What makes you say that?

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and then they complain about other communities shoving their ideas down their throats

somebody doesn't like the Mavericks I guess

Yes but it’s just the music the stereotypes are original

We need more people like that😂

thats the people who (hopefully) had deep relationships with God

Amen!

True, but we see the levitical requirement that only blood can atone for sin. That's why we see Jews in the old testament having to sacrifice over and over for their sins. They were commanded by Law. God's covenant. Jesus ( God ) was not required to atone for our sins, you are correct. But doesn't that just show God's love for us? If Jesus is God, then He had the authority to make a new covenant with His people, thus no requirement for daily sacrifices. If Jesus wasn't God, then he had no authority to atone for our sins.

@@ShermTank18 I get that we need blood atonement for our sins. I get that it was an act of love for God to send his only begotten son to die for us(John 3:16) I don’t get why Jesus had to be God to have the authority to atone for our sins. No scripture states that requirement. God gave Jesus that authority. Furthermore, as China points out, not a single scripture explicitly states that Jesus is the Almighty God.

@@stayyoungmyfriends If Jesus is not God, how is his blood sufficient? Let me point you some scriptures that make it very clear :) Scripture specifying Jesus as God: John 10: 30 John 1:17-18 Colossians 2: 9-10 John 10:33 John 5:18 John 1:1 leads right into John 1:14 "The Word became flesh and dwelt among us" John 8: 57-58 1 John 5:20 (I can go on) Scripture specifying the Trinity: Matthew 28: 19 2 Corinthians 13:14 After looking at those, and to answer your question about why, I want you to read the entire chapter of Hebrews 10 which explains why Jesus sacrifice was sufficient! It's really good stuff :) We are called to wrestle with scripture. I believe that's what China is doing :) what I love about the Bible is that we can test it and it does not come back void. I think his argument here is, just because China has a platform. She would be wise to at least wrestle with Scripture by asking questions, seeking truth while not shaking foundational truth for many believers her age. the trinity is a mystery, sure but scripture is very clear that Jesus was God. We can't be loose on these foundational doctrines. Either Jesus is Lord of all, or He is no lord at all. I'll finish with this, my friend: Acts 20:28 - Keep watch over yourselves and all the flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers. Be shepherds of the church of God, which He bought with his own blood" Love you, Clayton! I pray that this would help you see a little more clearly on the issue :)

@@ShermTank18 Yes, his blood is sufficient by the mere fact that as a perfect sinless human being he died for all of us. Romans 6:23 ---------------------------- None of the verses you have given explicitly state Jesus is the Almighty God(Yahweh). One has to perform a fair amount of eisegesis into every single one of those scriptures to come the conclusion that Jesus is Almighty God. ---------------------------- On John 10:30 you only have to look at John 17:21 for what is meant here. They are one in purpose. Otherwise you would be claiming that Christ's followers are also part of the godhead ---------------------------- John 1:17-18 Depends on which translation you are looking at. For example KJV: No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him. I will grant you that some Bible translations use "God", some use "Son". A large number of the Church Fathers, such as Irenaeus, Clement and Tertullian, quoted the verse with “Son,” and not “God.” . Even if the original text reads “God” and not “Son,” that still does not prove Jesus is the Almighty God. The word “God” can be used to represent divine authority (John 10:34,35) ---------------------------- On Colossians 2: 9-10 look at 2 Peter 1:4. We too as Christians are given the opportunity to participate in the divine nature. God gave Jesus the authority to heal, cast out demons, and forgive sins, so it does make sense that he has the fullness of God's divine nature. His apostles also had that divine nature when they performed miracles like healing the sick and casting out demons. Reflecting God's nature does not make one Almighty God. ---------------------------- John 10:33 Consider the source of the accusations of blasphemy . The Pharisees where trying all they can to kill Jesus who posed a threat to their authority. So, it was not beyond them to level false charges against Jesus. Plus if you read further in John 10:36, Jesus clearly points out that he was not claiming to be Almighty God, but he was claiming to be " the Son of God". Jesus himself did not say "I am God". ---------------------------- John 5:18 See above on John 10:33. They were making false accusations against Jesus. Why trust the accusations of people who were out to kill Jesus by all means necessary(including making up false blasphemous claims)? Jesus never stated that he was equal to God. ---------------------------- John 1:1 What does logos mean? It's used in several other places to have several meanings(account, appearance, book, command, conversation, eloquence, flattery, grievance, heard, instruction, matter, message, ministry, news, proposal, question, reason, reasonable, reply, report, rule, rumor, said, say, saying, sentence, speaker, speaking, speech, stories, story, talk, talking, teaching, testimony, thing, things, this, truths, what, why, word and words.) Why is John 1:1 the only place we choose to interpret it to mean Jesus? God's word or Logos in John 1:1 simply means God's utterance(similar to Psalms 33-6-9) And yes God's utterance did become fulfilled by the birth of Jesus Christ as laid out in John 1:14. Furthermore if the word/logos is Jesus and God is the father in John 1:1, it would read as "In the beginning was the Jesus(2nd person in the Trinity), and the Jesus(2nd person in the Trinity) was with the Father(Ist person in the Trinity), and the Jesus(2nd person in the Trinity) was (Ist person in the Trinity)." That would directly contradict the Trinity Doctrine! ---------------------------- John 8: 57-58 There are several instances throughout the Bible where the phrase "I am" is used. Are we saying in every single instance that "I AM" is used, that everyone using that phrase is Almighty God? Furthermore we clearly see why they were trying to stone him from John 8:53. For making himself greater(and older) than Abraham. Not for claiming to be Almighty God. ---------------------------- 1 John 5:20 Who is the "Him who is true" ? It's very clear it is the Father not the son. The Son comes to give us understanding so that we might know "Him who is true." Jesus has come to give us understanding of the Father that we might know God the Father through His Son. The verse also mentions "we are in Him who is true, in HIS son Jesus Christ. " Here we see that Him who is true has a son named Jesus, "HIS son Jesus Christ." So clearly 1 John 5:20 is referencing the Father as being the one "who is true". ---------------------------- Matthew 28: 19 The baptismal formula is not a statement of the Trinity doctrine. Does it say these 3 are coequal, coeternal persons that make up one being? Furthermore, where else is the baptismal formula used in the Bible? Whose name did disciples end up baptizing? Jesus? Yahweh? ---------------------------- 2 Corinthians 13:14 In essense, this is like claiming that because we mention Peter, Paul and Mary in one sentence that that somehow makes them one being. Again this does not state the Trinity doctrine. You have to infer it into this scripture. ---------------------------- Hebrews 10 That is exactly my point! I do agree with you that Jesus' sacrifice was sufficient for my salvation! He did not need to be God for my salvation and there is no need for a belief in a Trinity doctrine for my salvation. ---------------------------- You have yet to show a scripture that explicitly states the Trinity doctrine or says that Jesus is the Almighty God. You have agreed that Jesus sacrifice alone(without having to be God) is sufficient for my salvation. Further proving China's point.

And where have you obtained your understanding of John 1:1?

And very close to the Mormon and Islam.. ...denying Jesus' deity

@@clkasozi2954 Wow. What a comment. “Very close” JW, Mormon and Islam Are you mentally aware of how Islam even views Jesus other than not recognising Jesus for what he clearly isn’t- which is part of the false Trinitarian?