Zero Delay USB Arcade Encoder | Review & Playtest

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Zero Delay USB Arcade Encoder | Review & Playtest

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The "XCSource Zero Delay" USB Joystick Encoder, also known as the Bosega CY-822A, the "USB Joystick" and a whole host of other names is the cheapest arcade control encoder going. Lets take a closer look at it.
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@wlbear2570 6 жыл бұрын

I bought several of these boards for various arcade bartops. Never failed

@SimmeringPotpourri 6 жыл бұрын

The fact that you saved the old parts for the joystick to put it back to it's original state makes you aces in my book.

@RMCRetro 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks, we can't be destroying Comp Pro's!!

@bland9876 6 жыл бұрын

I wanna hack an icade to USB and I would just sell the board on ebay so if somone was repairing one and wanted to use the original board (idk y) then there you go

@tdp2612 3 жыл бұрын

Nearly 4 years later, I'm using one of these just as a controller for a couple switches, simply because I'm hopeless with electronics and its easier than using an Arduino, plus cheaper. Absolutely fine so far, although I feel like I'm under-utilising it so I'm thinking about making a button box just so I can make use out of the other connectors

@johnmarshall8395 5 жыл бұрын

Hey RMC! Amigos contributor John Marshall here. Just found this video when looking up info on this board. I just bought a Happ trackball to make a custom controller for Golden Tee, Centipede and Crystal Castles, among others. Great video!

@RMCRetro 5 жыл бұрын

Nice one John. I was playing golden tee at an arcade just last week. Great fun

@caseyryback6932 4 жыл бұрын

Bought one of these for a simple button box for FC3. Works like a charme. The fact that i can turn the analog Joystick into 4 more buttons with the mode option makes it 16 Buttons in total. I love it.

@jasonjones4591 3 жыл бұрын

I’ve built several arcades and used these, simple easy and just works

@atomipi 5 жыл бұрын

For most of the wired spade connectors where they go on the back of the switches pin - you press the side of the connector when you want to slide it off - this pushes a small lever, and allows the spade terminal to slide off the button.. it has a tiny metal lever catch on it to stop it falling out :)

@martinh4982 6 жыл бұрын

Worth noting that the XCSource kits come in two flavours: One with no Sanwa/Seimitsu joystick cable but 20 of the other cables, and one with a Sanwa/Seimitsu joystick cable but only 16 of the other type.

@timothyvandyke9511 3 жыл бұрын

Currently looking at using old keyboard switches to make myself a usb joystick keyboard pretty excited :D

@Xealous 6 жыл бұрын

I made a 4 button Bishi Bashi controller with this board. Completely flawless performance!

@rgbcrafts 2 жыл бұрын

Why I'm not subscribed yet? A whole 5 years watching back and forth and now I see I'm not subscribed. 🤦‍♂️ Fixed. Thanks for your review. I'm about to test mine in here and decided to look for some light on the matter.

@rgray318 4 жыл бұрын

EDIT: I answered my own question. Looks like I will need to dedicate a single switch in order to always have access to the POV Hat function. I can rewire the leds on my joystick in order for it to show both power and proper Hat mode. I was worried this device wouldn't work for a standard PC joystick, but I see now with proper modifications it most definitely should work.

@ATK10155 2 ай бұрын

Thank you much. I'm using this to create a Button/dash box for iRacing.

@roasty80 7 жыл бұрын

Used one for years. Work perfect

@anothernoob9110 4 жыл бұрын

3:35 My hitbox fightstick build had a problem precisely because of that, when it's on POV Hat mode(Green LED ON), if I pressed LEFT, DOWN, and RIGHT at the same time it would give me UP LEFT even if I didn't even have a button wired to UP, but clicking on Mode making it change to Joystick(Red LED ON) would fix it. I still had to set up those 4 directional buttons specifically as joystick input on Steam Big Picture mode tho, emulators too now that I'm remembering it. As an board for an standard arcade joystick build it would basically right off the bat even on POV Hat mode, there's just this very small inconvenience if you want to make a hitbox that you need to be aware of. But given the advantages an hitbox offers, for this cheap of a price it's a moot point.

@CutandColorDude 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the video. Getting my kit in mail soon. I will update you

@yammifletcher 4 жыл бұрын

I installed this board into my Mad Catz Street Fighter Tournament Edition Round 2 Fight stick for PS3. I used it on my older PC. On newer PCs it doesnt work anymore because of that oldschool UHCI - USB - Protocol. I didnt use the auto-fire-mode , so i connect only 10 buttons and the joystick. It works perfectly, no delay or lag. In my opinion its a cheap and good choice for Arcade-Sticks. It came with USB-Cable ( i used the longer original of my fightstick ) , 12 connector cables for Stick and buttons ( i connected the 5 pin Sanwa cable instead ) for around 10 Euros!! I did this conversion because i couldnt find a xbox version of the mad catz. The only issue with the original Sanwa-Joystick cable was that i had to turn the joystick 180 degrees. That means you have to unscrew 4 screws - thats it.

@iRDaBrit 6 жыл бұрын

Oh god. I loved my Comp pro joystick. Lasted for years. Miss it.

@user-yv2cz8oj1k 4 жыл бұрын

Recreate it with an arcade joystick, a few arcade buttons, and one of these boards, put it all in a small wooden box. Easy replacement of parts means it will probably outlive you. :D

@MentalPolution 6 жыл бұрын

I bought one to convert a nes advantage to a standard usb controller and it worked great! awesome price and it works as it should.

@lobitome 6 жыл бұрын

I haven't used mine yet, but am glad to find a video of the exact board I have. Building 2 systems.

@bazza5699 6 жыл бұрын

so i got my pack in the post today. put it together and the only difference was that my comp. pro. was a leaf sprung kind, not microswitched.. however i connected it the same way.. and then fell at the final hurdle.. i got my up/down confused when connecting the leads to the board, had to take them out and re-seat them.. also found that both fire buttons couldn't be connected to one source. otherwise very happy to use my joysticks again. If i have a complaint, it's the same was yours, the cables were too small and I'd like a box of some sort to mount it in. I think i'll use a matchbox! Many thanks for this video.. it helped me out.. especially when looking what sockets you placed the leads into on the controller..

@RMCRetro 6 жыл бұрын

You're welcome and thanks for watching I'm glad it helped you

@matthewfairbrother6348 6 жыл бұрын

I just saw this at my local electronics store. all the same markings and circuitry --- for $30. and is packaged with only 10 cables. this now reminds me to look for reviews before i purchase.

@nko4319 7 жыл бұрын

I used one of these boards, without the plastic connectors, in a handheld I built for my kid. They're cheap and they work great

@user-yv2cz8oj1k 4 жыл бұрын

I plan to make either a hitbox or standard control box using one of these, some 2.8 mm connector buttons, some very short height joystick, and two beautiful £3 chopping boards I bought. Should come in at a cost to me of around £32 as I already have the drill bits for this.

@truffeltroll6668 Жыл бұрын

Did you do it? Any Tipps for a beginner?

@andrewpaulakis7202 7 жыл бұрын

Awesome review and very helpful!

@deathshaker0026 4 жыл бұрын

I love using them. Easy to use.

@lordplenty 7 жыл бұрын

I've used two of those - one in arcade stick, another in universal converter (two 9 pin sockets driving 2 C64 joysticks at once, or both connected to drive one fightstick). Boards work really well, but quality can be an issue (I had some cold joints on one).

@moth.monster 6 жыл бұрын

the led part wires up separately, so just get a separate board to control your led

@rrichter6781 7 жыл бұрын

made a fighting stick for it and it works very well

@louster7790 6 жыл бұрын

Das Richter does it work for pc and ps4 street fighter?

@red2k69 5 жыл бұрын

I just got this board and I found out that the mode button does switch to the POV hat instead of the X/Y axis as described in the video, but it doesn't SAVE this to the board. The next time it powers up the default X/Y axis mode will be enabled. Just a heads up for those wanting to use it in a closed cabinet and don't want to add a dedicated button somewhere just to switch modes EVERY SINGLE TIME you use it..... *sigh*

@SirMorganFlint Жыл бұрын

Changing J1 to the other position will make it start in analog mode. It's also possible to change J1 for an SPDT switch

@michaelsmith792000 6 жыл бұрын

hi used this to make an arcade stick to use on my fire tv running on retro x frontend fire tv picks it up and you can map the buttons inside the app works grate it is also plugin to a USB hub

@zgn-2 6 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much !!!! I didn't find any tutorial for this controller before ! Thank you !!!!!

@Snugggg 3 жыл бұрын

it seems you can get 4 full range analog axis out of these if you remove the resistors on the board.

@kevinjking7026 2 жыл бұрын

Hmm, I'm planning on using one of these for something completely different. I'll use it in a Virtual Pipe organ to change registrations with pistons (buttons) under the keyboard. Commercial usb midi encoders can be expensive.

@bazza5699 6 жыл бұрын

A-ha!.. just ordered one of these, fingers crossed :) thanks

@Noobsault 6 жыл бұрын

I made a arcade stick using a korean lever and some seimitsu buttons. Works really well and is like 50€ cheaper than other options.

@101graffhead 6 жыл бұрын

this answered a lot of my questions thanks

@RMCRetro 6 жыл бұрын

Neelu you're welcome

7 жыл бұрын

Lovely

@nikrbawker 3 жыл бұрын

how does the turbo or auto fire function? That's what led me to the video. Might need to buy a toggle switch for that?

@chrumczyk5494 4 жыл бұрын

Does it feature x-input? I guess not, cause I would love to use it in my stick for steam shmups :)

@gravious 6 жыл бұрын

awesome video, very informative! :)

@thqp Жыл бұрын

What type of plugs do the micro switches use? XHP? I seem to have lost a couple cables, and I might need to buy replacement.

@MasterBlasta 4 жыл бұрын

Are’nt super responsive like jamma’s but they get the job done most of the time. They can glitch a bit (rarely) when pressing many buttons at the same time. It’s okey for entry level controls but don’t expect the best.

@MarkSRiddle 9 ай бұрын

Thanks for the video, does it support potentiometers by any chance even one or two for X and Y? Cheers

@aaalbert 5 жыл бұрын

Could I use this board to build something like a flight sim joystick? Couldn't find any info on that

@KneeGrowDoingKneeGrowThings 6 жыл бұрын

What are the 12 buttons for? Im guessing: the 8 standard fightstick inputs, but what are the other 4?

@branchbutler8356 6 жыл бұрын

IAmQuiteThirsty for any other buttons you might think of

@acaciaschaefer6144 5 жыл бұрын

Start, Select (Coin), and now games are putting training options on L3, R3 and Touchpad buttons.

@LetsDoThis123 7 жыл бұрын

Handy review, thank-you. I was also hoping for a jumper for the coin slot but, it doesn't appear so :-( For the price it should do the job.

@davidlescarbeau521 6 жыл бұрын

Coin impulse is like any other buttons. Map your coin door to one of the regular inputs.

@BeWrong666 6 жыл бұрын

Its advertised as a ps4 pcb also. Have u ever tried it?

@AndrewHelgeCox 2 жыл бұрын

03:30 Did you hook up a button or a switch to the mode connection? It looks like you used a toggle switch there.

@PlXlESTAR 4 жыл бұрын

they look brilliant to use for making control simulators for trucks or planes setting up buttons ect but i noticed they can not do control axis sadly

@theengineer9910 7 жыл бұрын

Ipac was confusing shit, used one when i was in 6th grade, no idea what i was doing

@LH74 Жыл бұрын

Is it possible to connect a 2" trackball to the board?

@CraigMansfield 5 жыл бұрын

Very helpful

@2playOrig 6 жыл бұрын

Nice video @RetroManCave

@fullopadmehum486 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you sir,i'm slowly getting it. :-)

@user-yv2cz8oj1k 4 жыл бұрын

Any chance of covering which connector is which and what type of button to use on each? So little information about this board.

@gerardosiete 9 ай бұрын

So, in the case where 2 buttons have to be pressed at the same time for super power movesm would the problem be the encoder or the buttons themselves? Every button works and regular moves work... only when 2 have to be pressed at the same time.

@zoltanhajdu7311 6 жыл бұрын

Hi there! I have the same configuration and i set up my arcade DIY unfortunatley both of the joystick has the same error. The UpLeft and DownRight directions do not work. Could you help me?

@nerdMike 6 жыл бұрын

Seems to be easy, and maybe I can attach 2 of this to a Pi2/3. But.. where can I find compatible and SMALL buttons? Thanks

@chrisx112x 8 күн бұрын

Im having problems with the zero delays i have 2 for two player but everytime ones disconnects on accident and reconnect it makes the 2 players works a one giant controller 😢

@Magoo277 10 ай бұрын

Does this work with the nintendo switch?

@46danz 5 жыл бұрын

That’s lucky,I bought two of these last week.

@bobparnell1501 9 ай бұрын

What it the device between the ARC and the PC? it looks like the most important piece of kit needed to get the ARK to funbction. Ive googled it and cant find anything on it. Is it a decoder or driver?

@Marcin79W 3 жыл бұрын

Can I use a pot instead of joystick? I'd like to have two separate pots, to control different axis, instead of one joy. What pot would I need?

@qualli13 2 жыл бұрын

Hello Mr. Cave and all others who night read. Were teh both variants of encoders (Ipac 2 and Zero Delay) already compared in respect of their actual Input Delay. I have my Cabinet set up with a Mister FPGA and a retropie and have both here to install. But I cannot decide. If Zero Delay would really have less delayy than Ipac 2 I would go for Zero Delay. But some technical FACTS could be usefull.

@104d_3rr0r_vince 6 жыл бұрын

I can see the delay while you're testing galaga :-/ You should make another comparison with a joypad to see if it has any difference and it's just the emulator if this is possible.

@tapoutms5608 5 жыл бұрын

RetroManCave good video I got a question I got the same board but I don’t know where is the connector for the LED’s goes please help

@robertdaves2739 6 жыл бұрын

Thinking of starting my first DIY arcade stick. Are all encoders compatible with any system? (Asking for xbox one)

@Henrix1998 Жыл бұрын

Is the microchip under the black pad? Surely there has to be one

@2ndLastJedi 2 жыл бұрын

Can a multi position rotary be added to this board? I just want it to hit a button on right turn and a different button on left turn.

@ebayseller6040 4 жыл бұрын

mine didnt come with the wire for the joystick. I tried using the single wires but my sanwa joystick has a pcb and just one single black ground wire. I daisy chained all the direction wires but it still wont work. buttons work fine so the board is good. is there anything else to try here?

@bobi_lopataru 4 жыл бұрын

Is the joystick connection analog or digital? I would like to make an h-shifter and clutch pedal for sim racing and it would help if it had analog inputs as well (for the clutch)

@cassiophone 11 ай бұрын

For some reason my joystick only works when I connect it to the regular button inputs, but it doesn't work when connected to the joystick inputs. Any ideas?

@adrianborboran3380 5 жыл бұрын

Hi can i use a dual axis joystic in that board?

@randon7694 3 жыл бұрын

would this work on a console

@DrFillyBlunt 3 жыл бұрын

Can I use rotary switches, and momentary toggle/rocker switches with these?

@capt.a.suwaiket7993 Жыл бұрын

Hello Thank you for bringing the subject.. Since operating system (windows) recognize up to 128 switches is there any way to connect two or more boards to get 24 or more micro switches using this controller Regards

@joeatkins6265 5 жыл бұрын

Anyone have any experience attaching rotary encoders to the board? Any success?

@quangle-vv4zf 3 жыл бұрын

what is the polartiy of wires when you hooked it up to the micro switches ? thanks

@jerryohhh 3 жыл бұрын

@rmc this board are really works for beatmania IIDX d.i.y controller with LED light.??

@MrKelaher 4 жыл бұрын

Have two, using with PC and MiSTer. Work great :)

@drstinky816 3 жыл бұрын

Does your pc recognize them separately?

@MrKelaher 3 жыл бұрын

@@drstinky816 I use one for each platform - never tried plugging in two at once to same machine - you mean for two player gaming ?

@Skeeve-Magick 6 жыл бұрын

It seems to me that the buttons are not switching to ground but to +5V. Can you confirm? Even the Sanwa(?) connector shows AU, AD, AL, AR and VDD not GND. This makes it impossible to use an old joystick having a auto-fire circuit built in.

@sergeantmars2640 3 жыл бұрын

can you also assign an Axis so like for flying helicopters or is it just on and off?

@gamingit1 Жыл бұрын

So i want to use this board to put ignition key and use it in ets2. So im wondering do i need to change any of controls or is it going to work on its own?

@johnparis2339 4 жыл бұрын

Would this work for a single button? I am looking for something I can hook a single button to, and the computer recognize it?

@ReeGaLeiToR 6 жыл бұрын

Hi! I have the same usb encoder and i have the push button with 4 legs… if possible use the power of USB connector?

@_Seagie 3 жыл бұрын

if I buy HAPP controls, do I need a 2 pin or 5 pin or 4.8mm usb kit?? Thanks

@PixelOutlaw 4 жыл бұрын

I'm interested in those missing sockets and spots for resistors... Anyone know what they're for?

@kendarr 2 жыл бұрын

Is it possible to use an analog stick on these? it doesn't seem like it

@victorbocanegra6711 7 жыл бұрын

Nice video, Can this USB board be used on windows 10?

@RMCRetro 7 жыл бұрын

+Victor Bocanegra yes its just fine on win 10

@user-yv2cz8oj1k 4 жыл бұрын

It works in most things, as they just see a very generic usb joystick.

@emulatorretro 6 жыл бұрын

can you use it in reverse mode so you can use usb controllers on arcade?

@dinky19810 2 жыл бұрын

Can I use led encoder with regular non-led buttons?

@AndresSalazararthub 7 жыл бұрын

Hey There, is there a way to connect LEDs to this board? I have some 5-Volt LEDs for some of the buttons, but I'm not sure if I can use this board, since there's all 2 connectors and not 3 connectors. thanks!

@RMCRetro 7 жыл бұрын

Andres Salazar I dont think so no, this is a cery basic board for control inputs only. Maybe try the Ultimarc PacLED64 for some fancy lights

@sn3lling 2 жыл бұрын

WHat is the default buttton maping? 1,2,3,4??

@myretrodays 6 жыл бұрын

Man hello.If i need more buttons and if i buy 2 of this kits...set up one for left player and other kit for right player..will it work ?I have x arcade encoder but i have a short circuit on pcb and problens with switch programming mod that i set up before and a lot of buttons is doesnt work now and i thik if i ordering this two kits and change my x arcade pcb encoder to two like this may be this will help ?

@RMCRetro 6 жыл бұрын

I haven't tried it but they sell these in packs of two for 2 player kits so my guess would be yes.

@myretrodays 6 жыл бұрын

RetroManCave hope so...try this next month, hope my umk3 reproduction will work again.So sad to loose controls and all emulators set up in my sistem..need to remap all buttons.

@daviddefortier5970 4 жыл бұрын

You say theres no noticable delay, but when i see the video of you playing that space invader type game, the ship movement was terribly far behind your joystick movements.. though i think this could be partly to blame on your monitor

@billdantes1640 6 жыл бұрын

Is it possible to connect led buttons to this board and have the led light up? I see there are different boards that have 3 pin connectors that are meant for led buttons, But was curious if there is some way to get leds to light up with this particular board?

@RMCRetro 6 жыл бұрын

This board would not send power to light up the LED's. You could perhaps use a combination of this board with the GPIO pins on the Pi to get the power to them? If you have some cash you could use something like an I-Pac Ultimate IO (www.ultimarc.com/ipac.html)

@ErenAkkaya 4 жыл бұрын

can a game steering wheel, throttle, brake, clutch gear set be made using this thing? (google translate used)

@dna0814 3 жыл бұрын

Can this board be use to power led switch’s?

@DavideBettin 4 жыл бұрын

Can u connect in a Mi Box? I did that but it doesn't recognize it

@morphshag 6 жыл бұрын

I put one of these inside a MAME cab with other emulators, The only Issue I had was the software I was using was looking for key presses, not joystick inputs. So i found apiece of software that converted joystick inputs to virtual key presses and all seemed good after that.

@RMCRetro 6 жыл бұрын

John-Paul Parker Joy2Key perhaps? Very useful bit of software

@morphshag 6 жыл бұрын

RetroManCave it may have been. I'll post photos of my Cab on Instagram. It's not pretty, but the kids love it.

@RMCRetro 6 жыл бұрын

John-Paul Parker awesome looking forward to seeing it