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@christianras259
@christianras259 10 сағат бұрын
Slap and stretch which is which please explain
@elizabethG633
@elizabethG633 9 күн бұрын
It is my understanding you must start the machine and set your grind before you start adding the grains.
@Lilione111
@Lilione111 22 күн бұрын
I would have thought to preheat the oven & then bake in the cold Dutch oven. Has anyone tried it this way?
@vegpatchkitchen
@vegpatchkitchen 22 күн бұрын
Be careful that the heat shock doesn’t crack or damage your Dutch oven if you put a cold DO into a very hot oven. The beauty of the cold oven is it allows the bread to rise a bit more whilst the DO heats up.
@Lilione111
@Lilione111 22 күн бұрын
@@vegpatchkitchen thanks for answering. Think I’ll just try cooking longer with the lid on or use another pot that can handle being put in a preheated oven. I get a nice crust, but the inside always needs a bit more cooking. That’s why I thought of putting in cold, so it takes longer to create a crust.
@vegpatchkitchen
@vegpatchkitchen 22 күн бұрын
@@Lilione111 trying longer with the lid on is a good idea.
@TheAnthonyBrandi
@TheAnthonyBrandi 23 күн бұрын
ive been trying to make bread at home but never wait long enough for the yeast to rise i think. its always so dense. i keep trying tho. soon ill get it. my gf recently took a class with her mom on sour dough and i though that was really cool because i we could share our new hobby together. it went horrible. not the bread but we just bickered the whole time about stupid stuff like hot or cold oven. its called a dutch oven and i figured all ovens need to preheat. my logic. her logic was, "its not on this instruction sheet from class so, no Anthony's wrong. im like does it say to use it cold? nope, so whats your logic again nae? oh then a fly landed on the starter jar and she had a meltdown. safe to say i wont be baking any bread with my gf.
@cheihyin10
@cheihyin10 Ай бұрын
Why is my dough hard to stretch even though I perform my first set of stretch and fold?
@tobythurber846
@tobythurber846 Ай бұрын
This was THE BEST video about adding inclusions to bread. I’ve recently taken up sourdough, and my first attempt at inclusions led to a WONDERFUL loaf thanks to this :) thanks for keeping the video short and making it so easy to follow!
@vegpatchkitchen
@vegpatchkitchen Ай бұрын
I am very pleased to help.
@cheihyin10
@cheihyin10 Ай бұрын
Hi usually I rest my dough for 30mins after stretch and fold. How to know exactly when should I perform my stretch and fold?
@vegpatchkitchen
@vegpatchkitchen Ай бұрын
It’s very flexible to fit in with you but at least 10 mins. I usually leave it for 30 mins but it can be up to an hour if I am busy. The dough is happy to wait.
@cheihyin10
@cheihyin10 Ай бұрын
Hi my dough is not that stretchable especially the 3rd and 4th stretch. Hardly can stretch 😢
@vegpatchkitchen
@vegpatchkitchen Ай бұрын
Your flour might have a higher protein amount than mine or try a little bit more water for the next dough.
@cheihyin10
@cheihyin10 Ай бұрын
Hi every time when I do each set of stretch and fold ,the third and 4th it’s very hard to stretch ,should I still finish or just stop stretching my dough?
@vegpatchkitchen
@vegpatchkitchen Ай бұрын
When it gets hard to stretch that’s when you stop. The dough is telling you it’s had enough stretching. Let it rest for at least 10 minutes before you try again.
@petergoulding2421
@petergoulding2421 Ай бұрын
I do this too and after a couple of bakes the bread tastes wonderful.I take my paté fermente ( 200 grms for 1kg flour) from the dough after the bulk first prove and it keeps for a week in a sealed plastic box.
@BlanCamCZ
@BlanCamCZ Ай бұрын
Thanks a lot for this video, especially the information at the end is very helpful! I started baking homemade bread and experimenting with flour recently and it happened to me several times that the bread sliced ​​while warm looked undercooked. I couldn´t figure out why, which was frustrating. Now I see all I have to do it let the loaf cool! :) Thanks and greetings from the Czech Republic!
@vegpatchkitchen
@vegpatchkitchen Ай бұрын
It does make a huge difference to the final texture. Thanks for the kind comment.
@moumitabatabyal865
@moumitabatabyal865 2 ай бұрын
Could we use cheese cloth instead , to prevent the loaf from sticking?
@vegpatchkitchen
@vegpatchkitchen 2 ай бұрын
Yes absolutely, just make sure to flour it well.
@nathanaelmoses438
@nathanaelmoses438 2 ай бұрын
Hello can I ask why you haven’t added yeast to this bread?
@vegpatchkitchen
@vegpatchkitchen 2 ай бұрын
Hi, I do use 5g easy bake yeast in this loaf
@Troopmomy68
@Troopmomy68 2 ай бұрын
I am new to milling, tried to fine grinding and my mill was getting stuck with fine flower flakes, I will try double milling. Thank you.
@Troopmomy68
@Troopmomy68 2 ай бұрын
How do you align dots to the correct coarseness after cleaning stones. Thanks
@tiffcat1100
@tiffcat1100 2 ай бұрын
They serve hot fresh fougasse in one of the troglodyte (caves) restaurants near Saumur in France, served with options of goats cheese, butter, rillettes etc 😊
@vegpatchkitchen
@vegpatchkitchen 2 ай бұрын
Oh heaven!
@tiffcat1100
@tiffcat1100 2 ай бұрын
@tiffcat1100
@tiffcat1100 2 ай бұрын
I like your curvy corner loaf tins ❤
@nccgolden3626
@nccgolden3626 3 ай бұрын
I had considered getting a Komo (pretty n versatile). I watched many videos for several grain Mills. Thank you for your demonstration and you also u give details that I haven’t heard anywhere else I was surprised to see that in the course option, the grain comes out with varied results. How is the maintenance on the machine? Have you had to replace parts? Have you ever had any problems with bugs because the floor that stays inside mechanisms?
@vegpatchkitchen
@vegpatchkitchen 3 ай бұрын
The machine requires very little maintenance. I grind rice through it from time to time to use in bannetons which helps keep the stones clean. I also place a peppermint teabag in the spout to deter bugs which seems to work
@nccgolden3626
@nccgolden3626 3 ай бұрын
@@vegpatchkitchenthank you sir much
@meinhendl
@meinhendl 3 ай бұрын
@@vegpatchkitchen very interesting and useful !
@vegpatchkitchen
@vegpatchkitchen 3 ай бұрын
Thank you
@nccgolden3626
@nccgolden3626 3 ай бұрын
Thank you so much. I just started journey learning to bake and milling my own fresh flour. You are a great teacher. Your explanations have given me some nuggets that really helped me understand the process better You mentioned the though can be left to rest up to an hour I have heard about over proofing can make bread cave in. So I learned from you if I understood correctly is that then you can let it sit and rest longer to proof/ ferment because you use less yeast than most recipes call for?
@vegpatchkitchen
@vegpatchkitchen 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for your kind words. Yes overproofing will cause the loaf to deflate. You control the time for proofing by using less yeast or putting the loaf in a colder environment such as a cool room or the fridge.
@nccgolden3626
@nccgolden3626 3 ай бұрын
@@vegpatchkitchen how to tell uf over proofed?
@vegpatchkitchen
@vegpatchkitchen 3 ай бұрын
The dough still needs to show signs of strength so if you place your hand gently on top and press lightly you will feel a slight resistance. If it starts to look or feel flabby then it is overproofed and when it goes in the oven the heat will cause the gases to expand and burst the gluten bubbles.
@vegpatchkitchen
@vegpatchkitchen 3 ай бұрын
@nccgolden3626 this video will help How to check a loaf is proved (and ready for the oven) kzfaq.info/get/bejne/q7x6pMWn3K-ll5s.html
@OzoneVibe
@OzoneVibe 4 ай бұрын
I've just found your channel. What I don't understand is that at your first "stretch and fold" your dough doesn't stick like a limpet to your hands. Even by third, my hands are again totally caked ... and I'm almost down to half a loaf! 😂 Even after shaping, my tea towel sticks to the dough ... losing even more.
@vegpatchkitchen
@vegpatchkitchen 4 ай бұрын
I feel your pain. I have many students ask me this. It can help to wet your hands and shake off the excess before you start.
@OzoneVibe
@OzoneVibe 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for your reply. When I get to shaping (if my results can be called a "shape" 🤪), I don't get that satin-looking level of dryness ... mainly because it's got the evidence of it having been sticking to my hands. A dough hedgehog might be the "shape"'s name ... though that's not fair to hedgehogs. Tried wet fingers, but it's soon sticking again. And wetting too often has obvious consequences to the dough. More trial and error .. and developing my liking for finger-kicking raw dough. 👍
@vegpatchkitchen
@vegpatchkitchen 4 ай бұрын
@OzoneVibe it is all about practice with bread. Getting the hydration right and developing the gluten well stops it sticking to everything. But I know it can be frustrating, keep at it, I promise it will get easier
@MrCodix
@MrCodix 4 ай бұрын
@6:19 "You dont want the mill stones to grind against each other" If the machine is calibrated correctly they shouldn't do that, no matter what setting you put it in.
@jessevance8455
@jessevance8455 4 ай бұрын
Excellent video! I’ve been making sourdough for 45 years now and just now decided to try to stretch and fold method. I gotta say it’s all around easier and less invasive. My bread has more rise and bigger air bubbles😍. Although & strangely “oven spring” seems to be the same, I know it’s not! I certainly leveled up after watching this video. Edit: I haven’t been making bread since before I was born!!! 😂. Just 4 or 5 years. Btw you could do a voiceover for any thing and I’ll tune in. Very soothing and professional. (I hope that did not come off creepy.)
@vegpatchkitchen
@vegpatchkitchen 4 ай бұрын
I am very pleased to hear this, thank you
@WAAB101
@WAAB101 4 ай бұрын
Great video! How come they don't stick to your bench scraper or your hands? :)
@vegpatchkitchen
@vegpatchkitchen 4 ай бұрын
Thank you. If you develop the dough well with stretches and folds or kneading it tends to want to stick to itself because of the strong gluten structure rather than your hands or the scraper. Liberal use of semolina helps too
@lindsaywaistell208
@lindsaywaistell208 4 ай бұрын
Can I use oat milk ?
@vegpatchkitchen
@vegpatchkitchen 4 ай бұрын
Yes you can, I am sure it will be delicious.
@sharonlatour6230
@sharonlatour6230 5 ай бұрын
I am going to do stretch and fold from now on!
@vegpatchkitchen
@vegpatchkitchen 5 ай бұрын
Great stuff! It makes bread making so much easier.
@stdesy
@stdesy 5 ай бұрын
How do you get it to not stick? I could literally fill the whole thing with a half-inch layer of flour and it still sticks in there
@vegpatchkitchen
@vegpatchkitchen 5 ай бұрын
As the gluten in the dough develops the dough becomes less sticky and easier to handle. Also shaping the dough well helps it hold its shape and less likely to stick. My top tips are to make sure you are doing enough stretch and folds ( or kneading) and practice your shaping technique to get a good, tight shape. I know how frustrating a stuck loaf is, but keep going.
@Mustacheologist
@Mustacheologist 2 ай бұрын
I concur, no matter what I do it sticks and rips the whole loaf in half when I flip it
@samuelvalle4475
@samuelvalle4475 27 күн бұрын
Rice flour - regular flour just becomes part of the dough and makes it stickier
@batty35
@batty35 5 ай бұрын
Hello 😀, I love your videos! Is there a pizza dough recipe video please?
@vegpatchkitchen
@vegpatchkitchen 5 ай бұрын
Thank you, I use my white dough recipe and add a glue of olive oil when mixing. I use semolina to shape the dough.
@batty35
@batty35 5 ай бұрын
@@vegpatchkitchen okay thank you very much. Do you use semolina on the surface when you roll it out?
@vegpatchkitchen
@vegpatchkitchen 5 ай бұрын
@batty35 yes sorry I didn’t make it very clear. It gives a good crunch to the base.
@batty35
@batty35 5 ай бұрын
@@vegpatchkitchen no need to apologise I really appreciate your response, thank you.
@yankeecitygirl
@yankeecitygirl 5 ай бұрын
Interesting method of creating the cross. In my area these buns are only available during Lent and they apply the cross after baking, with confectioners sugar/water frosting
@sarveshyadav6834
@sarveshyadav6834 5 ай бұрын
@boofdoodleberg
@boofdoodleberg 5 ай бұрын
How would you form this into a single round loaf at this point? I'm struggling to find a reliable, repeatable way to pinch those spiraly sides together and then underneath. Either my inclusions start poking out or the underside comes undone during the final proofing stage and it goes flat instead of rising upward.
@be.A.b
@be.A.b 4 ай бұрын
Too much flour, or dough too dry. Use the stickiness of the dough itself to seal the edges
@christianras259
@christianras259 5 ай бұрын
I added 2 tBS of oil ok or not thankyou 10:50
@vegpatchkitchen
@vegpatchkitchen 5 ай бұрын
Yes that is absolutely ok. Oil slows the staling of the loaf too. 2 tbsp is great, it won’t slow the yeast down. If you use a lot of fat then you have to leave more time for rising as it slows the yeast down.
@christianras259
@christianras259 5 ай бұрын
You taught me how to shape dough into a bread tin.I thank you very much Christian from Aotearoa new zealand
@vegpatchkitchen
@vegpatchkitchen 5 ай бұрын
I am very pleased to help. Thanks for letting me know.
@WhatWeDoChannel
@WhatWeDoChannel 5 ай бұрын
I enjoyed this! I’m impressed with how the cold Dutch oven worked! Now I would like to see a test with a cold Dutch oven going into a hot oven, that could be the sweet spot! I’m about to bake a sour dough loaf in a cold Dutch oven but the oven heated to 450F. It will have 25 minutes with the lid on and then another 22 minutes with the lid off but the heat reduced to 375F. I’m actually doing this in My new Le Crueset bread cloche.
@vegpatchkitchen
@vegpatchkitchen 5 ай бұрын
Be careful of the shock element of cold into hot, especially with enamel. It can prefer to be heated gently rather than being placed in a hot oven from cold. It may cause the pot to crack.
@WhatWeDoChannel
@WhatWeDoChannel 5 ай бұрын
@@vegpatchkitchen Thank you! I double checked the official instructions for the Cloche, they want you to put the cold cloche in a preheated oven, so it must be designed for the heat shock. The interior coating of the cloche is different than our other Le Crueset pans, its black.
@vegpatchkitchen
@vegpatchkitchen 5 ай бұрын
@@WhatWeDoChannel phew! I was worried. Let me know how it works out.
@WhatWeDoChannel
@WhatWeDoChannel 5 ай бұрын
@@vegpatchkitchen The bread came out well! I’m pleased with the oven spring. I have a lot of practicing to do with sour dough and hearth breads.
@vegpatchkitchen
@vegpatchkitchen 5 ай бұрын
@WhatWeDoChannel I am pleased. The benefit of practicing is all the bread you get to eat. Enjoy your loaf.
@jimmcg900
@jimmcg900 6 ай бұрын
I always use a cold Dutch oven into a preheated oven for 40 minutes and then uncovered for 12-15 minutes at 450. It's a lot less fuss.
@kevinu.k.7042
@kevinu.k.7042 6 ай бұрын
I would say there was difference in the crumb with the preheated one being slightly better. Thanks for this well done trial. A good script too. I was a little surprised you bake to 94C internal temperature to get a sandwich loaf crumb rather than 99C to get full starch gelatinisation given that this is a lean dough. Not a criticism, just a comment. Cheers and thank you for doing this test.
@vegpatchkitchen
@vegpatchkitchen 6 ай бұрын
Thank you, a minimum of 88c seems to be the magic number for me for a perfectly baked loaf.
@kevinu.k.7042
@kevinu.k.7042 6 ай бұрын
@@vegpatchkitchen Not just for you. That is about the standard bottom figure for a sandwich loaf. Some go as low as 85C. I like a slightly firmer crumb on my sandwich loaf and plump for 94C I was referring to full gelatinisation typical of a French crumb with a lean dough... Like this one. We each make our own baking choices. As I said, no criticism was meant.
@vegpatchkitchen
@vegpatchkitchen 6 ай бұрын
Thanks Kevin and I really appreciate your comment, you make a very valid point which will help others.
@suzcrook3563
@suzcrook3563 6 ай бұрын
If you cook it for an hour, then after an hour put a tea towel under the lid, it soaks up the condensation and you don’t get wet bits on top. I regularly make this loaf, it’s so easy.
@suzcrook3563
@suzcrook3563 6 ай бұрын
You can also brown the top in an air fryer or under the grill. Makes great toast. Also you can add powdered milk in too, to help it stay fresher; but home baked bread never lasts a day in my house, lol!
@vegpatchkitchen
@vegpatchkitchen 6 ай бұрын
That is a great tip thank you
@VoicesofMusic
@VoicesofMusic 6 ай бұрын
Try just preheating the lid :)
@lydiavaughn1041
@lydiavaughn1041 6 ай бұрын
Great idea! I was just curious, how do you wash/clean your tea towels after use? Thank you!
@vegpatchkitchen
@vegpatchkitchen 6 ай бұрын
Thank you. I wash my tea towels at 40c in my washing machine using a mix of washing powder and soda crystals ( bicarbonate of soda).
@feuerdrache4066
@feuerdrache4066 6 ай бұрын
If i do this with sourdough should i do this right after kneading or when shaping after its already done fermenting?
@vegpatchkitchen
@vegpatchkitchen 6 ай бұрын
After fermentation is best so that the gluten can form without the shearing effects of the additions.
@Rob_430
@Rob_430 4 ай бұрын
I know inclusions are to be added either on the second stretch & fold or before shaping. It’s called lamination.
@jhancarlosvillavicencio7978
@jhancarlosvillavicencio7978 6 ай бұрын
I see people having the same issue I do , dough surface tearing and breaking at certain point during the kneading, but also nobody asks you what’s your kitchen temperature or what’s the final temperature of your dough when you finish your dough. If the dough is under 25°C or 77°F or even lower when you are DONE kneading then there is the problem I guess , this may sound like a statement rather then a question , but I don’t see any other reasons, what are your thoughts on this ?
@wilkinson6212
@wilkinson6212 7 ай бұрын
Whoa. Those holes are way too big
@kordellkeys3654
@kordellkeys3654 2 ай бұрын
dude the bagel is going to rise again and that hole will shrink. your not smart or a baker
@thequantaleaper
@thequantaleaper 18 күн бұрын
@@wilkinson6212 they shrink as they rise.
@tj9382
@tj9382 7 ай бұрын
Looks delicious 😋
@vegpatchkitchen
@vegpatchkitchen 7 ай бұрын
Thank you
@tj9382
@tj9382 7 ай бұрын
It’s great to see you mixing the bread at every stage. I see that it seems to stick to your hands quite a lot earlier on. I became disheartened when I first tried and this happened to me, but it seems that this is part of the process.
@vegpatchkitchen
@vegpatchkitchen 7 ай бұрын
Thank you, yes it sticks to your hands at first then when the gluten starts to develop it sticks less then hardly at all.
@rinadror
@rinadror 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for the explanation and photographing the actions from the right angle, as if I were doing it together with you. Now I understand how to knead dough (slap and fold method).💯
@vegpatchkitchen
@vegpatchkitchen 7 ай бұрын
I am so pleased to help.
@ertansahin1923
@ertansahin1923 7 ай бұрын
Fiasco 😊 9:10
@bobb2251
@bobb2251 7 ай бұрын
Brilliant.Thanks❤
@bobb2251
@bobb2251 7 ай бұрын
Thank you.Exellent example🙏
@charlescresap4451
@charlescresap4451 8 ай бұрын
Coat the dog bowl for the dough with oil and flour before resting and cooking the dough.
@charlescresap4451
@charlescresap4451 8 ай бұрын
No Dutch oven works best. Dollar Tree has 8" stainless steel dog water bowls for $1.25. You need 2, one for the bread and one for a cover. They can go directly into the preheated oven. Remove the labels and the rubber ring before cooking.