In my opinion, I never trained judo, just did a few throws with friends.However I did BJJ for a few months, I find judo much more useful, especially for self defense. Judo of course is the original art BJJ just an off shoot

True, but judo took a lot of the groundwork from Tenjin Shinyo Ryu (Koizumi's main education) and Tanabe/Kataoka's Fusen ryu and Tachenouchi ryu. Koizumi was a teaching assistant to Raku who was a master of this style and not Judo. Kano- the founder of Judo- hated groundwork and was forced to bring some of it into Judo when Tanabe beat his best guys. In the 20s Kano changed the rules to modern Judo and banned a lot of the things we see here. The Gracies preserved it the pre 1920s style, and had they switched to Judo, BJJ would be modern Judo.

You are very ignorant about the history and base of BJJ . Go do your combat slort judo , then show up in BJJ school days they are moping their floors so your Judo will be useful to something . 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

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@@SINdaBlock411 Oh, that's a good one! First off, Relson Gracie has probably been in more real street fights than you've racked up video game fights, even when you're in cheat mode. He was the black sheep of the Gracie family, known for his partying and, you guessed it, street fighting. As for Renzo, you don't need to dig too deep-just check out his Twitter/X account. Not too long ago, some unlucky guys tried to mug him. Spoiler alert: it didn’t end well for them. So, yeah, the Gracie brothers / cousin’s have their street cred covered! 😊

@@LineageBJJname the "6 time Russian judo champion" they supposedly submitted on those infamous Gracie "Challenges" scam tapes ... until then, stfu and quit drinking the Kool Aid, even in competition, much less real life, they NEVER picked a fight they didn't know way beforehand they could handle, and based from what happened to Tiago Guma and Leandro Lo, I'm not buying ANY of it ... the only thing I know about Renzo, and that's all I need to know, is that a random untrained moron managed to throw him on the ground on the NYC subway ... beyond that, he got arrested for starting fights with bouncers at some night club ... you must confuse fighting ability with petty criminal activity, do not cmment again until you know of what you speak, even Rufino Dos Santos required 3 of the Gracies to put him down and even that was a calculated act way beforehand, same with 2 more fighters they couldn't handle 1 on 1 except both times it was 4 of the brothers ganging up together, you clearly don't seem to grasp the reality that the Gracies are cowards who always travel in packs which leads me to believe Renzo was not alone when they almost got mugged, Brazilians are like hyena's: they never travel alone

@@LineageBJJ "Relson Gracie has probably been in more real street fights than you've racked up video game fights, even when you're in cheat mode. " sure thing budd, just like the infamous 450-0 BS from Rickson I suppose lol and what about that so called "6 time Russian judo champion" they supposedly submitted on those Gracie "Challenges" scam tapes, I am still waiting for the name of that "champion" ... Renzo has been smashed by an untrained rando on the NYC Subway and was arrested when he started picking fights with a few bouncers at a night club ... back in the old days Rufino Dos Santos and 2 more fighters who all proved too much for the Gracies to handle were all assaulted prematurely by 3 or 4 of the Gracie brothers ... which leads me to believe every so called "street fight" they "won" was because like a bunch of hyena's they always travel in packs ... and they always cherrypick the opposition, not once in their whole prefabricated career have they ever fought someone they didn't know beforehand they could beat and even then they failed several times and had to resort to cheats in order to "win" or "avoid losing", 3 times in a row against Ken Shamrock, countless of times against Sakuraba, they failed completely against Kimura, Eugenio Tadeu was also robbed from victory ... your "tough guy" Renzo was literally laying helpless on the floor like a beaten little whore and before Tadeu could put him out of his misery and claim the match, his shameful brothers and family turned off all the lights, resulting in a riot ... face it freak, your entire idol's legacy was prefabricated and FAKE from start to finish, they have NEVER played fair, they have NEVER overcome real opposition (when your other "tough guy" Royce returned in 2006 to face Matt Hues, he nearly got his shoulder ripped apart so Hues took pity on the coward, took his back and bitchslapped him into submission ... ) FACE IT YOU'RE A JOKE YOUR IDOLS THE GRACIES ARE A JOKE AND YOU SHOULD BE EMBARRASSED TO EVEN DEFEND THESE CLOWNS ... quit drinking the Kool Aid, quit pretending to believe their fairytale BS, quit sucking their non-existing balls and have some fn dignity

@@LineageBJJ dude, just stop talking, everyone knows how shady the Gracies are, they're expert con men, furthermore bjj is useless in a real fight, it only works against people who don't know crap about fighting or grappling, and even then only when 1) it's 1 on 1 (most fights are NEVER 1 on 1), 2) when there's no weapons involved (ANYTHING from a pencil to a piece of glass can be used as a weapon), 3) when your opponent isn't physically insurmountable (idc how deep down into the Gracie rabbithole you dug yourself into, a 100 lbs girl is NOT going to submit or even survive an agressive encounter with a 250 lbs agressor, that's complete Gracie Disneyland BS they're selling you) ... furthermore, Brazilians are known to be extremely family/group oriented and are the worst type of sore losers you will ever meet, they make even Italians look stoic by comparison ... it wouldn't surprise me in the slighest, hearing the stories of Rufino Dos Santos and whatnot, that they always operated in small gangs whenever they had a street altercation, and Renzo was also heavily criticized for literally quoting Heinrich Himmler online at one point ... he refused to apologize and even doubled down on his statement ... who in his right mind would wanna learn from a lowlife like that ... the fact that he's into the whole nazi thing also is a HUGE RED FLAG, because Germans ALSO tend to stick together and rarely fight alone or without the instruction of their Führer ... bjj is a cult, plain and simple, and you're clearly part of it, so why should anyone around here NOT take anything positive you claim about them with some SERIOUS grains of salt ...

It’s jiu jitsu only Americans ( like they own the American continent lol) started calling it bjj in the US because of the Gracie patent. In Brazil was always called jiu jitsu still to this day. So what do Helio Gracie and Americans have in common? hahaha 😂

It's "martial arts", but yes, you're right. There is a form of martial arts for every individual and to think that many go through life practising none is a real shame.

We got wrastlin here in the west

Translation: Sometime the guy gotta big mouth so we beat the guy.