ZOHD Nano Talon - iNav + LiIon battery upgrade (2 hour flight time potential)
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I finally got around to installing an iNav autopilot in the Nano Talon! Still have some tuning and configuring to do, but it has promise, especially because of the new 4S 3120mAh LiIon battery pack, which potentially promises up to 2 hours of flight time, out of only 523 grams of flying weight! There will be more on this one for sure!
My blog: arxangelrc.blogspot.bg/2017/1...
ZOHD Nano Talon: www.banggood.com/ZOHD-Nano-Ta...
Omnibus F3 Pro flight controller board: www.banggood.com/30-5-30-5mm-...
GPS unit: www.banggood.com/NZ-GPS-For-N...
Matek PDB: www.banggood.com/Matek-Mini-P...
Cicada 30A 2-4S BB2 ESC: arxangelrc.com/index.php?route...
Pin header: www.banggood.com/2_54mm-3x40P...
Special edition Taranis: www.banggood.com/FrSky-2_4G-1...
or: www.gearbest.com/radios-recei...
or: goo.gl/Whcnt1
or: goo.gl/D5bQ2C
FrSky XM+ receiver: www.banggood.com/Frsky-XM-Mic...
Foxeer Arrow V3: www.banggood.com/FOXEER-Arrow...
RunCam Split 2: www.banggood.com/RunCam-Split...
Eachine TX801 Vtx: www.banggood.com/Eachine-TX80...
EV800D Goggles: www.banggood.com/Eachine-EV80...
Video gear:
Panasonic Lumix G7
Zhiyun Crane Gimbal: goo.gl/7pZBCy / shrsl.com/j3qm
FeiYu Tech Wearable Gimbal: goo.gl/EG8bKN
FireFly 6S camera: www.gearbest.com/action-camer...
SJ7 Star action camera: www.gearbest.com/action-camera...
FireFly 8S camera: www.banggood.com/Hawkeye-Fire...
@mccc4559 5 жыл бұрын
Oh what a cool treat to be surprised by your videos! We sure appreciate you sharing your wisdom and experience. Thank You!
@ArxangelRC 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate, appreciate the compliments! :)
@thomascannon5348 6 жыл бұрын
Watching this with great interest as I want to do exactly this with the same model! Thanks so much for all the details.
@ArxangelRC 6 жыл бұрын
You are welcome! :)
@FirenikoTube 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks! very good job! You are THE BEST reviewer. Very helpfull even for already more then 4 years in RC. Good luck.
@ArxangelRC 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate! Appreciate the support!
@HariKalay 6 жыл бұрын
This is amazing! awesome and interesting video - a clean build. Thanks for sharing.
@ArxangelRC 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Hari! :)
@urlawyer 6 жыл бұрын
Well done! Thanks for the thorough yet concise video.
@ArxangelRC 6 жыл бұрын
You are welcome! Thank you for the support. :)
@cenabitednbfpv587 4 жыл бұрын
Love it I also started using a lithium-ion but due to weight I moved the gopro to the nose and battery to camera bay, seems to work great as a temp solution. Thanks for the video!
@ArxangelRC 4 жыл бұрын
Well... doesn't matter, as long as the CG is right and the plane flies well! :) Sounds pretty good! :)
@fragmaster76 6 жыл бұрын
Exited you catched up this inav topic :) can't wait for part two :D
@ArxangelRC 6 жыл бұрын
Haha, thanks! I still have my doubts... in my opinion iNav is not mature enough yet... but it will get there... and in the meantime I could get to know it! :)
@arruntus 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, I don't think anyone would say it's not a good review of the editing. Good job :)
@ArxangelRC 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Next time I should include more iNav setup stuff... I think the video is lacking in that department, but all will be explained in the blog! :)
@DavieRooker 6 жыл бұрын
Very interesting, looking forward to the next instalment. Hoping to maiden my almost standard Nano this weekend.
@ArxangelRC 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks! And good luck with yours! :)
@alasdair4161 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent work. I have mine running 3S with Samsung 25R's and I have passed 1Hr 20 minutes and landed with 3.1v/cell. I also ditched the stock drunken sailor stabiliser for a Hobbyeagle A3 Super II which is as good as any stabiliser can get, and added a KST 0.07 sec aileron servo, a Skylark GPS/osd, L9R with antenna's kept internal, and it is awesome.. it flies rock solid stable yet fully aerobatic performance with incredible roll/recovery rate, I've passed 5km and 6000 feet then cruised trimmed down for over half an hour without any throttle. Currently waiting for a mini split, and I can ditch the 808 and RC Swift and improve CD even more. I also made a brace for aileron pivot sleeves and run a 6v BEC, and 330Hz servo frequency. My AUW is 510g/530g (+808) and with the mini split will be 515. Totally love this plane, I haven't touched anything else since.. it just does everything, even thermals..
@ArxangelRC 6 жыл бұрын
VERY NICE! Good job! Will report back on mine when I sort out the iNav stuff and get to the real flying! :)
@mueller9539 6 жыл бұрын
some times the home arrow problem (or any osd problem) can be fixed but uploading a new font, my last build the vbat wasnt showing properly and iIuploaded the bold fount and presto! nice video, I find you do a good job making videos interesting and not dragging them out to long, keep it up!
@ArxangelRC 6 жыл бұрын
Nice tip, will try that, thanks! Yeah, I do try to keep it short and simple, and even though I don't think I am hitting the "simple" mark every time, I do try to keep the videos as short as possible, without compromising the amount of bare minimum information that needs to be shared! :)
@maikwerner7325 6 жыл бұрын
great video!!! Thank you for all the information and the explanation. It is really helpful!
@ArxangelRC 6 жыл бұрын
You are welcome! :)
@steinne 6 жыл бұрын
Great video! Look forward to your next one. Cheers
@ArxangelRC 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you! :)
@lagonaki3791 6 жыл бұрын
thanks a lot for this video! It's really helpful.
@ArxangelRC 6 жыл бұрын
You are welcome! :)
@kkrampus 6 жыл бұрын
If you use a Taranis or any other OpenTX radio you can see up flight modes so that when you switch out of passthrough mode all the trims are turned to zero and when you switched back they are returned. I used this a lot a couple years ago with a motor glider so I could set separate trims for motor on, glide, flaps and crow.
@ArxangelRC 6 жыл бұрын
That is an option too... but I think I prefer to let iNav know which values are a level trim, rather than relying on it to figure this out in the stabilized modes! :) But this could be useful in other applications... haven't though of it, thanks! :)
@NOXFPV 5 жыл бұрын
Allways love your videos.
@ArxangelRC 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate, appreciate it! :)
@djvaliro 6 жыл бұрын
very nice technical presentation !
@ArxangelRC 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you! :)
@JR-kk6ce 6 жыл бұрын
I find the putting together of the battery pack interesting and useful.
@ArxangelRC 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks! :)
@SomethingFishy707 6 жыл бұрын
great video, I'm setting up a nano talon with inav, l9r, runcam split, and 18650 liIon here in a few weeks got everything ordered last week! I have bigger planes with arkbird but was looking for something more compact.
@ArxangelRC 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, this one is a very good compact platform! Good luck! :)
@EnglishTurbines 6 жыл бұрын
Great close ups, so very clear and in focus...I love iNAV, it worked brilliantly for me all last Summer. I thought you made hard work of the Camera and VTX wiring myself....The RAM pins will provide main Lipo voltage to both Camera and VTX which gives a standard 3 pin servo plug for both...? You need to use the M8N GPS Module....20 Sats...it's so much better and more reliable too. My favourite Mode to fly in is Horizon Mode combined with Altitude Hold, its really good for when you want to watch the scenery without having to watch the planes attitude all the while.
@ArxangelRC 6 жыл бұрын
Haha, thanks! Will get to the flight modes when I am done making it fly level without them! :) As for the video and camera... not using the RAM on board for a reason - first, even though the Vtx can handle 4S, my Split is the first one, and it only takes 5v, and I certainly don't want to risk taking those from the FC, and having it lock out in flight due to the regs being overloaded; second, I do prefer to go via the Matek board, as it has a 3A reg for the 5v, and a 2A one for the 12v, and they are really well filtered, so video should be quite clean, and I don't have to use an additional LC filter! As for the GPS unit... since I want to be able to also connect my antenna tracker there from time to time, I can't use Ublox 8... besides... what I have in there now is a lot lighter... and has worked well so far! :)
@Lusby43 6 жыл бұрын
Like your videos mate. One thing to note is the pitch to throttle setting in iNav is not just for flying wings, it is for all fixed wings. It does not pitch the plane down when throttle is applied, it increases throttle when the aircraft is pitched up so that speed is maintained and the plane does not stall. Also only active in autonomous modes.
@ArxangelRC 6 жыл бұрын
Hmmm... I will look into this and perhaps run some more tests, but when I first installed this board in my Believer, this mix had the nasty effect of pitching down the plane every time I raise the throttle in any of the stabilized modes! It was pure luck that it didn't crash it a few times and I was able to recover the plane! Testing on the ground revealed exactly this - higher throttle, more down pitch!!! I understand your idea... but I am pretty certain it did not work like this for me!
@Lusby43 6 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure why you saw that pitching down effect, and I did see that video (great looking plane BTW!). There is discussion on github about how to calculate the additional thrust to compensate for pitching up in relation to this setting. I have checked the effect it has on climbing to min altitude when RTH is activated, and the increase in throttle while climbing appears to change with this setting. From the iNav wiki: nav_fw_pitch2thr 10 (default value) Amount of throttle applied related to pitch attitude in GPS assisted modes Keep up the great work ArxangelRC!!
@ArxangelRC 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jason! I will look into it with the Nano Talon perhaps... it is cheaper to loose it than the Believer! :D
@MichelPASTOR 6 жыл бұрын
You should use the "servo autotrim" flight mode. No need to trim using the radio with iNav. It is a lot more convenient.
@ArxangelRC 6 жыл бұрын
Will look into it, thanks! :)
@MrCottonmouth 6 жыл бұрын
I thought the same thing. Great video, good information. Awesome little plane!
@ArxangelRC 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks! :)
@Politicallyhomeless957 4 жыл бұрын
I gotta try Inav out 👍
@Hyperious_in_the_air 6 жыл бұрын
I have a ZOHD dart right now with inav in it, and I love it to death. It's more of a park flyer build though. Now I'm tempted to get a Nano Talon to use as my long-range plane to replace my dead FX-79 Buffalo since it seems even more efficient than even a flying wing.
@ArxangelRC 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the Nano Talon is an efficient plane... really impressive if I might add! :)
@NOXFPV 3 жыл бұрын
Great video.
@ArxangelRC 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@chapinoable 5 жыл бұрын
playback speed 1.25x in perfect, Good tutorial
@ArxangelRC 5 жыл бұрын
So you like even quicker talking? :D
@didactylos4diddy474 6 жыл бұрын
Interesting video and good first steps. Whilst I'm not a distance flier some of the tech involved here would be useful even for single field flying. Thanks
@ArxangelRC 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, this can be used for close range flying as well! The safety in having auto modes is great!
@REDROBRCFPV 6 жыл бұрын
I read that if you plug in the plane while pointing the airplane in the North direction will make the home arrow work. I haven’t tried it but it’s worth a try. Great video though !
@ArxangelRC 6 жыл бұрын
Haha, will try that, thanks! However, since I do not use a compass... this makes very little sense! Even if there was a compass... don't really see the relation between the two... but will give it a try for sure! :) Thing is... it works perfectly on my Believer, no matter where I point it during power up! :)
@DivisionRc 4 жыл бұрын
how heavie was yours in grams? i got a eagle tree vector and a 3300mah lipo right now and about to maiden it (autopilot maiden). mine is 708g
@ArxangelRC 4 жыл бұрын
If memory serves... 530 grams roughly!
@NMdesertracer 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@ArxangelRC 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks! :)
@kral5932 6 жыл бұрын
Great video, although I do not advise using an NZ GPS, it gets bad signal and can cause flyaways. You can already see the home arrow pointing the wrong way.
@KurtisRupnow 6 жыл бұрын
I thought I read something about re-uploading the fonts for iNav 1.7.3 to get home arrow to work correctly.
@ArxangelRC 6 жыл бұрын
Hmmm... I have been using it on a few other models as well, and I have not seen any issues with it yet! The home arrow is blinking in addition to not pointing to home... so it is possible the issue is not with the GPS unit! It has been working perfectly on my XK A1200 and on my Believer in terms of accurate positioning and home arrow direction, and RTH.
@tiberiocellini3641 6 жыл бұрын
ArxangelRC I am planning to build an autonomous solar powered boat. Do you think this gps unit and inav will work to control it? I'm still prototyping, but the even better thing is that I am testing 3d printed hulls (Inspiring myself by Peter Sripol Boats)
@SteveLoves2Fly 6 жыл бұрын
Great video, i have spotlighted it on Facebook- RC Planes Enthusiasts.
@ArxangelRC 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you! :) Much appreciated!
@michaeljeremiassen9692 6 жыл бұрын
Did you ever finde a solution to the wobble, you talked about in the first Nano Talon video?
@ArxangelRC 6 жыл бұрын
Haven't gotten to dealing with this yet! When I flew it the other day it was completely calm... so really no idea if it will wobble! I have sorted out the trims and am waiting for the wind to die down so I can go out and fly... hopefully tomorrow! If not... some day during the week!
@agedfpv7351 6 жыл бұрын
@ArxangelRC I dont understand, Where is the compass? and SDA SCL connection. I just see the gps and omnibus f4. The FC has no compass. How does it fly without compass?
@ArxangelRC 6 жыл бұрын
It flies a lot better without the compass actually! You need a compass only on a copter, which will be stationary some of the time and the autopilot has no other way of determining heading. A plane is always moving, and the autopilot can calculate a very accurate heading from the GPS data, so you don't need a compass, which is just another complication on an already complex system. If I can I always choose to go without a compass on a plane, I have been getting much better results as far as auto modes are concerned.
@NaEstradaComCristini 4 жыл бұрын
Ola. comprei uma controladora Omnibus F4 pro.. instalei e configurei ela.. porem nao consigo ter informacoes de bateria nem corrente no OSD.. fica tudo zero. sera que eu esqueci de ligar algo?
@ArxangelRC 4 жыл бұрын
Well that is a complex question! Where did you connect the battery to? Which firmware are you using on it? Have you enabled voltage and current monitoring in the firmware?
4 жыл бұрын
I have a zohd and I put a f411 for wing and every thing works . I have a stryx 3s 3200 lion battery I want to use . When I plug it in all is good till I arm and throttle up , then the beeper starts beeping , beep,beep beep, ect . WHY Thank you for any Help . steady beep.
@ArxangelRC 4 жыл бұрын
What beeper?
@jianzanella 6 жыл бұрын
friend I'm putting together a similar one with FC F4, but I've seen a lot of people say that V-Tail might have some problems with INAV when the RTH is triggered, have you ever had a problem with that? Do you have any tips for me?
@ArxangelRC 6 жыл бұрын
In my last test of the NT I did test RTH extensively, and it was working perfectly! If the V-tail mix works in one mode... there is no reason why it wouldn't work in the others. Perhaps the people having the problems have an issue with something else, and they blame it on the V-tail mix!
@ArxangelRC 6 жыл бұрын
Just don't forget to check if all channels are stabilizing correctly, and if not, reverse them from iNav, not from the radio!
@termitehards 2 жыл бұрын
masha Allah… only just seen this, I have a nano talon… and was going to build for long flights, insha Allah will be using ardupilot though - which FC would you recommend for the space available, thank you brother
@ArxangelRC 2 жыл бұрын
I think the Matek Wing series will fit in there as well, or the WSE models, as they are a bit smaller!
@Koestel-FPV 5 жыл бұрын
nice but, do you rely on voltage or consumption (mah) in flight? The current sensor is not reliable on inav 2.0
@ArxangelRC 5 жыл бұрын
I usually get along just fine on voltage alone, although I was able to get the current sensor pretty well calibrated here! I no longer use iNav... tried to kill a few planes too many times! Now I run with Omnibus F4 Pro boards with ArduPlane on them.
@Koestel-FPV 5 жыл бұрын
@@ArxangelRC Inav works fine but not with Omnibus F4 cards but Matek ...
@ArxangelRC 5 жыл бұрын
Doesn't help me much! :) Besides, I ran it on an Omni F3 Pro! :)
@MolokaiBoy_808 Жыл бұрын
Were you actually able to get 2hrs of flight tine with that 4s1p li-ion?
@ArxangelRC 11 ай бұрын
Not really, did not fly the plane long enough to be able to do those tests.
@cj29558 6 жыл бұрын
Thx for the informative video Whats the range on the plane and current setup?
@ArxangelRC 6 жыл бұрын
IF flight time really is around 2 hours... I'd say it can easily cover 80 kms in that time, if not more!
@johnstotler6237 3 жыл бұрын
This does seem exceedingly complex compared to other builds that accomplish similar things. That's not criticism, you know what you're doing and do good work, this just seems like a lot for a beginner to absorb.
@ArxangelRC 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, it is! Vector, EagleTree and MFD Crosshair are much easier for beginners!
@Migueldeservantes 5 жыл бұрын
With the mini-split, consider to use an LCfilter you may be having problems with your power supply...
@ArxangelRC 5 жыл бұрын
That is by far not the biggest problem here! iNav was trying to get me...
@leopoldosilva6847 4 жыл бұрын
Hello, can you tell me if this are stable on the wind?
@ArxangelRC 4 жыл бұрын
Well... the original NT... not really! But small planes rarely are calm and stable in high winds!
@alfonsoirwin8372 6 жыл бұрын
Nice video.. Short and precise.. Just one suggestion. Update to iNav 1.8. It's way better and all the bugs are fixed.. If you are using the old version only for the Painless 360 vid. Of the aileron mix, there is a new version on the wiki for the nano talon mix.
@ArxangelRC 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks... OK, will consider updating the firmware version, it is just that after releasing it a lot of people were reporting problems, which were actually non existent on 1.73, which I then had on my Believer, hence why I stuck with it here! :)
@pawanv86 6 жыл бұрын
I suggest you to give set the pitch to +3° in iNAV. (Pitch gets reversed to Roll when you change the board orientation, check the live orientation after changes to verify) It'll help with keeping the plane straight during take offs without having to touch the elevator sticks.
@ArxangelRC 6 жыл бұрын
My take off was in passthru mode, so giving any pitch compensations to iNav would not make a difference in this situation! When I am done with the trims I will see how it flies in the stabilized modes, and only then will know if it needs any corrections. Will probably start using the auto takeoff at some point, so that should take care of keeping the plane level! To be honest, on 4S the NT can take off vertically... so really not that worried about it dipping too much! :)
@pawanv86 6 жыл бұрын
Haha true!
@mauldek9352 5 жыл бұрын
Hey m'en what its you motor use ?
@ArxangelRC 5 жыл бұрын
Hey, it is the stock motor that comes with the PNP package.
@littlbox 6 жыл бұрын
Hi .I am building my Inav nano talon kit ,these days ,and I was wondering If I have to set any reflex for level flight at the elevators, like my S800?
@ArxangelRC 6 жыл бұрын
If there is any, I did not set it up on purpose! I think it needs some up elevator for level flight, but that would also depend on your CG. Will have to see where it is on mine.
@littlbox 6 жыл бұрын
Thanx.I read in some posts rcgroups that 1mm reflex is needed, but I am not sure if Inav needs it.Also would you mind sharing your piffs?
@ArxangelRC 6 жыл бұрын
Can't say for sure it is 1mm... but I think some was needed... depending on CG. For the time being my PIFFs are absolutely default, and are crap, so no use sharing them at this time!
@littlbox 6 жыл бұрын
ArxangelRC thanx
@federico1414 6 жыл бұрын
How did you get rssi? I have the exact same electronics, except for de receiver, x8r
@ArxangelRC 6 жыл бұрын
The X8R, sadly, only outputs the RSSI on a pin, and the receiving pin on the Omnibus F3 Pro is not used for this anymore... so you can't really use it! It works for me because the XM+ can output the RSSI to a channel over the SBUS connection, which iNav can be setup to read! There is a way to do this same thing with the X8R via the Taranis menu, but it is sort of a workaround, the firmware for the X8R itself does not support it like on the XM+.
@federico1414 6 жыл бұрын
oooh, i have a 9x with xjt module, so, i screwed up! maybe when i buy the qx7s! thanks anyway, love your videos!
@ArxangelRC 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate! Good luck! :)
@DivisionRc 4 жыл бұрын
hi im having issues with my ap and getting it so my nano talon evo will keep it level. what gains do you have yours at?
@ArxangelRC 4 жыл бұрын
What autopilot are you using?
@DivisionRc 4 жыл бұрын
@@ArxangelRC Eagle Tree Microvector
@ArxangelRC 4 жыл бұрын
@@DivisionRc Well I flew mine with an iNav and then an ArduPlane controller... so cannot say anything about gains on Eagle Tree! :(
@holoduke51a 5 жыл бұрын
when soldering is required it is easier to just take a seperate strip of nickel. solder the wires on it and only after that spot weld it to your battery. Because even 5 secs of high heat will slightly damage the battery. And because you will end up with different battery qualities, the whole pack will degrade faster. I believe that you were using plated nickelstrips (usually sparks compared to pure nickel). Its fine to use them, but remember that a 0.15mm thick plated nickelstrip is most efficient at 4amps. You need to use at least 8 layers to handle 30A efficiently. I believe the Talon uses only +- 5-10amps at cruise speed. So 2 to 3 layers is an absolute minimum. Better use one single 0.30mm pure nickelstrip. BTW: For long range low amp UAV's I tested quite some different batteries. I find the Samsung 30q (15A) overall the winner.
@ArxangelRC 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah... might have to get some thicker strips... I have soldered to cells before, and I don't even keep the soldering iron for 5 secs... less... I know it can damage them, hence why I am careful! :)
5 жыл бұрын
Buenas noches, sabría decirme cuánto ángulo tienen que tener las súperficies de control, en especial la profundidad, gracias. Good evening, someone would know how much angle the control surfaces need to have, especially the depth, thanks
@ArxangelRC 5 жыл бұрын
Hi, I always use full servo travel and only dial in some EXPO if needed.
5 жыл бұрын
@@ArxangelRC muchas gracias, un saludo.
@ArxangelRC 5 жыл бұрын
You are welcome! :)
@hobbypilots794 6 жыл бұрын
Hi, are you able to have RTH mode with this board, any programming required for the GPS
@ArxangelRC 6 жыл бұрын
No programming for the GPS, just plugged it in and it worked! RTH was working OK.
@hobbypilots794 6 жыл бұрын
ArxangelRC can you please share the GPS link thanks
@ArxangelRC 6 жыл бұрын
Its this one: goo.gl/TkHTkc
@hobbypilots794 6 жыл бұрын
ArxangelRC thanks
@ArxangelRC 6 жыл бұрын
You are welcome! :)
@northernfpv9562 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Arxangel are you using the stock motor and prop?
@ArxangelRC 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, I am.
@northernfpv9562 6 жыл бұрын
Where did you end up moving the CG please? I find my NT can barely climb with a 1500 4s.
@ArxangelRC 6 жыл бұрын
Right now the plane is balanced neutral at the CG markings! How heavy is yours?
@pilotandorc2922 5 жыл бұрын
Which store bought this battery? What's her name?
@ArxangelRC 5 жыл бұрын
Haha, I made this battery myself! :)
@karengrigoryan3085 Жыл бұрын
hello, do you have a channel with russian translations?
@ArxangelRC Жыл бұрын
I do not.
@tomsop 6 жыл бұрын
Have you tried auto launch mode - no need to have your friend launch for you.
@ArxangelRC 6 жыл бұрын
Not yet, will get to it in due time! I use the Auto take off on the APM on my Clouds, and it works perfectly every time! :)
@blackbirdboy1 6 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to sseing how far you can get out of the Xm+ Micro. I've had 6K on my Z84 and didn't hit Failsafe at that.
@ArxangelRC 6 жыл бұрын
Damn... that's good news... I guess I will know first chance I get to get out of town to fly! Will also have to make sure my iNav works perfectly before I try that, so I can avoid loosing the plane.
@blackbirdboy1 6 жыл бұрын
You'll know pretty early on if its working ok. It doesn't seem to need to be dialed in perfect for RTH to work great.
@ArxangelRC 6 жыл бұрын
Haha, yeah, that is true! :) But then on my Believer... RTH worked perfectly first time I tried it... never did after that! Hahaha
@MichelPASTOR 6 жыл бұрын
I don't think it is a big deal if you don't heat them too much but one trick to keep the batteries cool is to use a wet sponge to cool the ends of the cells as soon as you're done soldering.
@ArxangelRC 6 жыл бұрын
That is a good idea, thanks! :)
@FPVunlimitedDronesFPV 4 жыл бұрын
Motor and propeller?
@ArxangelRC 4 жыл бұрын
Stock!
@DashzRight 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video. But how are you able to achieve 1 hour flight time with half of the capacity of that battery? I'm building a AR Wing 900 with a very similar motor and prop and a 2200mah batt, and the flight time people get with it is 20mins o.o I was so worried about it that I'm thinking about replace this setup for a 1200kv motor with a 8" prop and Lion batteries lol
@ArxangelRC 4 жыл бұрын
Well... not half the capacity... but full flight time was around 100 mins, if I remember correctly! It is just that the plane is very small, relatively low drag, pretty light for the setup, AND the stock motor is actually pretty efficient because it is a low Kv one, that would normally be used with 6S on a racing copter, and I am only giving it 4S here! All works out to an efficient flight!
@MarcAntoineBvl 5 жыл бұрын
Do you think doubling battery capacity will do on this plane?
@ArxangelRC 5 жыл бұрын
Doubling the LiIon cells? That means another 200 grams... not sure it will be OK!
@MarcAntoineBvl 5 жыл бұрын
Makes sense. Thanks for the answer. I started my build and realized my S6r isn't compatible with the F405 Wing. Will try to get an XM+ asap
@ArxangelRC 5 жыл бұрын
Haha.. yeah... not sure but I think the S6R doesn't have SBUS...
@pilotandorc2922 5 жыл бұрын
Onde compro dessa bateria?
@ArxangelRC 5 жыл бұрын
I made this battery myself, but you can look for Titan power batteries... not sure but I think they had some LiIon packs if I remember the name correctly!
@joshuakotei6261 3 жыл бұрын
could you tell me which transmitter should i get since it doesn't come with it but can i use the flysky i6X
@ArxangelRC 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! Also, any radio system would do, as long as it has PWM outputs, if you are not planning on using an autopilot!
@joshuakotei6261 3 жыл бұрын
@@ArxangelRC which Planes should I choose the nano or hubsan h301s
@ArxangelRC 3 жыл бұрын
@@joshuakotei6261 Is the Hubsan still being sold? The Hubsan comes complete... just have to put the wings on, charge the battery and go flying! The Nano Talon requires a bit more work and electronics to be added to it before it can fly! A receiver and a battery at the least.
@joshuakotei6261 3 жыл бұрын
Here in germany it is being sold on eBay for 180 euro wiring is no problem so hubsan or nano
@ArxangelRC 3 жыл бұрын
@@joshuakotei6261 They are quite different models, that would depend on your preference! For the sake of simplicity in terms of building, definitely the Hubsan! For customizability, speed, etc., Nano Talon.
@kywon_m_vlogs1742 5 жыл бұрын
Do installing an lsr reciever requires soldering?
@ArxangelRC 5 жыл бұрын
LSR?
@kywon_m_vlogs1742 5 жыл бұрын
That reciever.
@ArxangelRC 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, it does require some soldering!
@kywon_m_vlogs1742 5 жыл бұрын
???? It requires soldering?? I thought it was plyf and play.
@ArxangelRC 5 жыл бұрын
The stock Nano Talon is plug-n-play! Having installed an autopilot... things change and you will need to get your hands dirty! In any case... learning how to solder properly is perhaps the most important skill in this hobby!
@qfdforme 6 жыл бұрын
What’s the all up weight with all of these mods?
@ArxangelRC 6 жыл бұрын
It is 523 grams! :)
@qfdforme 6 жыл бұрын
At ArxangelRC mine is a rather portly 578 grams with a 4S 2500/20c Samsung 25r 18650 cells
@ArxangelRC 6 жыл бұрын
Well... as long as it is under 600 grams, I think you are good. :)
@mauldek9352 5 жыл бұрын
salut mec si je mais une batterie comme sa a l'interieur de l'avion je peut voler longtemps ? www.studiosport.fr/batterie-lithium-ion-4s-7000-mah-2c-xt60-titan-a14614.html
@ArxangelRC 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah... should fly for very long, but this battery is a tad heavier for the Nano Talon... and I suppose it will not fly too well... and will feel like a brick in the air!
@mauldek9352 5 жыл бұрын
ok thanks men ;)
@ArxangelRC 5 жыл бұрын
You are welcome! :)
@MatheusSSchmitz 4 жыл бұрын
523g with the battery??
@ArxangelRC 4 жыл бұрын
Indeed! :)
@MrGotropic 6 жыл бұрын
dAS IS GOOD
@ArxangelRC 6 жыл бұрын
Sure is! :)
@mortache 5 жыл бұрын
Any f4/f7 flight controller that can comfortably run on 5v or on 2s Li-ion down to 6v? The specs on Matek sometimes say 6v but sometimes say 6.5v.
@ArxangelRC 5 жыл бұрын
Hmmmm... I would have thought they all can run off of a 5v source!!! The Omni F4 Pro can have up to 6S pack connected on the inputs for the power module, and it works well, I assume the internal regulators powering it are 5v.
@mortache 5 жыл бұрын
@@ArxangelRC I know that switching step down voltage regulators get really noisy once the input voltage goes close to the output voltage (dropout voltage which is about 6.5v for some common buck converters). But i have no way of reliably knowing that voltage in a board. If the board components run on 5v then there could be a way to run them with an external 5v BEC
@ArxangelRC 5 жыл бұрын
Well you could... but you will have to disconnect the internal BEC somehow... not sure how this will work! Was looking at the specs of the Matek Wing controllers, the F405 and F722, and they have an internal 2A 5v BEC to power the FC and its peripherals, and then a separate BEC with selectable voltage to power the servos, and then depending on the battery voltage... you can power the video system either via 9v or 12v... so for that 12v preferably with a 4S battery at least! 9v would be for 3S.
@mortache 5 жыл бұрын
@@ArxangelRC i can run Runcam Split mini and TBS Unify pro32 vtx on 5v, so at least that side of things is covered. Only the flight controller is what i'm concerned about. If i can get that to run on 5v or 2s Li-ion, i can build a plane that's 200grams with decent range
@ArxangelRC 5 жыл бұрын
So you want the plane to fly on 2S?
@EduardoFritisRealtor 6 жыл бұрын
In a blog you made you mentioned you flew 60 minutes with 1300 mA used. How many kilometres did you covered in that plane? I’m interested
@ArxangelRC 6 жыл бұрын
Sadly I don't know! It was with the stock ZOHD stabilizer unit, and I had no way to measure that back then! Will know how much I've covered when I do the endurance with the LiIon now, hopefully tomorrow! :)
@EduardoFritisRealtor 6 жыл бұрын
ArxangelRC Thanks! I’m really interested in the mA/km of this wonderful plane!!
@ArxangelRC 6 жыл бұрын
I think its pretty low in any case! The plane is small, and yet has a good cruise speed, but I will have more specific data when I am done with the endurance! :)
@EduardoFritisRealtor 6 жыл бұрын
ArxangelRC My best performing plane is the SonicModell Mako. I get 80 mA/km average at 57 km/hr. My flights are tops 47 min. With 4000 mAh 4S. That’s what so intriguing from your plane! One hour with only 1300 mA! Phenomenal! I’m all for performance... and long range.
@ArxangelRC 6 жыл бұрын
As far as I know, the Mini Talon can do something like 60-70 mA/km with some good speed... but actually getting to these levels of efficiency requires that you fly it a bit tail heavy, and in that instance it does like to tip stall if speed gets low for some reason... and I would like to stay away from planes like this now! :)
@MechSolid 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. Great info. Compass error could be because of the li-ion housings, they are ferrous and fairly thick and will affect the compass readings, i have found they to be at least 3 inches aways from my compass/mag.
@ArxangelRC 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you! As for a compass... not using one! The GPS unit does not have a compass, and neither does the board! I am NOT a fan of compasses on a plane, in my experience they cause more issues than good, since the plane is pretty much always moving anyway, the GPS can provide a pretty accurate heading, without being compromised by how close it is to power wires, etc. Besides, I think iNav itself prefers to use the GPS for that, and no a compass! :)
6 жыл бұрын
About ZOHD. In my list I chose the model with all the electronics from the manufacturer (ZOHD Nano Talon 860mm Wingspan AIO HD V-Tail EPP FPV RC Airplane PNP With FPV) to facilitate my initiation to this wing, I pondered just to add the FrSky ACCST Taranis X9D PLUS 16CH 2.4GHz Transmitter with X8R and a FrSky 40A Smart Port Current Ampere Sensor FAS-40 Sport!!! What you say? Change! You suggest?
@ArxangelRC 6 жыл бұрын
I guess this could work, given that it comes with everything, including a camera and a video transmission system! Just have to make sure you keep the CG right and it will serve you well! But still... a larger plane is good too! :)
6 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much for the your feedback. Let's see what I can do with this setup!!! Of course, I will ask for your "help me". Let's go forward... Thank you, regards!!!
@ArxangelRC 6 жыл бұрын
No problem mate! :)
@raptr49 6 жыл бұрын
Can you share your iNav PIFF settings please?
@ArxangelRC 6 жыл бұрын
PIFF??
@raptr49 6 жыл бұрын
iNav now uses Proportional, Integral, Feed Forward. Used to be PID. Proportional, Integral, Differential.
@ArxangelRC 6 жыл бұрын
I see... well those are absolutely the default for iNav for the time being! This will be the last thing I will get to... IF needed, once I am done sorting everything out with this controller.
@raptr49 6 жыл бұрын
ArxangelRC Thanks for the reply. Sounds like you are getting good results with the defaults. By the way I really enjoy all of your videos. Great style that is informative and straight to the point.
@ArxangelRC 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate! Yes, for the time being the defaults seem to work well, as far as I can tell! When I fly it next... which will not be today as it is raining, I will pay special attention to the way it stabilizes... and will see if PIFF tuning will change anything a bit further down the line! :)
@kywon_m_vlogs1742 5 жыл бұрын
Correct me if I'm wrong but, if you were to find 2 *10,000MAH 7.4v 2S* batteries, the small ones. 7.4v×2 is 14.8v. so not only I used two battery's to come up to perfection for my powertrain, but I just made a 20,000mah battery??
@ArxangelRC 4 жыл бұрын
Mind sharing which batteries are those?
@kywon_m_vlogs1742 4 жыл бұрын
On second thought, i found two 14.8v 10,000mah batteries, and a 2 to 1 cable men't for doubling miliamp. Will these fit in a mini talon?
@ArxangelRC 4 жыл бұрын
I have no idea what those batteries are! You got a link?
@kywon_m_vlogs1742 4 жыл бұрын
www.amazon.com/dp/B07RFLQT13/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_i_6YhzDbJ5RRDT4
@kywon_m_vlogs1742 4 жыл бұрын
Also, i ment 11.1
@jaradberkman8709 6 жыл бұрын
i wouldn't move your CG back. I think the plane is designed wrong and the stock stabilizer masks it by flying with a crap ton of up trim. I think you need to mechanically give it a bunch of trim. I had this plane, went to Inav from the start. I hated the plane and had to glue it back together a bunch of times. I kept moving the cg back and it was unflyable.
@ArxangelRC 6 жыл бұрын
I guess this remains to be seen! It is far from neutral, and most planes fly just fine there... will try a few positions and will know which one works, and which doesn't! :)
@ansariflightplan5814 5 жыл бұрын
hai u have the pid setup?
@ArxangelRC 5 жыл бұрын
For iNav no... gave up on it a while back after it tried to kill a few of my planes!
@ansariflightplan5814 5 жыл бұрын
ArxangelRC for arduplane? Course i used mini pix now
@ArxangelRC 5 жыл бұрын
You are fresh out of luck! Since I put the Mini Pix in the Dart XL, I flew that plane with the PIDs from the Nano Talon until the other day... but then I did an autotune... so I no longer have the Nano Talon PIDs!! :(
@ansariflightplan5814 5 жыл бұрын
ArxangelRC omg... its ok
@ArxangelRC 5 жыл бұрын
:)
@AbosoluteAltitudes 5 жыл бұрын
How much does your battery pack weigh?
@ArxangelRC 5 жыл бұрын
Just under 200 grams!
@AbosoluteAltitudes 5 жыл бұрын
Do you think this plane could handle a 300g battery? Or would it be too heavy? Was considering running a 6s 3500 lithium ion.
@ArxangelRC 5 жыл бұрын
depends on how much the plane weights without the battery! If you can get it around 630-640 grams... it will still fly OK.
@AbosoluteAltitudes 5 жыл бұрын
ArxangelRC thanks! Just watched your review of the talon GT rebel and I think that will better fit what I’m looking for. I want to try and get about 90 minutes of flight
@ArxangelRC 5 жыл бұрын
It is possible, but the Nano Talon can also do that! :)
@showboatfpv9677 4 жыл бұрын
2:19 Looks like the 1st and 5th cable are in the incorrect order. However, 2:28 at this moment you have the 1st and 5th cable in the correct order. Looks like you switched them and didn't even mention it in the video.
@ArxangelRC 4 жыл бұрын
The connector wiring is identical in both shots!
@kywon_m_vlogs1742 5 жыл бұрын
9.63oz is the weight of a 5000 mah battery that i will soon to order. Will my plane hold that much weight? If yes then this battery promise me 5 hrs of flight!!!!!
@ArxangelRC 5 жыл бұрын
273 grams... what battery is this? How many cells?
@kywon_m_vlogs1742 5 жыл бұрын
2s, will this make my talon crash or will it make it a long range long flytime UAV kit??
@kywon_m_vlogs1742 5 жыл бұрын
Hi, its a 2s battery. Will it make my plane nose heavy? Or will it make it a long range uav kit?
@ArxangelRC 5 жыл бұрын
That is indeed a heavy battery... also 2S... I don't think the plane will even take off at that voltage! 3S is possible, but needs a lighter battery. I fly on 4S and I love it!
@kywon_m_vlogs1742 5 жыл бұрын
So with the same battery but 4s i could fly for up to 5 hrs??
@jzflmr6089 5 жыл бұрын
why go so complicated on small fpv like this
@ArxangelRC 5 жыл бұрын
Well... because it can actually fly for long and go far... so I would prefer to have some RTH functionality! Besides... it is fun, and it is amazing how small these electronics are getting, and what you can fit in a small model!
@kywon_m_vlogs1742 5 жыл бұрын
I thught it allready comes with a flight controller
@ArxangelRC 5 жыл бұрын
There is a stabilizing unit, but it doesn't do much else! :)
@jmp29 6 жыл бұрын
Hi, do you know there is an actual port of Ardupilot on Omnibus f3 pro v2/v3 and revo board ? www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?2784349-Ardupilot-on-OpenPilot-Revolution/page148 .... simple for a well used pilot of arduplane like you....www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?2784349-Ardupilot-on-OpenPilot-Revolution/page1The only thing that miss for now is ability to plug pitot but you didn't seem to use them...
@ArxangelRC 6 жыл бұрын
No, I did not know that!!!! Thanks for letting me know! Awesome... will check it out!
@jmp29 6 жыл бұрын
It's night-ghost, you know this name i'm sure, the minimosd extra revisited called 'minimosd night-ghost' : it's night-ghost himself who do this absolutely amazing port on these board. I'm testing all of of this on the bench and waiting a nano talon to test it but according to my experience of arduplane, I'm nearly sure this will be great on F4 tiny board. Look at that, locked like we love for contemplating the view : www.rcgroups.com/forums/showpost.php?p=38825435&postcount=1804 . You, like me, we know how good arduplane is after an autotune( level 7) without any efforts. It will not be the rolling coaster like... Don't hesitate if need help for wiring/flashing (MP or RC group thread, same username). The good new is evrything is already ready on your Nano Talon ! Cheers
@ArxangelRC 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, I know him! Will read up on this and will try to test it as soon as possible! :) Very interesting development indeed!
@ralphrase3363 5 жыл бұрын
You should breath between sentences. There is no shame to have pauzes between sentences.
@ArxangelRC 5 жыл бұрын
Hahaha, I do breathe... but that gets edited out because it sounds awful! :)
@MarcAntoineBvl 5 жыл бұрын
@@ArxangelRC Ugghhh he's a human... Disgusting
@especialistqap 4 жыл бұрын
Sanyo samsung and LG battery is better than sony
@ArxangelRC 4 жыл бұрын
Depends on the cells! These are high discharge cells and I've been quite happy with their performance!
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