ZWO Seestar S50: YOUR Questions ANSWERED! Does this smart telescope cheat?

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10 ай бұрын

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Timestamps
00:00 Introduction
01:45 Fake images?
04:03 Is it a toy?
06:22 Can it deal with dew?
07:10 File management
07:58 Dithering & Stacking Overhead
09:25 Individual Subframes
11:00 Equatorial mode
13:10 Third party filters
15:11 Wind Resistance
16:00 Case Dimensions
16:37 Conclusion & Bonus questions

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@CuivTheLazyGeek 10 ай бұрын

@anthonysuarez7416 10 ай бұрын

Great follow up video review. If I use one of your (above) links to purchase one, will the company know I bought it through your channel?

@CuivTheLazyGeek 10 ай бұрын

@@anthonysuarez7416 Yes they would, and the I would get a small kickback (but only if you have cookies enabled!). You can bypass that by disabling cookies or just avoiding my links :)

@RWBHere 6 ай бұрын

Thanks Cuiv. This is looking like a perfect little telescope to put into the boot of a car when going on vacation. How robust is it? Can it withstand less than delicate handling, or rough terrain, during transport?

@copasetic1 6 ай бұрын

My experience has been that folks often use the label “toy” to diminish things that aren’t to their taste because it makes them feel better, in contrast, about their activities. If someone is able to use something like the Seestar to make photos that make them happy, it’s a tool that is as serious as its user, and it’s a simple kindness to just respect that perspective.

@gregerianne3880 10 ай бұрын

Very nice review of the issues people have raised about the SeeStar S50, Cuiv! I think the folks who bash the unit as being a toy are forgetting the intended audience. I can't even imagine how much this would have brought the wonders of the night sky to me as a child! I would venture to say that something like this that sparks the imagination of a child (or young adult!) can even change the path they take in life. A "Tool Of Your" (TOY) imagination. I had one ordered but my wife thought my granddaughters were too young yet. 🙄 Yeah, but what about me? 🤣

@CuivTheLazyGeek 10 ай бұрын

Greg I love your "Tool Of Your" Imagination acronym, well said!!

@keithhanssen7413 10 ай бұрын

I can see more of this technology becoming available in time for larger telescopes, which is a good time saving/stress relieving thing.

@CuivTheLazyGeek 10 ай бұрын

Enjoy Japan! No specific shop recommendations unfortunately...

@tomb504dog Ай бұрын

Love the style of your videos and how your enthusiastic personality shines through. Ordered mine and will be observing from Maine, USA.

@CuivTheLazyGeek Ай бұрын

Awesome! Enjoy it!

@elythomaslumber 10 ай бұрын

Got mine today 10:30AM in Germany! Did some FW updates as well as doing pictures from sun and nearby houses. Great Auto-Fokus and Sun-Tracking option. Working absolutly great!!!

@CuivTheLazyGeek 10 ай бұрын

Congrats on getting yours!! I think a lot of people are jealous! Glad it's working well for you :)

@3sCaptAwesome 10 ай бұрын

Would you mind sharing where you bought yours from?

@elythomaslumber 10 ай бұрын

@@3sCaptAwesome yes, directly from ZWO in China in April

@3sCaptAwesome 10 ай бұрын

@@elythomaslumber , thank you and enjoy your new tech!

@suewade3970 4 ай бұрын

Can you see Saturn clearly?

@cmahar3 10 ай бұрын

It makes sense that the built in filter is optimized already. It may take a while for the community to figure out which filters will produce the biggest gains.

@Ed-hz2um 5 ай бұрын

Great answers to some good questions! Nice to hear all this from an experienced astrophotographer. Many of these tend to bash a product like this, but it's a great (and affordable) entry into the hobby. Maybe some day. we'll dive deeper with better equipment, but for a beginner, this seems like an ideal tool to just go out and explore. We ordered one today.

@lukomatico 10 ай бұрын

Great video Cuiv! - Seems like the LP filter segment matches up well with what we were talking about the other day, interesting! 😀 Can't wait to see more!

@rbrickproductions123 10 ай бұрын

I love seeing these smart telescopes. I love tinkering with my setup, and want to build it out, but it weighs like 60lbs! There are nights where i want to image something i can’t see from my balcony but don’t want to bring down my setup. Between harmonic drive mounts and these affordable smart telescopes i think this will drive my passion and many others up. It’s a very exciting time to be an astronomer and i love it

@drawntoview 6 ай бұрын

So glad I found this video! I was pretty much ready to go forward with this one but I did have a nagging concern that it might simply be using stored image data to Overlay the pictures the camera was taking. So glad you helped to spell that idea. Many thanks

@aw7425 10 ай бұрын

Super info, I have a vespera and did pre order the seestar, as you can never have enough telescopes. Convinced 3 others to order the seestar. We need more astronomy outreach. Keep up the great work

@CuivTheLazyGeek 10 ай бұрын

Hahaha yes never can have enough telescopes, how do you like the Vespera?

@ADVJunkie 8 ай бұрын

Can’t wait to get mine

@shauncraven7385 10 ай бұрын

A comprehensive and helpful review, as always - Thank you

@CuivTheLazyGeek 10 ай бұрын

Thank you!

@AntonioPena1 10 ай бұрын

Hello Cuiv, thanks for your second review, I ordered mine for long time but they are on back order, they sent it does to KZfaqrs like you, one day can use it. Thanks for sharing

@rtpman1953 10 ай бұрын

Thanks Cuiv. I can see me getting this for EAA at some of our club's observing session.

@GRILL332 10 ай бұрын

Wow what a great video!! We have been discussing this in our astronomy club. The equatorial mount and filter questions were some our members also thought about. We also wanted to be able to get the files for using pix insite on them.

@CuivTheLazyGeek 10 ай бұрын

Glad I was able to answer some questions! And apparently we'll be able to stack in PixInsight in the end, I'm looking forward to this! :)

@roberto7938 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for the video. As always, great job 👍

@Alpha5119 10 ай бұрын

I just order it on last friday after i ran into your first testing of the scope. I watched of few other reviews and had to get it. Cant wait to get it.

@CuivTheLazyGeek 10 ай бұрын

I hope you get it soon!

@Alpha5119 10 ай бұрын

@@CuivTheLazyGeek thanks

@WilliFromEarth 10 ай бұрын

Thank you for answering all of my unposted questions 😊 !!! This is extremely helpful!

@CuivTheLazyGeek 10 ай бұрын

My pleasure!

@ChristianPsencik 10 ай бұрын

Awesome man, I just got mine too here in TX. Testing it out tonight!

@user-yk7yv8rb5i 6 ай бұрын

it's not a toy I have been doing astronomy since 1966 this is great I'm going to get one❤

@russwoodward8251 9 ай бұрын

Really good. Thanks!

@CuivTheLazyGeek 9 ай бұрын

Thank you!

@stevenmartell9652 2 ай бұрын

I am excited for the opportunity this provides for our middle and high school students that want to see these DSOs they see on the web, but wouldn’t get to actually see even in our NexStar8SE. Anything that gets my students more interested in the astronomy, the photography, the electronics, the software, etc. is a welcome addition to my educational toolbox.

@farab4391 9 ай бұрын

Thank you for all the information. They've done SUCH a good job with this telescope that people are confused, that's why they're asking questions like "are the pictures real" and "is it a toy". For those people who think a £500+ telescope is a toy, please wait until closer to Xmas to order one for your kid, because I'd like to get hold of some stock first.

@CuivTheLazyGeek 9 ай бұрын

You're absolutely right! And good strategy to get yours asap lol

@JeffreyMcPheeters 10 ай бұрын

I've been waiting for something like this for travel work. It's really great for travel to cities because we don't have to worry about polar alignment when our balcony has a good view of the southern sky but consequently, Polaris is blocked by the building.

@CuivTheLazyGeek 10 ай бұрын

Totally agree!

@marvinwhisman3333 10 ай бұрын

Yet another great video. Just ordered mine. Hoping I get it before Christmas.

@CuivTheLazyGeek 10 ай бұрын

Thanks Marvin! I hope you do get it by Christmas, this thing is in high demand...

@marvinwhisman3333 7 ай бұрын

Just found out mine shipped. Yeah. Christmas came early.

@pattimaclaughlin8059 6 ай бұрын

An important video, thank you! I had the thought that maybe these photos were fake. But I guess I didn’t believe that because I ordered one last week!!! I have some physical issues right now so this will let me continue my love and work on the galaxies and nebulae!!!

@Xahes 10 ай бұрын

I'm thinking more and more about getting one of those smart telescopes. Living in the city, with limited space in my flat and no car, I think this is the best choice for me. Now I have to choose which one

@ssrattus 10 ай бұрын

Thanks Cuiv!

@CuivTheLazyGeek 10 ай бұрын

My pleasure!

@jbg9866 8 ай бұрын

Very cool little scope! I probably would have bought this last year if available. I went with a 72mm refractor, eqm35 mount and Zwo mini, 533mcpro, EAF. Zwo makes it easy to stack, and it's the feature I use the most. I can see how it's hard to believe because of how unreal the night sky actually is. Adding L enhance filters improved this further in moderately light polluted city.

@CuivTheLazyGeek 8 ай бұрын

Sounds great!

@JRodPhotoArt 10 ай бұрын

Well done, lots of great information!

@CuivTheLazyGeek 10 ай бұрын

Thank you!

@claudiotenreiro3111 10 ай бұрын

Hi Cuiv, yes, I believe that someone was able to download individual images and, later use DSS to stack them to feed in Siril for analysis post processing. As you said, it is a nice gear to take with you anywhere without major problem, Thanks for your analysis on the S50 (and many other ones you have done as well). Oh, I forgot, it would be interesting to know bluetooth capability.

@CuivTheLazyGeek 10 ай бұрын

That's awesome! For now BT seems to be used to detect whether the telescope is available for connection, but not much more (could be different on iOS)

@richardkellar9259 6 ай бұрын

LOVE my Seestar so far. LUNAR image was AMAZING. Still struggling with nebula and Galaxies! I am CONFIDENT it is MY inexperience!

@deanblackwell2090 10 ай бұрын

I have a nice 6" SCT already but yes I did just order the SeeStar - Its a completely different thing for a different purpose and its going to be so easy to put in a back pack and take anywhere

@CuivTheLazyGeek 10 ай бұрын

Exactly!

@heavyjohnny 10 ай бұрын

I cant wait to see some images from it!

@CuivTheLazyGeek 10 ай бұрын

There are some in the previous video, but I'll take more once I get more clear skies!

@heavyjohnny 10 ай бұрын

@@CuivTheLazyGeek I’m curious to see what framing is going to be like with a fixed sensor. Will something like Andromina need to be shot as a mosaic and will this even soot a mosaic. I can’t wait to see what you put together

@davehudson5589 10 ай бұрын

Excellent video!!! One more question you can ask ZWO is when are these shipping!! The community is waiting eagerly to get our hands on these and they keep delaying shipping!!! Can’t wait to get mine!! Been waiting years for this!!

@majesticreefs 10 ай бұрын

Cuiv, you have me convinced I am getting one.

@CuivTheLazyGeek 10 ай бұрын

Enjoy it (once you get it, the demand seems high!)

@majesticreefs 10 ай бұрын

@@CuivTheLazyGeek I placed the order direct from ZWO website, hope to get it soon.

@bronte65 9 ай бұрын

Hi there! Love your channel - the energy you bring is infectious. At last, a good infection! On the basis of your first Seestar review I nipped over to a well respected and trusted Astro kit supplier and placed my 25% deposit on my very own Seestar. I’m excited to receive it but it will be a bit of a wait. I live in Australia and shipping is not expected to commence before 30 November. Maybe I will get a really cool Christmas present. I have friends who have been amateur astronomers for years and years but I’m getting too old to acquire their level of knowledge however willing they are to share. For me, this is a fantastic option and my knowledgeable friends are very supportive of my decision especially from the Seestar’s specifications. I must thank you for helping me find a great way to add an excellent hobby at the ideal time of my life. It means a lot. I too am a geek, lazy as they come, thus your reviews really spoke to me. I’ve liked and subscribed but wild horses couldn’t make turn on the bell. Sorry. Hehe. You keep producing videos and I’ll keep watching and sharing them. All the very best to you and yours, and thank you again. 😊

@CuivTheLazyGeek 9 ай бұрын

Thanks so much for this feedback, I hope you do get it by Christmas!!

@nonbiz1520 9 ай бұрын

I remember using a telescope camera motor my Dad made in the ‘60’s as a kid. Loved it and would like to get one for the kids in the family, but I honestly don’t know if they would be interested for more than one minute before going back to their phone! I’d use it anyway.

@developercm 3 ай бұрын

I love this scope and don't consider it to be a toy. Its small, compact, and portable, and can be used as a tool for scientific purposes, imaging, and educational purposes. Its small and portable, compared to my bigger rigs which take a lot of effort to take to the field (Heavy tripod and mount head, must bring power to the field, counterweights, etc. With this one, just grab it and go, no long setup or polar alignment or heavy lifting.

@MegaArsa75 10 ай бұрын

Great video,thank you very much 😊

@CuivTheLazyGeek 10 ай бұрын

You're welcome ;)

@realmcerono 10 ай бұрын

There is a dual NB filter in the production unit they say! EDIT: I get it now! the Lightpollution Filter IS the Dualband Filter (ZWO Website shows it).

@CuivTheLazyGeek 10 ай бұрын

Oh wow, thanks for the info, this is really good to know, I didn't realize that! It makes the low price of the telescope even more mystifying... how are they making any profit??

@originalbadboy32 10 ай бұрын

@@CuivTheLazyGeekBecause it's made in China by a 12 year old. 😢

@scidav87 10 ай бұрын

Great video! Thank you

@CuivTheLazyGeek 10 ай бұрын

You are welcome!

@fnersch3367 9 ай бұрын

The only non-toy telescope I ever used was the 100" telescope at Mt Wilson Observatory. I saw 37 rings on Saturn with it. This telescope ushered in modern astronomy in 1917 (Edwin Hubble used it). The scope is still in pristine condition after 106 years.

@KingLoopie1 10 ай бұрын

Really looking hard at one of these 'all in one' setups due to my own limited time and energy. I wish it had an 80mm triplet or quad objective even though it would be a bit heavier/bulkier to transport. (everything in astrophotography seems to get exponentially heavier and more expensive as you go up in aperture). But on the other hand, it's pretty darn impressive for the current '50mm craze'! What a time we live in!! 🎶🍰🎁🎉😜

@CuivTheLazyGeek 10 ай бұрын

Yes indeed!

@williwx8314 10 ай бұрын

这个产品只是第一个版本，是一个尝试，后面应该还会有更多型号可供选择

@swnovanovice 9 ай бұрын

Really appreciate your reviews of S50 and Dwarf II, Cuiv - Thank You! After watching your in-depth Dwarf II coverage, I acquired this portable scope for travel to NZ. I have, however, experienced some serious 'banding' issues with stacking my Dwarf II subs (using WBPP) and the stacked/calibrated and cosmetically corrected image, after further processing in PI amplified this banding and substandard final images resulted. Perhaps this banding is 'walking noise' resulting from stacking too many Dwarf II short exposures with fixed noise...?? As your S50 images do not seem to display any significant banding (per above description) - perhaps because the S50 provides effective dithering and better fixed noise dispersion... I have decided to order a S50 in hopes of generating RAW stacked (and eventually, subs) with improved SNR and the opportunity to generate improved final images using PI tools. Thanks again, Cuiv... please keep your information pipeline flowing... and advice regarding improved astro-imaging outcomes.

@user-yd1zl1tv8x 10 ай бұрын

3:42 settles it. I trust your videos. We all do. Thanks for posting!

@CuivTheLazyGeek 10 ай бұрын

Thank you:)

@MichaelLaferriere 3 ай бұрын

@9:00 It seems that it could handle the stacking and dithering while taking the next light frame. The computer that does the stacking inside of the camera is likely mostly idle while taking a light frame. This sounds like something could be fixed with an update and some process improvement. The same with not being able to see and select images for the stack. It would be a bit a bit of work for the photographer to go through and choose which images to use, but this could likely salvage an image with some bad light frames, clouds, planes, a car driving by etc. Once they tweak the firmware both of these should be non issues. Nice review!

@PeteMarshall-tp3ih 10 ай бұрын

Can't wait to get mine so I can show my daughter the beautiful night sky

@KismaBlakeA55 10 ай бұрын

The only way you can prove that this is not a toy is to get daily photos of the Comet Nishimura (c/2023 P1) This comet was discovered by an amateur astronomer, Hideo Nishimura on August 11th! The comet is now in the constellation Leo and located 86 million miles away and will make its closest approach to Earth on September 13th. Many people have already taken photos of it, but they are all different because the comet is moving and changing the shape of its tail constantly. So, you do it and show your subscribers what image this incredible telescope of yours get.

@djregan9121 10 ай бұрын

I was having the same thought @vyaschady. I am hoping Cuiv (or another someone who has 'early access' to the S50) will have a chance to try to shoot Nishimura.

@lastnovicewins 8 ай бұрын

It is definitely fake images. It is not downloaded directly from the internet. It uses AI to enhance its poor photos and we all know where AI gets its image from. Yes, it is sneaky. Computational photography. How can so many people get fooled by this!!!

@rossbusher4412 7 ай бұрын

Or take transect photos of the ISS across the moon or sun.

@OddballsHobbyChannel 10 ай бұрын

The fast set up combined with the portability is one of the biggest attractions for me. How many times didn't the weatherforecast predict bad weather only for me to gaze outside to see a clear sky. For those moments this thing would be ideal. I won't buy it now as I have my holiday first (To Japan, if you have any shop recommendations in Tokyo which are nice to just walk into and gaze around please tell me.) but for Christmas this is definetly on the short list.

@BhutJolokias 8 ай бұрын

I'm sure some people bash it because they spend 10x the amount and don't get images as good as the Seestar. I have a 8" EdgeHD I use for planetary photography. I don't wish to spend as much to delve into deep sky, so I ordered a Seestar to get my feet wet. Looking forward to it's delivery.

@CuivTheLazyGeek 8 ай бұрын

It's definitely a solid entry point to deep sky, I hope you enjoy it!

@testboga5991 2 ай бұрын

For the price, this thing is a must buy for every serious astronomer as well as an interesting buy for regular consumers. Gatekeeping is ridiculous. Nobody is forced to use it and it's cheap enough for everybody.

@CuivTheLazyGeek 2 ай бұрын

I agree - it's just a fun scope!

@aradani3 10 ай бұрын

Hi Cuiv, Cool video, I think you should make some more Q&A videos, because many of the action in this channel is in the comments! Yesterday in an Astronomy group in FB, someone (new to astronomy) asked if there is a cheap telescope they could buy , take to a dark place, and without any knowledge just press a button and look though the eyepiece and see something. Push Here Dummy style. The answer they got is: "there is nothing like that, you should join some club or star party and ..." - which BTW is a very good advice But I said: hey there are new tools that do just that!! These are definitely tools! As you said FUN and TOOLS!

@CuivTheLazyGeek 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for stepping in haha :) There are indeed such toys/tools!

@cosmicinsane516 3 ай бұрын

These new smart scopes are definitely on my list of stuff to get. Way way more convenient than my Newtonian on a EQ mount. I’d use one of these 10 times more just because of the simplicity.

@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 ай бұрын

Exactly - they have their shortcomings of course but the convenience...

@Ic37r011 9 ай бұрын

Ordered in September or August. Still on backorder.

@MaxFromSydney1 3 ай бұрын

With the relatively narrow Field of View, I would like to buy this if ZWO could in future bundle some software to mosaic several adjacent stacked images (eg. 2x2 or 3x2 would be brilliant). I would pay a bit more than the current price if this feature could be included, to overcome the narrow FOV for wider views. I guess the following would also help to optimise mosaic images: Equatorial mode operating off a static polar aligned wedge mount would also be great, to eliminate the field rotation artifacts. Gear like this Seestar S50 make it an exciting time to be looking to play at the entry level end of astrophotography.

@davidtotten3042 10 ай бұрын

Yes, it’s a toy. Just like my $6000.00 dollar Lunt is, and all my other scopes and cameras are. The only difference is this toy is accessible to kids as well adults where the more expensive ones really aren’t. This is going to be great for outreach.

@Audfile 7 ай бұрын

If you could reach through a portal and let Copernicus use it for a night, would he call it a toy? No he'd probably call it the best scope in the world. Perspective.

@davidtotten3042 7 ай бұрын

If Copernicus could figure out what it was for, then he would probably think it was wonderful because it would be the first scope he ever saw. Copernicus died in 1543 and the telescope was allegedly created in 1608 by Hans Lippershey (and he filed a patent for the telescope). The James Webb telescope in 480 years will be of no scientific use to civilization. But it would make a hell of a toy! So yeah, perspective.

@53glowe 6 ай бұрын

There is always someone in the comments section that is self opinionated and desperate to have the final say...you must be terrific at parties at making new friends, if you actually get invited that is 🤔

@davidtotten3042 6 ай бұрын

@@53glowe oh did I hurt your feelings? So sad.

@copasetic1 6 ай бұрын

@@davidtotten3042 well, you sure did prove him right.

@SciMajor1 5 ай бұрын

It's been proven many times that one doesn't need a giant light bucket on a super expensive equatorial mount to get great results. Even my phone camera, which has the tiniest of lenses can produce impressive results, under the right conditions and while cherry picking a suitable target, simply while laying screen down on a table (10 second timer delay to take picture).

@thecarbonprop 10 ай бұрын

Lots of great questions answered. I’m on preorder here in Canada. I made the purchase because of your first video. I’m new to astrophotography and want something easy to get me going so I can learn and see if maybe investing in a larger rig might be an option for me in the future. I appreciate you taking the time to make this content. I’m hoping my daughter will take an interest in it as well and maybe ignite the spark.

@jvanier 10 ай бұрын

Good day. Just ordered mine too for similar reasons. i'm in Canada and i like the simple fact that i can look at sky objects while in my heated house! I'll be 60 next year and staying out for hours with a 70lbs rig that i have to setup every "goog" night is no longer part of the fun. Thanks Cuiv!

@thecarbonprop 10 ай бұрын

@@jvanier this is a really good point. Having it sit out on the lawn while I’m inside is a great selling point. I wonder if ZWO will update the temperature range at all. Currently I think the lowest is 0 degrees. I know most winter nights that will be spectacular for viewing will be significantly colder.

@CuivTheLazyGeek 10 ай бұрын

Here's hoping the spark does get ignited, it really is a good tool for that!

@Sembazuru 9 ай бұрын

When connected to a computer via USB-C cable, A) will it charge from the computer if the computer's USB-C port supports that mode? B) Can you use the telescope normally while connected to a computer? If yes to both, I could see running this off of a computer all/most of the night. And, especially, if the raw 10s exposures are available being able to download and delete from the telescope the previous staking observation while running a stacking observation on either the same or a different object. BTW, what is the USB speed? USB-3 or only USB-2?

@mercury7 10 ай бұрын

Your experience testing the external filter makes me think there may be something to the concern that the internal ir/cut filter is blocking important bands…. That’s really the only reason I can think of

@MrMrduke1975 7 ай бұрын

I can understand why people’s first reaction would be to bash it and call it a toy. If I have been doing this for a long time, spent 1,000s of dollars. I’d be kind of angry too lol. But that’s the march of technology. As well as these have been reported to be selling, other companies are going to start making their versions and it will just get better. I love that you don’t have all of those separate cords and moving parts. It’s an all in one unit.

@waskus 7 ай бұрын

I really want one of these. Its like my 2. 3d printer.. Its a bambu lab, no fiddeling, like my first 3d printer.. It just auto almost everything, so press and print. Thats what I want from my 1. Telescope, press and watch.

@olafbaeyens8955 7 ай бұрын

I live in an apartment and up till now I had to wait until the stars passes my bedroom window. I have about 40 degree wide view. But this telescope it is so small that I can put it on my windowsill I suddenly have now a 120 degree view. And it makes also possible to put at the other side on my kitchen windowsill having an additional 45 degree view without the buildings. There is no polar alignment needed, just rotate a few times with calibration on and off you go. Setup is a few minutes.

@olafbaeyens8955 7 ай бұрын

I did have connection issues through the network but today a firmware update happened v1.91 and the connection issues seems to be gone. The Compas mode in SkyAtlas behaves erratic, but that is because you are zoomed in to the max. Just zoom out. The erratic nature is your phone's sensor that sends erratic data at that deep zoomed in level. And something I struggled with is when you select something in the SkyAtlas you can make it move to that point. But no record button. Go back to the previous screen and select "Stargazing" that is where your record button is.

@xtctaz 10 ай бұрын

Great q&a. Would they allow higher exposures like 13 or 15 sec?

@suomi422 4 ай бұрын

Man you should come to visit rural Japan, the night sky is perfect for this machine! Im Slovakian living near Achi (Japan no. 1 night sky) and I'm looking forward for every clear night

@CuivTheLazyGeek 4 ай бұрын

Oh wow, I'm so jealous! And yes I know I need to find ways to travel more...

@djregan9121 10 ай бұрын

Excitement to get my pre-ordered S50 continues to grow! Appreciate the video Cuiv! Question... I'm super curious how well the S50 will do stacking comets like Nishimura? Comets that get close enough (or nearly close enough) to see with the naked eye? I suppose depending on 'how close?' they are... we'd have "field of view" limitations? Thoughts?

@mlmeyers616 10 ай бұрын

I really enjoy your videos - I stumbled upon you after seeing an article for the Dwarf II and now have gone down a rabbit hole of wanting to get into astralphotgraphy. I'm torn between the ZWO Seestar S50 and the Dwarf II - Do you have a preference of the two for someone that is just wanting to dip their feet and get started? Both of these seem like great options, I'm wondering what you think.

@recursoseninternet 10 ай бұрын

Great! I would like to see more videos with Seestar tests, tricks, and suggestions. In this video, it was missing to talk about whether there will be a PRO mode that allows more adjustments and if that will be included in a software update, and also if it will be free for all buyers. Finally, I would like to suggest a video with image comparisons between the Dwarf and the Seestar. I imagine that the Seestar will be much better, but maybe the Dwarf can take better pictures of large objects that might appear “cut off” in the Seestar (it would be great to know if ZWO will also include a mosaic mode).

@williwx8314 10 ай бұрын

ZWO一直在迭代Seestar的软件，软件升级是免费的。Pro模式目前没有。我们订购S50的用户会被邀请加入ZWO创建的群组里，我们已经向ZWO的工作人员提出了软件增加Pro模式的需求，他们后面会考虑的。

@tma2001 9 ай бұрын

I just watched a side by side comparison video of the same 3 targets by ScottCastrophotography. Even after extensive post-processing the weird circular pattern noise is impossible to remove. Would be nice to see a cross of the two with the 8M pixel sensor of the Dwarf with the larger 50mm aperture of the Seestar plus equatorial mode support.

@roderickwho1983 10 ай бұрын

Thanks Cuiv. I'd love to hear your thoughts on the performance differences of the sensors in the Seestar and the Dwarf II. Is 2 megapixels too small ?

@Neanderthal75 10 ай бұрын

I know, I'm already thinking crazy things, but what if we can "freeze" the telescope in a certain position, attach it to an Equatorial mount and only the focusing/imaging would be active so we can use it as a 50mm imaging scope, that does it's own focusing . I know lol my idea is basically throwing away 90% of its capabilities, since otherwise it would be just a 50mm triplet scope with an autofocuser (which is not bad, right? ). p.s. I can almost bet, that by the end of the year, someone will attempt to do what I just said, maybe even succeed LOL!

@paolospeggiorin1180 9 ай бұрын

How do you suggest to connect the scope to a large monitor in order to show the images to a group of people? Thanks!

@roamingrino 6 ай бұрын

I’m really hoping zwo will come out with an integrated Wi-Fi camera that I can operate EAA easily with my cell phone!

@mikewarkentin8736 10 ай бұрын

Very well explained Cuiv. I was aware of the questions re is the image faked due to the Samsung cellphone camera moon image enhancements, but I think you could have answered the does it download images from the internet question by stating without station mode, the Seestar has no access to the internet, it forms it's own access point to connect to the smartphone or tablet.

@CuivTheLazyGeek 10 ай бұрын

I thought of that approach..... but then people would say that it has the images pre-loaded :)

@mikewarkentin8736 10 ай бұрын

Good point Cuiv. Welcome to the world of conspiracy theories!

@lastnovicewins 8 ай бұрын

@jmtanous 9 ай бұрын

Hi Cuiv, thanks a lot for the video. I love the way you address the questions. Do you think this telescpope will be able to perform basic photometry? It looks like a great tool to involve kids in explanet transits. The hardware should be enough for photometry, do you know if the telescope could be set to capture mono 2x bining? If it possible to dark and flat calibrate the images? If the S50 provides mono binin and calibration it should be possible to do basic photometry. What do you think? Cheers.

@Starman1959 10 ай бұрын

Hey Cuiv, Would it be possible to control this remotely from a website like a robotic telescope?

@henribuhagiar9445 8 ай бұрын

How many times I have set up my 12 inch scope, setting up, cooling the mirror, collimating then clouds coming over. This makes sense as quick to setup, easy to use, light and gets great results. I am definitely looking at buying one of these.

@CuivTheLazyGeek 8 ай бұрын

It's really a good little scope :)

@majesticreefs 10 ай бұрын

S50 is perfect for young people like kids to learn astronomy, most kids can use this with a phone or tablet, I wish I had this when I was a kid.

@CuivTheLazyGeek 10 ай бұрын

Absolutely - as a kid this would have been amazing...

@JD-xo3xz 10 ай бұрын

Would you recommend keeping or replacing the tripod? If so, which brand would be best?

@fredericruciak4498 10 ай бұрын

Hi Cuiv, thank for your first review and this one. I have big gears but I travel a lot and I preordered one just to see what I can get when I am away from home. I have a question regarding what I think is a significant undersampling of the zwo seestar50. According to the images you've seen, do you think that stacking includes drizzling to compensate the undersampling of S50? if not this could be included in a software upgrade 🙂

@developercm 3 ай бұрын

I wonder if ZWO will make larger Seestars in the future, like S-80, S-100, S-120 perhaps? That would be cool!

@arunka007 10 ай бұрын

Fantastic video. You answered a lot of my questions. I have one unanswered question though. If I am imaging in Nebula, and letting the telescope do it for one hour, does this mean the phone with the app running has to be right next to the telescope? Or can I start the imaging on the phone and then walk into my home to watch an episode of my favorite series and come to the backyard to see the stacked image? Wondering whether it is mandatory for the phone and the device to stay connected throughout the imaging process.

@CuivTheLazyGeek 10 ай бұрын

Answered as text in the conclusion of the video :) yes, the phone can be disconnected, the imaging and stacking will continue

@wolfgangkuechle9085 10 ай бұрын

I wonder whether a bigger and more sturdy tripod will improve the behaviour under windy conditions. Of course in some sense this contradicts the idea of having a small and compact device. I assume with the small tripod the center of mass is quite high and a more serious tripod could change this.

@CuivTheLazyGeek 10 ай бұрын

It's possible indeed - although to be honest the provided tripod, while small, is well built and sturdy. Maybe hanging a weight off of it could helps as well!

@styraxopoponax8294 9 ай бұрын

Thank you for covering this, great video! Another question-- is this device a good way for a beginner to get one's feet wet before graduating to more serious equipment/software within the ZWO ecosystem?

@meteorchaser946 10 ай бұрын

A "Pro" version of this would be interesting. I'm sure if there was a version with a mono sensor, BVR photometric filters and the facility to change exposure length it would be useful for variable star monitoring.

@robinletcher2676 7 ай бұрын

I'm sure the S80 will bring it all together. Eq mount and all. I'll play with this toy until then.

@TJ-ki3gp 7 ай бұрын

@@robinletcher2676That's exactly the size that I thought of 😂 EQ, bigger aperture and FL, more light and essentially the same software and it would be a dream for most.

@thecarbonprop 10 ай бұрын

So this cannot be used with an azimuth mount. How long could you do exposures on this until rotation becomes an issue? I know with a pro setup you might gather 20 hours worth of imaging over the course of many sessions. If I wanted to image a nebula for 5 hours will the data be usable?

@mikuspo 8 ай бұрын

Many Thanks for Q&A, @CuivTheLazyGeek! I got a question regarding S50: Qualifies this thing as a Cabin Luggage? Dimensions are OK, but how much Wh has the battery (seems, should pass under the 100Wh theshold and be allowed on pasenger plane)

@KofieBluejay 9 ай бұрын

I was looking at starting astrophotography, but the setup I think would be great for beginner (in a way), will cost more than 7000$CA, which is really expensive (but as a photographer I understand photography gear is expensive). Now that I know this exist, I think I will buy it first. Why? Because I will use it mostly like the setup I configured, aka an automated compact refractor build. Will it be better than a ZenithStar 73 coupled with a ASI2600MC and an AM3? Of course not, but it's 10x less expensive, but probably not 10x as bad. It will help me see if I really want to enter this hobby and spend that much money. See if I have the courage to spend nights setting up the thingy to do hours of exposure. It will help me get the subs and imaging, learn processing. At the end, if I buy the expensive setup, I will still be a nice thing to have during star parties, or travel and stuff. And it does sun photography, which for the 2024 eclipse is nice, ngl. As a beginner in the hobby, I'm very excited for this. Also, I'm very excited for ZWO to update this thing with a "pro/manual" setting. Because at the end, it's a rougly 230mm apo-triplet with a Az mount. The cheaper Az mount star tracker that exist in Canada is the Sky-Watcher and it's the same price than the whole Seestar. Tells you that much I think.

@CuivTheLazyGeek 9 ай бұрын

Thanks for this feedback! That's exactly how I see it - it's a great way to get into the hobby and test the waters, it's also very complimentary with an existing astrophoto setup! I've found myself using this little smart scope to browse the skies while my main scope was imaging :)

@KofieBluejay 9 ай бұрын

@@CuivTheLazyGeek That's great to hear then! If the product is good enough for someone of your experience, it tells a lot. I'm sure I'll be able to obtain some quality pictures with it too. Especially if I get to have the subs. I pre-ordered the scope, unfortunately I won't it until November according to canadian distributors, but right on time for Orion. Thank you for the review and updates, helped me a lot. I'm eager to see what you will do next with it. :)

@mikehardy8247 10 ай бұрын

Since the unit will continue to image with the phone disconnected, I wonder if I could connect an ASiair based imaging rig at the same time. This would allow imaging two DSO'S?

@barthennin6088 10 ай бұрын

Would be nice to be able to take images through red, green and blue filters as well as a grey scale (for brightness) and stack them in post processing. Is "binning" a possibility?

@darksanity 10 ай бұрын

Would you suggest this telescope as a beginner deep space object telescope for a very amateur stargazer, my equipment currently is the celestron Omni AZ 102... I do have a 5 mm lens but everything else is basic from the manufacturer, I've been really wanting to get into deep space photography but I don't have a massive budget so I've been trying to figure out what the best option is for me... I do have a Sony a6000 that I can attach to my celestron but I don't have the adapters for it yet. I would really appreciate your feedback!

@stewsmith9236 10 ай бұрын

What are the quality of the end results regarding noise and detail. Another good video 👍🏽

@simonfarmery7356 5 ай бұрын

Love your channel. I just purchased my S50 and have had it for a few days now. It's mindblowing what it can do. The only thing I can not seem to get to work is the auto-save for the images. Am I missing something right under my nose?

@CuivTheLazyGeek 5 ай бұрын

For me the images automatically appear in my Google photos (on Android)

@Madsnifas 10 ай бұрын

Cuiv, you better get me a space to sleep in your couch, because your videos just convinced me to orrder the Seestar S50 (while already owning a Dwarf II) and my wife will surely kick me out. :)

@CuivTheLazyGeek 10 ай бұрын

Hahaha I have a guest room lol Hope you have the dog house prepared in the mean while :)

@ducky7377 10 ай бұрын

I'm pushing a bit on the equatorial mode questions, but I'm very curious if the software is able to adjust the speed of the motors if the telescope isn't perfectly flat (aimed towards the north celestial pole for example 😁). I assume it would give error messages, but I'm still curious. This seems like the perfect telescope to start astronomy though, gives the most room for progression, while still having a decent sized lens. Even having a full astrophotography rig, I wouldn't mind having one for when I have a bit of time to share astronomy with others in a few minutes

@CuivTheLazyGeek 10 ай бұрын

The telescope actually detects tilt, and has a feature that helps you adjust the tripod legs within the app!

@JohnMunsch 10 ай бұрын

A related question has to do with starting it on a project and then leaving. It doesn't require the phone and app to stay present near the unit while it is running does it? Will it take a target, a set of instructions (filter on/off), duration, etc. and then work on that with you coming back to the unit to connect again to review the current results multiple times without interrupting what it's doing?

@mikewarkentin8736 10 ай бұрын

Some posts on the ZWO forum have indicated that you don't need constant connectivity to the Seestar, it will just keep taking exposures and stacking until it's told to stop.

@keithparker9852 10 ай бұрын

Thank you for the review. I do have a question and possibly a feature request - does it only shoot in the vertical orientation? It appears that everything it shoots is that way. It would be really nice if there was a way to rotate the camera, or rotate the orientation so that you could better frame the subject . If they can't do that, maybe a way to take a mosaic to get a wide aspect instead of vertical.

@CuivTheLazyGeek 10 ай бұрын

Only vertical orientation - mosaic is apparently on the roadmap but is really difficult because of field rotation, so may not get done.