Mrsangeandbella

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@JasonQiuMusic 21 күн бұрын

Ugh what a disastrous final for China...Zhang Nan and Li Ya are spectacular gymnasts

@oksana295 25 күн бұрын

ponor should have won by miles

@albarjas8360 29 күн бұрын

Ridiculous that just the dismount worths .5 🙄

@stereotypea123 Ай бұрын

ughhhhhh im not mad that Ponor won but the fact that it's SO CLOSE is what gets me

@artur3363 Ай бұрын

❤❤❤

@artur3363 Ай бұрын

❤❤❤

@thesovgc Ай бұрын

What is the name of the skill after the switch side in Eremia's routine? Some sort of Shushunova variation? It seems to have gone by the wayside in recent decades. ETA: It looks like it wasn't named for anyone. I'm curious who did it first?

@thesovgc Ай бұрын

I'm surprised Annia's DTY scored that high. Her chest was wayyyyy down.

@TaurusWitch29 Ай бұрын

I've been following gymnastics forever but I'm having a brain fart, what's DTY? I've been listening to try and hear words that match and explain, but maybe I'll get an answer before I figure it out? Lol

@thesovgc Ай бұрын

@@TaurusWitch29 double twisting Yurchenko

@TaurusWitch29 Ай бұрын

@@thesovgc that's awesome, thank you 😆

@thesovgc Ай бұрын

Our beloved Anya Pavlova's sole individual World or Olympic medal 😥

@rowan64official Күн бұрын

I know 😢 I liked her so much. I don't understand how she didn't get more 😮

@thesovgc Ай бұрын

Sofronie and Kozich had my favorite routines. Kate's was also great.

@tambam6744 2 ай бұрын

Pavlova barely deserved bronze, let alone silver as her demented fans will spam and parrot endlessly.

@thesovgc Ай бұрын

Demented? 😭

@andreid.8568 Ай бұрын

Lurking again in the shadows, bam? How's that died working? Still three chins?

@thesovgc Ай бұрын

@@tambam6744 if Pavlova has one fan, I am him.

@tambam6744 Ай бұрын

@@thesovgc You are one of the more tame fans.

@thesovgc Ай бұрын

@@tambam6744 the videos I've made about her don't feel tame 😂

@tambam6744 2 ай бұрын

Annia Hatch the beautiful ❤️

@bethanycook8430 2 ай бұрын

U know the North Korean gymnast was punished we she back

@thesovgc Ай бұрын

She was the reigning World silver medalist. Both her vaults were a bit off here. I feel like Zamo was lowballed a bit. Too bad she went first.

@bethanycook8430 2 ай бұрын

Were the chinese girls underage here?

@tambam6744 2 ай бұрын

Probably so.

@thesovgc Ай бұрын

Cheng Fei definitely was

@OsirisDiaz-bs4wq 2 ай бұрын

Anna Pavlova es tan hermosa❤👏👏👏👏

@tarastreasure 2 ай бұрын

Haha. Funny how the commentator said Sofronie's town should be Khorkina's because it's 'diva'. Deva is pronounced deh-va, though, but nice subtle irony there. 😅

@angelkitten27 2 ай бұрын

The height that first vaulter got is incredible

@EliasCoronado-lm8qr 2 ай бұрын

Le robaron la medalla a Cheng Fei Ella merecía el oro Mejor ejecución y mayor dificiltad

@user-zm3qr1pz8v 2 ай бұрын

Monica Roșu superbă execuție, superbă sportivă a gimnasticii feminine românești.❤❤❤❤❤❤❤🎁🙏🌼

@user-zm3qr1pz8v 2 ай бұрын

Mariana Bitang antrenoare de la Dumnezeu.❤❤❤❤❤❤❤💯💎🎁🥇🏆💋🌹❤️🎯💋🌹⚜️🗝️🙏

@Lovememore231 3 ай бұрын

Where is video 6?

@SociallyDistantnow 3 ай бұрын

Jesus, Paul Sunderland is so negative.

@seansean681 2 ай бұрын

He should have just let Shannon Miller do all of the commentating lol

@user-hk5iq6xg9j 3 ай бұрын

That girl is liu hou from guangdong

@edit549inspo 4 ай бұрын

pavlova should have been in silver

@tambam6744 2 ай бұрын

She did not deserve silver. Now go cry somewhere else, preferably offline.

@MarioSalinas-ug5pg 4 ай бұрын

Me gustaria ver compiticion con mexicanos

@saragrant9749 Ай бұрын

Mexico hasn’t seemed to produce many gymnasts, which is really unfortunate. Alexa Moreno did get a world medal for them though!!

@user-rj2qj3nt3r 4 ай бұрын

🇨🇳🇺🇸❤❤❤

@user-xx1ou7fc3p 4 ай бұрын

Patricia morenos opening tuble is amaaazing

@saragrant9749 4 ай бұрын

Only medal for Spain on the women’s side to date, am I right?

@user-xx1ou7fc3p 4 ай бұрын

@@saragrant9749 you are correct!

@saragrant9749 4 ай бұрын

@@user-xx1ou7fc3p I really hope that changes eventually. I remember Spain having some great gymnasts- Patricia and Elena Gomez in particular- but haven’t seen much in a while. I’m assuming it’s probably a lack of funding and infrastructure that has limited their opportunities.

@Beargeek616 5 ай бұрын

Kupets should have been 3rd.

@elvisesteban4651 4 ай бұрын

So many errors.

@Paylala 4 ай бұрын

Uh definitely not lmao. Alexandra's routine was quite obviously better. Kupets ended very strong but there were way too many errors in the first portion of her routine and a perfect dismount doesn't right those wrongs.

@rolandgreen7484 4 ай бұрын

@@Paylala plus Kupets had only a 9.8 start value

@saragrant9749 4 ай бұрын

Start value hurt her and she had some errors. Score was fair, definitely not a medal worthy routine.

@rolandgreen7484 4 ай бұрын

@@saragrant9749 what was different about her routine from Nationals content wise, as I know she had a 10 start value for sure at Nationals. Did she take something out or move something around? Since at the Games she was out of only a 9.8 each beam routine she did.

@user-zu3uf3uc7t 5 ай бұрын

Хоркина класс!!!❤❤❤❤

@hugodaniel8975 5 ай бұрын

Great

@gymdecoder 5 ай бұрын

Lin Li's start value should have actually been a 9.5 as follows: DV Bonus * D x 6 ('Lin' pirouette, 'Ling' pirouette, piked Jaeger, Pak salto, Markelov/Khorkina, double layout dismount) Total DV Bonus - 0.60 * Notes 1. Lin Li submitted the 'Lin' pirouette at the 2004 Olympics and it was awarded D value. This is further confirmed by the 9.9 SV she received at the 2004 World Cup Final. If the 'Lin' had been given an E rating, she would have had a 10.0 SV in that competition. 2. The 'Ling' pirouette was under Element 5.407, a D element. CV Bonus D + D x 3 ('Lin' pirouette + 'Ling' pirouette, 'Ling' pirouette + piked Jaeger, piked Jaeger + Pak salto) Total CV Bonus - 0.30 SR 1. Bar change from low bar to high bar, minimum B value - hect vault to high bar mount 2. Bar change from high bar to low bar, minimum B value - Pak salto 3. Flight element with regrasp to same bar, minium B value - piked Jaeger or Markelov 4. One element from Group 3(clear hips), 6(stalders), or 7(circle swings and hects), minimum C value - Missing (usually fulfilled with toe-on shoot to high bar) 5. Dismount, minimum D value - double layout Base Score - 8.80 - 0.20 Missing SR + 0.60 DV Bonus + 0.30 CV Bonus = 9.50 SV I believe the judges also incorrectly awarded credit for SR #4 at the 2003 World Championships during both team finals and event finals. In Anaheim, she was credited with a 9.9 SV in event finals. However, if she had enough bonus for a 10.0 SV, the maximum SV she could have while missing one SR would be a 9.8. Therefore, it appears she was credited with performing 5.302 / front giant to handstand with 1/1 turn in handstand and the judges awarded the SR by mistake.

@ChainChomp2 5 ай бұрын

Actually a pretty rare video; never seen this version of NBC's broadcast of the 2004 FX EF before, all we've really had on KZfaq for years was the women's AA.

@poshbo 4 ай бұрын

Shannon Miller's commentary is much better than Elfie's; Miller is less sensationalist and more technical and tries to actually explain the scoring system

@Exodus004 13 сағат бұрын

@@poshbo She's my favorite commentator ever

@TheRobertoburgos1999 5 ай бұрын

More of these thank you .!!!

@josuecastaneda6032 5 ай бұрын

Annia was sooo overscore !!!

@PeirsolFan2 5 ай бұрын

Only she wasn’t….

@saragrant9749 4 ай бұрын

The only reason you’re saying that is because she was American, nothing else. She performed extremely well and EARNED her silver medal, get over yourself.

@josuecastaneda6032 4 ай бұрын

@@saragrant9749 hahaha ! If u say so …

@saragrant9749 4 ай бұрын

@@josuecastaneda6032 you have proven that with many other derogatory comments, ALWAYS about Americans. Your blatant bigotry and bias is out there for all to see.

@user-tu6jk4tv6m 3 ай бұрын

Yes

@ivancervi1825 5 ай бұрын

Monica Rosu was simply of another level❤

@saragrant9749 4 ай бұрын

That was an insane Amanar.

@PeirsolFan2 5 ай бұрын

Based on her DTY, I’m always shocked by how good Rosu’s Amanar was. It was a good DTY, but wouldn’t make you think her Amanar would be as good as it was.

@liceous 5 ай бұрын

Li Shanshan got picked only after straightening her teeth meanwhile Deng Linlin was like missing half her baby teeth? 💀💀💀💀

@singsongeric 5 ай бұрын

Such a messy EF, most of the girls didn't achieve a 10.0SV and just about everyone performed worse than they did in qualification.

@saragrant9749 5 ай бұрын

This scoring system was complete rubbish. Super clean tumbling was completely ignored in favor of only dance elements. As a result you had a gold medal for clean dance and some of the worst tumbling form I’d seen in a long time. Thank goodness that system is long gone and BOTH are valued equally.

@dawnbaswell1853 5 ай бұрын

Agree

@poshbo 4 ай бұрын

I disagree, this COP did value big tumbling, it's just that very few gymnasts were doing big tumbling back then. Four super E tumbling runs would have been enough to get 10 SV, with no need for any tricky dance elements. Biles would have easily gotten there. And once an element was credited, the execution deductions weren't actually that harsh, certainly less harsh than today. The tough part was that compared to the 2000 COP, it suddenly became much harder to get to 10 with more regular tumbling, so the overwhelming majority of gymnasts (who didn't have huge tumbling) had to do the hard dance elements, which they were mostly not used to. In many way this was quite a fair COP, you could get to 10 with big tumbling or dance, or both, there actually was room for variety. But the hard cap of 10 would have prevented somebody from doing big tumbling and hard dance and overall pushing the difficulty like the could today

@saragrant9749 4 ай бұрын

@@poshbo only to you. Countless individuals- coaches, athletes, fans and even most judges did not find this code at all well constructed or thought out. It was not in any way sensible or logical in design. It is EXACTLY why the open ended system was created, and good riddance to it.

@poshbo 4 ай бұрын

@@saragrant9749 no, read my comment. I didn't say I prefer this COP to the open ended one. I just disagree with your opinion that in the COP tumbling didn't matter and it was only about dance, that's clearly not the case. Like I said, if gymnasts were all doing super E level tumbling backin 2004 then nobody would have needed the tricky dance. The COP would have rewarded the big tumbling and would not have penalised execution too much, you only need to look at the somewhat sloppy tumbling by Ponor and Dos Santos (in QF) go see that once a tumbling element was credited, the deductions weren't that harsh. But the hard cap of 10 SV didn't promote further pushing to difficulty and innovation

@jsully7712 5 ай бұрын

who is the male commentator lmfaoooo he has 0 clue what’s going on

@ChainChomp2 5 ай бұрын

Paul Sunderland (he's named at 15:08, but at first I thought it was someone else). The only other time I recall him commentating gymnastics was the 2009 American Cup with Tim and Elfie. In fairness this was a play-by-play role and he's better known for commentating basketball on ESPN or winning Olympic gold in men's volleyball with the US team in 1984; his Wikipedia article doesn't even mention gymnastics commentary.

@simonealexander7313 5 ай бұрын

Sigh - Hollie's floor. I think this was the only time she did a double layout?

@Mrsangeandbella 5 ай бұрын

Not sure - I feel like we may have seen it at least one other time, but maybe not! The double spin to penche at the start, though❤

@jjs5056 5 ай бұрын

@@Mrsangeandbella I remember seeing the Double Layout in a grainy video from maybe a Jr. National meet or something... I remember the rest of the tumbling was pretty weak (maybe a Back Layout 1/1 in there?). She did the Double Turn to Scale in the routine, too, but I don't think it was as beautifully controlled as it was in this video!!

@fishtail1129 5 ай бұрын

I wish Dos Santos would have learned to absorb landings! She had so much power but was always so bouncy. Simone was a lot like that especially early in her career, but her difficulty made it not as big of a deal. In the 10.0 era one step OOB was catastrophic.

@dawnbaswell1853 5 ай бұрын

Yes, but Simone's form is way better The brazilians

@ChainChomp2 5 ай бұрын

She did control them but only "most of the time", sadly it wasn't *enough* of the time or when it mattered most. Meanwhile in the 2008 final she did the opposite; did well to control her first two and most difficult elements, but lost control on landing her third and fourth. At the very least she has the World gold from the year before Athens and did well enough to inspire gymnasts like Andrade.

@poshbo 4 ай бұрын

Dos Santos would have benefitted from better routine composition, such as using punch fronts or jumps and leaps to help with her landings and get CV. Even without going OOB, all the small shuffle steps added up

@Rodriigoreis 5 ай бұрын

Cheng Fei deserved the gold. Overscored the Catalina Ponor

@saragrant9749 5 ай бұрын

Unfortunately Cheng stepped out of bounds. I absolutely agree that Ponor was way overscored though- especially with her abismal twisting form.

@randomedits7325 5 ай бұрын

unfortunately other than the triple twist ponors routine had minimal errors and the triple would have only endured 0.05

@saragrant9749 4 ай бұрын

@@randomedits7325Pbnor had god awful tumbling form but clean dance- an extreme highlight of the travesty of that scoring system. Only her last tumble was pretty much clean. You’ll notice in the future her tumbling form started getting hammered as it should have been. Her beam was where she shined with clean form.

@poshbo 4 ай бұрын

@@saragrant9749 Actually her double twisting tuck jump was a bit questionable but she covered it up with choreo. Her tumbling form wasn't that bad here. Later in her career her triple twist form deteriorated though and became costly

@ju5384 5 ай бұрын

O primeiro grande Amanar pós invenção de Simona. Monica simplesmente arrasou.

@marcuscoyle792 5 ай бұрын

Lolll all the tuck jumps and tour jetes

@mrparts 5 ай бұрын

Those tuck jumps and the cat leaps of that cycle were so awkward .

@poshbo 4 ай бұрын

It's interesting how much dance elements have evolved since then; these days almost all floor workers can perform D+ spins which would have made it much easier to get a 10 SV.

@alissonsouza8907 5 ай бұрын

Daiane com um nível de dificuldade absurdo ❤

@dawnbaswell1853 5 ай бұрын

Yes but ugly form

@kaybay5210 5 ай бұрын

@@dawnbaswell1853 her form was not bad except for her first pass which was ok. her main problem was the landings

@saragrant9749 4 ай бұрын

She would have benefited from the open scoring system with the crazy difficulty she had.

@matthewhines9787 5 ай бұрын

Gah! Watching Cheng Fei guts me every time! Just...everything we wanted in a floor routine, only to screw up EF twice.

@mrparts 5 ай бұрын

I found it funny that while she never got an Olympic medal in her main event- the floor exercise, she ended up getting an Olympic medal in the event that no one thought she had any chance : beam. 🤷🏻‍♂️

@allandiasx 4 ай бұрын

If only floor's EF was like the Team finals. Still hurts!@@mrparts

@saragrant9749 4 ай бұрын

Her and Dos Santos both had Olympic champion potential… but inconsistency just seemed to derail them both. Cheng still became a legend though with her eponymous vault!!

@matthewhines9787 4 ай бұрын

@@mrparts Well...she shouldn't have IMO. That was Pavs bronze. I also find it amazing that she fell on the easiest tumbling pass in her routine while the other 3 main passes were flawless. She fell on the pass that no one thought she'd ever have issues with.

@matthewhines9787 4 ай бұрын

@@saragrant9749 My problem with dos santos is that I'd never have credited her with a laidout position in the first pass. Kennedy Baker at Florida had a more stretched position. As a judge I'd either have to give her a stretched position credit but deduct her form so much it woulddn't make a difference, OR call her second pass a repeated skill and take those deductions along with the execution ones. Had she done the passes she did in Anaheim, she could've stayed in-bounds and won. I adore Catalina, but her routine only won because it was relatively stylish and the skills were performed with mechanical precision.

@kaybay5210 5 ай бұрын

Daiane <3

@ewertonfeliciano5688 5 ай бұрын

Thank you very much.

@amyg4115 5 ай бұрын

Why was Mohini scored so low?

@mrparts 5 ай бұрын

Low start value

@matthewhines9787 5 ай бұрын

On her best day on floor, which happened to be qualifications, she only had a 9.9 start value. She was always coming up short on her dance skills, but randomly on qualification day, she made her Gogean leap and the double twisting tuck jump skills. Call it adrenaline or whatever, but that routine just seemed sharper and the dance skills were rotated just an extra 1/4 turn than they were at trials or in this EF. Even she said she thought it was funny that she made finals in floor because she thought it was her weakest going in because the dance skills were usually not steady or balanced.

@dawnbaswell1853 5 ай бұрын

Because we weren't as respected back then as we are now. They got low balled back then

@dawnbaswell1853 5 ай бұрын

And the romanians were overscored back then

@ChainChomp2 5 ай бұрын

Her exercise was only credited with a 9.7 SV. I remember reading a comment on a video of her exercise from the now-removed ciciginastica channel that doing a 2.5 punch front would've been a more reliable way to earn the bonus tenths for a D connection rather than attempting a Popa+double tuck jump, which she rarely completed properly, so in a way her exercise's very construction had doomed it from the start.

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