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@user-jo2wx2xm8h
@user-jo2wx2xm8h Күн бұрын
I consider myself a true comic collector. I started reading comic books at the age of seven. I didn’t even know what a collector was nor did I care. I bought comics then and now because I loved reading them not for any monetary value. I kept them because I read them over and over and would trade with my brother’s friends. I saved my small allowance and would buy them when I could. Even when I joined the Army and was stationed in Germany I still bought comics but not as a speculator, I was and still am a COLLECTOR at heart!
@lukeorloki
@lukeorloki Күн бұрын
I agree that excessive speculation (of all forms) drives prices beyond their perceived intrinsic value which usually leads to a crash or a correction. The comic market has been correcting for the past year or two. However, cons are still well attended and books are still selling. From this perspective, speculation has only created a market bubble that has corrected and the hobby is still healthy. If you just want books to read at a cheap price then speculation probably isn't good. If you want a healthy hobby with cons, tons of new books, and shows then the interest and finance that speculation brings is probably a slight positive at the cost of having to pay more for books. Will the current era of excessive ratio variants have a negative effect on the new book market like overprinting and over speculation did in the 90's? Maybe or maybe not. Time will tell. Will some areas of the market shrink in a decade or three as the current collectors get older? Maybe.
@lukeorloki
@lukeorloki Күн бұрын
Also, even though speculation drives up prices, it also brings more interest and funds that facilitates making reprints and TPB available for fans to read the books they love.
@JernosComicsPopCulture
@JernosComicsPopCulture Күн бұрын
Very well thought out statements and pondering.
@poing333
@poing333 Күн бұрын
Bruh you shouldn't judge based on budget alone. They don't protect more against uv light but the BCW plastic boxes do protect more against things like liquids and just feel way more secure. $30 isn't that much if you're buying comics that are $30+ then skip one a month and buy a BCW plastic.
@JernosComicsPopCulture
@JernosComicsPopCulture 3 сағат бұрын
True if I was simply to protect my most valuable books, I’d spend a little more for them. But honestly, I just prefer cardboard too. Maybe it’s a nostalgia thing.
@AdamHoutman-qj7fy
@AdamHoutman-qj7fy 2 күн бұрын
You are dumb. Spec RUINED comics in the 90s. It'll ruin comics now. If you think money is cool, invest in the stock market.
@danalvin1184
@danalvin1184 2 күн бұрын
Wanting to preserve vintage materials makes one an archivist, not a speculator -- the terms are far from synonymous :) It's like equating historians with day traders because they both might handle lots of paperwork throughout the day. . . .
@JernosComicsPopCulture
@JernosComicsPopCulture 2 күн бұрын
Respectfully, you sure misinterpreting my words. Wanting to preserve it for ‘future value’ is a form of speculation. I don’t know how much more simply I can put it. If someone purchases any type of item with a focus on the future values of that item, that is speculation, period. Day traders are one form of market speculators. It’s just one flavor out of many.
@ozymandias2k
@ozymandias2k 2 күн бұрын
Writing this so that hopefully these comments would be helpful to others. Because of you, I bought lots of BCW bags. They are NO GOOD. Very thin and they start wrinkling within a few weeks. You criticize Ultra Pro bags because of that but why no mention of BCW bags doing the same? Because they sponsor you? Luckily I tried some Comic Pro Line as well and yes they rip if you tear at the seam but I didn't encounter that issue when putting books and folding the flap over. So value for money I'll say Comic Pro LIne.
@JernosComicsPopCulture
@JernosComicsPopCulture 2 күн бұрын
I appreciate you sharing this and I trust that you are being honest in your experience, but let me make something clear: Never will I speak on ANYTHING simply because someone "sponsors" me. First off, Ultra Pro offered me a sponsorship before BCW. I declined. Secondly, I'm not sponsored by BCW, but yes, I am an affiliate, but by MY choosing. I reached out to THEM , because I believe in their brand. To your issue with your BCW bags? Why I have never talked about BCW bags wrinkling? Because I've never had BCW bags wrinkle. It's that simple, and that's the god honest truth. I have mutliple videos where I show BCW bags that I have had comics in for over a decade without one wave or wrinkle. I also have Ultra Pro bags that I've had comics in for less than a year, and they are very wrinkled. I also have more videos of Comic Pro Line splitting in such a very easy manner. My assumption? There is more of an environment issue for you rather than a brand issue. If your BCW bags are wrinkling that easily, you need to do a process of elimination. IE. What is the temperature where you store them? Is it humid? Are you allowing your comics to breathe in the bos? Are you leaving comics stacked on top of each other? Etc. I'd be interested in knowing.
@copy801
@copy801 2 күн бұрын
Speculation for the wrong reasons is bad for the hobby. Are long term readers speculators......no. Reading is not a form of speculation if the purpose is to read the books. If you want to make the argument of "well technically everyone who buys comics is a speculator" then there would be no differentiation between toxic behavior. Some good points, but you're splitting hairs on some others.
@JernosComicsPopCulture
@JernosComicsPopCulture 2 күн бұрын
I appreciate the feedback, but I will respectfully say that I think you heard me wrong. I'm not splitting hairs, as I'm not stating what you are saying. I NEVER said everyone who buys comics is a speculator. Not once. If someone purely buys comics to read and nothing else, they are not speculating in any way, and I stated this. BUT, if a collector buys comics to read, but also cares about future value, then in part, they are speculating. It's not splitting hairs, it's just that simple.
@copy801
@copy801 2 күн бұрын
@@JernosComicsPopCulture I was generalizing based on your statement which was, "If you collect anything and you want to preserve whatever it is you collect, comic books......to some degree, in a sense, you are speculating." 2:38 - 2:57. That dear sir, is splitting hairs. When you start using "to some degree" or "in a sense" in this context, it's another way of saying "well technically", which is splitting hairs. However, by your own definition, if someone buys comics to read, puts them in bags and boards to preserve them for future use (reading again), they are speculating. If someone buys trade paperbacks or omnibus and puts them neatly in a bookshelf to preserve them so they could be read in the future, they are speculating. Your statement applies to readers who want to preserve their collections so they can read them in the future. Whether it was your intention to say this or not, it was said. If someone buys comic books, the expectation is that they buy bags, boards, and boxes to put them in. Which again, by your argument would make 99% of comic book collectors speculators, which is inherently false.
@JernosComicsPopCulture
@JernosComicsPopCulture 2 күн бұрын
@@copy801 I want to first state that the statement you took was one I repeated a couple different times in the video where I clarified what I meant, which was preserving it for sake of "value." Not just preserving it as a sentimental collectible. So while yes, you can take the few seconds of that statement and isolate it and go on a tangent trying to tear apart my argument. But again, listen to the whole video. Yes, I should have clarified it each time I said it, but it was already stated in complete context. Preserving for the sake of future value. I want to preserve my t-shirts so they last long and don't shrink or get stained. Doesn't mean I'm speculating on the value of my used shirt. lol. Come on now. So I humbly ask, please, actually listen to the whole video, and you'll know what I'm saying was pretty clear. Caring in ANY part about future value, is speculating. Period. I do agree that speculating for the wrong reasons can be detrimental to the hobby.
@WarriorsforInfoTV
@WarriorsforInfoTV 2 күн бұрын
Used to be you had to be brained and remember what the keys were from memory. Key Collector/CBSI ruined that experience for some.
@JJHall-kk5qh
@JJHall-kk5qh 2 күн бұрын
This is a good take. I agree with pretty much everything you’ve said here. Not everything in comics is so black and white. We can have both speculation and love for the comics at the same time. :)
@JernosComicsPopCulture
@JernosComicsPopCulture 2 күн бұрын
Indeed!
@hayesisaac6890
@hayesisaac6890 2 күн бұрын
this guy is a total jerkoff
@user-el1uu4mq2f
@user-el1uu4mq2f 2 күн бұрын
Most shop owners hate Wednesday modern spec/flippers. Although not as prevalent as a Few years ago, there are people that will clean out every shop in a city of a spec book just to flip. Comics has been hidden from those guys in bulk for many years. Then they pop up again during the Slabdemic. This is what a speculator is or people refer to when saying speculator. Anyone trying to speculate quick flip older books now should have learned their lesson by now. Sure you can throw all these caveats in but this generally what it is.
@JernosComicsPopCulture
@JernosComicsPopCulture 2 күн бұрын
I appreciate you watching and commenting but I will respectfully disagree with pretty much everything you said. Also, any comic shop owner that hates selling books to anyone, no matter who they are, on new comic book Wednesdays, probably shouldn't be in business.
@user-el1uu4mq2f
@user-el1uu4mq2f 2 күн бұрын
Yeah selling a product is selling a product but I spoke to a shop that's been in business for 40 plus years and they pretty much hate it. Also other more modern heavy shops will limit books. I've seen signs that say any past 3-5 copies etc is ebay price to help slow these guys down. You have to protect your long time clientle somehow.
@JernosComicsPopCulture
@JernosComicsPopCulture 2 күн бұрын
@@user-el1uu4mq2f I share a similar sentiment with what you are describing, and I champion shops that limit copies and/or upsell after a certain amount. It's only fair. But again, my point remains. That is NOT simply what a "speculator" is. And that's the whole point of this video. We have taken a term that is a very broad and nuanced term and turned it into something dirty to describe something that people put in a nice little box and tie a bow on. Those people that you describe, more specifically, are most likely short term flippers. Do they speculate? Yes. But they are only one flavor of speculator.
@florianneumann9441
@florianneumann9441 2 күн бұрын
imho the truth is what was obvious to the people in 'the game' for a long time - that the covid high was a bubble - that all this variant cover of new issues bs was a bubble and that it was time to sell. Now reality sets in and the n00bs that didn't experience the 90s got burned. Buy what you love
@dreigros
@dreigros 2 күн бұрын
Actually there is a distinction in between. A collector is a hobbyist doing/collecting something out of love. While speculator is there for the money and investment. Simple as that. Also speculation is not good or a bad thing its just prediction. Anyway, nice vid, have a nice day!
@JernosComicsPopCulture
@JernosComicsPopCulture 2 күн бұрын
I appreciate the comment and the love, but I will have to humbly disagree with you, simply because collecting, as well as most things in this world, is not that black and white. Again, someone can have "LOVE" for the hobby simply by speculating. Collecting out of love doesn't define the reason why they collect. Stock brokers might LOVE working in stocks. People who play fantasy sports and bet might LOVE playing famtasy sports, even though there is betting involved. Again, any collector that cares about future value in ANY shape, form or fashion, is in some part "speculating," and that is where it becomes simple. Most collectors, to SOME small degree, speculate in one way or another.
@dreigros
@dreigros 2 күн бұрын
​@@JernosComicsPopCulture Absolutely, things can always intersect or align. Not just distinction, there is also a conflict of interest between collector and speculator. Collector only happy when the prices are down cause it makes the desired item/s more accessible for the collector. On the other hand speculator can be happy with both upwards or downwards parabola, in the end they are betting on the prediction of prices will inflate. I'm not saying you can't be both but there is a dichotomy between the two.
@JernosComicsPopCulture
@JernosComicsPopCulture 2 күн бұрын
@@dreigros You can be both and through my 35 plus years of collecting and years of studying the market, I would argue that the majority of collectors absolutely blur those lines. It's like saying there is a clear distinction between people who prefer steak and people who prefer chicken, but most of them will still eat both. That's why we cannot simply say, "if someone collects for the love of the hobby, they aren't a speculator." The clear distinction that makes all kinds of collectors in some part a speculator is if they care about future value. Period. And to your last point, you would be lying to yourself if you ignored the fact that those same collectors that are happy when prices are down so they can buy low...... are also happy when prices go up, AS LONG as they already own the book. ;) And that's the pettiness and the conundrum of collectors. They want to point fingers when a book gets hot and shoots up in price when it's a book they don't own, but will gladly reap the satisfaction of seeing what's in their collection gain value, even if they don't plan on selling.
@jfhaze
@jfhaze 3 күн бұрын
Is this a reupload ?
@JernosComicsPopCulture
@JernosComicsPopCulture 2 күн бұрын
Unfortunately I’m still suffering from long term health issues that are preventing me from being able to record new material but I’m trying very hard to get there.
@e36boy
@e36boy 3 күн бұрын
I like collecting because of reading and covers. I also like collecting just to have a piece of history. I also want think of them as some sort of investment but not for me but for my kids.
@jonathanloera6830
@jonathanloera6830 3 күн бұрын
Sorry you didn't make sticky goose top 5 comic book KZfaqrs , better luck next time bud
@JernosComicsPopCulture
@JernosComicsPopCulture 3 күн бұрын
🤣🤣🤣 oh the luck is not making the list. Means I can sleep at night knowing I’m a decent human being.
@jonathanloera6830
@jonathanloera6830 3 күн бұрын
@@JernosComicsPopCulture ahhh come on buddy don't be like Kanye. At least you were in the running seen as your in the thumb nail and all
@JernosComicsPopCulture
@JernosComicsPopCulture 2 күн бұрын
@@jonathanloera6830 I wouldn’t know because I don’t pay attention to the drama of others anymore.
@rushdiehard8784
@rushdiehard8784 3 күн бұрын
i wonder how many modern grails have come out since the beginning of 1990?? Maybe 10 or less?? Don't buy todays modern books that come out every week. There are no investments in them. If you buy them to read, thats fine. The variants are the main reason the modern age books are still hanging around. Great content and video!!
@JernosComicsPopCulture
@JernosComicsPopCulture 3 күн бұрын
Appreciate you!
@mickeybeavison1053
@mickeybeavison1053 3 күн бұрын
Cool
@stephensublett7159
@stephensublett7159 3 күн бұрын
I'm 48. Ive been collecting since 93'. I sold my first collection and started over again about a year ago. I consider myself a collector and a speculator at the same time. I collect GI Joe, transformers and Spawn. When Im at the LCS on Wednesday picking up my new books, I also look through the new releases and I pick up the ones I think will spec. I plan to hold my book until I retire (20+ years). If I live that long then I will sell them off or If I pass away then they will all go to my son.
@luismendoza4514
@luismendoza4514 3 күн бұрын
Great talking points i love these types of conversations
@JernosComicsPopCulture
@JernosComicsPopCulture 3 күн бұрын
Thanks, Luis!
@user-jb6if007gr
@user-jb6if007gr 3 күн бұрын
Hope you are doing well.
@JernosComicsPopCulture
@JernosComicsPopCulture 3 күн бұрын
Thank you! I've been battling vestibular vertigo for 5 weeks now and I'm still trying to heal, but one day at a time! I can't wait to get back in front of the camera!
@larrysmith7301
@larrysmith7301 3 күн бұрын
Great thoughts!
@JernosComicsPopCulture
@JernosComicsPopCulture 3 күн бұрын
Thanks, Larry!
@JernosComicsPopCulture
@JernosComicsPopCulture 3 күн бұрын
Get 10% off your BCW Supply order when you use the code JERNOS when you purchase from their website here: www.bcwsupplies.com/?acc=Jernos
@GambitRodriguez-sl2hz
@GambitRodriguez-sl2hz 3 күн бұрын
I have been using Standard Mylites 2 with no issues, once the book is in the bag and taped the books doesn’t move.
@JernosComicsPopCulture
@JernosComicsPopCulture 3 күн бұрын
For Mylar, those are the best. Boards are another story.
@alfredthegreat7750
@alfredthegreat7750 4 күн бұрын
I love dry cleaning my comics❤
@Dontbiteyourtongue_
@Dontbiteyourtongue_ 7 күн бұрын
I’ve also had bad experience at a shop I was trying to give a lot of business to Just subscribed
@JernosComicsPopCulture
@JernosComicsPopCulture 7 күн бұрын
Thanks for being here!
@RaymondRich
@RaymondRich 9 күн бұрын
Love your content, Jerno, but I think the reality is someone ignorant about comics isn't looking to become less ignorant. They're desperately seeking someone even more ignorant to take advantage of.
@JernosComicsPopCulture
@JernosComicsPopCulture 3 күн бұрын
This is true. But those uneducated to how ignorant sellers work can now have some insight on how not to make bad purchasing decisions.
@DeusExAstra
@DeusExAstra 10 күн бұрын
Just FYI, using free Priority Mail packaging for other than Priority mail might be against the law. If that's the case, making a video where you go this and advice people to also do it isnt perhaps the best idea.
@JernosComicsPopCulture
@JernosComicsPopCulture 10 күн бұрын
Everything packaged in the video is indeed shipped priority.
@eco-enjoyer
@eco-enjoyer 12 күн бұрын
X-men 129. First Kitty Pryde, S. Shaw, and White Widow. The X-men are coming. Disney is going to rock the relaunch.
@matthewallen803
@matthewallen803 14 күн бұрын
I actually think $100 for that Transformers #1 isn't excessive. But the rest are ridiculously priced. Every time I look at Facebook market place for comics I regret it. I recently enquired about a New mutants 87 1st cable which had thick pen writing on the cover plus other defects. Firm price on enquiry $200. Back to ebay for me
@ccsportsfan7886
@ccsportsfan7886 14 күн бұрын
excellent
@HorizonPicks
@HorizonPicks 15 күн бұрын
perception of value - pass - also an in video ad and YT ad in 1st few minutes of the video - also pass
@JernosComicsPopCulture
@JernosComicsPopCulture 15 күн бұрын
Yet here you are leaving a comment. Appreciate it! 🙏🏻
@RonSM2112
@RonSM2112 15 күн бұрын
Chris…..hang in there. Glad to see that you seem to be moving through this.
@JernosComicsPopCulture
@JernosComicsPopCulture 10 күн бұрын
Thank you! 🙏🏻
@SATTU__
@SATTU__ 16 күн бұрын
Bro, with your information that you present, on KZfaq, I’ve changed out my bags just keep coming up with the awesome content, man
@JernosComicsPopCulture
@JernosComicsPopCulture 15 күн бұрын
Appreciate the feedback and support!
@SATTU__
@SATTU__ 16 күн бұрын
That’s what she said
@whitebeans3557
@whitebeans3557 16 күн бұрын
She don’t care what the book goes for she prob looked at listing price and wants to scam…that being said your intention was good behind what you said but at the same time there’s no point in educating someone who don’t care.no hate towards you it’s just you can’t teach someone who don’t wanna learn
@JernosComicsPopCulture
@JernosComicsPopCulture 16 күн бұрын
The real education here is to viewers watching that might be new collectors that wouldn't know better. So hopefully people watch and learn how to avoid paying way too much for comics.
@whitebeans3557
@whitebeans3557 16 күн бұрын
@@JernosComicsPopCulture and you did a good explanation on it I’m just saying this lady was not a person willing to understand the hobby and try and be fair she just wants the highest dollar and not willing to be fair
@geraldpowell4403
@geraldpowell4403 16 күн бұрын
Nothing turns me off more than an individual selling high priced books, but does not treat them as collectibles like with the protection of normal bags and boards. Dealer should have spent $20 to have them all protected.
@stanfortuna2624
@stanfortuna2624 16 күн бұрын
You can just respect her price and say pass. I came across a comic collection on Fb and the seller wanted 10k on a 90's collection. Granted it has New Mutants 98, Batman Adventures 12, Venom number 1 but it isnt worth 10K dollars. I messaged him if he is open to selling just The New Mutants 98, he said "no." So I didnt reply and passed on it. No need to educate non comic collectors who dont know the value. A week ago I found a Fantastic Four number 48 long with a short box of silver age comics, seller wanted 30 dollars for it. So I took the opportunity and bought it!
@totalnv16
@totalnv16 16 күн бұрын
Is this a new video or old video reposted?
@OhhhG44
@OhhhG44 16 күн бұрын
The name says it all. Karen
@jasonb6958
@jasonb6958 16 күн бұрын
What app did you use to reference for her?
@JernosComicsPopCulture
@JernosComicsPopCulture 3 күн бұрын
Covrprice
@vynilrob9719
@vynilrob9719 17 күн бұрын
The only thing I like is that she uses a black background like I do... everything else...bruh...
@MetalBum
@MetalBum 17 күн бұрын
Yo my man great coverage always. ❤
@JernosComicsPopCulture
@JernosComicsPopCulture 3 күн бұрын
Thank you! Good to see you in the comments!
@MetalBum
@MetalBum 3 күн бұрын
@@JernosComicsPopCulture yeah bro had second baby lol
@illscribe
@illscribe 17 күн бұрын
Seems like FBM is a giant pain in the ass. You’ve already posted many videos about bad experiences on FBM. Have you had any positive experiences on FBM?
@JernosComicsPopCulture
@JernosComicsPopCulture 3 күн бұрын
I have. There's been a few, but it's not something that I frequently use.
@claymeinke5722
@claymeinke5722 17 күн бұрын
Thank goodness for free mailers!
@forzendikar9908
@forzendikar9908 17 күн бұрын
Lady be trying to fleece people.😂😂
@donaldvonglitchenberger4108
@donaldvonglitchenberger4108 17 күн бұрын
dude the last thing these people want to hear from a stranger on facebook is that their “”$500 worth of. comic books are really only worth $40 lol
@JernosComicsPopCulture
@JernosComicsPopCulture 17 күн бұрын
Well when you put it like that lol
@stephenritucci7468
@stephenritucci7468 17 күн бұрын
Im not saying that this happened. I've been on both sides when not hearing a person's tone, education through only text can be misinterpreted as condescending or lecturing. Why I prefer verbally negotiating
@JernosComicsPopCulture
@JernosComicsPopCulture 17 күн бұрын
Oh absolutely, but I think it became clear that she knew what she was doing, knew she didn't carea bout selling them at a fair value, and would rather let them sit until some fool didn't know any better.
@jimcrumb1118
@jimcrumb1118 17 күн бұрын
Like the channel - but I mean, at some point, they're asking you to move on regardless of what they know or don't and it's their right. So, at some point, you're not educating, you're just making content for the channel. And that's fine. But you're playing the I'm just here to educate card pretty hard.
@JernosComicsPopCulture
@JernosComicsPopCulture 17 күн бұрын
I think I was very fair in my communication all the way through, and didn't "pressure" her in any way. You are correct that the intent is for content, but I do it for content to educate viewers. It's important to me to show these situations, including how the communication unfolds, so uneducated collectors, or new collectors, know what to spot, know how to be educated buyers.
@RaymondRich
@RaymondRich 8 күн бұрын
@@JernosComicsPopCulture I think it's important to note that if you got someone who responded positively, and even if they didn't budge on price, showed genuine appreciation for the information, I'm reasonably certain you would sing their praises and use it as an object lesson just the same.