Hey there! Thanks! I can’t comment on that exact size spec but will say I ran into a similar situation. I most run this bag on a XL frame but my fatbike is a L with a slightly curved top tube. I stuffed the bag into the triangle and it worked surprisingly well! The biggest thing to watch out for is make sure the bag doesn’t bulge out too far and your legs or crank arms hit the bag on each pedal stroke. The large Q factor on the fat bike helped this but I would think with only 3cm you’ll be ok, just make sure all of the straps are as tight as possible. Good luck!

Very true!

I thought that at first too but I’ve been very happy with them on 10-300+ miles rides. Generally on easier terrain, I still prefer a normal mtb bar on single track.

@RyanSarka I was fortunate enough to spend a day with a professional bike fitter in San Tropez, France. He taught me more than I could've ever imagined, including the physiological aspects of choosing the right (and avoiding the wrong) aspects of a bike. One thing I clearly remember him saying was to avoid back-sweeping handle bars as they are ergonomically opposite to your wrist's natural positioning and cause damage to your radiocarpal joints. To explain: He had me hold out my arms directory in front of me in a relaxed position. As a result, I had a slight bend to my elbow and my hands were angled inward (280° left hand & 80° on the right). He said "This is the arms' central point." i took this advice (and much more) back to London and immediately purchased a 460mm flat-bar with a subtle slope. I then fitted it to my bike with the bar sloped forward (opposite to the normal inward) and slightly down. This man is an absolute genius! Not only did my steering, control and overall performance improve exponentially... My entire body felt like it was integrated with my bike regardless of the terrain. I gained 10 watts in output and about 10km in endurance on road and 6km on trails. What's more, I now feel so much better after long rides. Stronger too. For the abovementioned reasons, I will never use a wide (over 500mm) and/or back-swept bar again. Things I wish I'd known a long time ago...but we don't get the chance to spend the day with a world renowned bike fitter every day now do we...?

@@TenFalconsMusic Thanks for letting me know and giving some additional info on the topic! Thats very interesting, I will absolutely give it a try. It does make sense, its just strange that its opposite of everything on the market. Does anyone make something like you are talking about or do you ride with a bar mounted "backwards"?

haha thanks! thats an old one from the Rocky Mountain Endurance Race series

Hahaha yea, it was just a little detour! 😆

Thanks so much! I hope they work out for you if you chose to buy the handle bars!

I havent seen that but its certainly a possibility.

@@RyanSarka Do you know what the clearance is? My stem is a Nukeproof Horizon it's pretty wide..

And the Spot or InReach is great when doing long trail rides through places with no service.

I was wondering about old paint do you mix it straight with the anti freeze ? and at what ratio?

Thank you! It really is an incredible route and would definitely recommend it!

Haha she's such a cool dog! Yea, great people and its such an incredible area. I hope its an awesome season for you!

I hope it went well!

It was incredible!!! Can’t wait to do another one! Looking for options near the ocean as we speak!

@@twentystwentythree Thats great, Im glad it went well and you are on to the next! The ocean views will make the time fly by!

I think it could help, I am using a 60mm stem. I like the shorter stem especially when holding on to the front and back loop portions of the bar. I hope these help you out!

Im using a 60mm, Im not sure what stock is but yes this is shorter. It works well for me.

At some point I need to try those!

Thank you, Im glad it was helpful! In my opinion the shorter winter ultra was more difficult than longer warm weather ultras I've done. Of course its different things that make it hard. I hope you do it in the next few years, good luck!

Hahaha its a great way to pass the time while traveling some of the most epic trail out there!

Thank you, good luck and have fun with it!

Thank you, it was a good day! Its worth it, I hope you have the chance to do it!

And the Broadfork Banana Bag is my favorite bag for the Jones bars.

@@watertankhikes One day I hope to ride a Jones bike and really see how it rides! Thanks for the recommendation on the bag, that looks like a nice option. Do you feel like you can still hold onto different parts of the loop with the bag in there while touring? At least on smoother surfaces.

Thats awesome, congrats! Im happy to hear that some of these things were helpful!

You are welcome and good luck! Even when you do everything right its still a long time on the bike but hopefully everything feels good and you have a great ride!

I've been using Supacaz Super Sticky Kush for a few years now and certainly recommend it!

@@RyanSarka Thank you.

Yes, there is a fair amount of road, gravel road and rail trail that a gravel bike would actually be better for. There are sections the the mtb was critical for, I think you might have a bit more hike-a-bike via a gravel bike vs a mountain bike but youll be faster and expend less energy on those flatter sections. When I rode it the majority of people (including myself) rode on hard tail mtbs, next in line would be the Salsa cutthroat gravel bike if memory serves. Enjoy! Id like to go back and do it at a fin pace as well.

@@RyanSarka Thanks, I'm fine with some hike-a-bike so I'll give it a go.

Check them out on Amazon (search "bike handlebar extender") but Ive just used them to mount the GPS and light. It gives you an additional bar with a few inches of height, I needed this for the light beam to go over the bag. It worked really well the few times Ive done it!

It does take some getting used to. This season I have been using it for all of my trail riding (most being 10-20 mile rides). Originally I didnt like them on more technical trails but at this point I do feel they are pretty comfortable. It does bend the wrists a little more than regular bars but I have been good with them!

Hey! Im still enjoying them, Ive actually been using them more and more on my "typical rides" (15-30 miles) mostly out of laziness not wanting to swap them out but Im always getting more used to them. I cant answer your question with certainty because my bike is actually a little big on me. I normally ride a L but during the pandemic I could only get an XL; because of this I ride with a short stem and the large back sweep actually puts me in a slightly more upright position that I like. Assuming your bike fits right out of the gate you may want to lengthen the stem. I do think that would depend on where you normally hold on. For instance if your holding on close to the cross bar you'll be more aero then at the end of the bars. Unfortunately I think the best thing to do would be to give them a try and see whats comfortable for you and your riding style. Sorry this not a concise answer!

I've hiked that trail in its entirety as well. It's very rugged!

The New York State Department of Environmental convened refer to these Catskill trails as “self-moderating.” The topography and geology of the Catskill Mountains make for challenging trails. However, this route opens by going through the Shawangunks. The Shawangunk Ridge is distinct from the Catskills and has a completely different geology.

@@kentgoldings Its a beautiful area, the self moderating trails seem to be unique to the NE compared to other areas Ive hiked and biked.

Haha Im not sure if your being sarcastic or not but if not I like that a lot!

I am interested in climbing these peaks but dont have anything currently planned. Is this something you have done or are working on?

@@RyanSarka Nope. I don’t plan on climbing the seven third summits myself anytime soon. They’re too expensive.

@@RFE812 all of the travel adds up. Orizaba wasn’t bad as far as mountaineering goes though.

@@RyanSarka Which one of the seven third summits do you think is harder to climb? Orizaba or Shinn(Antarctica’s third highest)

Agreed, they are fantastic for long rides and tours. Im happy I started using them.

Thanks for the feedback! I’m glad you brought that up I’m going to adjust that haha!! Enjoy the ride!

Thank you for watching! It was a tough race! I wasnt quite sure what to expect going into it but I was happy to make it through. Congrats on your finish! Do you plan to race it again?

@@RyanSarka Yes. My current plan is to do it next year. I'm also planning to do Tuscobia and Actif Epica.

@@ccbredeson Good luck at each of those!

It’s a Garmin Forerunner watch, it works well for me since I use it in other things then just riding.

@@RyanSarka thank you my friend

I’ve been using it with good luck for a couple of years now.

Thank you!

Glad to hear they are working out well. I haven’t used the bars with ergon grips but that’s what I use exclusively on my regular mtb handle bars, I’ll have to try them!

Thank you, there's certainly something about it that keeps me wanting those types of challenges.