұрын

The unfortunate reality is gacha=money they want money I do agree with you but that's how they want to do it but its ok I use Ellen without her weapon she still felt good to me :)

@exion2011 Ай бұрын

same here, gonna stuck with Anby or anyone who could replace her until i get Lycaon for 200 more pull....

@muizxmuiz Ай бұрын

I hope the revenue for ZZZ stay in the bottom so they have to change their business style and follow WuWa more.

@odd_silhouette1656 Ай бұрын

piper is great for assault and disorder comps

@GambaAJ Ай бұрын

ayyeee ok may test her out and play around but I want to see drip market first by them in case they do reveal a fire DPS

@Shioni16 Ай бұрын

Honestly feel like outside of bangboos and w engines tier list on characrers are subjective been beating most content with characters im having fun with, which are subsequently lower tier units lol

@GambaAJ Ай бұрын

Very True I try to be as fair as I can but sometimes the people at Prydwen can make some weird choices

@CraftedFTW Ай бұрын

I've just been using anby, billy and nicole till now at level 34 XD they are just a solid team and I got their bangboo too. No wolfman so I decided to skip ellen and get the police lady since I can just swap her out with billy and I already have her best team for now

@GambaAJ Ай бұрын

Yeah good choice I want ZHU as well she was so much fun in the story

@Newerzeal Ай бұрын

Sukaku is pretty broken she is like the bennet of ZZZ a 1000 attack buff to her teammates as well as a debuff is pretty amazing not to mention she can be main DPS at her fourth upgrade

@GambaAJ Ай бұрын

oh for sure I agree 100% as a support unit with Rina giving up to 30% pen and her being best in slot on 2 team comps I just think they should switch

@Newerzeal Ай бұрын

@@GambaAJ I’ll admit I do have a slight bias because I maxed her and she was my second main dps after grace but I wholeheartedly agree on your take on kamena …I mean Anton

@GambaAJ Ай бұрын

@@Newerzeal oh yeah that’s fine I’m just glad to have civil convos with people about this stuff appreciate your take on it as well

@Newerzeal Ай бұрын

@@GambaAJ absolutely brother you got a def like and sub , thx for being good people

@Tommy-rl1to Ай бұрын

The King never misses a day glad you well rested and it’s up to you for doing ZZZ

@GambaAJ Ай бұрын

TY bro I feel good today as well

@triptriad1101 Ай бұрын

It makes sense to leave a blank slot, it shows the power gap between these units. Koleda competes with Lycoan, and doesn’t hold a candle to what that unit spits out not just with stun, dude has ice res down, stun damage amp, etc. so ye makes sense

@GambaAJ Ай бұрын

I kind of agree but at the same time I just do not like voids especially because of the fact that even her moving up on the list it would still show Lycon as the best and the tier he is in is OP tier once a better unit comes out they can move kol down

@charmander615 Ай бұрын

'I don't see anyone using this chick (Piper)'. Me using S11, Piper, Lucy since launch... 😏

@GambaAJ Ай бұрын

Ayyyeee how do you like her???

@charmander615 Ай бұрын

@@GambaAJ Really good for stacking anomaly build up and proccing assault and disorder with burn from S11. She's also great for Nekomata. I agree with you on the Neko and S11 moving up to 0.5 for Pure DPS until more chars come in, neither is better than the other, just different so I'm using both. You need 2 teams anyway and I don't have Ellen, saving for Zhu Yuan.

@ayramyoui Ай бұрын

@@GambaAJthe assault + disorder gave a lot of damage, at least on my anby, grace, piper team and it's really easy to proc disorder in this team. Piper is really-really good

@MorrisKytos Ай бұрын

Haven't managed to get her from GACHA yet. But I did get somewhat lucky with having Rina as my 1st 5* draw.

@ayramyoui Ай бұрын

Koleda imho doesnt belong in the tier 0.5, she slow and her combo is easily breakable when enemies do their attack so yea it's okay to have no tier 0.5 stunner coz no one at this point is good enough for that tier

@pandalin4111 Ай бұрын

i dont really care much for tier lists, the only 2 dps char i built is corin and billy ( not like i have much option tbh) but bumping up chars just cause there is a "void" above them is simply a dumb take if u ask me its like getting a job u are unqualified for cause no1 else applied which can happen irl sure but i see no reason to push around units in a game tier list for that like u put solder 11 above neko since there is an empty spot than we get a dps who is better than both neko and solider but worse than ellen, what u do now ? keep solider there or push it down to neko's lvl or bump down solider and neko by 1 grade both ? if their difference is not significant enough to justify a separate tier there is no reason to put em apart just cause there is an empty space now i look like a hater but i just rly got triggered by that void argument, good vid otherwise keep up the good work and sleep enough.

@GambaAJ Ай бұрын

No so basically when they get better units that are of the same class you bump them down there waiting for full team comps to move them up I did not like that and it does not have to be s11 they could put neeko there

@pandalin4111 Ай бұрын

@@GambaAJ soilder was just an example it dosent rly matter which of u bump up or down certain brackets should represent an expectations towards characters in my opinion if every char dosent met and/or over exceeds that bracket it should be empty also i dont think teams should matter in individual rating, id rather have a team comp tier list separately than u can have a char low in an individual tierlist but high in a team one cause he /she is need to make the party function corin for an example is prety low here but in my comp i only switch to her during chain attack and use her E when i have enough energy and she does prety good dmg, she def worse char than neko as an individual phys dps, but ima not sure that would be that high of a difference if we consider that i only use for that short burst of time and otherwise i have doggo on field 90% of the time

@ltningchariot555 Ай бұрын

I already pulled for ellen and her w engine. but im definitely pulling for zhu yan as well. her burst playstyle reminds me of my c6 ganyu. the characters are already looking so good... wuwa wasn't a huge hit with me. but this game... has rlly scratched an itch in my brain. my new fave gacha for sure.

@GambaAJ Ай бұрын

Same man I really want ZHU so bad

@JoeyDubsJR Ай бұрын

Anton is meh im sorry, he feels clunky to play too because i hate characters that have to stand still to attack locked in an animation. Most Grace players probably don't play him like me even. Also Koleda is way better than ppl say but she needs lots of energy regen aka a disc with main stat energy with lots of impact too.

@GambaAJ Ай бұрын

Thats why I think she needs to move up but anton should not be in the same spot as ben

@nitogame Ай бұрын

I got Soukaku at C6 (actually probably C15) and what I'm always surprised is her damage. She can really dish out good damage.

@GambaAJ Ай бұрын

100% she is a great unit

@projectvayne39 Ай бұрын

1:33 Ben is honestly really really bad. He legit is only functional when paired with kolaeda (and even then he is only tier 1 level good when paired with kolaeda)

@GambaAJ Ай бұрын

@@projectvayne39 ahh then he probably should be a tier 3 character or they need to move Anton up

@projectvayne39 Ай бұрын

@@GambaAJ Anton isn't bad, but isn't great either. I think they are also taking into account flexibility for team comps. And sadly he only has one. So tier 2 is pretty accurate for him, he is not on the same level as nekomata (who right now is accurately tier 1 sadly, mainly do to a lack of a real team comp that brings out the best in her). as for soldier 11, I would say she should be tier 0.5

@bradleydarling6084 Ай бұрын

Solider 11 should be t 0.5 especially because she doesn't have too many allies in the future she should be better with more obols squad members

@GambaAJ Ай бұрын

I agree I think the void spots do not make sense at all they can move characters down when better options come out but until then it's like why

@PersonaPrime Ай бұрын

They will bump her up in the future if she gets better teammates. Prydwen is rating based on the current Shiyu D and roster.

@joaomarcoscosta4647 Ай бұрын

But... That's the thing. We are not in the future. And this tier list seems to put a great emphasis on which team comps are good right now, rather then just individual units potential. (Otherwise, I don't think all ice units would be above everyone else.) s11 is great, but I don't think s11 comps are really a full tier above Neko or Piper comps for now. Maybe her tier will change once we start getting more fire characters. (It doesn't look like like we are getting more Obol Squad members any time soon, though.)

@GambaAJ Ай бұрын

that's why I want to see drip market who the 1.1 characters are going to be

@GambaAJ Ай бұрын

JoA only reason I removed it is because you know I do not want to get in trouble by them but with that being said TY FOE THE UPDATE

@SclaviaToxichica Ай бұрын

We are happy to see more ZZZ videos

@GambaAJ Ай бұрын

I love that emote or how you did the smile

@SclaviaToxichica Ай бұрын

@@GambaAJ its YT emote, and i love it too bcs it really shows my emotions about videos very often. Loving them and being happySo perfect for your content, one more time, thanks for your work, especially about zzz.

@GambaAJ Ай бұрын

Damn man I saw this a day later this means a lot TY

@TheRealCrimdor Ай бұрын

Would be helpful if you had a zoom out of the tier list

@GambaAJ Ай бұрын

MY B wanted to try something different and move up the ladder style will stick to the OG format next time

@TheRealCrimdor Ай бұрын

@@GambaAJ - the ladder style was fine but to conclude the video with a zoomed out perspective with your closing statements would be much better in my opinion

@GambaAJ Ай бұрын

@@TheRealCrimdor ok next time I will do that TY for your feedback

@richardchu3916 Ай бұрын

maybe you should do an updated take on this game's combat, IF you have done Shiyu Defense and Hollow Zero, also depends on how far you have gone into them. Because your initial review 9 days ago (as of date of my comment), you said the combat is "super easy and grandma can do via facerolling" but I think we all know that's not the case any more.

@GambaAJ Ай бұрын

Hey Richard I do not remember your comment I apologize and 2nd is that a video people want to see cause Idk is that a video people really want to see?

@isidroduarte8942 Ай бұрын

Been rocking my S11, Ellen and Nicole team. Saving up for Zhu Yuan.

@GambaAJ Ай бұрын

Same I want her so bad I like her playstyle more than Ellen Tbh

@PureFuckingMetal6632 Ай бұрын

Can tell he mains Rina

@GambaAJ Ай бұрын

SHE IS EZ AND GOATED

@oreo0sama Ай бұрын

Piper atm is pretty broken🤣🤣. Only saw mr pokke use her, but she did pretty well in the shiyu defense.

@GambaAJ Ай бұрын

Ok cool I was like I have not seen her yet will have to go check out his vod

@PersonaPrime Ай бұрын

It's because she isn't hard to use and physical Anomaly is great.

@GambaAJ Ай бұрын

OK bet I may dabble and use her but I want to see who they drip market first for 1.1 before I make that choice

@PersonaPrime Ай бұрын

@@GambaAJ I think you can skip on raising Piper if you are planning on going for Jane Doe in 1.1

@addie275 Ай бұрын

@@PersonaPrimebro I have m5 piper for this team grace piper anby, should I wait for jane doe?

@addie275 Ай бұрын

m6 anton or m6 piper for grace anby team?

@GambaAJ Ай бұрын

I can't speak on piper have not used her yet but I do like anton

@TheRealBanned Ай бұрын

The background music in this video got me moving. 😂❤

@GambaAJ Ай бұрын

it got me moving as well in the final cut XD

@TheRealBanned Ай бұрын

@@GambaAJI finally finished watching the video. From my experience I'd say soukaku should stay at the tier is at mainly due to the value she gives to Ellen and Lycaon but that would be dependent on her cinema level. Additionally, I think when I get Ellen I'll be running a composition with Ellen, Lycaon and Rina for experimental reason because I have the butler. But I'll also use soukaku and see which one is easier for me to use. However, I do agree with Rina going up there with Lycaon because I use a team with both of them and I've been shredding.

@GambaAJ Ай бұрын

Yeah it's just my point is when you're a best in slot support on one team and you can be right there on another why waste the resources when you have her and she may be best in slot on others going forward because 30%pen is busted

@TheRealBanned Ай бұрын

@@GambaAJ agreed, also I re-watched the video and Anton really needs to go up to tier 1 because I tried him out just now because I really wanted to respect your opinion and atleast see if I agree and I do. I really don't expect Prydwen to have the same view as everyone because it's based on perspective and opinions at the end of the day. They probably use their own metrics to place each character in each tier but I appreciate your video and your opinions because it's good to see that every has different thoughts on things, it's actually refreshing. Also keep making ZZZ videos, I feel like you can cater to an additional audience along with Wuwa and any other game you play.

@GambaAJ Ай бұрын

@@TheRealBanned TY glad you tried him out and appreciate the feedback and support

@oreo0sama Ай бұрын

Would love to see more zzz content 🙌.

@GambaAJ Ай бұрын

I gotcha appreciate the feedback

@yumikokowachi7200 Ай бұрын

azur promilia have released date?

@GambaAJ Ай бұрын

Not yet rumor is though it is later this year

@Drunkendrakon Ай бұрын

Who is we?

@GambaAJ Ай бұрын

I may have been really tired and said we on accident if I did I apologize

@Drunkendrakon Ай бұрын

@@GambaAJ Nahs sall good just watched the video and I agree with you 👍

@GambaAJ Ай бұрын

@@Drunkendrakon ok bet thanks man appreciate it

@Kahrbon Ай бұрын

based driftveil city background music😎

@GambaAJ Ай бұрын

appreciate it thought I would change it up from the persona music

@xSoulEater23 Ай бұрын

Koleda should def be a little higher on the list.

@GambaAJ Ай бұрын

Facts them putting her there did not make sense at all

@PersonaPrime Ай бұрын

I don't see it. She isn't that much better than Anby. In fact, I've used them both and they've performed the same. I think Tier 1 is very fair. In order to get to 0.5 or higher, you must do something no one else can do right now and be a lot better than the free unit, which is Anby and Koleda is just not THAT much sttronger.

@GambaAJ Ай бұрын

I think even her just being slightly better she should be there and not a void at all they can move characters down when new ones come out but I also understand your viewpoint

@PersonaPrime Ай бұрын

@@GambaAJ Prydwen always ranks this way, even with their other games like in HSR for example, if 1 character is slightly better than the other, they won't just bump them up because they want the power difference to be significant enough to warrant the rank up. They also consider the team comps each character fits in and I think Anby has more favorable team comps overall.