You have to stop with the corny writing...just say no to corn!
@SmarteeeSteve2 күн бұрын
My mainstay! They fly so sweet. Whether its a more stable or flippier one, gonna serve you well. All plastics suit this mold too
@seymourglass262 күн бұрын
Why not credit those "top athletes"? Kind of odd to dance around it. I thought the disc was the Toro, not the Matador.
@jacobl45972 күн бұрын
The Sidewinder is MONEY!!!
@jameswhite1703 күн бұрын
How does it's flight differ from Gator/Caiman? What scenarios would it be better for than those other 2?
@OkieTradez3 күн бұрын
did he say distance killing tailwind.. tailwind helps to give you more distance..
@dejvicerules3 күн бұрын
Not with OS disc though.
@CalebJF883 күн бұрын
Maybe they mean for beginner players? Tailwinds do make the disc more overstable, plus they probably would knock down a disc that's released nose-up
@SmarteeeSteve2 күн бұрын
@CalebJF88 Definitely! No wind gives me my longest throws. Still have yet to get nose down. Have tried pour coffee, turn key, bonopane grip, elbow higher than wrist. I just use flippy discs. Seem to get some nose down as they turn. Tailwinds reduce turn and make discs fall faster, so they make my throws stall and reduce distance
@OkieTradezКүн бұрын
@@SmarteeeSteve i got a hack for you bro.. put the disc ON your fingers nose down let it be comfortable WITHOUT using your thumb at all.. your thumb should NOT change anything to your grip.. i sued to grip with my thumb mainly now my thumb really does nothing and i throw nose down..
@SmarteeeSteveКүн бұрын
@OkieTradez Sounds like a plan! I get excited to try anything new Still have yet to throw goalpost-to-goalpost and I've been playing 20 + years. I think my strength is declining at about the same rate my technique is improving😅
@tycekissling23303 күн бұрын
In the Halo plastic, the Sidewinder is not -3 turn but it’s still a wonderful neutral to slightly understable driver
@OkieTradez3 күн бұрын
i have a champion one and i would say i can give it like 60% power on hyzer and it will pop to flat and cruise about 350ft but if i put full power on it the thing will turn into a roller from hyzer but straight from box no it wasnt flying that way was much more over stable!
@randysavage42973 күн бұрын
Halo makes it feel like a beat in TB
@SanDiegoDiscGolf5 күн бұрын
LOVE ME SOME TORO
@luchaunderground68305 күн бұрын
I have the nexus glow Toro. It's a beast on the forehand.
@Abcd124-g2v5 күн бұрын
We need more R-Pros please... I have not yet been able to try one
@ruschj005 күн бұрын
I wish the toro was a little shallower. I want it to replace my zone, but it just doesn't come out of my hand right on a forehand.
@nathanives61666 күн бұрын
I have a Star Toro and a Soft Pro Toro. The soft pro plastic is very soft so when it hits, it splats and stays in place. But I only use it for short upshot’s that need to stick. If I want to rip it 200+ feet then I use the Star Toro which is much stiffer.
@OkieTradez6 күн бұрын
i love my Champion Toro i use it for 200ft-250ft very trustworthy
@justinkolodziej56956 күн бұрын
Hmm...Can we have a Squirrel 3/6/-5/0 next? 😅
@Hsuperman186 күн бұрын
Rollo isn't good enough for you?
@justinkolodziej56955 күн бұрын
Heck no! The Squirrel needs Guts Disc levels of unpredictable insanity
@Hsuperman184 күн бұрын
@@justinkolodziej5695 the squirrel has the special ability to swerve into a tree at random
@DawsonFinger2 күн бұрын
I believe you're looking for a beat in DX Aero
@TherealPapaDogP6 күн бұрын
It’s been in the bag since it released. Right now I’m bagging an r-pro and a color glow from Calvin’s GLO win. I think it was GLO…
@OkieTradez6 күн бұрын
man im J i want a R-Pro Toro bad but dont wanna pay 50 haha
@johnrinehart88667 күн бұрын
Fine by me.
@InbredJed820607 күн бұрын
🗑️🗑️🗑️
@SmarteeeSteve7 күн бұрын
Might have to try one in premium plastic. Bought a base plastic one and it was incredibly flippy. Since I think premium plastic leopards are too OS for what I want from them, a premium IT could be just what the doctor ordered!
@DolphaysDiscGolf8 күн бұрын
@Innova please make the Gorgon in glow champion plastic!!!!
@jamessaldana88969 күн бұрын
My Aviar X3 will likely never leave my bag. I'm not sure how different this would be for me.
@NickCarroll9 күн бұрын
One of your best disc profiles! While I appreciate the humor of dad jokes, they can be a little over the top. 😂
@earthman80810 күн бұрын
Behold! Nary a Yeti sighting today. Makes howling noise.
@ericwalter294410 күн бұрын
Do the Aviar3 next!
@xmisterblackhatx10 күн бұрын
Great timing
@SanDiegoDiscGolf10 күн бұрын
Oh! This might be what I have been looking for… I have an aviar in base plastic, and it’s a great putter. Got it in a starter set. It’s similar to my p2, and Link…. I can switch out between the 3 putters in the same weight and putt pretty well… I was looking for something more soft, and with a bit more grip.
@SanDiegoDiscGolf10 күн бұрын
💪🏼🥏
@mr_nice_guy51512 күн бұрын
Never understood this one. If not Roc, why Roc shaped
@mattm829112 күн бұрын
absolutely amazing disc, I have one in star that's pretty beat, and a fresh champion, I prefer the star, it's just more versatile, holds nice annys without burning over, and also has enough stability to hyzer or hyzer flip, although I dont use it for sidearms at all, staple in my bag for sure. on a side note it reminds me of a manta. Innova bring back the manta!
@chrisdwarz12 күн бұрын
I was wondering when one of those beautiful shots was going in 😅
@NickCarroll13 күн бұрын
Fun fact about the Lion. The VRoc3 is the same mold that was later PDGA approved as the Lion. I have both and they are identical. The VRoc3 was never submitted to the PDGA under that name. Innova later submitted that mold as the Lion. It could have been retooled slightly, but I can't tell. It was only released for sale as a fundraiser disc for the 2015 USDGC, 2015 and 2016 Disc Golf European Masters. Second edition also was sold during the 2016 La Mirada Open. It was also used in The Järva DGP 25 years commemorative release in 2020. Another version was sold for the 2022 Santa Cruz Masters Cup. This mold was never in full production until it was released as the Lion. I presume this mold might have been considered for use by Discmania or other Innova-produced disc resellers, but it appears not to be used elsewhere. It's a great disc, and is essentially the replacement for the Shark3. If anyone has more trivia about it, please reply below. Thank you!
@cwm18013 күн бұрын
I'll add that the Infinite Ra is basically a more overstable Lion since it's a combination of a VRoc bottom and a RocX3 top.
@Ishiisan13 күн бұрын
so this one is betweein Roc3 and Mako3?🤔🤔
@MegaLaban1234513 күн бұрын
Yes. But the Jay is between the lion and mako3.
@Ishiisan13 күн бұрын
@@MegaLaban12345 that’s right! I forgot about that
@stephencarlson729713 күн бұрын
Pretty much. I find the lion really touchy on forehand tho. It doesn't handle the torque super great and will turn over pretty easily, but if you know it does that, it becomes pretty handy sometimes.
@jimmyjam-vc6rf12 күн бұрын
@@stephencarlson7297yeah I find forehanding midranges difficult in general. I pretty much stick to the toro or move up to teebird3 if any distance is needed. I never used a lion but I'm a huge fan of the mako3 and jay for backhand. I'm assuming this is the same thing if used on a windy day.
@wingslikeairplanesTV14 күн бұрын
These stamps get cheesier and cheesier for Innova every year. Like bad clip art.
@SanDiegoDiscGolf15 күн бұрын
Firebird 🎒🥏👍🏼
@jimmyzamora155915 күн бұрын
The Firestorm is a great disc! Very underrated and will absolutely amaze you on how much glide this disc has!
@Ryan_A_Eph3.815 күн бұрын
The Pig in this video flew beautifully. The one I bought was the meat hookiest thing Ive ever thrown. Like a slow tilt
@phastt16 күн бұрын
As long as it isn't as beefy as last years Halo. The color glows before last year were perfect.
@BenjaminEklof16 күн бұрын
One disc to rule them all
@huttonmoon16 күн бұрын
That’s a long title for a disc
@leadboots7216 күн бұрын
I have a well broken in F2 Gstar Thunderbird and it is the straightest flying disc I have ever thrown. It is also the 2nd longest flying disc. Bought it used 2 years ago for $6. It's my favorite driver out of about 60 that I own.
@jacobl459717 күн бұрын
Still haven’t held a protoglow disc . Curious to see how it feels and flys .
@calebbell558316 күн бұрын
More tacky and grippy
@aaronmayhew2.016 күн бұрын
And you never will ... Hahahahaha
@kuamvwj380117 күн бұрын
Every year they look worse and worse
@ericjepson376517 күн бұрын
If you can get Nate to dress up like a bird and make a music video I would buy one..
@kaurmannik201917 күн бұрын
So you like mvp?
@ericjepson376517 күн бұрын
@@kaurmannik2019 😒
@alitabattlechicken973217 күн бұрын
This disc is my max forehand bomber. Love it in champ plastic.
@OkieTradez17 күн бұрын
INNOVA we need you to put in Am vs Pro max distances on the discs please?
@edithkramer768917 күн бұрын
They do put the pro max distance on the Boss (1108 ft). Hope that helps.
@SebM7216 күн бұрын
@@edithkramer7689😂
@chuck-iv9zr18 күн бұрын
interdasting - maby it´s easier to determine target distances with the disc weaving around. must be good for ones with good wrist... you put in amount of power, you know when the disc is gonna switch direction .. too much power in pine-filled pipe zones ain´t gonna work. ´mounds affecting the disc rotation´ starting to like this hobby!!
@billthecrusher828318 күн бұрын
Needs more primate jokes 😂
@bassinassasin9018 күн бұрын
Mine flies more stable than my thunderbirds. Like 9-5-0-3 It’s like a glidey firebird.
@Exploitiv19 күн бұрын
Got this in 155g and it’s great
@Mdjagg19 күн бұрын
Innova's marketing team is either 80 year olds or 8 year olds, hard to tell.
@reecemorgan113819 күн бұрын
Starfire? When you gonna do a video on it?
@aaronmayhew2.019 күн бұрын
@@reecemorgan1138 I had two F2 153 gram DX Starfire's that were the most understable discs I've ever thrown. Miss those guys. So much fun. Rollers were easy