I'm 70 too, buddy. Don't give up, stay in shape, and keep thinking young. And, go out and buy one of these things! :-)

@@1wldnczyguy - yes boss 😁

66 I kite foil and just moved from Sydney to Diani Beach Kenya having fun every day

There's a blue pill for that

@@Picklemedia 😂🤣

Yeah there seems to be a few of them around Raglan, great zone for them there to access waves way further up the point and avoid any crowds.

Can't wait for Luke from the Raglan Surf Report to make a video about them. 😂

They are so much fun, just opens up so many possibilities! This sport just keeps getting better and better

Thanks ledge! We'll be towing around soon enough ;)

Absolutley! Thats the main thing for me, you arent sacrificing riding your smallest lightest tow gear. It just comes with no compromise to the performance while you are on foil and riding a wave.

So much fun! What it’s all about

Its rare, but occasionally we get something right haha

From nz isn't it?

Yes like all the great foil gear from Armstrong !😉@@ZeusMacindoe

Such a wild product. I’m still tripping out over it

Nice! Learning to foil has opened up so many possibilities for what you can do in the ocean.

The zipper is crazy. It's good to 15PSI, but we only run them to about 1.5PSI - heaps of head room. Just got to keep it clean and lubricated.

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HAHA it's all in the gear 🤫

Yeah its a whole new relm with the electrification of foil products. Battery deg is a great point, not sure what the cycles are like on these but I'll do an update over time. Regulation is the potential risk with these. They are ultimately safe devices is used safely... like anything its the one person that usues it incorrectly that will ruin it for all of us. But at this stage I am treating it just like I would a jetski and adhering to those regulations. Our maritime actually came out to see me using it and they were so interested in getting one for rescues. They didn't raise any concerns about safety but loved the idea of it being inflatable.

@@OskarJohansson1 yeah man, enjoy it! Imagine the future iteration if it’s already pretty good, exiting times!

Nevermind just read your reply on other comments. Thanks again!!!

Totally wide product hey. Who knows what they will come up with next!

Thanks! I actually recorded the audio straight from the gopro but then cleaned the audio in Davinci Resolve to isolate the voice.

All the water footage is from a GoPro Max that I use on a 3PV pole. Then the audio is also reordered from a GoPro but I use a voice isolator plugin in Davinci Resolve to clean out all the wind noise. Comes out looking really good!

@@OskarJohansson1 thank you oskar ! Keep ripping man🤙🏿

Yes it’s self righting if it get tumbled by a big wave. We have used a stiff PE coated rope so it resists coiling around the boogie. Giving the boogie a few presses of the trigger every few minutes while it is floating helps keep the rope out straight out the back.

I’ll second that! Happy to review anything they have haha. Thanks mate!

@@OskarJohansson1 one more thing make sure they know about you send them a link the rest will be history if I owned it I hire you haha good

Such a wild product!

A few days ago Oskar and I were out on Boogies and we got caught on the inside with a pretty big shore pound. The Boogies made it back out fine, while we had to walk a 1km down the beach to a gutter!

It is such a wild and fun product! This was shot with the GoPro Max on a carbon pole. Looks really great!

Just read your answer to other questions 👍🏻. Thanks for the review! Love your channel

Thanks mate! Yeah really different products and both have their pros/cons

Once the board gets to the surface of the water and is planing almost any sized foil will work. Some people will need to modify their starting technique to do this compared to a Jetski or boat. I start on my knees to do this.

That would be great for long trips down the coast or upwind!

Hey, there are a couple of reasons for not using credit cards or PayPal. The fees are quite high, 2-4% depending on the card. this cost would have to be added. Most high value products are done with bank transfers. The other is fraudulent charge backs. I’ve had them previously with $50 items I’ve sold and they are a nightmare. A fraudulent charge back is a risk and hassle that at the moment I can’t take so have opted for just bank transfer.

I’m 85kg

It’s more about length than volume. I’ve got up on a 11 litre WKT board with a bit of effort. You do want a board that you can paddle though just incase.

FoilDrive if you're always going alone. ZeroTow if you have friends. Traded between 3 foilers is ideal in my opinion.

I sold my foil drive for one of these and best decision. This thing is so fun. Yes it’d be a blast with friends but has been epic for solo tow sessions too. Super light, easy to get in and out of water by your self, easy to control, and you’re foiling on your regular weighted gear no battery box or prop attached to your setup. Highly recommend

I don’t think that’s necessarily a straight forward question. I think it depends on what you want to do with your foiling! My biggest thing with riding any electric products is I don’t want to sacrifice performance when I am on a wave, which is my ultimate goal. Foil drive is a great tool for learning to DW and for learning to foil in the surf. But the negatives are when you’re on a wave you have a much heavier setup and if the prop goes in the water you have a bunch of drag. ZeroTow you have no compromise on the wave experience, you can ride the smallest and lightest setup tuned to maximise performance on the wave. But it isn’t as accessible in all locations as you can’t use it near other water users. Also if you want to learn to SUP DW, it’s not going to be much help… maybe it would be good to do DW runs and then when you come down use it to get back on foil 🤷 I can already SUP DW so I am only looking for a device to help me ride waves and at the highest performance and we have heaps of spots with no people so I would choose the ZeroTow. Also I am getting almost 3 hours of battery compared to maybe 20mins with a slim and I would need a bigger board for foil drive than my 22L prone? Not a clear cut answer, but just things to consider

I’ve had this thought as well. I know there is possibility to use two batteries stacked on top of each other so that could be the solution!! Would be heavy carrying into the water though

I like where you’re head is at ;)

I treat it like a JetSki. So if anyone else is in the water, then I don’t use it. I don’t think they should be used near crowds! That’s also the joy, you can get away from the crowds with it ;)

The battery is 3kWh, and we used standard connectors. You could if you wanted to make a harness and use a 48V inverter to power almost anything!

In Australia they are $10k AUD

If you had a section of water that was protected. But as he said in choppy water it gets difficult.

Small down wind runs work ok, but going directly into chop can be hard work so if you can go upwind in a bay and then go out into the waves then that’s ideal. Having said that I haven’t winged in over 12 months and have been full time on the Boogie in any conditions and have always had fun!

Straigh into the chop is tough, but you can cut a 45 degree and zig zag you way upwind. I have done it a couple times in moderate chop, but never 15 plus knts. It is totally possible! I want to try do it on a longer DW run with a prone board. I could also start from a harbour or somewhere that normally would be a long paddle put, but with this just drive straight out and then when in the bumps get it to follow me.

Would be really interested to hear more about how this performs in a downwind situation. Not necessarily punching upwind into chop, just assisting getting prone boards on foil and following along.

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Inside the zip is completely waterproof. I leave my phone and a towel in there all the time. Lunch for a trip to an island would awesome!

The idea is to keep the weight off the board. Efoils are like a driving a bus, a using a foil like this is like driving a sports car.

Im 95kg and get about 2hours or 30km range when in the surf.

@@markduyvesteyn is that 2 hours the total time being towed on foil, or does it the entire session of 2 hours.

That’s a good question, I don’t actually know! Just like a FoilDrive it would be setup related. I’m sure I could ride a big slow foil and cruise around at 10% throttle for literally hours on end. But if I ride my MA625 tow foil it might only be an hour and a bit. Just a best guess though 🤷

No drone, its actually all from a GoPro Max... 360 camera. The camera uses two lenses that overlap over the pole holding the camera and it appears invisible. I dip the camera every now and then to stop salt water drying on the lenses and making it blurry.

It’s funny, I had the same perspective! But think about it in reverse, a brand new Yamaha FX is the same as 3 new Boogies. Factor in ski/trailer rego, servicing, licenses, fuel, and car maintenance from reversing into the ocean, might as well add a fourth boogie haha. And you still need another foiler to drive and they’ll take 50% of the waves. So wave per dollar you’re looking at a 1 to 8 ratio comparing new ski to new boogie. Now you’re thinking it’s a bargain 😉 Still nothing wrong with the prone setup we all still own! We are just creatures that always seem want more 😞

@@OskarJohansson1 true

But it's 1/3 the price of a jetski and has no registration, servicing or fuel costs... 🤔

$10k AUD... 1/3 of the price of a new Yamaha FX ;) haha

Now that would be interesting! Gen 2 maybe haha

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All of the development and testing was done by me. Im 95KG and use a 34L board. Have a look at oceanpixles videos, he's bigger than me!

Go watch @Oceanpixels he is 96-98kg and uses it all the time