Eaton M62

stock ecu and rising rate fuel pressure regulator, fitted a free programmable fuel computer later on

I did make a bracket out of Aluminium profiles. It's mounted to the Intake support and a hole near the alternator. I used the original pulleys, just with a extra pulley on the bracket...

With stock pulley how much boost you have?

Hi, it does have blow off to the intake side of the supercharger, and really needs it! The backpressure with closed throttle is high and bad for the SC... it goes from the aluminium tube to the sucking section of the SC... could be seen on a bigger screen around 35sec under the rubber hose which bend to the SC outlet

@@gintrapper ok, you mean, you have a bypass valve (not a blow off)

@@alainxavier Yeah, so to say, technically it's a blow by as the supercharger isn't bypassed at any time

if you give me you're emailadress, I'll sent you pics

never measured it, something between 150 and 200HP

Hi, reliability... depends on how you treat it... for me it's reliable, with a save tune... you get twice the stock power, so expect that you can break things, or that it will blow your headgasket if you drive it hard...

Druckregler verengen den Querschnitt des Rücklaufs, maßgeblich ist also immer der kleinste Durchmessen, ich habe deswegen den Originalen drin gelassen und zusätzlich einen weiteren eingebaut, den Silbernen der zu sehen ist, nicht den blauen, der ist nur um den Druck zu sehen... Ich habe also einfach die Benzinrücklaufleitungen zum neuen geführt (in meinem Fall habe ich zwei Leitungen aus Kupfer gebogen, gebördelt und anschlossen).Ich habe aber einen Druckreger mit einstellbaren, Druckabhängigen Anstieg gewählt. Die bessere Methode sind größere Düsen mit abgepasster Software! Welchen Kompressor baust du ein??

@@gintrapperdanke für die Antwort ☺️ Ich hab einen Mercedes Kompressor bestellt (gebraucht aber gut erhalten) der jetzt die Tage ankommt und dann will ich mal schauen wie der so rein passt. Ich hab einen M40B16 in einer 91er E36 Limo. Der Lader könnte ein M65 sein aber die Angaben im Netz variieren gerne mal. Die Teilenummer ist A2710902080. Will einfach mal testen wie viel da mit einfachen Mitteln geht. Wenn die Ansaug-&Druckverrohrung fertig ist und auch Kraftstoffseitig alles so ist wie es soll möchte ich auch nochmal in eine KDFI investieren und entsprechend AFR/Lambda, Ladelufttemperatur und Abgastemperatur überwachen. Das ganze aber so günstig wie möglich 😃 Also hast du dein Kraftstoffsystem so gebaut, das sich Ladedruckabhängig der Kraftstoffdruck erhöht aber die Einspritzzeit gleich bleibt ? Hat das so mit der OE-Kraftstoffpumpe funktioniert und auch unter Vollast bis Begrenzer oder hat er dann zu wenig Sprit ? Grüße ✌🏼

@@fullspeed809 Die Kraftstoffpumpe ist ausreichend, aber der Durchfluss der Düsen ist eigentlich zu klein... unter Vollast hat der Wagen abgemagert mit dem Setup, trotz der 5bar Kraftstoffdruck... hast du mit deinem Projekt weiter gemacht?

@@gintrapper geht jetzt im Sommer wieder weiter. 1 Bar Kraftstoffdruckerhöhung machen ca 12% mehr Durchlass bei gleicher Einspritzzeit aus. Da wird man nicht um das Kennfeld umschreiben herumkommen. Ich hab ein Einstellbaren Benzindruckregler für 1.8T/VR6 gekauft der den Druck per Ladedruck anhebt, da muss aber noch was abgedreht werden damit es passt. Will erstmal gucken wie viel Ladedruck der Kompressor macht wenn er dran ist und dann gucken ob ich den einstellbaren fahre oder einfach Standart. Wenn alles zusammen ist kauf ich das Steuergerät und dann gehts an die Abstimmung. Druckverrohrung, Material für Halter usw ist alles da auch Lambdaüberwachung usw

Eaton M62 from a Mercedes SLK/CLK230 M111 motor

@@gintrapper Thank you very much, I will definitely try 👍

@@gintrapper how about working Will the engine last??

@@levankobaidze6594 If the engine will last most likely depends on how you use it, I replaced headgasket before conversion, and overhault the head. Getting a save tune is crucial for the engine to last. Proper tuned the engine can stand the boost quite well...

Early M43 to '96 have almost the same Idle valve like M40, the later on the throttle body. I have a early model, so not tried to convert, just connected some hoses to make it fit, but most likely they work the same, as the amount of air needed is the same, and both are valves with pwm modulation. BTW. if you use a M40 intake from another car than a E36, it most likely will have a hole in the intake for the original M40 idle valve so you are kind of stuck with that...

@@gintrapper ok thank you very much

@@gintrapper The injectors of m40 316 are the same cc with m43 316?

Only if the car is fitted with Clima, without the visco system is standart

Hi, hab deinen Kommentar leider erst jetzt gesehen... verbaut ist eine M40 Ansaugbrücke, der Ventildeckel ist modifiziert, ein M62 Kompressor von Mercedes ist drin, die Ansaugung und der Halter sind selbst gebaut...

M40 intake and M40 throttle but it isn't plug and play, even thouh the M40 Intake will bolt straight to your engine. There are several Version of the M40 intake/throttle. I have brought some, and took a E36 unit for the build, the E30 ones should do the trick, too, but use a different aragement for the idle control, as the control valve is directly pluged into the intake on these. You most likely have to use other injectors, but bigger injectors are required anyway if you want to make it right. Using a risinng fuel rate pressure regulator isn't the proper solution for getting enough fuel.

@@gintrapper So the e36 throttle will work with the m40 intake? I have the intake from a e30 m40 but don't have the throttle though And the idle control has to be modified as well? because i didn't quite understand it How much bigger fuel injectors are needed so that my eaton m45 would give the most power? Also is it possible to make it as close to be to a factory look without any extreme modifications? Like for example the fuel injectors could work with the factory ECU because i don't have much knowledge about it And i saw that in my m43 there's a small hose plugged into the factory intake and the m40 doesn't have such thing will it need to be drilled? Wouldn't be any problem for you to send me some few pics of how you installed the eaton supercharger and how the intake looks like? That would give me some idea how to get it done Also thank you for replying

@@savedemperor8024 No, the e36 throttle won't fit the M40 intake, unless you make a adapterplate. There was a M40 in the early e36, I took the intake and throttle from that model, as the M40 Intake from a E30 have the Idle control valve pluged in directly in the Intake. You can use the M40 intake from a E30, but you'll better use the M40 throttle E30 as well...

@@gintrapper Ok then I'll get the m40 throttle as well also what brand fuel injectors did you got? And there's a small hose coming from the injectors attached to the factory intake which the m40 one doesn't have so how did you do that? Can it be just drilled for it or something?

@@gintrapper I've got the m40 throttle and all but i have no idea how to install everything 😂 i don't know where to put hoses and also the m43 throttle has two electric plugs compared to m40 that has only one so im pretty much stuck Could you send me a few pictures of how you connected everything on my e mail or something if it's not a bother for you?

I don't drive it as a daily, but till now, it didn't blew up

Never did a dyno run with it, but with 0.7- 1Bar Boost, you can estimate something between 150HP to 200HP

Yeah, it's honestly not the best engine for such a job, as there are many better engines for a E36 which would make much more power with the same afford , like a M42 or M44... but it was there, and I wanted to try it

@@gintrapper how many HP did u get out of it? Can u please link everything u used? I want to supercharge my E46 m43 engine

@@alexbabtan2395 somewhere round 150 to 200HP... did make around 1bar overboost... there is no setup you can buy, I fabricated most of the parts myself, I bought a Eaton M62 and a M40 intake, and made most of the rest up...

Stock Head gasket, but a new one

Rising Rate Fuel pressure regulator and a extra fuel controller... dealing with the DME M1.7.20 doesn't seem the way to go for me...

@@gintrapper hi, very good projecet how please link to product fuel contoroller , i have turbo M40 and 317cc a very rich mixture :/ thanks

@@lukasnevidzan5523 I'm using the SMT- FTX from perfectpower, www.perfectpower.com/index.php/products/fuel-tuners/smt-ftx I'm pretty sure there are other units out there, too...

@@gintrapper NOT price :/

@@lukasnevidzan5523 Man, I'm not here for selling things... but I did a quick search, it took about a Minute finding this site gngdevelopments.co.za/store/index.php?route=product/category&path=61, they list the SMT FTX with a price... btw. I bought mine second hand and very cheap, that's why I used it, any fuel tuner should do the trick... but it's not a bad unit... I like the 2 switchable maps...

Hi, deine Fragen kann ich leider nicht so richtig beantworten, Leistung ist nicht gemessen worden, rein rechnerisch muss Sie zwischen 150 und 200PS liegen... ich schätze mal eher um 170PS. Die Bescheunigung ist deutlich besser, und geht so in Richtung vom 7 bis 8 Sek auf 100.... der Wagen ist aber noch nicht fertig abgestimmt... im Moment baue ich eine Breitbandsonde ein um ihn vernünftig abzustimmen...

@@gintrapper Hi, erstmal danke für deine Antwort hab nicht mit einer gerechnet mehr. :D Das lohnt sich ja dann schon der Umbau fast doppelt so schnell 0-100 statt 14.7 Sekunden, sehr geil. Ist der Spritverbrauch drastisch angestiegen so als letzte Frage die in meinem Kopf schwebt seit ich die erste Frage geschrieben hab. Grüße

Habe angefragt, wenn die Abgaswerte stimmen ist eine Eintragung möglich, kostet ca. 3000€, wieso??

Danke!

Hi, the supercharger is different, bigger than the one on the older C180/C200, as these are eaton M45, if I recall that right... I choose the M40 intake because it's shorter and thus gives you more room for the Supercharger, but if you install the charger at an angle, almost upright, you should find room for it with the standart intake, but it's tight... maybe the M45 gives a bit more room... also I did build a water to air intercooler, which I haven't put in yet, the M40 intake leaves room for that, the standard, I'm pretty sure, don't....

@@gintrapper awesome! Thanks man. Does the M40 intake bolt straight onto the M43 block though? And were you able to keep the air conditioning and power steering pumps working?

@@batates74 Hi. yes the M40 intake bolt straight onto the M43 head, but depending on which year your M43 is, the fuel injectors won't fit (the later ones with air inlet have bigger holes in the inlet than the older ones... so won't fit in M40 intake without modifications). And the M43 engine ventilation on the camcover will foul the inlet. I got the tube out of the Cover and welded up the hole with a bit of aluminium, then I bored and threadet the outlet from above and screwed in a hose connection... The car doesn't have aircon, but it wouldn't be a Problem to run aircon without modification... power steering pump still is in the same location and works fine with the longer belt... so yes, no prob with aircon and power steering...

@@gintrapper nice man, thanks a lot for the help!

@@gintrapper Hi is it possible to send me some Photos wher you have to make modyfication?? I have m43b18 engine and im trying to feat in Eatom M43 :) wait for replay :) if you will need my Facebook or email text me back thanks :)

M43 B16, Stock internals, M40 intake, modified Rocker cover, custom fuel lines rising rate fuel pressure regulator that got the fuel pressure up to 5bar on max boost, custom build air inlet, open KN filter, M62 supercharger, switchable, 1,2 bar bypass valve to the sc intake side, pressure switch to switch sc off in case off too much pressure, custom bracket incl. idle roller, injector wires intercepted and a fuel tuner from perfect power, with two switchable maps for controlling fuel injection time...

According to the map sensor fitted about 0.8 to 1.0 Bar overboost... a bit difficult to say, as it shows the pressure with a small delay, and as the supercharger is in front of the throttle, you got peaks when you close the throttle on higher rpms, but should be around 0.8 and 1Bar, highest I saw was 1.27, but this was due to closing throttle on high rpm's for sure

@@gintrapper do you use stock ecu ? or you made some mods to it?

@@moscowhq9978 stock ecu, rising rate fuel pressure regulator and extra fuel tuner computer, not tuned correctly yet, due to lack of time

Self made, Eaton M62, custom frame for adaption, custom intake, M40 intake manifold, customized Camshaft Cover, selbst gemacht, selbstgebauter Halter, M40 Ansaugbrücke, selbstgebaute Luftansaugung und geänderter Nockenwellendeckel... etwas über 1 Bar Druck... bin übrigens ebenfalls aus Deutschland

@@gintrapper tolles Projekt.. Könnte ich mir auch für meinen 318is vorstellen...

@@carmechatronics7313 Das Setup, so wie es ist müßte eigentlich auch beim M42/44 passen, vorrausgesetzt man nutzt die frühe M42 Brücke aus dem E30... kann das Setup nur empfehlen, macht Spass