It's the other way round, as he says. Duotone kites traditionally* need bars with a very high Y, which you only get from Duotone or by getting a distributor thingy and mounting it on other bars to force a high Y. But it's even more annoying. Duotone changes Y height quite frequently, and line attachments and different kite sizes also have an impact, so for your kite to perform optimally, you may have to tune Y height. Or just go with whatever your setup gives you and live with minor suboptimality. * It seems that as of 2024 some of the Duotone kites now want low Ys, though I am not 100% sure about that.

@yxx_chris_xxy ah okay, a friend is selling an older duo kite and I didn't want to buy it if my core bar wouldn't work great with it

No hate btw but I really don‘t understand why so many people replace their bar with a new (probably same but different colored) bar... those bars have nearly not changed in the last years (seatbelt chickenloop excluded)

I love my swings in the waves and actually prefer v2. It’ll be fun to see how the v4 rides

Weird that no one mentions the weight. I have a smaller wheeled Mystic 150 and would change to fit surfs and kites, but weight matters.

Got the same! Also have several cabrinha kite's and bar, gonna try swapping them out with the core and north and see if I feel a difference

I would recommend the 7' 109L. A great blend of control, speed, and not too big not too small. Seems everyone demoing the one we have in stock love the size for a do it all board! Great wing foil too if you do that!

we were using the 1400 Seven Seas for newbs and light wind and Riding was done on the 1090 Eagle with 75cm HM Carbon mast.

probably some mic issue one wasnt on.

one of the mics bugged out on us. Sorry!

Both great kites. Machine has nice loft but no turning. The XR has great loft too but has more steering response. Give the kids a break we are just having a great time and sharing our feedback...

We are riding at the Marina in Hood River, Or. USA. It has the location of kickers and features for freestyle park action and good flat water spot. Thanks for sharing the stoke! Cheers

Thanks for the shout! :)

Glad you liked it! Thanks for sharing the stoke. Cheers, from Hood River, OR!

We did manage to loop the Machine, but it's slower in the loop but pulls you out further so you just have to send it a little bigger or maybe a larger bar would help. It was on a 17" so maybe the 20" would make it loop quicker but still probably not as fast as the XR8. XR catches the best but the Machine does well. You just have to dial it in a little for the rider.

keep the water bag in place. Or it will let the water out because the attachment loops will slide to one side or the other not hold water to hold the wing down.. Just put an overhand knot at the point were the line connects to the water bag.

Thanks for sharing the stoke, hope to see you soon in Hood River! Been a great summer so far :)

Not better wing just meant for different uses and people. Strike is a Freestyle, Lose and slippery like most advance riders like in extreme conditions. More nibble for 1480's... Faster upwind due to the nature of the wing but still just cutting hairs in half when it comes to which one performs better for the rider. If you're not jumping and spinning like a rocket I would go with the Swing.

Thanks for the feedback will get more riding with drone next time. I have a 2 person media team and limted time for videos so it can be hard to get everything in the video for you guys. We will try our best next time, thanks for watching.