regarding interoperability: the quest OS is derived from the the android OD & is from the same family as the linux OS, so they can achieve interoperability in that direction pretty fast if they want to

Same reason as why we always disable Bloom and Motion blur in games It's just much more satisfying and stimulating when there's a sharp, oversaturated image Infront of our eyes

​@@shuttzi9878And film grain.

But how are you going to run Windows programs on Android with the quest runs on the Vision Pro can in theory run MacOS Apps IPad Apps and iPhone Apps

Like Steam is running windows games on Steam Deck.

The infinitely better is a really personal opinion.. for me it's laughabke when the 3rd gen still can't play 3D movies.. you only can watch 2D movie with stereo audio, what is the same with any monitor... but the Vision Pro already can play the 4K 3D Avatar movie with 7.1 sounds from Disney+... better resolution, better (more) dimension, better sounds.. those are not things what the infinetly worst device should do (and it's even the 1st gen Vision Pro is able to do this right after the release, but Quest 3 still can't after years...) Yes Quest has more games , but only just now, check the ratio again after half a year or one year later... Btw Quest is limited to 3 screen, Vision Pro not limited, and even gamers sometimes need more than just 3 screen.. (1 for the game, 1 for discord for example, 1 for background music playing and you basically over, you can't do anything else.. if you get a file on discord you can't even open the file manager because that is the 4th windows, and you are limited to 3 windows.. And the windows handling also superior in Vision Pro compared to Quest.. if you open a Window at home, put it somewhere, and you can even leave the house, go out for a few hours and when you go back the Window still on the same position where you left.. ok it's not realistic to leave the house, but if it works fine even than, if you just go to grab some food/drink or toilet break etc, that will also work fine...

Microsoft has little incentive to work with Meta, since they have their own AR device. Hollolens allows people to snap Windows programs to any wall or point in space they choose, just like the Vision Pro does, and it has been doing it for the past 8 years. It also has actually see-through screens. And funnily enough the base model costs exactly $3500, which MS deemed too expensive for consumers so it's only sold for industry and education. But now that Apple sells a similar device, it's likely we'll see a consumer version of the Hollolens 3.

That's my take on this as well. AVP is the technically superior device, but MQ3 is the 'better' product for most people. We can re-evaluate once the non pro vision comes out, but by then, Meta may have fired back at apple with a better Meta Quest.

Then don't

ok boomer

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The future is now old man!

He is when he talks about VR, which is clearly his passion project. You gotta remember this dude is just some nerd that became super famous. I can totally understand someone like that being stilted in the media, in front of cameras and politicians, but totally different when they just talk tech in a room

But how will they compete with Apples M series chip like the M2/M3 and with no Play Store they will never run Android phone Apps or they few Android tablet apps that are out there

You forget that the user experience that Apple has implemented can’t be matched by meta. 5000 patents, if they try to copy guess what it is time to take them to court.

​@@lesleyhaan116wdym how? The X Elite chip(PC-Grade ARM Chip) has the same performance as the M2 while drawing less power and the upcoming 8 Gen 4 which is meant for smartphones draws EVEN less power while already being 2.5x times more powerful than the Chip used in the Quest 3 (just like how it was with Quest 2>3) and having 1.4x better GPU compared to the M2 We already have the tech, it's the niche that VR is atm that is limiting the adaptation

Plus you can actually side load the Play store on the Quest and play mobile games if you want to (It only makes sense if the game has Controller support tho)

@@shuttzi9878 but will normal people do this you could side load the Play Store on blackberry OS 10 phone and normal people did still not buy blackberry phones

Jack of all

Google doesn’t discriminate

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Ye

Doesn’t have a keyboard

Or Steve Jobs making fun of big smartphones

​@@Simsationxl u know u can attach a keyboard right...

Not really.. they are almost trying to achieve the same thing

that interview was so desperate

They wont nail the AR experience. Fuckerberg just does not have the mind and leadership vision. He can only copy or buy out promising companies. Not develop anything from scratch.

Eh, I'm sure there exist some objective truths; especially in the tech industry, where drawing direct comparisons (512 GB of storage is more than 256 GB; 16 GB RAM is more performant than 8 GB RAM; etc.) are quite easy. One example I can think of right now, is how Apple still includes 8 GB of ram on $1600 Macbook Pro models. This is objectively a bad aspect, due to how it's a factor in Apple's price ladder marketing strategy, which is anti-consumer. Regardless of an individual's personal circumstances, then, (such as being rich, or never using more than 8 GB of RAM) this fact does not go away. (Besides, a person using less than 8GB of RAM would not require the newest $1600 Apple machines, and a rich person can still make money-conscious decisions.)

The Vision Pro is the first version, give it a break, it is priced for the business market. In the next few years you will see Apple will solve all the current problems. The price will come down as well.

People also can get used to things. Like carrying 240gram with big screen iPhone. Headset can be middle ground between smartphone and laptop.

they still might be motivated to do this if search is becoming chat/AI generated also business customers SSO/Edge on their desktop + market size (450M Europeans)

apple doesn’t even want VR games on Vision Pro right now…

Why is this not a top comment yet? 😂😂😂

@@albertnewtonify because you're in the comments section of a tech channel, and people who hate tech are in the woods building a cabin instead of here

Not true, a lot of people like the safari browser on their PC. Nobody uses Microsoft Edge, so there are a considerable number of 3rd party browsers with varying popularity

@@fady02 I was trying to make sense of why Safari was getting regulated but iMessage wasn't.

Safari is the only browser you can use on iOS or iPadOS (all the other browsers are forced to run the same engine as safari) and meets EU's market threshold requirements, so does iMessage according to their original case file from september but Apple managed to get a rebuttal on it in further investigation, the public text of the decision is not yet available so we'll know their reasoning in a few days.

​Not everyone who has an iphone (in the eu) is using it. We have 3 iPhones but we rather use WA.​ At least i think thats how it works, dont quote me on that.@@REAL-UNKNOWN-SHINOBI