There was the years where the team was a contender, and his best trade was for Vanek his worse was Petry, they never woulda made then playoffs wit Petry, if it. Wasn't for covid
@ArmChairGMPodcast4 күн бұрын
Treliving's biggest fault is a lack of foresight. Not setting up for the expansion draft, not seeing the writing on the wall with gaudreau or Bennett, not giving a budding superstar in Tkachuk a long term deal when he wanted one, I could go on for days. He straight up ruined the flames and bailed. Pretty excited for him to do the same to the leafs. I can't believe they hired that fucking scrub.
@maxrcrypto4 күн бұрын
Some topics to consider: How Dubas mismanaged the Leafs, John Chayka's adventure in the desert
@WhatsHappeningHockey4 күн бұрын
Both are in our idea bank. Stay tuned!
@humanbeing24206 күн бұрын
How about covering Mike Milbury's time as GM of the Islanders? Could be entertaining...
@WhatsHappeningHockey6 күн бұрын
Milbury and Snow are both on the list. Thanks for watching!
@humanbeing24206 күн бұрын
Maybe you should make this sort of video - the analysis of GM performance over a period of years, I mean - the main focus of your channel. Or maybe you already have....
@WhatsHappeningHockey5 күн бұрын
We started the channel back in January with only loose ideas in mind: Did some player comparison videos, a few covering trends in the NHL, some criticizing inconsistencies in rules/on-ice calls, etc. We were essentially throwing darts, rolling with different ideas and giving them our best shot. But once we released our Hextall video (which did very well by our standards), it became pretty clear that we're going to keep pursuing these GM videos. It kind of eliminates one part of the creative process: 'what should we make a video about?'. Nobody else seems to be making these kinds of analysis videos, but I find them really interesting. With every piece we release, I think we get a little bit better. It also helps us steer clear from the 'clickbait' type videos which a lot of hockey-youtubers seem to fall into. No judgement there, but it definitely isn't my style. So, to respond more directly: we are absolutely going to keep rolling with these videos. They have 100% become the main focus of this channel. Thinking about a potential rebrand to identify with that. We'll of course still release other types of videos here and there too; no need to limit ourselves entirely. But these videos are a lot of fun. Happy to see the response they're getting. Thanks for the feedback and for tuning in. It's much appreciated. Who knows where this might go, but at the very least, we're having fun doing it.
@markdurland53606 күн бұрын
Benning was brutal. Hughes fell in to their lap, Petterson was Brackett, Boeser was a good pick, Miller was probably his greatest move,...but the terrible signings, decisions and drafts,...Virtanen, Juolevi, Erickson, the Ekman Larson trade, ditching Gustav Forsling way too soon. Benning was inarticulate and simply not a bright man.
@mikepette44226 күн бұрын
Jim Benning was a disaster
@kosmicwizard7 күн бұрын
Jarrmo K, please?
@WhatsHappeningHockey5 күн бұрын
He'll come 100%. Pierre Dorion is up next on our list. But lots of people asking for Jarmo. Was worried he might not bring the same attention (solely because of the market he worked in) but a lot of people seem to be interested in him. Thanks for watching and stay tuned!
@CKsoundwave7 күн бұрын
Benning is the best gm and scout
@WhatsHappeningHockey7 күн бұрын
Lmao
@Seriously_Unserious7 күн бұрын
Benning's Achilles Heel really were the contracts. Benning could find good young players, sure, but those awful contracts would kill any player development because as soon as the young prospects are coming into their prime and having their big breakout season, they'd be up for a new contract and those Benning Contract Players would eat up so much of the cap that Benning would be unable to retain the talent the team had developed, resulting in those players going on to have great or at least good careers with other teams. Guys like Brendan Sutter and Rouselle were good bottom 6 checkers/energy players, but having a combined $8 mil of cap space tied up on just those 2 players meant not enough space for the other 4 bottom 6 players and some good top 6 players to round off the top of the lineup, often resulting in bottom 6 players having to play in the top 6 and has beens or not there yets rounding off the bottom 6. If those 2 players were only signed to contracts in alignment with their skills and roles, we'd have had a great pair of players to build a 3rd and 4th line around.
@WhatsHappeningHockey5 күн бұрын
Completely agree with what you're saying here. I do believe that 'rebuilding' was a constant focus during the Benning era... But after a sniff of success in his first year, I think a mentality of 'why can't we do both?' was adopted. It's a common theme we're seeing with a lot of these Canadian GMs. They get one little taste of success (making the playoffs or winning one round) and they instantly change gears, attempting to round-out their roster to stay competitive. Benning seemingly tried to accomplish that via free agency, which is especially boggling since he was SO BAD at it. And again, maybe there was hope that some of these signings would come in, have a good season, and make themselves attractive to other teams via a trade. But almost NONE of them worked out in that fashion. Poor assessment. Poor patience.
@Seriously_Unserious5 күн бұрын
@@WhatsHappeningHockey From what I heard, Fransisco Aquilini played a major part in that, as he was the driving force behind Benning not committing to a full rebuild, and Linden wanted that, as he saw it was necessary, and when Aquilini would not agree to a rebuld, and wanted to try and keep the team competitive by any means necessary, Linden left but Benning stayed on and tried to make it work. I'm sure he realizes that was a mistake in hindsight as he let himself get stuck in a no win situation. Those marching orders left him at a distinct disadvantage in free agency negotiations, as he had to make deals since he didn't have the assets to bring in talent via trades at the time. That led to those infamous contracts and losing many of our young talents as they had breakout seasons and left to free agency when there was no cap space to keep hardly anyone.
@francescoravenda50707 күн бұрын
Kyle dubas leafs 🤷🏼
@WhatsHappeningHockey5 күн бұрын
It will 100% be coming.
@codymachado7 күн бұрын
Im from ontario Im not a flames fan but i love watching those late night games, i remember that schlemko goal so well, after that game i traded for him in my gm mode and put him in the shootout line up hahah
@WhatsHappeningHockey7 күн бұрын
Truly one of the most random moments of brilliance I’ve ever watched live lol thanks for watching!
@GLrebirth7 күн бұрын
The OEL trade was bad 'keep my job' short term move. Canucks could have rid themselves of the Ericksson, Rousell and Beagle contracts after 1 year. They also gave up a 1st who became Guenther and had to buy out OEL which will last until 2029-30.
@twqc427 күн бұрын
A video on Jarmo Kekäläinen with Columbus would be interesting!
@WhatsHappeningHockey7 күн бұрын
I whole heartedly agree. We absolutely will get around to it, though I fear there may not be as big of an audience for it. But I hope im wrong! Stay tuned
@emperoralvis65597 күн бұрын
Don’t care if he created the core. His impatience, inefficient contracts, and poor trades and drafting will forever cement his legacy as a failure in Vancouver.
@canucksgoober7 күн бұрын
great choice with the background music 😁😁
@WhatsHappeningHockey7 күн бұрын
Little bit of Mac never hurt anybody
@bcscottj7 күн бұрын
The Benning era was completely bonkers in that most all of his moves were either home runs or complete disasters. lol
@bentencho7 күн бұрын
Eriksson was just super bad luck. Towards the end of his prime, but was always a strong 2-way winger who has put up 30+ goals. Regularly played with the Sedins internationally, and has done well with them. Unfortunate that all 3 steeply declined. Players always get old... but they just fell off a cliff. OEL was good on paper. A 2-way defenseman who probably should have gotten more Norris considerations just a few seasons prior. Stuck at the backwaters of the NHL in Arizona, minimal attention and a team that's regularly struggling.... thus never got the recognition he deserved. Unfortunately, Benning picked him up after he has had a series of injuries around his foot and also his knees, some that required surgery. For joints like the knee, it may take a few years before you get back to normal. The Canucks couldn't afford that time, considering his salary, thus were forced to buy him out. Overall, Jim Benning wasn't as bad as many made him out to be. The first 3-4 years were somewhat of a write-off as he had an aging team with the Sedins... and you can't just tank. Just see Pittsburg now and Chicago just a few years back. When you have franchise players in the twilight of their careers, you do your best to try to make the playoffs.
@unplugged1237 күн бұрын
it is common knowledge within Vancouver that Benning did not want to take Petersson and wanted Cody Glass and eventually fired the chief scouting director Judd Brackett and whomever disagreed with him surrounding himself with yes men. People still dont know what John Weisbrod did during his tenure as AGM for the Canucks.
@zestplays7 күн бұрын
I think you have this wrong Jim Benning isn’t responsible for the current core it was director of scouting at the time Judd Bracket who is responsible for the drafts Benning wanted Cody Glass but Judd said to take Petterson
@nickydastinks7 күн бұрын
Yeah but Benning has final say
@WhatsHappeningHockey5 күн бұрын
I've read the reports. Seen Linden's comments and etc. Also saw that Benning refuted those claims. But who knows? It's obvious that Linden and Benning's relationship soured. It's also obvious that ownership had a bit too much to do with roster transactions. It was a shit show behind the scenes which lead to a lot of pointing fingers. Benning was definitely the main victim in that; perhaps deservingly. I always try and take such claims with a grain of salt though. Similar shit happened in Pittsburgh with Ron Hextall and I'm inclined to believe a lot of those rumors... But I always preface them with the reality that it's just hear-say. Maybe some journalist with an unreliable source? Maybe someone trying to clear their own name? Who knows. Judd deserves credit too, 100%. In most of these videos I include a statement crediting scouting teams with equal-greater blame than the GM himself, but I think I failed to include it for this one. Regardless, thanks for watching. Appreciate the comment and perspective.
@thecedex7 күн бұрын
Dont forget drafting Kole Lind instead while Jason Robertson was available And while Baertschi for a 2nd is already mentioned, that 2nd turned out to be Rasmus Andersson Imagine if Vancouver had both Forsling and Andersson in their current dcore
@teebo52987 күн бұрын
3 teams gave up on him , cant really use that
@thecedex7 күн бұрын
@@teebo5298 and one of them is Benning. Among his many blunders.
@WhatsHappeningHockey5 күн бұрын
Alluded to Rasmus Andersson with some video of him I think, but maybe it wasn't clear enough. Regardless, as with almost ANY GM, there's a lot of 'what could have been'.
@teebo52985 күн бұрын
@@thecedex yea but I felt the owner at the time didn't want a rebuild hence all of Bennie's trades being pieces to slot in , car and chi blundered way more as he was actually playing
@thecedex5 күн бұрын
@@teebo5298 it's not about the direction but the execution. Even if Benning was forced to retool and not rebuild there's no excuse for 99% of his moves (exaggerating but you know what i mean) failing. Also we have seen teams retool successfully w/o having to do a full rebuild ... The New York Rangers is just one of the examples of not doing a rebuild to become a top team again.
@johnl62777 күн бұрын
Benning never wanted a full rebuild. He kept signing or trading for NHL ready players to field competitive teams instead of striping it down and get more great young talents. He drafted well with high picks but nothing much otherwise, and he made too many the desperate moves or overpaid for veterans that set the team backwards. The OEL trade was the ultimate dagger IMO, instead of holding onto his mistakes for one last season and letting the contracts expire. The 7 years (2014-2021) felt like the dark years in the late 90s.
@thisrandomvoice32147 күн бұрын
Bumbling Benning and his horrible trade moves and hamstringing contracts, worst Canucks GM EVER
@brandonworron16587 күн бұрын
Would love to see one of these on doug willson
@WhatsHappeningHockey5 күн бұрын
Adding him to the list. Will probably take some time; have other projects in mind. But we'll get around to him 100%. Pierre Dorion is up next. Thanks for tuning in though! Much appreciated.
@RLJ967 күн бұрын
Very good video, I will just want point out that the Vanek was all around good move by Benning. 1). Benning signed Vanek weeks before training camp, fairly late into free-agency for $2 million for 1 season (not over spending on UFA). 2). Vanek came in and produced at a top-6 rate on the team and he was a good mentor for Brock Boeser in his rookie season. 3). Benning traded him at the trade deadline in 2018 to Columbus. Yes, he did not acquire any prospects/draft picks. However, the main piece returning from this trade wasn't Jussi Jokinen (though he was actually pretty good in his short stint as a Canuck), Jokinen was just a contract/capspace coming back so Columbus has room for Vanek. The main piece of the trade was Tyler Motte. Motte became a solid bottom 6 and PK player for the Canucks over the next several seasons and he scored some big playoff goals for the Canucks in 2020 bubble playoffs. Motte was a solid pick up. I would say the Vanek situation from signing to trade was the best Jim Benning has done in both free-agency signing and asset management. If he was able to do this more instead of overpaying so many over the hill players in Beagle, Roussel and Eriksson etc. the Canucks would be in a lot better state.
@WhatsHappeningHockey7 күн бұрын
Fair enough point. Doing these videos is kind of an educational process. Admittedly I did not watch a lot of Tyler Motte, but I can understand how a player like him can be easily glanced over if you’re not actively paying attention.
@maqywhaq7 күн бұрын
Giving Benning credit for building the "next canucks roster" is forgetting that every single one of his moves were in service of making the team at the time better. He moved on from anyone he hadn't obsessed over(and overpaid to sign) and "future" improvements were always more of an afterthought/happenstance with him. If he hadn't traded out as many picks as he did to get "his guys" then signed them to overpaying contracts that would be bought out or moved with other trade assets, I would be more willing to give him a pass. As it stands, he could be counted to rush prospects or trade them for roster players that held scant potential growth for fill in gaps, then throw what was a strength(cap space) away to sign them to bloated contracts. Thank you Benning for reading out names on draft day when your draft department fought you over the picks and you lost out, but I am glad you are gone. Just wish ownership would get out of the way and let management cook(the Benning era saw them influencing management excessively and resulted in one of the longest, poorest performing periods in team history).
@roundnround3657 күн бұрын
Silovs-Benning Demko-Benning Hughes-Benning Miller-Benning Boeser-Benning Petey-Benning Myers-Benning Hoglander-Benning Benning's tenure operated under a tight Aquilini and with the aid of one AGM. Aquilini now has spent the wad and the Canucks are paying Rutherford, GM Allvin,AGM Granato,AGM Castonguay,Tallon. and AGM Johnson. Count 'em.
@unplugged1237 күн бұрын
silovs was a ian clark pick. hughes landed in bennings lap by sheer dumb luck. miller was a cap dump and at the time was an overpayment petey was not even a benning pick. he was a judd bracket and linden choice. which he eventually pushed both out of the front office. u give bumbling benning waaaaay too much credit. he deserved/deserves all the hate.
@roundnround3657 күн бұрын
You're the type of Canucks 'fan' that would confiscate Benning's Stanley Cup ring because of sheer ignorance and hatred.
@unplugged1237 күн бұрын
facts only hurt those faced with truth.
@roundnround3657 күн бұрын
@@unplugged123 Benning's Stanley Cup ring is a fact you can't face or accept. Silovs-Benning Demko-Benning Hughes-Benning Miller-Benning Boeser-Benning Petey-Benning Myers-Benning Hoglander-Benning Benning's tenure operated under a tight Aquilini and with the aid of one AGM. Aquilini now has spent the wad and the Canucks are paying Rutherford, GM Allvin,AGM Granato,AGM Castonguay,Tallon. and AGM Johnson. Count 'em.
@unplugged1237 күн бұрын
@@roundnround365 are u jim bennings mom? does having a stanley cup ring as an assistant make him perfect, infallible and always right? your reasoning is absolutely idiotic... by your logic peter chirelli must be the second coming of Jesus since he was the actual architect of that bruins team.
@Brian-bt2hi7 күн бұрын
Just think we could have had Cody glass instead of petey if it was up to benning
@tonykung87567 күн бұрын
JB made it out of so many drafts like a bandit. Pety, Demko, Hughes, Boeser were all top-end players drafted by Benning. He also stole JT Miller from Tampa...
@zestplays7 күн бұрын
Tampa he made that trade however the scouting decisions was predominantly made by director of scouting Judd Bracket Benning wanted Cody Glass he told them to pick Petterson so Benning isn’t entirely responsible for the success of drafting
@tonykung87567 күн бұрын
@@zestplays There was a behind the scenes vid of Benning super excited to draft Hughes after Detroit took Zadina. The man knew what he was doing. He deserved a ton of credit cuz whoever the Canucks want to draft, he’s one of the last ppl who signs off on it. Benning was just horrible at throwing excessive money on players who weren’t good. Lol
@casketbrain76977 күн бұрын
Nothing Wrong With The Way Tyler Myers Or Conor Garland Have Played
@maqywhaq7 күн бұрын
Sure, except Myers was signed to way too much money and Garland was the accompanying piece in the trade to balance the cap constraints. Both "sorta" worked out in hindsight, but neither were smart moves as both were done in a "win right now" mindset that would always hurt the team in the long run(OEL was already turning into a liability in Arizona, and Myers was at best a middle pairing D signing for first pairing money. Both ended up being mostly 3rd pairing level players until Tocchet took away the chaos giraffe's leash and reigned him into a more controlled game).
@alvin82877 күн бұрын
Virtanen was much worse than a bust
@WhatsHappeningHockey7 күн бұрын
No doubt. A funny story: 8 months ago I went to a pawn shop near my house and found a Jake Virtanen Canucks jersey priced at $100. In writing this video, I remembered this and went back to the store hoping to purchase the jersey cheap, assuming it was still there. So I walk in and sure enough there it is. 8 months later. Made an offer of $50. They wouldnt take it. Offered $60. Same deal. Explained his controversy and etc, but no dice. Hence the lack of a Canucks jersey in my background.
@anonreview24198 күн бұрын
great video
@WhatsHappeningHockey7 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@DJFlozone8 күн бұрын
Eriksson and OEL.
@DecisiveSniper98 күн бұрын
The Canucks could have been more successful if he chased more actual defenders and didn't have his center men playing defense. The Coaches he brought in kept forcing their defenders to play as wingers.... Then when they got rockem sockem players he traded them for a bag of marbles The combination of both of those left the stars vulnerable to look stupid Then he gave big contracts to the old folks on their way out of the league
@WhatsHappeningHockey7 күн бұрын
Completely agree. He really failed to identify talent in rounding out their roster. Horrible depth choices. Thanks for tuning in
@DecisiveSniper97 күн бұрын
@@WhatsHappeningHockey one of the biggest rules I hated from the Coaches is that if you fight during a game then you're riding the bench for the rest of the game... Its an interesting concept to protect your stars But when you cant protect your stars for real it defeats the purpose No fighting was a management rule Just like "no video games" (Identified by former Canucks who streamed before)
@user-bs8hq6bc6e8 күн бұрын
Benning was worst GM in the franchises history, the club will be paying for his mistakes for years to come still. Firing Benning was the best move Ive seen in 34 years of watching them
@WhatsHappeningHockey7 күн бұрын
I just dont understand where the long-term damage is at this point? Two years removed from his departure? No doubt Alvin and Rutherford have done a better job of rounding out the roster... But they inherited a team with great pieces. I think Benning deserves a bit of credit.
@sawyertuide76367 күн бұрын
@@WhatsHappeningHockeyThey’re still paying OEL, $2.6M next year, and $4.75M after that. But besides that, they wasted a lot of early years for the Core 5. New Orleans Saints fans can tell you lot about how much wasting years of Drew Brees hurt their team’s history.
@maqywhaq7 күн бұрын
@@WhatsHappeningHockey Benning also walked Toffoli and Tanev to free agency without bothering to talk to them as he chased an OEL deal. Stetcher was also waiting for an extension and was a good 3rd pair D at low cost. Some of those assets could've been held onto and would now require further asset expenditure to sign(Toffoli was especially bad, as he traded assets to get him. Tanev was getting a big dollar deal that made matching risky, so I'm inclined to give him the pass on Tanev at least). Overall, Benning was so far out of his depths in the GM role, that while he had some good drafts, it was mostly done when the picks were against his own instincts. His attempts to replace dissenting voices in management also hurt the team(Lawrence Gilman, Linden, among others). Benning was IMO an idiot scrambling to pretend he was a fit to be a GM.
@maxbolton52277 күн бұрын
@maqywhaq toffoli, tanev and stecher are all small potatoes compared to drafting and retaining the canucks core. Sure OEL was a mistake, but the cap space allowed players like garland and mikheyev to sign. Toffoli has shown again that he's willing to dip if not approached immediately with an extension offer, tanev had legitimate injury concerns and stecher is hardly an NHLer anymore, I saw him play at the dome as a flames fan. This canuck fan pessimism is taken way too far sometimes.
@JoMaisBure107 күн бұрын
@@maxbolton5227all Canucks fans would take Tofoli over Mikheyev.
@-TurboS8 күн бұрын
W video
@WhatsHappeningHockey8 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@chickenalaking13198 күн бұрын
Sam McMaster.
@ryukiT38 күн бұрын
Three GM's in Canucks history worked for 8 years. Two of them got the Canucks to game 7 of the Cup finals . Benning got one bubble playoffs. Also only one of the core he "acquired" was Miller. Other 4 were draft picks. props to scouting. And he didn't want to draft Petey. Benning wanted another Virtanen style player.😂😂 His staff had to fight him to get Petey . Benning is garbage.
@kelthebest-8 күн бұрын
Would love to see a Dale Tallon's Panthers video!
@codymachado7 күн бұрын
Same, as well as old man Lous devils team and the kovy fiasco.
@codymachado7 күн бұрын
Milburys Islanders as well
@Kingsy.8 күн бұрын
peter chiarelli/ken holland oilers
@irvinepoker31878 күн бұрын
I think Holland doing a better job than chiarrili so far lol
@Kingsy.8 күн бұрын
@@irvinepoker3187 no shit, he asked for gm to make a new video on
@WhatsHappeningHockey7 күн бұрын
@@Kingsy. Going to wait until Holland's tenure is over in Edmonton. Think that will be the standard moving forward, but that video will absolutely come. Chiarelli in EDM vs Chiarelli in BOS is a great idea though. Stay tuned.
@mduclosofficial8 күн бұрын
Make a video about the perpetual rebuild in Arizona / Utah
@WhatsHappeningHockey8 күн бұрын
I’ve been contemplating a piece on John Chayka recently. We have a few other ideas in the bank likely to take priority, but stay tuned. In the meantime, if you check out ‘Red Hot Hockey’, he recently did a video on the history of the Coyotes. Regardless, thanks for watching and have a good one.
@mduclosofficial8 күн бұрын
Need more of these
@WhatsHappeningHockey7 күн бұрын
They're comin. Thanks for your time and support!
@slaycra8 күн бұрын
As a Flames fan, many thanks to Benning (and Jarmo Kekäläinen) for Matt Tkachuk (though we all know Matt's in the process of winning his Cup in FLA now...GO Panthers). As we headed into that draft I was under the impression that, with the 6th pick, Calgary had no chance of landing this player, and I was happy to be proven wrong. As for GMs to evaluate, Peter Chiarelli please...the Edmonton model and the Boston edition.
@larry15418 күн бұрын
You should also thank Jim Ruthrford and Patrick Alvin for giving canuck's 2025 1st and 2nd picks to the flames for rentals. The gift that keeps on giving.
@unplugged1237 күн бұрын
dont forget we also gift wrapped rasmus andersson to the flames in a trade. also.. dumb dumb "ran out of time" and did not resign tanev
@RadMatt13378 күн бұрын
I wanna see Bill sussman next
@mixm8jer88810 күн бұрын
WE believed in him. But couldn't understand why he couldn't get the job done. Then all of the blunders. The nail in the coffin was that he could never admit when he was wrong or made a mistake.
@kellyzak237511 күн бұрын
Why the hell did they take Mason McDonald over Thatcher Demko in the second round? Demko was the number one ranked goalie in that draft and for good reason.
@user-qc5ve4qe9c11 күн бұрын
Ron Hextal always hated Pittsburgh. He was a Flyers goalie, and he detested the Pens.
@guitarmemoir12 күн бұрын
Treliving's major problem was he couldn't accurately evaluate the team. It led to all sorts of the problems he caused. Dealing draft picks like candy was a huge mistake for starters. But the one deal for picks I hated more than the others was the deal for Travis Hamonic. Despite Burke being burned in the Kessel deal, those two clowns didn't have the collective brain-power to to-10 protect the first rounder in that deal that ended up being Noah Dobson. Sh!t show.
@michaelmagic98813 күн бұрын
he did inherit a complete mess from john ferguson jr - one of the worst gm's in sports history