"READ OWNERS MANUAL BEFORE USE" If that's standard on the PAP, that rifle just died for me. I really don't like being called an idiot every time I look at my gun. Especially ridiculous on an AK. Anyway, really nice, detailed video.

Wow this was a very in depth summary which is exactly what I was looking for, in fact more so! Thank you for taking the time to go through it all. It's not quite a WBP Fox but other than the Beryl Rear Trunnion they're identical so I could get a good idea of what to expect from my Fox purchase. Thank you!

Standard AK parts, Standard AK furniture. That's why I own the WBP. One of my favorite guns that I own. Update 8/13/22: Now I have two =)

Amazing comparison! Appreciate the video and your time in making it! Very informative!

Got my ZPAP in like April and...kind of love the thing. If the Jack had been out back then, I might have had a more difficult choice, just for furniture compatibility. But the M70 is just great. Robust thing. A hefty girl, but pleasant to shoot and most of my mags fit pretty tightly- Bulgarian polymer, FAB polymer (required some filing), PSA waffle polymer, and Zastava's polymer bho all fit quite snugly. The Zastava steel and some cheap KCI too.

I subbed immediately after noticing you muted the bolt slam twice on the Croatian mag. Great details and presentation.

the jack is sweet, but the zastava is a wasr killer. its the same price range as a wasr, was MUCH more available during 2020-2021. significantly better quality. and excellent marketing from Zastava USA

He favors the FOX yet his arguement inspired me to buy the ZPAP with the red furniture.

I have both guns. I think the WPB is a little more upscale than the M70. Both nice guns. If I had to carry the gun all day I would go with lighter WBP. I think the M70 looks better and maybe a little more solid construction. I like the battle worn finish M70 Zastava just came out with.

Both beautiful weapons! That tiger grain on the Zastava is beautiful!

Great video,I Like the Jack because it takes standard Ak furniture.I believe you couldn't go wrong with either one in a SHTF scenario.

Ty for making this video. I have a zpap and really want a Jack for the lighter weight.

I got the WBP FOX n the Zastava ZPAP both great AKs I luv AKs period got a few of them I installed ALG trigger a ATI pistol grip n a BD2 muzzle break on all my AKs 😊 zastava is heavier with that 1.5 stamp receiver both great imports 🤙🏽

Thanks for the review! Pretty sure the slant brake on your Jack is non-conforming because it is vertical up at 90 degrees and shouldn't be. Nothing against the WBP Jack as it is only an inexpensive 922r part that was slapped on it upon import, but your impression of the rifle will be a bit better once you either get a better slant brake or use something else (my personal favorite is the Midwest Industries brake).

It’s hard to compare these two. The Zpap was Yugoslavias version of the akm. Yes they’re both in the AK family but one is made commercially and the other is made in a military factory. One is pretty and clean cut and the other is robust and originally, still is, made for war (not that they’d say no to consumer sales) see where I’m going with this? Regardless both are good quality and shoot well it’s all what you want out of the platform 👍

ZPAP, more robust for the price. Heavier Barrel, 1.5mm thick receiver, bulged RPK Trunion. All for 900 to 1100 bucks. Is it heavier, yes but in a good way. Both are good guns but the ZPAP is clearly better. The other is closer tp the newer Romanion builds. Also regardless of what anyone says. The best AK is the Fime VEPR. What is that one? Heavy barrel, 1.5mm reciever, bulged trunion. Only real difference is the furniture compatability. Thats similar to the ZPAP

Thank you for your video !! Its verry detailed and informative .I own a ZPAP M70 and was wondering if the dust cover on the Jack thunderdome is compatable and will fit on the Zpap ?

Great Video , Super good info !!

I'm definitely choosing zpap. It's built like a tank.

ZPAP all the way.

I know they usually come that way but the wood to steel fitting on the jack has so much of gap that a dollar coin would fit in there. It's so ugly. Zpap looks perfect on that aspect.

I wanna see a detailed comparison like this between psa gg5 or ake and one of these

The bigger problem at this time is what you can find. Whether or not they get another weapons ban passed is questionable, but if you want eight one, availability is becoming the issue.

The z pap has the original trigger hammer...no high rise hump for bolt to ride on and hammer the end

Ive owned both and the wbp jack is slighty better in every category. That being said, i use the zpap more. Feels like i can use it as a club if i need to. The correct option here is to own both.

I think both guns are made extremely well. I don't own a Jack but from what I've gathered online it's the newest edition of great AK's to buy on the American market. BUT assuming it's as good as the M70 and as tough. I still got to say Zastava wins due to the ease of takedown alone. The Jack gets credit for accessory compatibility, but I think that's irrelevant, because most people tend to leave their AK's plain jane anyways Even with dealing with an AKM you still got to be careful cause not all AKM parts fit all AKM's. Also, I think your Zastava having so much play is coincidental. Mine does not have that much play with any of my magazines. Even the cheap surplus steel magazines fit pretty solid, are more comparable to what your Jack is doing for me. I think they cut your magazine well a hair wider. I also like to add that the Jack cost about 500 bucks more than the Zastava. So is it worth it. The way I see it, if you're going to spend 1500 bucks on an AK you might as well spend the extra 500 on an arsenal. At least the Zastava you can find for an even thousand-dollar price tag. Just my opinion. I like the WBP too and think it's a great AK but for 1500 bucks it better be.

Without a doubt, my WBP Fox has the best 'action' and finish of any AK I own. It is not the most precise, but it is very good. Zpap's are heavy duty and good too, but I definitely prefer the WBP.

If M70 is heavy go to gym or get a Glock 😂

They are both nice but the gaps between the furniture and the metal on the Jack just bothers me.

I also would take the jack . The ZPAP is a good rifle but I think the jack has more time put into it . Thank you for the nice close up comparison.

where did you buy that pistol grip for the jack??

Very good review very nice rifles and I think I like the jack more but I like folding stocks and poly.

thinking the WBP for me but that m70 is tempting rn

The zpap is blued rifle finish

Go hike / march 25 miles with the AKM style rifle, such as the Jack. And march with the ZPAP you will definitely feel the difference afterwards. Polish Jack AK will be handy in a apocalypse. ZPAP seems to be a great collectors piece and range gun. That’s just my opinion though.

I noticed and it's not a big deal but my m70 was zeroed out of the box, but no dice for the jack. Also maybe a touch more recoil from the jack, I'm sure a better muzzle break would help with that

Thank you this was a very thorough video and provided a lot of detail. I do have a question with the Jack is appears that a lot of the furniture was not fully seated in the frame as you could see ridges around the stock and handguards is that the way it is supposed to be or had you taken them off and just had not fully seated them. I am assuming that is the way it is supposed to be but that seems like a design issue as it looks like areas for water and dirt to enter the receiver.

Very comprehensive review. Can you advise which Handguard gets hotter?

Has Zastava fixed, or addressed their issues with QC. I've seen numerous videos, and pictures of the m70 having cracked recievers, broken bolt carriers, problems with metallurgy, etc. I'm considering getting an m70 in Serbian red, but I'm kind of hesitant now with what I've seen. I'm starting to lean more towards getting a WBP Jack instead.

I know this is not a newer video, but would you choose the M70 or the Jack for approximately $350 more?

Where did u get the polish fat grip?

What parts of a jack are cast vs forged ?

I'm not sure if I would say the zpap BCG is in the raw as it is nickel molybdenum plated

looking to buy my first ak, and right now it seems to be a toss up between the zpap and the jack. the zpap makes more sense price wise, especially given the extra fees for shipping, taxes, and paperwork, as well as compliance work (mag will need to be pinned to 10 and the break will at minimum need to be pinned & welded) but some of the non-standard parts might be an issue later on if I decide I want to customize it, and it seems the build quality is a bit shoddy, not sure if that extra weight is good thing or a bad thing, since my main complaint with all of the other AK's ive looked at in stores is that they feel flimsy like a toy, but who knows maybe thats just a thing with stamped guns and a milled gun would be more to my liking, also could've just been the plastic furniture as well. the jack seems to be built a bit better, but aesthetically isnt as nice in some ways, and tho the price isnt that much higher than the zpap, that still raises the overall cost, plus it has a bayonet lug that would need to be ground off in order to be compliant. also im assuming WBP is a federally registered manufacturer like zastava is as thanks to a new dumbass law passed here in NJ last year, all firearms must have a serial # and it must have been put there by a federally registered maker or it's considered to be a "ghost gun" and illegal. was gonna go with the zpap since I have a yugo sks and that thing is a beauty, but right now I think i'm leaning more toward the jack.

Just bought a nice Jack today. Pricey but it felt the best of all the ones I shouldered.

Great video. To me the jack is PERFECT. But it doesn't justify being 400 more than a wasr 10. In fact the wasr is built in a war factory next to military guns. The zpap on the other hand is priced in between but is yugo pattern. 1.5mm , buldged trunnion, heavy ak47 barrel.

I own both and I agree WBP is the better over all qaulity plus weight reduction. When I say qaulity i mean extra machining not necessarily functionality. I would say Jack wins in my book just Weigh reduction alone.

I have the Jack and love it but that ZPAP looks nice and I need to get one. The advantage I would give to the Jack over the ZPAP is the Jack has that cool Polish logo on the side.

Aside from showing you the last round has been ejected, what is the purpose of the bolt hold open considering the bolt slides back into place as soon as the magazine is removed? Educate me.

You left out a very important fact , ( prices ) I’m pretty sure the Jack is several hundred more than the M70 . Budget is a big determining fact for a lot of people when buying . When I bought my ZPAP , you couldn’t find a Jack anywhere , another thing you forgot to mention while talking about the fire control parts was the fact of a Sheppard’s hook v’s a retainer plate on the guns . At the time I purchased my gun , if theJack was available I would have bought one . For the price , I think my ZPAP is a great gun , but I would prefer the lighter gun , & the fact that you can change out furniture so easy , but unless I sold my ZPAP to buy a Jack , I’ll just have to stick with what I have . With that said , I did take my ZPAP AK47 & my Palmetto 105 AK74 to the range yesterday & remembered that , I love shooting my ZPAP

Curious as to why you didn't go into more detail on the ZPAP's dust cover button release. Very easy to reinstall the cover with this feature. By the way, are you using a shepards hook or something like a Krebs retaining plate for the axis pins? Nice review on both. Palm mags with steel lugs are the bomb but don't expect them to fit into Arsenal milled receivers. Word of advice for new ZPAP owners....make sure to Loktite the long bolt that secures the stock to the rear trunnion. They're known to wobble loose if not Loktited.

Both works good. But Polich guns have really good quality

I’d pick the Zpap any day you can tell just by looking at it that it’s a better built rifle I have no doubt the jack can handle whatever you throw at it too but there’s just something about that robustness from the heavier barrel gas block and sight post and bulged trunnion

I own both and I can say that both rifles are great and will not give you problems and will do everything you ask of them. Although if I had to choose I would go with the Jack because it’s lighter and I find the palm swells more comfortable in my hand.

I love my m70... damn near a perfect AKM...but the WBP Jack is just as nice, maybe a little nicer.

Zpap by far superior with the 1.5 steel . Very heavy duty

I own both the jack is a better gun to me. But hey everyone has their own opinion on it.

Zesty Boys will get mad... but I have a mini jack and it's my favorite compared to my ARs and other toys

Jack cost about 500 to 600 more in my area now.

Perfect you have the only 2 oil/cleaning products worth using ballistol and Slip2000

The M70 (& zpap m70) has the ability to eject a chambered round while the selector is in the safe position. With the Akm (& jack akm) you have to take it off safe to eject a chambered round.

Zpap all day

For My first ak i went with the jack.

The Jack has a nickle coated bolt carrier, not raw.

The Yugo can eject a chambered round when the safety is on. Probably explains the shorter safety selector.

Second!!

There is only Zastava.

Wbp has made statements there not doin high numbers to get better quality were zastava is pumping them out without bayo lugs and grenade sights and raw metal in places jack with no rail all day 💯💪

"read owner's manual before use"? Ain't nobody got time for that.

I love any ak47

ZPAP ALL DAY

You can totally tell that your a huge fan boy of the Jack, you were saying that every single thing about the jack was better, and that's not the case, like with the mags and bolt hold open etc, I like the jack but the zpap is equally as good and even better in some areas. Good thorough review but I feel it is quite biased in favor of the jack.

I'll get my Jack in 2 months, can't really wait to get it

Zpap

If you can’t Carry the m70 it means you just need to lift some weights

I don't get the idea on the mags wiggling. My thought process while fighting in the jungles and mountains, rain or shine, the firearm must shoot regardless the pros and cons. I don't have the luxury of time to admire the looks. I was 110 lbs. carrying a M1 Carbine or a Garand and a typewritten. We don't have laptops during those times to right manifestos. I ordered a polymer ZPAPM90 just waiting to be delivered. Wood Furnitures are good/classic, but with my experience I have to adapt the rotten wood in my rifle.

ZPAP M70 is my next rifle purchase. Heavier build wins every day. 😎👌

Go Jack go

The front sight block on the AKM is, well AKM . On the Serb it’s AK47.. if they would have left the notches on the bottom you could have used an ak47 bayonet. The Jack gas block is standard AKM and the Serb uses an ak47 gas block… edit: 10:54 the AKM bayonet locks on the gas block, the AK47 does not. The bayonet latches on the bottom of the the front sight block on the type 2 and 3 AK47’s. The type 1 didn’t get a bayonet.

That "READ OWNERS MANUAL BEFORE USE" stamped into the side of the receiver in big billboard font just kills the Zastava for me. I would've bought one if it wasn't for that. Real shame.

Let me get this straight! The jack looks better but the zpap shoots better, is built heavy duty with 1.5 mill. Receiver and has a bulge trunion , yet you picked the jack? Which has none of those features!

Wait after reviewing this video...the buttstock on the jack is not seated fully .nor the end plate....the z pap is blued .the jack is painted .just some things I noticed

First 😁

I got both. Every single muzzle device will not line up with the notches on the aftermarket muzzle devices. Gotta file them down and it's a massive PITA. to get the muzzle devices tight.

Pap all day

The zpap is the absolutely superior ak.

That looks like a wbp fox instead of a jack

The stock to receiver fitment of the Jack sucks compared to the Zastava. Big ugly gap between wood and receiver. The front sight base of the Zastava should be far better centered up like the Jack is. That sucks, unless one elects to run an optic. The thicker heavier more steeply curved charging handle of the Zastava is a plus over the Jack charging handle. I prefer the double hook trigger of the Zastava to the single hook of the Jack. Either rifle would be a great choice based on personal preferences.

I like both a lot but prefer the pap

The Jack is very similar to Century wasr cheaply made and overpriced nothing is wrong with the Zpap it seems like you were being very bias because the Jack is your favorite. Everything that you compared was similar with no difference both great guns only difference is weight, hand guard length, width of the receivers and bayonet lug

jack all day long, zastava is junk

The pap in opinion is a shit tier AKM. But it was priced right in that range with AK novices though they were getting a deal. There’s almost no after market parts compatibility. And the fit and finish belongs to the 90’s as far as quality. The bulged trunnion offers nothing besides unneeded weight. The irregular furniture is a constant hassle. Had the PAP owners showed a bit of self control they could’ve gotten a better rifle in the Jack or Fox. Many of them will walk away thinking all AK’s are as equally as shitty as their pap.

After owning many ak,s including several m70 s when purchasing it's best if you have a few to choose from. Alot of quality issues is due to the armorer that actually assembled the rifle at the factory. If you check a batch of brand new rifles same manufacturer you'll find that the quality varies. Always tear down an ak when purchasing and inspect if they have 3 for sale inspect all 3 you'll see a difference between builds. Obviously pick the best one

The WBP Jack blows the Zpap out of the water. The finishing on the materials alone are much higher quality. Not to mention the FB Radom chrome lined barrel. The worst thing about the Zpap "Read owners manual before operating" stamped on the side 😂

jack. handguard norinco

Who gives a shit about aftermarket upgrades on an Ak? The only thing is I am older and heavier sucks for me. Actually, the WMP is only a couple hundred more if you get it on sale. I’ve decided on the m70 Magpul version. $999 because trying to figure out what a AR to buy It’s just been too confusin. so my first battle rifle will be the zatava pushka 🫡🇺🇸