What happened to: An engagement of the hindquarters, in an uphill balance a lightness of the forehand, a supple poll as the highest point and the nose in front of the vertical? Not to mention self carriage.
@minky7252 Жыл бұрын
Very badly bv. Some head wagging
@TheKingTubby12 жыл бұрын
well done - and for not giving up
@siennarobinson77832 жыл бұрын
What was the name of the song??
@thecraftykiwi772 жыл бұрын
This was vary helpful thank you
@wejump23 жыл бұрын
Too deep too long. Even when the horse stretches it's behind.
@daniellejansen65203 жыл бұрын
would be best to explain the aids for a halt, not just show yourself halting.
@emilydove25143 жыл бұрын
so badly over bent.
@debbiehattan8904 жыл бұрын
This, in my humble opinion, is exactly what not to do. This is not dressage. This is nearly torture for the horse. She is over-bent, over-bitted and constantly dug in the ribs at every stride by his spurs. Shame on him. Did his father, Ferdie Eilberg teach him this?
@AmeliaNewcombDressage4 жыл бұрын
Here's another interesting video on developing cadence in the trot: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rN-paMV43NywgJ8.html
@horseshowevents79754 жыл бұрын
This horse never reaches out to the bit
@b.wild_and_free82064 жыл бұрын
The horse is quite broken in the 3rd vertebrae, she has very little neck muscles. The front end and hind end aren’t connected at all which is why her back is so hollow. Her hind end is completely disengaged, she isn’t flexing in the hocks, and she doesn’t have any bend. What you’re saying is correct, but what you’re showing isn’t. You’ll cause a lot of damage to this horse if you continue riding her this way. If you want to see true dressage and partnership, please check out Will Faerber’s channel ArttoRide.
@lpjarrett4 жыл бұрын
How not to train a horse .
@JosephaGuillaume4 жыл бұрын
Euh, your horse is just hopelessly behind the movement, lacking behind because you hold her behind the contact. You say you should get the horse towards the contact but you do the opposite. Even when trying to go forward down she is still not able to open the throatlatch, hence she is very much on the forehand. Why? It is a horse others only can dream off, but getting the frame open again to allow true collection will be a pain. A shame...
@amberblyledge78595 жыл бұрын
Also HILL WORK. Just up and down hills, mostly up. They have to sit to control their speed down hill, and have to push to go uphill.
@danielthomas33335 жыл бұрын
He must be a Steinbrecht follower
@george.65565 жыл бұрын
Can the horse develop in uphill balance when the poll is never the highest point and so behind the vertical?
@danielthomas33335 жыл бұрын
How not to do it.
@SpectrumPS5 жыл бұрын
It is very kind of you to make this video available. Thank you very much!
@davo25876 жыл бұрын
this is the best info on Shoulder In i've found. Thank you
@bethbrown46706 жыл бұрын
Poor horse! Beautiful animal is already broken at the 3rd vertebrae. Riding a horse behind the vertical only causes back issues and will break the horse down within a very short time. Brilliance and expression come from self carriage not a constrained, tense horse. Please stop!
@lisahowland1444 жыл бұрын
:( I can see the break too. A beautiful animal with super movement. I am a show jumper learning more about dressage and it fills me with fear !
@yikkityyak6846 жыл бұрын
I was riding my super anxious, hot horse and we were jumping a couple low cross rails, and I was circling before my jump and we were getting her to calmly trot over them, so she was cantering the circling and I was half halting and bringing her back to trot and instead she just collected really nicely and I felt like she was a little dressage pony
@Miss-Laine6 жыл бұрын
Poor horse. :( You are cruel. The title of this video should be "DEVELOPING BROKEN 3RD VERTEBRA" At the end It looks like the horse is trying to stretch but you won't let him.
@ChristynaWydenes6 жыл бұрын
Why in the heck are you using the second bit, the horse is curling up behind the vertical something we sure do NOT like to see. Take the second bit out and ride the horse in a natural position with the natural cadence. Only then we have an honest cadence.
@lilyswartz90006 жыл бұрын
Helped me so much!!
@blythealexandra32336 жыл бұрын
He is very beautiful, very elegant and a nice smooth transition. Your seat is amazingly smooth and the transition from canter to walk is incredible. You are very easy on his mouth and he is very relaxed and attentive to you.
@JG-mt3rp6 жыл бұрын
Unpopular opinion - this video is being a bit unfairly maligned, it's a little deep but the horse is through and you get the impression this horse isn't ridden this deeply all the time. There's a trainer at my barn who rides LDR all the time and his horses go like shit. This isn't that, this is a limited, strategic use of compression, have no doubt this rider can elevate the poll at any time.
@JG-mt3rpАй бұрын
@peterbowcher742 Point out where I said this is "correct" Karen 😅
@jenniferhall23186 жыл бұрын
I'm glad he acknowledged the 'shortening of the outline' thing... I was worried all his horses would be permanently cranked! :s
@dominicweber7 жыл бұрын
This may all be good, but you would have an awful lot more collection in canter if you would incurve your horse while cantering. Those small circles of 10 m looked like ridden on a motorbike.
@heeeheee7337 жыл бұрын
people don't understand that some horses prefer to hold themselves behind the vertical and as a matter of fact find it more comfortable. my mare for example, loves to spend our rides behind the vertical. i am training her so i will eventually break that habit, but it takes time and there is no quick fix to it. this horse is obviously in training, so he/she is not perfect and obviously has things to work on. you cant just say to someone "your horse is behind the vertical, fix it". sometimes they cant, it's a work in process. stop bashing people when for all you know, they could be training this horse to fix this problem, it's just not displayed in this video. don't be an ignorant know-it-all.
@Romovictorio7 жыл бұрын
Hi, I do understand exactly what you mean, some horses go behind the vertical to evade contact & it is "work in progress" & it happens for many reasons. I think the rider, in this demo, would be assisting us if he explained if this were the case. There are mirrors in the school for him to check what he cannot feel but that he could see in the mirror. It is good that so many people are, "on the case" these days & pickup on issues which for too long have been ignored & are for the horse wellbeing & care. We all want/need to be shown the very best work done by the very best riders & trainers & being able to critique & also to be critiqued ourselves in a positive manner. Riding & schooling & training horses is a life's journey to be enjoyed & to give enjoyment & most of all to the horse whatever their ability & capability.
@heeeheee7336 жыл бұрын
I 100% agree with what you have stated. It kind of angers me when people are so harsh and quick to judge without knowing what goes on behind the scenes. Constructive criticism is great, but when it gets to the point of being disrespectful it ticks me off. :)
@jenspringerchannel6 жыл бұрын
Totally agree too. Everyone is a critic and horse expert on the Internet. We don’t know the back story and he does acknowledge they can contract. Every “expert” keyboard trainer likes to throw around works like BEHIND VERTICAL to sound knowledgeable
@coollikegrass24896 жыл бұрын
No, horses don't prefer to have their nose behind the vertical. If you have a horse that likes to dip it's head behind the vertical then there is a reason for that and the reason is not that the horse likes it. The horse has been taught the head needs to be in that position or that you give to the bit until I stop pulling, so when you ride the horse will put it's head in that position or give to the bit to the extreme.
@george.65565 жыл бұрын
Stop making excuses! It does take time to do it correctly. This horse has been competing!!!!!!
@crystalhaynes77257 жыл бұрын
thanks for showing us how NOT to train a horse!
@nigelcarter96376 жыл бұрын
WHO IS THIS BLOKE ?
@susiewalker7 жыл бұрын
for goodness sake please lift the reins to raise the poll - this horse is being held back - its trying to think and go forward but you are prohibiting it. open your fingers, raise the poll, so the the poll the highest point, lighten the forhand - let her look up - please dont break this beautiful horse - every good book and all the rules say the nose should be on or infront of the vertical - this riding is consistantly pulled down and back and under. your "good stretch' is not good - its still BTV. Forward out and down is a good stretch.
@nigelcarter96376 жыл бұрын
Totally agree Susie poor Horse !
@mariapintomota6 жыл бұрын
It's dramatic
@danacrosby36807 жыл бұрын
Not happy with how this horse is being held really too far beyond vertical. Looks painful. Not nice.
@karenthornton70147 жыл бұрын
"Variate it ?" lol you just created a new word
@welshcobsrule7 жыл бұрын
Sara Jane Lanning
@Persian7717 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing.whats name of the trainer?
@sashmax21898 жыл бұрын
She is stunning!!!
@roydelfino-orme82728 жыл бұрын
Well done for getting back on but could I ask a question. Why where you allowed to continue. I thought rider fall meant elimination.
@welshcobsrule8 жыл бұрын
Only at FEI level. At British Eventing national competitions you are allowed to fall once and remount and carry on.
@roydelfino-orme82728 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the reply. I'm pleased you weren't hurt and managed to continue. Well done
@jojoey55558 жыл бұрын
This horse is held in front; behind the vertical. why? The rider can use all the buzz words he likes: engagement, impulsion, half halt, cadence....blah blah blah....this horse has beautiful natural movement but it will break down if this training continues
@harshpalshekhawat89254 жыл бұрын
how can we continue to keep the horse in his natural gait and also develop it without spoiling what we already have??
@edmund_12234 жыл бұрын
@@harshpalshekhawat8925 more light contact, not too tight. Horse's nose in front of the vertical, not behind the vertical. The classical way. It is even FEI dressage rule.
@allyssaeq51613 жыл бұрын
Thank god i’m not the only one who saw that!
@svatom8 жыл бұрын
The horse is still at the reins. Stiff in the neck. The back unstretchable.
@sky-ih9cu8 жыл бұрын
Gorgeous mare!
@Pferdecoach8 жыл бұрын
very good demonstration !!!.....the eperienced rider can see how the horse becomes shortened in its body not loosing suppleness ....for not experienced people this work seems boring ..... smile
@welshcobsrule8 жыл бұрын
Show jumping.
@dogbloglincoln27118 жыл бұрын
what is sj?
@savvydanee8 жыл бұрын
Best video I've seen on the topic. And I've been watching many of them. Every test has at least two of them- such an important movement to nail.
@sandrabakerassemi8 жыл бұрын
The horse is held so tightly that you can see he's becoming broken at the 3rd vertebra. Shame really because he's such a forward mover and clearly has a world class trot already. See "ein Auktionspferd kehrt zuruck" with commentary by K. Balkenhol for a good look at how a talented young horse should be ridden.
@TheTeapotte6 жыл бұрын
Completely agree. The horse's back is always going to be hollow and trot will never develop correctly when he is this far behind the vertical. You can see the dip in his back behind the saddle also and the overdeveloped under neck muscle.
@welshcobsrule8 жыл бұрын
It is music by a group called "Bond" They remix classical music and give it a modern dance twist