Not a chance

I've left and he's not wrong I drink coffee I still dont swear or anything like that but I jumped ship to christianity. I dont think Joseph Smith was an oportunist I think he was decieved and have alot of compassion even though I hate what he has done. I don't doubt that he may have seen something I do however doubt the origin of the vision.

In my opinion,the mark placed upon Cain was to keep him safe once his cursing was made known none would harm him. If they did, they would also be cursed. Not necessarily the mark. The mark was thru Cain descendent line. Plenty of killing went on after that among the unmarked.

I’ve kinda lost respect since I’ve learned he often sought advice from Jodi Hildabrant

Thank you for touching on mental illness. So I have depression with psychosis. So yes it can really hard to know if it is the holy ghost or my depression. Then will go months with no spiritual communication then all the sudden the fogs lefts and his back. I have to remember the past. Thing it's why God makes me feel it so powerfully, so I will never forget.

I joined THE Church of Jesus Christ of latter-day Saints in 1975. I read the Book of Mormon twice that year and found it to be a Book filled with the Spirit of God that was simply written. The more I study the Book the more I find it to be like a little well that is very, very deep. Like the smoke from the Alter before the throne of God acendeth up for ever that's how deep I believe the Book of Mormon to be.

It’s reasonable for Mark Hoffman to write a false narrative about a divining rod because Joseph Smith use the stone in a hat to find buried treasure before any mention of the book of Mormon. Interesting that was not brought up in this discussion. Before the internet the church historical narrative was taught purposefully in a very specific way. Today there are palm readers and psychics, but we do not take them seriously. To say that it was completely normal in the 1800s for people to look at a rock and it can tell you where buried treasure was as long as you said the right phrases and carried out the right rituals or else a guardian spirt ghost would move the treasure away is all I need to know about a young boy. It’s one thing to search for gold during the gold rush. It’s another thing to say you can find gold in a magical way. By their fruits, ye shall know them. There’s nothing Mormon about the Book of Mormon as far as doctrine and principles. You have to ask yourself why doesn’t the church leaders ask you to know if the doctrine & covenants is true first? After all it is that book that really separates from other Christians.

I did invest almost two hours in this and find it incredibly weak. Joseph does not crumble based on the differences in first vision accounts alone. Alone they don't amount to much. They do form part of the story a changing and developing theology. They fit into a treasure digging narrative. The Book of Mormon builds off of mound building myths, lost tribe myths and protestant theology. Its part of the magical world view of the area he was raised. The central thesis of the BOM is that the American Indians are descendants of near east jews. That is demonstrably false. There are lots of apologetics to try to explain it away, but Joseph assertions matter. You have to factor in his later translation efforts, Book of Abraham, Kinderhook, the revelatory book of Moses. Considering the totality of the man, his body of work, his legacy, his failings and successes, I can't find a way to consider him what he claimed to be.

I always thought that we worshiped the same Christ as other Christians. I am now seeing that the Mormon Jesus is not the same as Jesus Christ who died for me!

Muchas gracias a Don Bradley por su7 experiencia, ha sido muy edificante

I love heartfelt propaganda, I mean testimonies.

28:00 absolutely it's a faith crisis involving Christ! Read Galatians, Read the new testament it's not the same Jesus as i learned about in the LDS faith. The new testament speaks about Grace of Christ a free gift the LDS doctrine speaks of works and earning our salvation. What is the true gospel? The good news is getting something when you don't deserve it and haven't earned it, that's good news!

I just finished reading /Joseph Smith and World Government/ by Hyrum Andrus. He gives the history of the Council of 50, which was the political arm of the Priesthood. It was theocracy done right for a pluralistic society. The government exists only to protect human rights and punish lawbreakers. All other functions belong to the community. leaders are selected by revelation and supported by common consent. This eliminates the problem of electing bad leadership and allows the state to function independently from the Church in all other ways. It incorporates the best of republican governments without the drawback of raw democracy (which leads inevitably to oppression of minorities).

i appreciate the conversation. one point of disagreement, though. i appreciate the idea of "faithful questions", but i disagree that we must take a stance before we interpret the facts. you even say at another point that we should strip ourselves of our assumptions- i agree. an investigator (scientifically) should exercise no bias. i think a better approach is to exercise patience while we collect ALL of the facts (and their context) available. then, without malice, we weigh the facts honestly and then make a decision to proceed faithfully until we obtain more data. God loves effort and will reward honest seekers of truth.

The grandiosity of Joseph Smith . An invisible god and his son, which can not return to anywhere but isreal appears in new york . If you can't comphrind that blasphemy. They add 36 other imaginary friends. No thanks.

Islam allows forgiveness by the victim

LDS is the most mocked religion. I must be doing something right.

This is wrong. Sounds smart but it is scientifically unsound. Not the technique perhaps but the assumptions that it must be translated because he couldn't write it. It's wrong in the time table. This is completely sewed information. Unsub. Bad info

Mental health is more than just mind It's body It's spirit It's nervous system It's Satan It's collective meaning It's not just about you you are connected to a web of others they impact you. It's intergenerational Why aren't these things taught

Amazing interview I could listen too this beautiful lady forever

i was a far-gone teenager with zero interest in the church. one saturday i got the mail and, in it, an anti-mormon pamphlet. i read all this stuff about how joseph smith was a false prophet. it gave me a sinking feeling. since (i thought) i didn't care, i was surprised that it made me feel bad. over the following few days a fear grew within me that if JS wasn't true, then maybe God wasn't real. i secretly wanted God to be real. so i started a serious journey to find out if God was real, which included studying the BoM and DC. a year or so into that journey, i got an undeniable witness from God. since then, i've embraced faith-shaking questions as opportunities to level-up my understanding. i've never been left wanting. praise God.

I love her spirit and great devotion to the savior and great understanding of his doctrine.

Did God restablish His truechurch here in these last days? Is so it would be very for satin to do everything inhis power to mock His church, and dis credit its teaching. Bottom line. It is the true church or not. Up to you. Choose wisely. Now place your bets.

Marshall Applegate

This was very interesting to me! All those women were already pregnant. I know the church is true and have had a witness so I don’t think about those things that happened long ago. But this is very interesting to know! Very great interview! Thanks!

Guess who else writes in different voices? Any good fiction writer. One way to create a character is to give them a distinctive voice. Would someone explain to me how this book is true if there is no anthropological evidence whatsoever for these supposed lost tribes? This question is especially directed towards the Harvard educated academics. I truly do not understand.

I admire your father for always supporting and honoring your mother, even though her choices affected him also. What a great example he is. I love your whole story, there is so much for all of us to learn and become.

I'd like to push back just a little on the word of wisdom comments. Coffee and alcohol and smoking are all acquired tastes. Besides that, you have to purchase it. It doesn't just find its way into your cabinets. So that means you seek it out. Additionally, it takes work to overcome the taste repulsion of each of those things for most people. So not believing in the word of wisdom does not make a straight line to partaking anything that violates it.

Growing up LDS in a non-LDS part of the country, and then going to Idaho or Utah is a huge culture shock for a lot of us "mission field" people. I totally relate to his story. In low LDS areas, the members really look after each other. Growing up in Wisconsin, my calling at church felt more important. As a member, I felt like I had a ton to offer, especially since almost everyone I associated with wasn't LDS. When I first went to BYU-Idaho for school, I felt like a small fish in a big LDS pond. On the rare occassions I made comments in Sunday school lessons, it felt like other members would raise their hands to try and one-up my comment. I felt like I wasn't as good as other members of the church on campus and wasn't that important to my ward. I totally relate to Shane Reese's story here. Yes, the gospel is the same everywhere, but the church culture in high LDS populated areas is way different from "mission field" areas. I love and sustain the general authorities, but many are from Utah and I don't always think they grasp what life is like for an average member in low LDS populated areas, especially for youth in those areas. It's nice to see a school president represent and understand what students from these areas who come to BYU are going through, and the culture adjustment they have to make.

What a marvelous way to tech us that great true of the real concept of God Thanks for having bro. Harper interview.

This was such a great interview ❤

What she is saying about abuse and figuring out how to tell people is spot on. She is a great advocate! Great interview and thanks for bringing this to light!

Really like this channel, but Stephen, you don't need to moan into the mic all the time 😄

The reason we incarcerate people is to protect the public from them. Of course giving people the option to choose faith while in prison is good, but it’s not the reason for prison. Maybe if faith is the answer, required survey of religion classes should be part of public education, not just prison.

L O L… In the last days many will fall for the craftiness of false analysis

What a beautiful interview. Shima’s testimony of love and forgiveness is so vibrant. A great reminder to me of the power of the atonement to transform hearts and lives.

Okay, how should I interpret JS’s three different accounts of the first vision? I understand the truth can get muddled if it's coming from three different people, but this is one person who had three different accounts of one event.

This whole, "assumptions", narrative is complete BS...I'm 58...I grew up in the version of LDS theology when you were told what to think about what happened, whether it was the first vision or anything else.....you're lying to yourself.

Not President Monson .. he was perfect ..

Everything about her and the way she thinks is beautiful 😀

1:02:59 The sin against the Holy Ghost is the unpardonable sin.

So good 🙏 love the gospel, love this story ❤

I loved the discussion about the how the constitution is based on religious principles, found in the Law of Moses. We don’t realize how many principles of mercy were contained within it. The people under the law were given the option to extend mercy under many of the laws given.

So very true, I work in detention and those who participate in religious programs are less likely to commit infractions. ❤

My goodness!

This was absolutely amazing! I lost count on how many times I said WOW! My heart is so full ❤ THANK YOU so MUCH for sharing your story with us ❤

Just beautiful and sweet, inspiring testimony. Thank you so much. May the Lord continue to bless inspire and keep you.💗💗💗💗🙏🙏🙏🙏👍 This interview is very enlightening…your scripture knowledge ( both of you ) is amazing.👍👍👍👍💗

The constitution is not inspired by the Lord, it’s men! it does not coincide with the commandments. Quit bringing your old traditions into your new face. Paul had the same problem with the Romans.

I feel like the reoccurring offenders thing is bs, but i love the premise, should be a place of rehabilitation....whatever that looks like, either a cathedral compound in the mountains or forests or some philosophy and understanding, alot more RnD could go into it at the minimum.

I wish I could like this more than once. Great interview. Amazing, unique conversion story and amazing experiences. I agree with her desired reforms on our penal system. As an attorney, I’ve also struggled with our “correctional” system and question whether locking people up is the answer to all problems. We really do need to be more concerned the reforming individuals rather than punishing them or locking them away.