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Stratojet: Meet Your Boeing B-47 - Restored Color - 1954

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This film is a 1950s time capsule from the Cold War. I remember hiding under my desk during "duck and cover" Civil Defense drills when I was a kid in elementary school. See the design, development and manufacturing of the Boeing B-47 Stratojet, the US Air Force's first operational long range jet bomber. Then you'll follow a crew from SAC's McConnell Air Force Base (3250th Combat Crew Training Wing) on a training mission that simulates a night attack using a practice target in the US. There are some great shots of the Stratojet on the ground and in the air, including night air refueling. You'll also hear crew dialog as they work through various procedures during the bomb run.
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@user-qs3od9td4k
@user-qs3od9td4k Жыл бұрын
Started my 70 years as a aircraft mechanic on the B-47 in 1953 at March AFB as crew chief with 441st Bomb squadron
@johnroberts7018
@johnroberts7018 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful plane. you can sure see where the B-52 came from here. Looks so much like it's little brother.
@ronaldhagler1567
@ronaldhagler1567 10 жыл бұрын
I flew the B-47 in the early 60's. Although I have flown over 1600 hours in it, I did not enjoy it. It was very heavy on the controls and I felt I had to "manhandle" it. It was under powered. If the throttles were at idle, it took 9 seconds before you could be at 100% power; therefore, it had an approach chute you would deploy to increase drag. This allowed you to keep your throttle settings at about 90% while you were in the landing pattern. In it's day, it was a "hot" airplane.
@Barnekkid
@Barnekkid 10 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. What other planes did you fly during that era?
@MrMrtt313
@MrMrtt313 9 жыл бұрын
+Ronald Hagler Did you ever reflex to Upper Heyford or Brize?
@GarySanOly
@GarySanOly 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your service; I'll bet you've been to McConnell in Wichita. I grew up there and watched the B-47s all of the time, including one that blew up in midair after taking off in early 1956. We heard the B-47s at the Boeing plant along with B-52s 24-7; during the production periods. We got so used to the continuous rumble and whine of the jets; that the only time we noticed was holidays and the quiet, no high power turns. I was at Offutt working in the SAC Command Post when they deactivated the last B-47 Bomb Wings. The 55th SRW transitioned from RB-47s to RC-135s, moved from Forbes up to Offutt. I later flew stretch DC-8s and the B-727/100. The 63 series JT3D-7 had 19,000 pounds thrust vs the 6,000 of the J-47. I believe the AF for a bit was considering a re-engined variant of the B-47 with turbofans in the early sixties but with the B-52 and longer ranges decided to get rid of the B-47 altogether. Today the 777s' GE engines get 100K pounds of thrust and are at least 70% quieter doing it. The 787 is even quieter and more efficient. The B-47 served its purpose of creating a global nuclear capability and scared the crap out of China and the Soviets. The B-47 and you crewmembers in actuality played a major role in preventing a nuclear World War III.
@MrMrtt313
@MrMrtt313 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks Gary, SAC was an experience I will never forget. I look at my 16 inch balsa model and rememember many hours with that bird. thank you for being part of Lemays's Team.
@robertvalderaz7329
@robertvalderaz7329 7 жыл бұрын
Ronald Hagler Though a kid I remember the B-47. my Dad use to take me on the flight line to watch them take off, and several times I got to get in the cockpit. He had rank, lol. this was Sac Altus A.F.B, Ok. 1958 thru 63. I was with the 7th bombwing in the 70's as a buff crew chief. loved those birds.
@lesterbradfeld300
@lesterbradfeld300 5 жыл бұрын
I was a ground crew member on the RB-47H which was a B-47 changed over to a reconnaissance Plane. 28 of them were stationed at Forbes Air Force base in Topeka, Kansas. I served from 1962 to 1966. I was one of the few that were left at the base when it was closed down. Most of the planes went to the bone yard, but a few went to different museums. In 2005 I took my grandson to the Air Force museum at the Wright-Patterson Air Force Base in Dayton, Ohio. To my surprise the plane I worked on was on display there. These 28 planes did see service. This was the beginning of the Vietnam War and my plane would fly one mission a week. It would fly to England, refuel in air then go to Vietnam and take radar photos of the terrain then on the way back to England would fly just as close to the Soviet Union as it could then refuel in air again and return to Topeka. When it took the radar photos these were not actual photos, but a radar photo of the land. So if a bunch of trees had moved from one place to another, they were not trees but missiles. When flying near the Soviet Union they did not take radar photos but they tried to find out how good their defense was. To do this checking of the Soviets defense system, there were another 3 to 4 more crew members. I felt sorry for them since they were in a pod inserted in the bomb bay area. There was a hatch that they climbed into from the bottom of the plane. After they were in and just before taxing to take off we would close that opening up. If the flight crew had to eject there was no way for these men to escape except for a 40 foot long tunnel from the bomb bay to the cockpit. Their chances of survival were not good. My plane never got hit with fire but others did. Then it would fly back to England, refuel in air then fly back to Topeka. That was 36 hours straight in the air for the crew. The crew consisted of Pilot, Co-pilot who also was the gunner and the Navigator who sat in front on a lower level of the other two. If they had to eject, the pilot and co-pilot were ejected up. However the Navigator was ejected down and had to be ejected fast enough to clear the rest of the plane. One day as I was cleaning the cock pit the navigator forgot to put the safety pin in the trigger that bottomed the seat just before the he pulled the trigger to eject. Well I accidentally pulled that trigger and I went down about 5 inches very fast. Let me tell you I got out of that cock pit and on the ground faster as I ever did before. Generally it would take us 4 days to get it ready to fly again. I really enjoyed my time in the Air Force working on these great planes. I use to think I did not do much in the service but as I got older I realized that my job and these planes did a great service towards the war. Additional note about the Co-Pilot as the gunman. His seat would turn around and there he could shoot and control the two 20MM cannons on the tail of the aircraft. You have to remember that back then these planes could fly higher and faster than any other fighter. So they did not need very much self defense built into them.
@donfoster3153
@donfoster3153 Жыл бұрын
Not much wright in this article. Hatch closed prior to engine start. Raven,s made takeoff and landing in cockpit. In my 11years in the wing I never heard of any missions over 12 hours. The RBI’s-47,s had been gone about 8years before the base closed.the fighters had cought up to the b47 in the 1950,s. The bomber,s started working on low level also we had 281 shot down in 1960.
@GarySanOly
@GarySanOly 8 жыл бұрын
I remember the B-47 well; I grew up in Wichita, KS. From the fifties into the sixties the roar of jet engines rumbled over the city, high power tests nearly 24-7. We got used to the jet noise the only time we noticed it was on holidays when the jets weren't turning; we noted the quietness that prevailed. Boeing transitioned the plant to B-52 production in the mid fifties and for a period of time both B-47s and B-52s were built in Wichita. The majority of the B-47s and B-52s were built in Wichita. I witnessed one B-47 blow up after takeoff watching it climb out from McConnell AFB, it was heading north. I was watching from our bathroom window while getting ready for school. That was in 1956. My parents owned a vacant 1 acre lot at 37th and Oliver North; part of that aircraft came to rest there. My parents never built a house on that lot as they had originally planned. Nine years later I watched a KC-135 go down in 1965. That 135 was TDY from Vance AFB, OK. assisting Boeing with refueling system modifications on the B-52. It was turning to the left returning back toward the base and was heading southeast when it appeared to stall in around a 45 degree bank rolled further left and pitched down. I later flew DC-8s and B-727s so I have pretty good concept of what I saw. There were no survivors in either of these crashes 17 people died on the ground when the 135 crashed. The B-47 was one of the prettiest jets built and its design was derived partially from the ME262 and the design lead to the B-52, KC-135, Model 367-80 aka 707 and all future Boeing successful aircraft designs that followed.
@texleeger8973
@texleeger8973 5 жыл бұрын
@soaringtractor Expert use of !!!!!!!!!. Typical.
@johnmilner5485
@johnmilner5485 Жыл бұрын
Supposedly the 135 that crashed sucked up a drag chute from a F-105 on take off that another aircraft blew into the runway. I remember reading the crash report while looking for info on a 105 incident .
@dehoedisc7247
@dehoedisc7247 6 жыл бұрын
My dad flew this aircraft for about ten years, and he had flown the B-17, B-29, and B-50 before that. He was eventually made an instructor pilot in the B-47 and was involved in the "analog" Flight Simulator of the early 60's, and even as Flying Safety Officer at McConnell Air Force Base, Wichita, Kansas. He loved the B-47 as much as many Italians love the Ferrari automobiles.
@bulletbegone355
@bulletbegone355 5 жыл бұрын
I started my career in the aircraft business on the B-47 in the mid fifties. I was in a crew that removed and replaced the fuel cells and later on worked as an E&E and electrical checkout mechanic along with several other classifications. One amusing story that I remember very well was the time an Air Force inspector wrote a squawk that stated there was evidence of a rat chewing on a wire assy. and the person responsible for answering the squawk wrote in the corrective action section that he installed one cat. The squawk was a permanent part of the ship's log and probably still is. The truth was that the insulation on the wiring had sugar in its makeup and rats did indeed chew on them. Don't ask me how the rats got aboard, but they surely did because the backbone where most of the wire harnesses were routed was full of rat poop.
@coiledsteel8344
@coiledsteel8344 4 жыл бұрын
Bullet Begone - Im a Pest Control Tech and curious what happened? Some car wiring is made with soy and mice chew on it.
@benwilson7807
@benwilson7807 7 жыл бұрын
I was a Bomb Nav technician based at Lockbourne AFB in the early 1950's. We had the North American RB-45 until 1952/53 and then received the RB-47E. What an Airplane, fast and reliable . Great experience.
@spencnaz
@spencnaz 10 жыл бұрын
That is one precise paper delivery from 35,000 feet! I remember Yeager's comments about the jet, saying that it was so aerodynamically clean that it was hard to get it stopped!
@greatgandalf5233
@greatgandalf5233 4 жыл бұрын
I was a A6E TRAM Naval Flight Officer, I really enjoyed this video. It brought back a lot of memories. Thanks
@fetengineer9151
@fetengineer9151 6 жыл бұрын
My father was Russian Voice Intercept/enlisted flyer in the USAFSS from 1953 to 1983 and at one point after his time flying on the RB-36 his TDY/SAC unit was reassigned to RB-47Hs. Believe it or not he was 1 of 3 additional crew members tucked away in the belly of that bird as Electronic Warfare Raven... he said after the RB-47 came his less glamorous EC-121 assignment. Wow! I love my Daddy!!!
@justforever96
@justforever96 3 жыл бұрын
Why 'believe it or not'? Thats a matter of common record. They sealed off the bomb bay and outfitted it with consoles and seats for extra crew. Plenty of room, really. Although it caused problems when communications were broken by enemy fire, and the ECM or the flight crew bailed out without the other group's knowledge! The turning the bay into accommodations isnt really a new idea either. I think its been done since WWI, pretty much. Howd you like to be one of the two passengers carried in a DH Mosquito bomb bay, without windows or lights or anything, no communication with outside world, no idea whats going on outside. They even built crew quarters into the rear fuselage of the A-1 Skyraider and sent them out to so ELINT and ASW missions.
@fetengineer9151
@fetengineer9151 3 жыл бұрын
@@justforever96My father is 84 today and is doing well but, I remember him saying he told a few non USAFSS types about his aircrew position in that airframe and they didn't believe him. Nonetheless my father is 6'4" so his height wasn't the best for ECM duty but he managed. He also would get very frustrated when people confused his later assignment in the EC-47Q out of NKP with his RB-47 time. In mid 1983 when he retired he ended his AF career with 20,000 hours collectively of USAFSS flight time in several reconnaissance aircraft.
@GeraldCauseyOldlighting
@GeraldCauseyOldlighting 9 жыл бұрын
This is awesome to watch and remember back then when we where actually kicking the bears ass . Our B-47-E 's where the bomber of the times, It could do just about do every thing a Pilot ask of her ...1 I slept on a tarmac's a lot of nights. and eat a lot of Dry Baloney sandwiches. and at 77 years older miss it. but thankful to have played my part .
@surearrow
@surearrow 8 жыл бұрын
+Gerald Causey
@MrMrtt313
@MrMrtt313 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you Gerald.. Sounds like you also were a ramp rat. You walked the walk. I am still in contact with five of us who served in the UK. all 72. Great days!
@rickautry2759
@rickautry2759 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you, sir.
@GeraldCauseyOldlighting
@GeraldCauseyOldlighting 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks to all comments !
@Hal09i
@Hal09i 7 жыл бұрын
I always heard that that the assessment most associated with the B-47 by its crews was that it was "often admired, respected, cursed or even feared, but almost never loved..." Did you find this to be true? awesome airplane for its day in any case.
@alanbooker
@alanbooker 6 жыл бұрын
Definitely one of the most beautiful aircraft ever built.
@TheSirjohn2012
@TheSirjohn2012 10 жыл бұрын
Great film and the story of it,and yes this was our first jet bomber built in the year of 1947. When the 1960's began this bomber ended up in the scrap yard in kingman AZ. Walter Boyne was very upset that the military decided to scrap it,and it was quite unsettling to him because he flew them back in his pilot training days. Jimmy Stewart also flew this bomber all the way out in JAPAN and landed there. Hopefully this jet will fly at our airshows all over the USA and bring thrills to many military men and women everywhere.
@GarySanOly
@GarySanOly 8 жыл бұрын
The B-47 wasn't the first US jet bomber the North American B-45 Tornado was the first US pure jet bomber. It flew about 9 months prior to the B-47 and became operational first. I would say the B-47 was the first successful jet bomber even with all of its shortcomings.
@Sacto1654
@Sacto1654 9 жыл бұрын
The B-47 Stratojet is arguably among the greatest "landmark" airplanes of all time, because many of the aerodynamic innovations introduced with the B-47 became the precursor to today's jet airliners--especially the thin, sweptback wings and the podded mounting.of the jet engines. What was learned from the B-47 was applied to the Boeing 707, a true landmark of airliner technology.
@NJOsprey
@NJOsprey 9 жыл бұрын
+Sacto1654 Actually the 707 grew out of an Air Force specification for a jet powered refueler. The converted B-29s and C-97s used before this were getting old and were too slow for safe jet refueling. The 367-80 "Dash 80" was the prototype for the KC-135 Stratotanker and the 707 airliner.
@Sacto1654
@Sacto1654 9 жыл бұрын
+Michael Tomaszewicz Actually, the Boeing 707 was a huge gamble for Boeing because at the time the design of the plane started, there was relatively little interest in jet airliners. Boeing essentially sold the 707 design to the USAF for a jet tanker requirement, if I remember correctly. Anyway, the aerodynamics of the 707 was derived from what was learned on the B-47--especially the thin, sweptback wings and podded engine installation. Indeed, the podded engine installation reduced vibration in the fuselage and allowed for future growth with more powerful engines--by 1961, the 707 was available with JT4A turbojet, JT3D turbofan or Rolls-Royce Conway turbofan engines.
@j.heilig7239
@j.heilig7239 9 жыл бұрын
+Michael Tomaszewicz The KC-97 was still very much "new" and in full production when the KC-135 came out. The last of 888 C-97s rolled out of the factory the same day as the first KC-135.
@prairiewanderer5040
@prairiewanderer5040 8 жыл бұрын
+J. Heilig I heard a story once from an old USAF maintenance guy telling the story of a KC-97 that developed an internal fuel leak shortly after take-off. She was far above max. landing weight due to the full load of fuel. They needed to dump fuel to reduce weight prior to landing and the crew was rightly concerned about an electrical spark lighting up the plane, so they shut off all electrical power. That rendered the flight instruments inoperable so the clever pilot poured coffee in a shallow box and used the coffee as a pitch and bank indicator to maintain proper flight attitude.
@rickautry2759
@rickautry2759 8 жыл бұрын
It sounds apocryphal, but far stranger things were thrown at those guys and they still brought their ships home. One days bizarre becomes tomorrow's flight training...
@richardc7721
@richardc7721 5 жыл бұрын
It's amazing how fast new planes became obsolete during the period from 1947 to 64. Except for a few, B52 and the SR71 to name 2. They are still not obsolete.
@coiledsteel8344
@coiledsteel8344 4 жыл бұрын
Richard C - You can see a good collection including SR-71 at Castle Air Museum.
@kurtburgess1519
@kurtburgess1519 10 жыл бұрын
Love the majestic anti-flash white under belly period. The plane seems naked without it. Hard to believe the B-47 first flew about one year after the B-36.
@usafvet100
@usafvet100 4 жыл бұрын
Our G and H model BUFFS had the white underneath and 3 tone camo on top. Grand Forks AFB ND 1981-83
@yamahabradley
@yamahabradley 10 жыл бұрын
When the B-47 was first put in service, few fighters could intercept it or was as fast especially over a medium distance. It was away ahead of its time and laid the ground work for the 707 the first jet airliner.
@johnsekuta4973
@johnsekuta4973 7 жыл бұрын
Robert Bradley
@charlesguy8503
@charlesguy8503 6 жыл бұрын
Robert Bradley h
@MrSuzuki1187
@MrSuzuki1187 3 жыл бұрын
The belly of the fuselage was painted white to reflect the flash of a nuclear detonation.
@cindys1819
@cindys1819 6 жыл бұрын
The B-47 was a necessary step towards completion of what the B-36 started and the B-52 ended; the prevention of WW 3 after 1946 up to the collapse of the Soviet Union. Without great aircraft and the professionalism and dedication of thousands of airman and support personnel, the likely hood of an atomic conflict would have been at least far higher....
@roberte8656
@roberte8656 10 жыл бұрын
These are amazing films that are beautifully restored!! Thanks for sharing!
@stevemizar4143
@stevemizar4143 3 жыл бұрын
I went to school at chanute AFB back in the early '60's to work on this bird as an aircraft electrician, also trained on the KC97 as an aircraft electrician. Good old days. Stayed with aviation for 30yrs.
@steviep9270
@steviep9270 10 жыл бұрын
I watched these all the time at Greenham Common in the UK when I was growing up, used to hang on the fence and wave at the pilots when they were taxiing back to the ramp.
@alphadogg100
@alphadogg100 9 жыл бұрын
I was one of those guys taxiing by...remember those days well !
@ZenosWarbirds
@ZenosWarbirds 7 жыл бұрын
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@nebraskatpp
@nebraskatpp 10 жыл бұрын
Talk about a beautiful bomber. Probably the most beautiful of all.
@Thunder_6278
@Thunder_6278 Ай бұрын
I think the B-58 is even sleeker!
@rsgleason
@rsgleason 7 жыл бұрын
I remember going thru a B-47. With the navigator station being in the the nose, as I sat in the navigator station it occured to me that this must have been how the astronauts felt being inside the first mercury space capsules.
@Thunder_6278
@Thunder_6278 8 ай бұрын
It would be cool if they can get 1 B-47 operational again. It would become a flying museum. Yes, it would take lots of money and volunteer effort to get her up in the skies again. It would be a BIG air show draw.
@jasonm949
@jasonm949 6 жыл бұрын
"We haven't touched on speed much." Every other word has been about speed.
@williamkele2902
@williamkele2902 8 жыл бұрын
BillK was crew chief on one in Lake Charles La. great aircraft ... In flight refueling was something to see , loved that airplane..
@carlosojeda1956
@carlosojeda1956 3 жыл бұрын
Full agreement, I believe it is the most beautiful bomber ever constructed.
@naardri
@naardri 9 жыл бұрын
Last comment on this video. 1948 and SAC was a shambles then came LeMay and SAC became the SAC that is remembered. LeMay was such a great military leader who made the greatest error a military man can make, including "Ike" and that is he got involves in the U.S. political arena.
@MrMrtt313
@MrMrtt313 8 жыл бұрын
+Na Ardri The US was already in the world arena of politics. We were thrust into this by WW2. Europe was weak and shattered. The communist wanted to take all of Europe they could hold. Gen. LeMay could only give advice but thank SAC for holding them until the USSR fell.
@georg57garvy65
@georg57garvy65 8 жыл бұрын
I disagree if we had listened to general Lemay we would have won the Vietnam war.
@richardc7721
@richardc7721 5 жыл бұрын
, unfortunately, we had a bean counter running Nam. McNamara should have stayed at Ford. He tried to run the war by the numbers, stats, and you can't do that.
@keithad6485
@keithad6485 18 күн бұрын
Seems amazing to me that over 2,000 B47s were produced but were obsolete within a few years.
@rickautry2759
@rickautry2759 9 жыл бұрын
I love that bit with the cigarette butts. You cant come any clearer than that. 9:00 - Training Wheels!
@AMVETSWA
@AMVETSWA 7 жыл бұрын
Rick: I got mad at the part with the cigarette butts: We had to do a FOD walk almost every day to clean up that crap on the run ways.
@fchanMSI
@fchanMSI 4 жыл бұрын
Nearly everyone in armed forces smoked. My dad & uncle that fought in WWII didn’t smoke until they drafted.
@oisiaa
@oisiaa 8 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! You don't see mechanical training aids like those anymore. Now it's all computer based training and diagrams. When I went through KC-135 school in the early 2000s they still had the old mechanical training aids, but they didn't get used, only the computer lessons on a slide screen.
@DoctorShocktor
@DoctorShocktor 4 жыл бұрын
Let’s hope they don’t have mechanical ones any more, the digital ones are vastly more accurate, reliable and updateable.
@coiledsteel8344
@coiledsteel8344 4 жыл бұрын
DoctorShocktor - What happens in a SHTF scenario,IF a EMP knocks out power?
@KB4QAA
@KB4QAA 4 жыл бұрын
@@coiledsteel8344 They won't be sitting in a classroom lecture!
@guyjonson6364
@guyjonson6364 6 жыл бұрын
1947 amazing!!! Tech used in B52s and the airliners starting with 707s
@bobclary2121
@bobclary2121 5 жыл бұрын
I was stationed at Kadena, Okinawa about 1965 when a General flew a B-47 into Kadena, I think he was out of Guam/Anderson, but it was his plane and he was checking out the SAC Unit at Kadena/KC-135 Tankers. He then took off for Clark, but never arrived. I don't think they ever found them. Nice looking plane though, first one I ever saw, and the General had it pretty shined up.
@davidca96
@davidca96 4 жыл бұрын
The B-47 looked fantastic
@Stray03
@Stray03 10 жыл бұрын
Visited the crash site of one of these on Mt. Wright in Newyork state, once you get to the top you can see parts of one of the engines, one of the wing mounted landing gear, and some aluminum probably from the wing. Wish I had more time to walk around between the two mountains to find the rest of it.
@kurtburgess1519
@kurtburgess1519 10 жыл бұрын
And thanks big time for the "Strategic Air Command" movie theme at the end! "With jets winding free and men flying true." "Round the world isn't too far, when the Air Force takes command." Sign me up!
@fireengineer
@fireengineer 10 жыл бұрын
This as beautiful film. Well done.
@lewisnash4669
@lewisnash4669 5 жыл бұрын
Rumor was that Hap Arnold didn't like the fact that on this bomber, the pilot and co-pilot couldn't make eye contact but were seated in tandem. Communication issue?
@millerdp
@millerdp 5 жыл бұрын
Probably so. I believe LeMay had Boeing change the original tandem seating of the B-52 for the same reason. Crew coordination...resource management.
@ohwell2790
@ohwell2790 6 жыл бұрын
To Ronald Hagler, I crewed a B-47 and went to tech school on them. You do not mention the engines J-47's had to be at 70 percent before the throttles could be advanced. I was there on the ground touching the engines to feel for vibration and looking up the tail pipe to tell you the pilot that engine was rotating then when the engine lit off telling you the pilot that you had ignition. I crewed them and never heard or heard of a pilot that did not like that airplane. They were the cutting edge at that time and there was nothing better anywhere in the world. So, I take you at your word. So, I have a tough time with what you are saying. That was and is a beautiful plane. I enjoyed keeping that plane flying even for pilots like you.
@jeffersonturnage2061
@jeffersonturnage2061 2 жыл бұрын
THE MOST BEAUTIFUL BOMBER EVER.
@WildBillCox13
@WildBillCox13 5 жыл бұрын
From the wiki: The B-47's reliability and serviceability were regarded as good. The only major problem was poor avionics reliability, which was normal given the existing vacuum tube technology, and the need to place some equipment outside the pressurized crew compartment. Much work was done to improve avionics reliability, but they remained problematic throughout the B-47's operational life.
@coiledsteel8344
@coiledsteel8344 5 жыл бұрын
Those critics who weren't even born during the B-47 era, say it wasn't maneuverable - I saw one in a real documentary- (Power flip up, and over -completely upside down, and turn 180 degrees, after dropping a live nuke (during nuke testing in 50s), and then speed away before the nuke exploded over its target! Would be good to find that video! 🤔😉
@thomasborgsmidt304
@thomasborgsmidt304 9 жыл бұрын
"Handles like a fighter...." OMG A freight train would be more accurate.
@goatanything
@goatanything 9 жыл бұрын
Definitely SAC Bomber pron!!! I love how Captain HardTail smoked a whole pack of Luckys sweating out the noobs first solo mission, I hope he picked up the butts and field stripped them---FOD is bad. :D
@usafvet100
@usafvet100 4 жыл бұрын
We lucky ducks in the Fire Dept got to do FOD patrol every once in a while, the side of the station with crash truck bays opened directly on the SAC ramp. Occassionally a KC 135 would do a rapid refuel on the SAC ramp, for some reason they had to firewall the throttle on at least one of the J57s to make it happen. The "hot crew" crash truck (driven by yours truly) had to set up off the nose as a safety precaution. There was something about the banshee shriek of the J57s that could drill right through the ear protectors and assault your eardrums!😝
@jjohn7884
@jjohn7884 9 жыл бұрын
My father was a mechanic on this aircraft from 1956 - 1960
@guyjonson6364
@guyjonson6364 6 жыл бұрын
Wow cool! Really
@kturner3798
@kturner3798 10 жыл бұрын
Some say the B-47 was a hazard to fly. It may have been challenging but that was probably from its high-performance, multi-jet technology being so new. I wish we had these and the men behind them to deal with our threats today.
@kpadmirer
@kpadmirer 9 жыл бұрын
Pilots required special training to be able to land it w/o tearing off the wings.
@douglasshreve9851
@douglasshreve9851 6 жыл бұрын
Well, the folks that said that the 47 was a hazard to fly probably never stepped in one. It was heavy handed, it was a bitch to fly, no flyby wire. It’s landing envelope was a bit tricky and the first batch of them were under powered boat that was rectified later in the program development. Some say it was a “pretty“ airplane, it certainly wasn’t ugly. It was a machine of war and its role was important and Boeing was able to push them out the door and fill the gap prior to the 52 coming online. It utilized sweptback wings and a very large vertical stabilizer, which was transitioned to the 52 and was very important for many reasons most of all so you didn’t crash, LOL. It is obvious (to me) that some of the design features came from the ME 262. Even more obvious (to me) was that it looks awfully close to the 362 Dash 80, (nomenclature speak for a Boeing 707). If you took off the bubble canopy and stretched a few parts you can see the 707! One of the biggest problems was its lack of blow by or bleed air from the engines, the axial designs of the day did not incorporate that so getting from 0 to 100% or military power took about nine seconds. I guess you could say they were a bit week in the thrust department, all of them combined only put out about 36,000 pounds of usable thrust. That’s why you see a lot of photographs of a 47 taking off with a whole bunch of smoke coming out the ass end, those were exhaust from JATO Bottles, they were racks that would hold 33 of those in each bottle was capable of 1000 pounds of thrust so technically you could add 33,000 pounds of thrust to your take off roll, it was a wild ride that’s for sure. Other than that, I was pretty cool.
@medievalmusiclover
@medievalmusiclover 6 жыл бұрын
Very nice! Thank You so much enjoyed a lot.
@zachtong5985
@zachtong5985 6 жыл бұрын
Amazing that the wings were strong enough to support the outer single jet engines. I can't think of any other aircraft with engines that far out. WB-47s were still in use as late as 1968-69 as I saw one at Lajes in the Azores as well as KC-97s presumably refueling fighters crossing the Atlantic (Air Guard).
@FWFrank
@FWFrank 4 жыл бұрын
An awesome collection
@ferdgreenblatt6011
@ferdgreenblatt6011 5 жыл бұрын
When I was an AF corpsman in England in the early 60s, I worked in the ICU of a USAF hospital. I had a burn patient [hands and forearms] Who'd been the AC cmdr in a B47 crash. The navigator had been killed.The navigator had been in a peculiar space down below the cockpit. Apparently a lot of B47 navigators died.
@marckyle5895
@marckyle5895 Жыл бұрын
6:19 B-24 pilots and crew: "What are we?? Chopped liver??"
@jimhays2772
@jimhays2772 Жыл бұрын
Other than the questionable picture of Hitler above the engineering team in the beginning I love watching these films as an aviation buff and the B-47 was a groundbreaker.
@stevemccroskey1211
@stevemccroskey1211 9 жыл бұрын
Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit smoking...
@ramairgto72
@ramairgto72 9 жыл бұрын
lol ikr
@theymusthatetesla3186
@theymusthatetesla3186 5 жыл бұрын
....Brilliant!!
@texleeger8973
@texleeger8973 5 жыл бұрын
Glue is highly recommended.
@dad5650
@dad5650 5 жыл бұрын
And drinking!
@WilliamHenderson57
@WilliamHenderson57 10 жыл бұрын
Great show
@djeanc6309
@djeanc6309 10 жыл бұрын
That's Cool !.. They have something going on down here with fight jets . I'm not sure but some speical showing or air show...
@WilliamHenderson57
@WilliamHenderson57 10 жыл бұрын
Thats cool. How are you doing?
@naardri
@naardri 9 жыл бұрын
5:25 The people who had the most problems were the people with the thousands of hours. Jets were not reciprocating engines and the folk with the high time on them had major problems converting.
@mcdonnell220
@mcdonnell220 9 жыл бұрын
Excellent, thanks Zeno.
@rinsedpie
@rinsedpie 4 жыл бұрын
Zenos you are a star
@MrShobar
@MrShobar 10 жыл бұрын
The B-47 was the first airplane capable of maintaining a wind correction crab angle all the way down to the runway.
@DoctorShocktor
@DoctorShocktor 4 жыл бұрын
Nope, not even close. The Ercoupe of 1937 (ten years earlier) has a trailing link main gear that allows a landing at crabbed angles, straightening out the aircraft after touchdown. Ercoupes were used at Boeing to train 707 pilots to land with larger crab angles rather than slip, so they wouldn’t scrape the low hanging engine nacelles. Of course 707 pilots didn’t hold the crab right to touchdown in the jet, but kicked rudder to straighten out at the last moment.
@kathywachsmuth7261
@kathywachsmuth7261 4 жыл бұрын
Not correct. We had no crosswind crab capability in the "47" however we did in the B-52. Flew them both, 1500 Hours in the 47 and 2500 in the 52.
@johnmilner5485
@johnmilner5485 Жыл бұрын
@@kathywachsmuth7261 Haven't met too many B 47 pilots named Kathy.
@goslonomo
@goslonomo 5 жыл бұрын
44 years from the Wrights' first flight to this. And 44 years ago, we had F-15s and -16s. Our newest fighter, the F-35, is a rough performance equivalent to the F-16... Progress has slowed to about zilch.
@SupesMe
@SupesMe 8 жыл бұрын
OMG the thing with the paper Boy was Hilarious!
@timothyfoleyjr2796
@timothyfoleyjr2796 9 жыл бұрын
My Father flew second station on B-47s. I got a big kick when the narrator said " ...the observer had a computer for a brain". All I can say is "...he sure did".
@kentnebergall3156
@kentnebergall3156 5 жыл бұрын
My dad was a production test pilot in the observer position. They were doing calculus equations on kneeboards and getting a little bit of input from analog computers (think an electric slide rule with knobs and a dial to show the results). The B-52 had six people to do the work that three did on the B-47. Also, all the B-47 test pilot crews were triple rated - everyone could do every job because they needed to switch off occasionally on long missions. Later fighters and bombers had more advanced computers, and earlier ones flew slower to target and had larger crews. Therefore, the B-47 was pretty much the apex of human skill in aviation, with the exception of the fighters of the day.
@justforever96
@justforever96 3 жыл бұрын
When you think about it, when they say 'handles more like a fighter than a bomber', they are probably thinking of the B-29 and B-36, not the B-57.
@pierredecine1936
@pierredecine1936 4 жыл бұрын
23:37 Globemaster wide open, B47 10 knots above stall speed - - amazing none fell on us ...
@dougwickstrom9870
@dougwickstrom9870 2 жыл бұрын
That's not a Douglas C-124 Globemastert II, it's a Boeing KC-97 Stratofreighter.
@justforever96
@justforever96 3 жыл бұрын
A particulr corner of a building? Yeah, sure. There is a certain point in accuracy you cannot improve with unguided bombs and lots of altitude. And this was around the time they decided that since nukes were so powerful, there was no need to do better than get it in the right city.
@globes179
@globes179 8 жыл бұрын
I like when the instructor was chain smoking on the tarmac.
@pepecohetes492
@pepecohetes492 8 жыл бұрын
+Eric Wade - "doctor recommended" =)
@AMVETSWA
@AMVETSWA 7 жыл бұрын
Eric: He obviously never had to do a FOD walk on the tarmac. Jet engines love to suck that stuff up and then destroy themselves.
@ohwell2790
@ohwell2790 6 жыл бұрын
Sorry! It is not Tarmac! That is the flight line and or the ramp, the term tarmac went the way of the Ford tri- motor. The flight line is conncret and so is the ramp where the airplanes are parked. This is the new age dude get up to speed.
@coiledsteel8344
@coiledsteel8344 4 жыл бұрын
DCH Lakewood - They are called TROLLS, and a BANE of the internet.
@marcusrussell8660
@marcusrussell8660 7 жыл бұрын
It is a shame it was scrapped prior to the turbo-jets. I think that is the correct term where you have a large initial fan and it blows free fast air down the inside of the engine covers. Why was the AF in such a rush to get rid of it. Granted the B-52 was better, but the 47 had a great thing going for it--- it was paid for.
@AvengerII
@AvengerII 6 жыл бұрын
March of progress... The B-47 was too short-ranged to be considered a true strategic bomber and was obsolete within a decade. The B-47 probably would have been grounded sooner if it were not air-refuelable and a jet. Look what happened with the B-36! It was out of service by 1960 because it was even more obsolete and just would not make it with post-1960 air defenses in Warsaw Pact developing as quickly as they did. (Frankly, I feel that the supercarriers should have been funded first and the B-36 cancelled in favor of the B-47 and its follow-on developments but history happened differently! Ce la vie! Maybe it was for the best -- even the Navy had to go through teething troubles with jets and carriers and find out bigger and angled decks was a better way to approach the problem of operating jets off carriers at sea.) The B-52 was what the USAF/SAC really wanted but you still have to take technical baby-steps to get to where you want to go. The B-47 had to come first and the bugs worked out before they scaled that concept up into the B-52. It is amazing how much bigger the B-52 is than the B-47!!!! The B-52 also succeeded because of the additional years of jet engine development. It made a huge difference that the prototype B-52 flew 5 years after the first XB-47. The manufacturing of jet engines became more consistent and reliability improved steadily. It's been a similar development with stealth planes but that took longer because of the emphasis on high speed. They found supersonic speed was actually counter-intuitive to long range (afterburners, flying at high speed even in supercruise burns far more fuel than flying below Mach 0.9) and planes actually show up better on sensors at high speeds because of the heat issues related to friction -- molecules of air heating up the airframe particularly above Mach 2 and beyond) and the high heat of afterburner exhaust which CANNOT be hidden from IR sensors. The SR-71, stealthy or NOT, could be tracked and its speed and altitude measured because they could not hide the heat that plane generated!!! The B-2 is subsonic and shaped as it is because they found out a supersonic plane like the SR-71/XB-70 (most extreme examples) or the B-1A (closer to a sane design) was the wrong way to approach a strategic bomber, especially a stealthier plane.
@douglasshreve9851
@douglasshreve9851 6 жыл бұрын
Marcus Russell Bleeder air would’ve made a huge difference. In order to understand why the Air Force got rid of the 47 so quickly you have to understand history. It had nothing to do with technology, It had everything to do with strategic arms limitation treaty‘s. Both the B 36 which last flu in August ‘59 And the bee 47 were victims of these treaties.
@mandolinic
@mandolinic 6 жыл бұрын
Marcus Russell I think you might mean turbo-fans. These are a combination of a jet engine and a ducted fan, with most of the intake air bypassing the jet and being blown out of the back. You can normally tell a turbo-fan just by looking because it has a very wide front intake, like the engines on a 747. It's very efficient at subsonic speeds and hence it's used in most passenger jets. The old British Harrier vertical take off fighter also used a turbo-fan; you can see a massive air intake behind the cockpit. This limited its speed to subsonic, but its ability to VIFF make it highly maneuverable.
@geraldvanboxtel7634
@geraldvanboxtel7634 7 жыл бұрын
Did you know that 203 B-47s crashed during their short history?In just one year 1957/1958 there were 49 crashes. I was the crew chief on 53-1905 at Pease AFB NEW HAMPSHIRE FROM 1955 to 1959. The year after I left ,my plane crashed in New York killing everyone. M/Sgt Gerald Van Boxtel
@tomthx5804
@tomthx5804 7 жыл бұрын
On another b-47 video someone said that one of every four made crashed. They said that if you got distracted for a second, the thing would stall, and rather than normally recover, the wings would get torn off, leading to a lot of crashes.
@AMVETSWA
@AMVETSWA 7 жыл бұрын
Gerald: I was in Bomb/Nav in Plattsburgh NY from 62 to 67. I only saw one plane crash due to the nose gear collapsing on landing. Everyone got out okay, but the navigator was a little pissed.
@GeraldCauseyOldlighting
@GeraldCauseyOldlighting 7 жыл бұрын
I can imagine!!!
@robertdellavilla1351
@robertdellavilla1351 6 жыл бұрын
Gerald Van Boxtel I was stationed at please afb as well 1958 thru 1962 .I witnessed 53 4244 crash on take off. lost a good friend Steve merva
@douglasshreve9851
@douglasshreve9851 6 жыл бұрын
Gerald Van Boxtel glad you weren’t there that day. There were several factors involved as you well know. They were a bit tricky right before they touch down, the envelope was strict. I attribute a lot of these to not enough practice hours in the air and training issues. A lot of the boys that blue these things came from piston engine propeller aircraft and two things trip them up, compressor stall and airplane stall. If you were a bit low and speed you could just push the throttle forward like you can now, those engines did not like that.
@thetreblerebel
@thetreblerebel 3 жыл бұрын
This thing didn't just drop the bomb, it had to go into a climb, then release the bomb into a sling, then roll it over into the opposite direction. If you've ever seen a B47, it's huge, like rolling a 707 like a fighter jet..
@jerryrichards8172
@jerryrichards8172 2 жыл бұрын
What a beautiful aircraft. Dose anyone know if there's 1 still flying?
@thetreblerebel
@thetreblerebel 3 жыл бұрын
Stratojet.... Stratocaster... THE JET AGE!!
@rleblanc1950
@rleblanc1950 7 жыл бұрын
Abel Danger/Field McConnell claims this was the first unmanned plane, drone.
@haroldhumerickhouse7904
@haroldhumerickhouse7904 10 жыл бұрын
Excellent
@pgroove163
@pgroove163 7 жыл бұрын
so much damn Pride back in the day....
@javiergilvidal1558
@javiergilvidal1558 3 жыл бұрын
Now you have Gay Pride.....
@ZedNinetySix_
@ZedNinetySix_ 4 жыл бұрын
1300 of the produced... and where are they now!?!?
@thetreblerebel
@thetreblerebel 4 жыл бұрын
How accurate was the old "Kay System" bombing device?
@andyvan5692
@andyvan5692 3 жыл бұрын
nice plane, and video, but how expensive was that newspaper run?? - all night flight, + the tanker, for the morning news!!- that paper boy would be pissed off, just got done by a B47 !!!, and with 2 seconds to spare!!!
@oiltrdr3537
@oiltrdr3537 7 жыл бұрын
A go-around must have been a handful.
@edpolk1262
@edpolk1262 5 жыл бұрын
oiltrdr You mean, "reach-around" LOL
@Turbodog1
@Turbodog1 7 жыл бұрын
Saw one of these in Altus Oklahoma
@coriscotupi
@coriscotupi 6 жыл бұрын
02:34 - 707/KC-135 production line.
@pgroove163
@pgroove163 3 жыл бұрын
Pride....
@Infidel7153
@Infidel7153 6 жыл бұрын
Only an Air Force officer would throw cigarette butts on the ground !
@pcz5233
@pcz5233 5 жыл бұрын
Interstate 95 In Georgia somewhere there is B47 parked on the side of the highway In front off a National Guard HG...
@davidevans6450
@davidevans6450 5 жыл бұрын
Paul Trekker62 That B47 is actually parked at the Mighty 8th Museum next to Interestate 95 near Pooler, Ga. I encourage anyone to visit this museum.
@neogenmatrix6162
@neogenmatrix6162 8 жыл бұрын
If i could time travel back to 1947 with blueprints for a modern turbofan engine.
@rickautry2759
@rickautry2759 8 жыл бұрын
You would screw up the perceived 'balance of power' and provoke preemptive strikes on American production plants. Guess what's next? In about 20 minutes, NOTHING comes next. I'm only joking, but the amount of energy that it would take to mess with time has to be balanced somehow. I think thermonuclear war would just about balance the equation.
@tomthx5804
@tomthx5804 7 жыл бұрын
I already did that. It's not that much fun. Kelly Johnson just looks at you kind of funny and says "Get out of here, knucklehead"
@caribman10
@caribman10 5 жыл бұрын
Who flew the original test flights? Tex Johnson?
@mountainryder3056
@mountainryder3056 5 жыл бұрын
The captions are as amusing as is the simplistic mono chromic narrator. Good looking a/c.....
@MrShobar
@MrShobar 10 жыл бұрын
Time was registered using cigarette butts in the pre-Surgeon General era.
@petero.7487
@petero.7487 9 жыл бұрын
From what I remember the CEP's of the radar bombing system were terrible, something like 1,500 to 3,000 feet. The optical sight I don't know
@MrMrtt313
@MrMrtt313 8 жыл бұрын
+Peter O. 30,000 to 37,000. Optical was last resort.
@petero.7487
@petero.7487 8 жыл бұрын
MrMrtt313 CEP was 30,000 feet?
@kpadmirer
@kpadmirer 9 жыл бұрын
Six engines and it still needs RATO to take off.
@usafvet100
@usafvet100 9 жыл бұрын
The 6 J47s were relatively inefficient first generation jet engines with poor static thrust, they needed forward motion to help the compressors force air into the combustion chambers. The F86 used the same engine and was underpowered as a result. By contrast, the F15 uses 2 F100s, I would watch our 2 Eagles stand on their tails and do a vertical climb as soon as they cleared the runway and got their landing gear up when doing an intercept. (This was in Galena, AK in the bad old days of the Cold War.)
@timothyfoleyjr2796
@timothyfoleyjr2796 9 жыл бұрын
At that time the H-Bomb and even the A-Bomb were heavy beasts. The B-52 had not become operational. The B-36 was still the front line of our Heavy Bombers. If you take a look at their cavernous bomb-bays, it will give you some idea of how huge the weapons were.
@naardri
@naardri 9 жыл бұрын
kpadmirer Surprising comment for someone who has viewed this video. Aviation all about engines. The airframe is "nothing" if the engines are not a good fit. A suggestion to you and other folk of like comment ilk is read about aviation. Videos do not reveal development. The number of airframes that failed because of poor engine match far exceeds the successful production number.
@thomasborgsmidt304
@thomasborgsmidt304 9 жыл бұрын
Na Ardri The strangest thing is that what really made the B-52(G and H) was the civilian designed engine the JT-3D. What other nations would have considered the ultimate secret of their strategic bomber - the engine - was actually the most common engine! It has been the textbook example on engines and had the widest distribution of people knowing its quirks. It is sort of the Rolls Royce Merlin of the middle cold war. What Boeing did really right was reasonably serendipious: Put the engines under the wing as counterweights to a flexible wing. (Didn't work that well with the B-47 as the aliarons twisted counterproductively) This meant, that the aircraft can be reengined without redesigning the wing and fuselage. Just look at that restriction on the Comet airliner and the consequently the Nimrod. The Phantom had for political reasons to be fitted with Spey (??) engines - didn't pan out right. What really keeps the Russians defeated in the air is the F-100 engine: There are so many of them around and it got to be reliable and not only powerfull.
@atomicorang
@atomicorang 3 жыл бұрын
Why do the men from that generation have the same speech and voice patterns? Just curious.
@barrymarks959
@barrymarks959 7 жыл бұрын
100 th. A & E Sq.--"Comm/Nav"----509th Bomb Wing ---Pease AFB, Portsmouth, NH----64-65
@AMVETSWA
@AMVETSWA 7 жыл бұрын
Barry: I was right down the road from you in Plattsburgh NY during that same time. I cross trained out of "Bomb/Nav" for PMEL in 67. The B47 is still the most beautiful bird I have seen to date.
@spiner111333
@spiner111333 5 жыл бұрын
The instructor needs a nicotine patch.
@dougayers5441
@dougayers5441 8 жыл бұрын
god bless america
@456swagger
@456swagger 9 жыл бұрын
Why show the K-25 building at the beginning?
@456swagger
@456swagger 9 жыл бұрын
charles miller Every? decent? hum. I didn't know that.
@andydunnock8114
@andydunnock8114 9 жыл бұрын
456swagger Good luck in the bronze age, twat.
@SupesMe
@SupesMe 8 жыл бұрын
We had Bomber Bases in Africa?
@GarySanOly
@GarySanOly 8 жыл бұрын
Yes; in Morocco, Tunisia, Libya and Algeria. The B-47s were based there I had an AF buddy who was assigned in Libya before returning to Offutt, AFB.
@user-si4nt2gv7y
@user-si4nt2gv7y Жыл бұрын
C'est pas possible qu'un tel avion puisse exister , tant il est beau et rapide , je devrais pas dire avion mais flèche d'argent , et dire qu'il a inspirer les Boeing que nous cotoyons du 707 au 787. Pas de doutes , il est à classer dans la categories des avions de legende , ceux qui ont marqués l'histoire et surtout l'histoire de l'aviation . Merci à Boeing , mais aussi à l'USAF et au SAC, ainsi qu'à ceux qui ont réalisé ce reportage !
@macsdaddy3383
@macsdaddy3383 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting. They had what we now today as a Joystick, but didn't even have a word for it back then.
@justforever96
@justforever96 3 жыл бұрын
They had the word, it just hadn't evolved into its modern meaning yet. Did you ever wonder why it is a 'joy stick'? That was pilot slang for the control stick in a plane, as far back as WWI. The term stuck around in unofficial use, and eventually got stuck onto early control handle devices for lack of a better term. The original video game consoles were not sold with 'joystick controllers', it was the users who started to call them that, and it has only been accepted as an actual word in the last 30 years or so. If you said to someone that you made your living with a joystick, they would assume you meant you were a pilot...or they would stare at you like you were nuts.
@RonJohn63
@RonJohn63 9 жыл бұрын
"Observers", not "bombardiers"...
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