nice restoration. Now the plinth is so looking nice that you see the marks on the chassis much more....I would take the time to also refresh the paint in originally grey.....
@jothanankrogh17 күн бұрын
@RobertWilson-il2xi maybe in future. I did not have the familiarity and confidence with taking apart and putting back the mechanicals at this time.
@seraphin_creates25 күн бұрын
Ahahah the ending, ouf!! I feel with you but a less than great outcome for you can be great learning for us ;)
@jutukka26 күн бұрын
My advice is to use two resistors to "virtual" ground that heater winding because those resistors can act as fuses in certain tube shorting etc. situations. And I have in my own builds tried not to hide wiring or resistors under turretboard because even if it looks messy, it is usually much easier to service, mod and troubleshoot.
@jothanankrogh25 күн бұрын
@jutukka thank you, everything you mention here gets addressed in the upcoming part3 video.
@jutukka25 күн бұрын
@@jothanankrogh Nice. And about those heater resistors, for example if in EL34 tube socket the pin 3 (plate) arcs to pin 2 (heater), which is unfortunately quite a common scenario when tube socket is dirty or moist, or if B+ gets in some other way shorted to heater wiring which directly galvanically shares the same ground than B+ through chassis, if heater winding is centertapped and ct is directly connected to chassis, there could be some considerable damage as a result. In case of those virtual ground resistors, the to heater circuit shorted B+ current have to go to ground through those resistors which if are of properly low wattage flameproof mox resistors, hopefully act as a safe fuses in that situation.
@ernestporee369727 күн бұрын
Raise your resistors off the board ... Trini
@jothanankrogh27 күн бұрын
Wuz d scene brudda. I didn't think that elevating resistors for heat dissipation was necessary at all here, could you share your experience?
@caryj9677Ай бұрын
need to get in touch with you please....post method ie whatsapp, email, etc...thx
@johnbravo7542Ай бұрын
All tube amplifiers I've built have no tone controls.
@jothanankroghАй бұрын
I generally don't use them but some LP pressings seem off and I would enjoy with a little correction
@jerryjohnson3801Ай бұрын
Hello Jonathan, I just got a MX151 and I need to paint the case do you know the right color for that ?
@JasonNovetskyАй бұрын
Where is your EAR phono preamp?!!! I like the channel. Thanks!
@jothanankroghАй бұрын
Thank you Jason. In my rush to wrap up these vids I didn't drag the EAR copy down to the workshop. It is presently feeding into a source switcher and then the Mcintosh 2105 or Dynaco Mk3s into Pioneer Hpm100s.
@bkatbamnaАй бұрын
Great restoration. I've seen these and the Garrard 300s in this condition go for thousands of dollars.
@admiralhipowa71582 ай бұрын
Beautiful turntable, well engineered.
@oakmountainman78722 ай бұрын
I have one of these in my basement that I have been considering refurbishing. I look forward to watching your videos on this. Thank you very much for taking this project on.
@jothanankrogh2 ай бұрын
I'm glad, you are my target audience. I think your project will go well, as long as all the parts are present. I think the only hassles that would hinder a restoration would be if the platters are damaged. Even the motor can be completely rebuilt easily and all parts are available.
@AubMar4 ай бұрын
All caps need some burn-in time, and it varies widely. I would have left the amp turned on for 10 to 20 hours before making a judgement and replacing them.
@thatampguy4 ай бұрын
You, sir, are a glutton for punishment!
@jackstanley35295 ай бұрын
Crosstalk seems to be a common issue with the PASs. I was recently asked to see if I could remedy this on a friend's PAS that I had serviced. I found two things: 1) leads from different inputs are tightly run in parallel together to the selector switch. This looks tidy but causes signal from one input to be induced into the other. Re running these individual wires randomly (it can be done neatly) did help but not completely. 2) The grounds for line level inputs are lifted by a 10 ohm resistor at the inputs. So, although the selector switch shorts the unselected inputs to ground, the 'shorted' inputs are seeing 10 ohms. This will effectivley short high impedance input devices but on something like a cathode follower output with low impedance, it will happily drive signal into a 10 ohm load. Shorting these ground-lift 10 ohm resistors in conjunction with 1) will pretty much take care of the crosstalk. Still, for critcial listening it is best to shut off inputs not being listened to.
@nathansealey62705 ай бұрын
Excellent!! & same if my origin 50c ever dies, I’ll be turning it into a jtm 45 using a turret board
@PhuketMyMac5 ай бұрын
I completely understand your hate for complex Marshall designs like the JCM2000 and TSL series and so on. I am on the same page. I am not a guitar amp tech but I do soldering jobs on a daily basis and I am learning guitar amp designs. However I got myself a DSL100H (Vietnamese version) and the design is quite good in comparison to those multiple PCB designs. Definitely not the simpliest design like the JCM800 but nonetheless very workable. Only 1 big PCB that can be flipped to work under it. I am not sure why yours failed (the one you've shown on the video which seems to be the same model) but I would be interested to know what issue it has and why it made you hate it please. Thanks!
@jothanankrogh5 ай бұрын
This one is a mystery, it came to me with what seems to be two previous episodes of arcing around the power tubes. I.e. previous arc repairs on the board + fresh arcing soot and damage. I did my best to remove arc damage and restore circuit traces, and redo poor work from some mystery previous tech. At the point it was still blowing fuses. I told the owner we need to purchase at least a new set of powertubes and a new main board + labour to have a RELIABLE amp (this came from a rental company and has no value to them if it isnt trustworthy). They then declined any further work and just abandoned it for salvage. In my last looks at it I could not say exactly what caused its problems, it may have been from the known board flaw regarding bias, or it may have been run without a speaker connected numerous times. At this time of writing I do not know for sure that the transformers are undamaged.
@lousekoya18035 ай бұрын
Now you'll have a real amp !
@ImRlyAbrit5 ай бұрын
Yoooo just finished doing basically this same project but in a jcm2000 dsl100 that was dead and built a jose mod plexi in it, good shit
@jothanankrogh5 ай бұрын
You know... I also have a deadish DSL100H here sitting right next to it. Owner has abandoned it at my workshop, who knows it may come to a similar fate.
@ImRlyAbrit5 ай бұрын
Hell yea, will watch that one too if you record that project. Took me about 3 months since it was my first build with a lot of help. The transformers were long gone so the power supply had to be redesigned to run what we had. Now it's what the DSL should have been, stock plexi on channel 1, footswitchable extra gain stage in front of the plexi for channel 2. Dual master volume to balance the channels. May try to add a footswitchable solo boost eventually. Might be biased since I built it but holy shit it's the sound I've been chasing for the 15 years I've been playing.
@soapboxearth25 ай бұрын
I wonder if clamping a plate inside the chassis will give you something to drill into where holes don't match up
@jothanankrogh5 ай бұрын
I ended up using round files and dremel bits to tackle the overlapping holes. That marshall chassis steel is a pretty tough 16 guage.
@soapboxearth25 ай бұрын
That was very nice of your customer ! This will be a rewarding project I'm sure. I love gutting fender hot rod amps and making 5f6a bassman or plexis or jcm amps. Sure beats buying transformers , speakers , chassis etc etc. One of my upcoming amps will be converting an origin 50 mashall to a 1987 ..
@seraphin_creates5 ай бұрын
Wonderful video once again!
@julesl69105 ай бұрын
Have two of these PAS preamps, they are glorious
@jothanankrogh5 ай бұрын
Hello Jules, what do you use them with? In a surprising twist, I recently ran this preamp into a Mcintosh mc2105 and the result was not nice at all. I need to keep my PAS + Mk3s dynacos setup intact.
@julesl69105 ай бұрын
Dyanco ST-70 series II and an old SCA-35. Obviously it was designed for this use and sounds great. Might not be a good pairing for a McIntosh amp... I will add that in the regular preamp stage (right pcb) I'm running 60's nos Tung Sol 12ax7 's and in the other unit the original dynaco west germany tubes. Might want to experiment with putting in gold lions or something to pair better with the McIntosh@@jothanankrogh
@julesl69105 ай бұрын
Look up your amp's input impedance, it may be a bad match for the PAS@@jothanankrogh
@jothanankrogh5 ай бұрын
@julesl6910 the mcintosh mc2105 has a stated input impedence of 200k. I am not sure how much of what I hear is an impedance mismatch or sensitivity mismatch or excess gain? But together they do sound nasty.
@julesl69105 ай бұрын
Yep that's about twice the standard input impedance of most amps, it will require a mcintosh preamp or something like that lol. I envy your "problem" and hope to have something like it some day.@@jothanankrogh
@scottmpence10585 ай бұрын
some friend..talk your buddy out of the VALUE of this item..your a P.O.S>
@DANTHETUBEMAN5 ай бұрын
you made a Real AMP out of it 😊
@sweff5 ай бұрын
look at that thicc projek
@Pokey73175 ай бұрын
YAY!!!... Project TIME
@seraphin_creates6 ай бұрын
wow, i'm really happy i found your channel! greetings from frosty trondheim
@jothanankrogh6 ай бұрын
Greetings to you also! I am jealous of your frost, we are MELTING here in Trinidad
@brandonbenjamin29426 ай бұрын
Hi good day, are you in Trinidad? Really looking for someone who repair amplifers
@jothanankrogh6 ай бұрын
Well Brandon, I am really a tube amp repairman, what amps do you have?
@guimbadriver6 ай бұрын
in my MC2105 the output transistors passed away, i replaced by TIP35C with my TO3 adapters now is working fine
@tonycanning85186 ай бұрын
Silicon transistors will out live us. Al cap's on the other hand will all have to go ...
@parttime90706 ай бұрын
I've used OneShot 199L black , sign painters paint..
@heathwirt89196 ай бұрын
Nice job on the restore, it looks really nice. How does it sound? Did the new three conductor power cord remove the residual voltage on the case? Now you have an amp that will last another 50 years. Enjoy.
@jothanankrogh6 ай бұрын
Yes it certainly did, with the 3 prong cord I am much safer and there is ZERO hum, and the added 3 prong cord has not created any ground loop issues as some may fear. The sound is great, there is a beautiful dynamic, especially in the bass and mids, I can see why people call these warm sounding amps.
@aley33186 ай бұрын
great job, enjoyed watching it, thank you!
@QAudio9 ай бұрын
Do you have the list for the parts to buy?
@jameswarren18319 ай бұрын
Sorry if I missed it but did you check loading on the cart? 46k and 100-300pf across the phono cart in.
@jothanankrogh9 ай бұрын
Excellent question, as far as I've seen the Ear834 has no capacitors at its input circuit and relies upon the turntable cables capacitance, mine measured 220-240pf.
@jameswarren18319 ай бұрын
It might be a good topic to do a video on, especially if you have a test record and some gear to measure the response.
@dewittcoppin946010 ай бұрын
Nice work
@wa4aos11 ай бұрын
I ASSUME you know that a leaky electrolytic does NOT just mean electrolyte physically leaking from its pins or end. You should measure every section for value and ESR, equivalent series resistance. Often is the case, aging electrolytic caps start exhibiting internal resistance and start acting more like a resistor than a cap. I generally toss electrolytics older than 30 years unless it's a Nichicon, Rubicon or other high quality caps. Those I still check and if the value and ESR are good, maybe, allow more like 40 years. Bottom Line, electrolytic caps don't last indefinitely. While on the bench and under the hood is a good time to do this work. AND keep in mind, there are a lot of fake caps with brand names like mentioned. DigiKey and Mouser are a good source for quality parts.
@jothanankrogh11 ай бұрын
Yes all electrolytics were replaced, I just wasn't sure at first if they were the original parts.
@jothanankrogh11 ай бұрын
Note: it was some "Audiophiler" 1uf capacitors that seemed to ruin the sound, further use with the stock, orange drops or solen capacitors in that position all sounded good.
@markstewart180711 ай бұрын
Great video thanks for sharing,I've been through much the same experiences,trying to minimise hum and noise,actually found it to sound very nice,have used better low noise valve's but haven't changed any Capacitors yet,I have put power supply board in different enclosure and my next step is to add Chokes and Capacitors on the Heater and B+ supplies to hopefully reduce noise and hum further,one of best things I've found and would advise trying if you can put your hands on one is feed it via an Mains Isolation Transformer.
@DrBovdin Жыл бұрын
O dear, now I was starting to entertain the idea of socketed capacitors as well. But unfortunately the sockets probably would mess up the actual capacities seen electrically. This looks like a fun project kit. Hopefully something similar can still be had these days here in Europe, and if it is with pre-drilled stand-off holes (I don’t have a drill press). Cheers
@jothanankrogh Жыл бұрын
That is a great idea! One problem is that all these capacitors have different thickness lead wires, but a raised turret or pin could work as a much easier solder point for faster swapping
@DrBovdin Жыл бұрын
@@jothanankrogh yes, it is a great idea until you realise how much capacitance a socket spring and some unavoidable oxide layers might add (uncleanly) to the system. But then again, maybe it won’t be that bad. Only one way to find out… 😉
@lautvillegas Жыл бұрын
Great one! Do you know what kind of footswitch this pedal contains?
@ekbanjosworld4926 Жыл бұрын
Tubes will sound a bit slower. Maybe you're use to the Solid State sound ? It is definitely quicker, faster with more solid thump ?
@ekbanjosworld4926 Жыл бұрын
Damn ! Do you have a hamster or gerbil running on a metal wheel or what ? What's the terrible squeeking noise ?
@ekbanjosworld4926 Жыл бұрын
I too have a PAS 3. I especially like your keeping it original approach. No BS ! If you'd wanted a Frankenamp, you'd have built it ! Kudos
@ekbanjosworld4926 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, good choice of music ! These dumbass mods on KZfaq aren't intelligent enough to recognize the final movement of Beethoven's 9th Symphony 😂
@darvinclement6850 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! Ihave one just like that that I bought new in high school. It was my first pedal. I was putting the Stewmac 9v center plug mod in and a wire in the board broke off and I couldn’t see where it went. Found this video and saw where it attached to. The old Small Stone’s like this need the adapter plug wired different than the Stewmac directions show. Got it figured out on my own.
@user-ey6pf7be8m Жыл бұрын
Your through explanation encouraged me to challenge my first diy project of tube amplifier. The first result was very discouraging, but I was lucky to figure out a few mistakes (in a week time) and the sound was fantastic; more than I expected!! I am already dreaming my second project. BTW, do you have measured data (VDC) at each stages of the music line? Although I cannot hear any sound differences between right and left channels, I measured the B+ voltages differ significantly; 244/281VDC. Without the load (disconnect the main board), the B+ voltages for both channels are similar; 294/301 VDC. This difference continues, so the plate voltages at V1, V2, V3 are 73/79, 94/110, 242/279 VDC. I have no idea whether the measured voltages are within expected range or the differences are acceptable or not?? Anyone can share the valuable experience?
@cobar5342 Жыл бұрын
Nice work. I have made the same piece but from the competition. I found Mundorf PIO caps after seeing Skunky use them and they are very nice sounding. She also does not trust the supplied resistors on another project and I agree. I purchased some along the lines of mid-range Vishay's None of this is super expensive and you can get a good reward
@taralewis9916 Жыл бұрын
Hi Jonathan, I have Pas 3 and with a HK Citation I Ithat I have had since the mid 80's. Both was completed rebuilt by a Micheal Fraser in Los Angeles. His design is based off Herbert Keroes from the 50's. In the Pas 3 he has added two 12au7's, not sure why. In the phono section there are two small vertical boards added, maybe for the RIAA. The tone controls are removed. He needed the area for two 450V, 100 MF's each, two zener are added on top of the selenium rectifier. A choke has been added. Numerous capacitors are stacked on the phono and output borads. A couple friends brought their PAS3 over for comparison and the Fraser kill them. The Citation II is completed changed. No more 6 volt TV tubes in it
@jothanankrogh5 ай бұрын
Hello Tara, sorry for the late reply. I would GUESS that the added 12au7s are for cathode follower stages for the line output, maybe even for the phono too. They probably did something with the power supply to address the extra current needed also. Very interesting to see how complex or how simple mods of this platform emerged.
@taralewis99165 ай бұрын
@@jothanankroghAre there out here in the Los Angeles CA area that still work on tube gear.