Ah, zvz. Where seeing a 20min video makes you wonder "This might just cover all bo5 games" :D

I remember years ago, I once saw a ZvZ go into the late game and Devourers showed up. It felt like Christmas.

I really like seeing zvz from time to time. Wouldn’t want to watch it ALL the time , but it’s cool now and then

4:20 I am mentally screaming FINISH THE HATCH! !!!!!!!!!!

I watch this Channel literally every day. You keep this great content coming, I keep watching for 50 years until I drop dead. Hahaha. Thanks!

Hey man thanks so much for the content. Playing broodwar custom games was one of my formative videogame moments as a kid and i had no idea there was still such an awesome competitive scene. Love the coverage!

ZvZ is a curse for Zerg players being chose the best race in the game

I am just glad the finals weren't zvz. That would have been a sad end to a great tournament.

Starcraft truly is fine wine

Hahaha! This was fun. I was looking forward to have an entire series for this 2 on this upload and was right.

Good stuff. Excited for the finals. Congrats to all the players that participated. Really great competition. Thanks Artosis.

I'm simple 1980s dude. I see a new arthosis video I press click.

@artosis Finally man finally got answer to my prayers and we have whole match in one video

man, but the mirror matches always look like the craziest of games

Building a hatchery feels like a very risky move. I wonder if putting a macro hatch on the high ground could have been a way to address early ling pressure, while taking some long term advantage.

hope this one is more eventful than the asl finals this year haha

that was the quickest series ever. so glad it was for 3rd place. i think that was somehow less eventful than the asl finals lol

I think it was Tasteless who said ZvZ is like one of those gang knife fights, where they chain their wrists together. Indeed.

"It's gonna be a ZvZ! Should be a... ZvZ!" pretty much summed it up

lol this is why I say that in the ASL, the grand finals should be like a Bo11 if it's ZvZ.

Starcraft Brood War will forever be the first E-Sport. Thats so cool WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

Tastosis: ThE mAtcHup IS EvOLVIng!! *Watches Mutaling back to back *

This match up is so random. I know skill comes into it to some extent, but mostly it seems like “I randomly pick a build and hope it counters whatever my opponent picked”

Artosis, is 4 pool not a thing in zvz?

Dammit zvz… not scan yet

That was crazy fast

Hopefully I can figure out how to enjoy zvz soon. I like the other mirrors plenty

The random blue Assimilator on the thumbnail made me chuckle.

Random thought, how different would zvz be if hydras did concussive damage instead of explosive?

The build didn't work for Miso at all. So what does he do? Continues doing the same thing. 🙄

Good ol zergling rush

Holy crap zvz is so fast and brutal

17:50 I'm thinking it's time to make a zergling wall, next thing ya know miso has run out into yoon's speedlings, sheesh

Is this ASL finals or what

It’s crazy how different ZvZ is. You sometimes forget until you show us 4 games in a single cast lol

I'd love to see a zerg builds that force into a later game. Wishful thinking but man, current state zvz is piss compared to the other matchups.

oh my gosh.. ZvZ is really no joke, FAST! I saw the time 20 minute video, i thought it was perhaps 2 games? LITTLE DID I KNOW, we will know who the 3rd and 4th place by the end of 20 minutes.

Great games for a mirror match.

hey, might be a stupid question, but why do BW pros switch colors every game?

Faster build won everytime, even the like 10-15 second ling speed advantage won

Just wishing those amazing mid-late games from last year's ASL would be more normal, would make this matchup more interesting at least.

Exactly!!! Why didn't he finish the hatch! LOL

Artosis i am E rank Terran please do a new player guide on how to be good like you 😭

The matchup is not broken but the maps are. I'd wish that mapmakers start making zvz-specific maps to make the matchup more interesting. Just take the gas away from the natural expansion and we might see hydras more often.

Was there a single hatch first win in ZvZ this tournament? It seems like it loses to literally every other build that was played, so I don't quite understand why the players keep trying it.

zvz is why I picked terran.

"should be a zerg versus zerg" Dxracer

Zerglings

Zvz is peak

Potential Spoiler: Thanks for the casts and games Artosis!

R-Toe-Sis

:)

ZvZ just broken. Sad games.

ZvZ rules, I don't know what people are on about, you need rushes and early game just like you need macro and late game

I feel like Miso could win if he built Sunken Colony in 4th game. Zerglings can't kill a sunken colony.

zzzzz great tourney to these two gents tho

zvz so cheese

I want it on record that the entire best of 5 is done in one video, repeat one video. Z is such a degenerate faction.

Now I'm sure of it, I don't like ZvZ

19 min = 4 ZvZ or 1 macro game

Blocking them spoilers like Artosis blocks supply when missing a depot

SPOILER BLOCK. First Comment! uwu

0:23 The word is "versus," not "verse."

Watching these, I think I understand a little more why people generally don't watch as much ZvZ... I love it when it gets to mutalisk micro, but watching only lings beat each other up feels kinda lame.

gosh, i think ZvZ are the most boring rushes to Mutas

I suppose I get what I asked for, lol... I keep looking for ways to extend powercurve of zerglings, forgot that works in ZvZ too, where it reigns as King of the Underground Knife Fighting Ring for 3-4 minutes every game. Feels weird that we call it an S-tier unit and not look for ways to sustain usefulness throughout all phases of the game. Even Mutas after harass period are able to smoothly transition into drop defense and sniping high gas targets (stormers or plagued vessels). Using Carapace upgrades to maintain or extend advantage for ultras, is already a widely accepted strategy. why wouldn't we want +3 carapace for cracklings that just laugh at cannon defenses even without dark swarm.

Haha z v z is fucked.

ZvZ is so bad. It's at least over fast.

Man I wish Miso had beat Motive. Scan would have an easy finals and there's no zvz 🤷‍♂️

ZvZ...zzzzzzzz

ZvZs players should just flip a coin for a win. Cant watch this crap for more than 2 minutes.

ZvZ is a sick joke.

This match up is so random. I know skill comes into it to some extent, but mostly it seems like “I randomly pick a build and hope it counters whatever my opponent picked”

This match up is so random. I know skill comes into it to some extent, but mostly it seems like “I randomly pick a build and hope it counters whatever my opponent picked”

This match up is so random. I know skill comes into it to some extent, but mostly it seems like “I randomly pick a build and hope it counters whatever my opponent picked”

This match up is so random. I know skill comes into it to some extent, but mostly it seems like “I randomly pick a build and hope it counters whatever my opponent picked”