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@xavrikxify
@xavrikxify 5 сағат бұрын
Alright, I may be really really new to magic, but how do you win off of drawing your own deck when you still need mana to play the cards you draw?
@BasedDeckDept
@BasedDeckDept 4 сағат бұрын
Fair question especially for a newer player. Watch from 11:18 for about a minute. You chain Simian Spirit Guide into Rite of Flame into Desperate Ritual, which makes 3 red mana for you out of nowhere. Exiling Simian Spirit guide from your hand gives you the first red mana, even if you have no untapped lands. Hope this helps!
@xavrikxify
@xavrikxify Сағат бұрын
​@BasedDeckDept Awesome. I see now. It chains and you get off the three mana to get the combo off. I feel scared with that route as you leave yourself open without counter protection, haha.
@BasedDeckDept
@BasedDeckDept Сағат бұрын
@@xavrikxify Great :) And to be fair, that combo line and total of 6 mana does include a single blue mana for a counterspell or protection. So technically the 3 red mana from drawing the deck should be in addition to a blue mana. But such is the joy of playing combos :D
@Ashes_to_Ashes200
@Ashes_to_Ashes200 Күн бұрын
I feel like in any pod possible there is no reason to go in on the amass subtheme. You already have a managorger hydra when on earth is that not the biggest creature. I feel like the discard/wheel theme is much better. Run madness and madness enablers. Then have the evil cards like archfiend of ifnir to truly feel like the big bad at the table
@0rcd0c
@0rcd0c 2 күн бұрын
Very good breakdown and sound thought process behind the decisions. You're right that Izzet spellslingers are always hungry for mana pips and I would probably replace the two colorless dorks with an Ornithopter of Paradise and possibly still a Sol Ring or a Coldsteel Heart. Just want to toss in a couple of cards that might be a consideration for this brew: Tezzeret's Gambit Inspired Tinkering Frantic Search Hieroglyphic Illumination Into the Fire Reinterpret Into the Story Flame Sweep Baral's Expertise Traverse Eternity Storm-Kiln Artist Clout of the Dominus Fiery Inscription Double Vision Visions of Ruin Mizzix's Mastery
@BasedDeckDept
@BasedDeckDept 2 күн бұрын
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it. Some solid card choices there. Traverse Eternity and Baral's Expertise stand out as solid additions especially.
@0rcd0c
@0rcd0c Күн бұрын
@@BasedDeckDept There was one more card on my mind that I couldn't remember the name at first but it was Sunbird's Invocation which is like a Kodama of the East Tree for this deck. I usually don't like greedy, high cmc cards but for the inner timmy's, this is a card that will pay dividends big time.
@NateFinch
@NateFinch 2 күн бұрын
I am glad you posted that this deck is fun to play with and against. I like aggro decks (if you like John Benton, try Samut, Vizier of Naktamun.... similar "turn cardboard sideways, draw cards" theme, but more go wide than voltron). I had heard John Benton was really powerful and I didnt want to build yet another deck that would be too powerful for my playgroup. This sounds like the fun makes it a bit better to play against.
@BasedDeckDept
@BasedDeckDept 2 күн бұрын
Yeah he is an incredible amount of fun. Not every single person will like the play pattern, but I'd say 90% will based on my experience. And it's always fun because sometimes giving someone 15 cards may backfire for us, but that's part of the fun.
@NateFinch
@NateFinch 2 күн бұрын
I was sooo much happier with the precon once I made Eris the commander. Stella actually seemed actively bad in the precon. Eris is the only Izzet spellslinger commander that I have actually liked. Most just feel too exposed to attack or too fiddly with spells vs payoffs.
@BasedDeckDept
@BasedDeckDept 2 күн бұрын
Yeah I can appreciate that. I would also rather run Eris within the precon. You should watch my recent video about Melek. He's far from fiddly 😁
@NateFinch
@NateFinch 2 күн бұрын
​@@BasedDeckDeptI came here after watching that one! :). Melek also looks cool. I do like that melek doesn't require balancing payoffs vs spells. I think I'll stick with Eris for Izzet though. I'm a green player at heart and pumping out 4/4 prowess dragons is definitely in my wheelhouse.
@BasedDeckDept
@BasedDeckDept 2 күн бұрын
@@NateFinch Haha, yeah look if you're a stompy man at heart, Eris is the perfect fit.
@Vance5th
@Vance5th 2 күн бұрын
immensely based concept
@BasedDeckDept
@BasedDeckDept 2 күн бұрын
🙏
@Zeyga
@Zeyga 3 күн бұрын
Excellent deck tech dude!
@BasedDeckDept
@BasedDeckDept 3 күн бұрын
Hah, thanks again. Glad you enjoyed the Stella video. You should check out my new Melek video for a slightly different Izzet build :D
@Zeyga
@Zeyga 3 күн бұрын
Great video dude! Love the channel and the vibes.
@BasedDeckDept
@BasedDeckDept 3 күн бұрын
Thank you for watching. Glad you enjoyed it :D
@nokthar97
@nokthar97 3 күн бұрын
I feel sooo Srry for american mtg players I bought this deck for less then 75$ cause the american market is Facked....... Otherwise Fun and good deck <3
@BasedDeckDept
@BasedDeckDept 3 күн бұрын
Glad you're enjoying the deck. To be fair it outperforms even that $75 price tag by about 5 times :D
@nokthar97
@nokthar97 3 күн бұрын
@@BasedDeckDept I can see that 😀 Keep up with the Great decks 🫡❤️
@BasedDeckDept
@BasedDeckDept 3 күн бұрын
@@nokthar97 Thank you friend 🙏
@garaktartv3647
@garaktartv3647 3 күн бұрын
Another based deck, thank you very much.
@BasedDeckDept
@BasedDeckDept 3 күн бұрын
🙏🙏 Glad you enjoyed it. Now on to the next one!
@danielharrison2383
@danielharrison2383 3 күн бұрын
did i mishear? i thought you said there were no other creatures.
@BasedDeckDept
@BasedDeckDept 3 күн бұрын
Good catch. I have since realized my mana rock creature error :D Melek does however hold down the fort all by himself 😁
@TheDevonshireMint
@TheDevonshireMint 3 күн бұрын
​@@BasedDeckDept But what about the 2 that are in your mana rocks section XD
@danielharrison2383
@danielharrison2383 3 күн бұрын
@@TheDevonshireMint that's what I was thinking about
@TheDevonshireMint
@TheDevonshireMint 3 күн бұрын
@@danielharrison2383 I know..lol
@BasedDeckDept
@BasedDeckDept 3 күн бұрын
Hahahahaha. You're right. I didn't even think of them as creatures. I stand corrected
@ssgod101
@ssgod101 5 күн бұрын
What card would you take out for Jeska's Will? The others upgrade options seem easy to fit in since there are similar roles to replace, but jeska's will would be a 4th ritual, and i assume we don't want to take out the spirit guide -> rite of flame -> desperate ritual combo.
@BasedDeckDept
@BasedDeckDept 5 күн бұрын
Yes I definitely wouldn't touch the Guide, Rite, Ritual synergy. A word of caution that I haven't tested Jeska's much, so how it fits in to the overall flow of the deck, I'm not sure. Could be clunky. That said, given it's part draw, I'd probably swap a draw spell. Highway Robbery, Demand Answers, etc. Cathartic Reunion would be my pick for the swap target.
@ssgod101
@ssgod101 5 күн бұрын
@@BasedDeckDept Thanks! What about spellseeker? (caved in and got one since it was not as expensive as the others). My guess would be muddle the mixture since its the only 3 mana tutor, but the flexibility of also being a counterspell makes it tempting to keep it.
@BasedDeckDept
@BasedDeckDept 5 күн бұрын
@@ssgod101 probably one of the card draw spells, maybe one of your cheap cantrips. The card draw really exists to assemble your combo, so if you've got another tutor you have less need for it. 90% of the time you want to go Stella -> Haste Enabler -> Wisps, so the need for the cantrips is minor.
@poldosfamily2490
@poldosfamily2490 7 күн бұрын
Did you test this deck? How many games did it win? How did it perform? In what pods?
@BasedDeckDept
@BasedDeckDept 7 күн бұрын
Yeah I did. I've played the deck a whole bunch. Too much to go into detail of different pods, at varying deck strengths, but the win rate is high, winning at least half the games I've play with it. The deck is very resilient. I've pulled out a win copying chandras ignition 4 times and using Sauron as the target.
@poldosfamily2490
@poldosfamily2490 6 күн бұрын
@@BasedDeckDept I like this deck, and i think i will buy that. Needed some answers 👍🏻
@BasedDeckDept
@BasedDeckDept 6 күн бұрын
@@poldosfamily2490 Hope you enjoy playing it! If you have any questions about playing it later, by all means ask.
@rohacjustrohac3581
@rohacjustrohac3581 8 күн бұрын
i feel like a boogeyman aswell, ive had a Reaper king player hold up a shapeshifter he could use to delete Felidar retreat of the Duskana, the Rage Mother and counter my Birthing pod which i wanted to use to search up enchantment removal to delete it from existance. He held his shapeshifter almost the entire game and casted it later into protection once we were alredy all dead facing Stampede of 11/11 cats and bears just becuse he was afraid of me doing something.
@benji2014
@benji2014 8 күн бұрын
This deck's game plan and combo is really interesting to me, great deck and video! I was wondering if there may be any room for Dizzy Spell (Transmute for 1 CMC card, Cerulean wisps/haste enabler) or Drift of Phantasms (Transmute for 3 CMC, Twisted Fealty/Twitch). I think it may make the threats a little more telegraphed, but I feel like these are also some really good and cheap cards to make tutoring for the combo more consistent. What do you think?
@BasedDeckDept
@BasedDeckDept 8 күн бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! You could definitely fit either card, although I'd personally only consider Dizzy Spell, as I much prefer the wisps line in the deck. Definitely worth it I think.
@dynogreen
@dynogreen 9 күн бұрын
Can you explain which cards you would replace with the "Key Upgrades" ones? (If you suddenly decided to up its power level). I'm very indecisive when it comes to that.
@BasedDeckDept
@BasedDeckDept 9 күн бұрын
It depends exactly which cards, but you can for the most part swap out something similar. Swap out You Find the Villain's Lair and Unwind for Swan Song and Fierce Guardianship. Swap out swamps for the nonbasic black lands, and swap out Mizzix Mastery in favour of Lier. Bowmasters if you have it can probably replace some removal like Dark Withering
@legendtito20
@legendtito20 9 күн бұрын
What to replace for the $$ upgrade mr based?
@BasedDeckDept
@BasedDeckDept 9 күн бұрын
It depends exactly which cards, but you can for the most part swap out something similar. Swap out You Find the Villain's Lair and Unwind for Swan Song and Fierce Guardianship. Swap out swamps for the nonbasic black lands, and swap out Mizzix Mastery in favour of Lier. Bowmasters if you have it can probably replace some removal like Dark Withering
@legendtito20
@legendtito20 4 күн бұрын
@@BasedDeckDept Thanks for clarifying, just built this and playing it today!
@BasedDeckDept
@BasedDeckDept 4 күн бұрын
@@legendtito20 Good luck! Hope you enjoy it
@keving.4650
@keving.4650 11 күн бұрын
Commandersalt has this at 7.3, which isn’t bad for a $100 budget. You could win cEDH pods out of nowhere if all the other players spend all their interaction countering all the other win cons.
@BasedDeckDept
@BasedDeckDept 11 күн бұрын
Yeah it arguably has the most chance of winning in a cEDH than any of my strong yet casual decks.
@zlwilson21
@zlwilson21 11 күн бұрын
As someone who upgraded the other Sauron precon and Rand it with this Sauron to dissatisfying results I definitely think this brew seems more promising and I will be looking to it for inspiration!
@BasedDeckDept
@BasedDeckDept 11 күн бұрын
Good luck! I wasn't a big fan of the Sauron precon, big fan of this Sauron though 😁
@Papiness
@Papiness 12 күн бұрын
cEDH is weird to me because unlike almost any other competitive card game it has no curated banlist to keep things "fair". All these infinite combos make it essentially solitaire and the multiplayer aspect becomes irrelevant most of the time. It becomes about building the most power creep infinite combos with emphasis on consistency to dish it out.
@BasedDeckDept
@BasedDeckDept 12 күн бұрын
To be fair to cEDH, I think it's arguably more balanced than casual EDH, because it's clear what the most broken things are, and it's no holds barred. None of the power level or social hi jinx to get through. All that said, this list is meant to be a cheap way to play against people with powerful decks below cEDH, as it's definitely not quite at cEDH level, nor could it be without thousands of dollars. Get's surprisingly close though.
@BudgetPubStomper-lr7nh
@BudgetPubStomper-lr7nh 12 күн бұрын
In my first comment I left the deck tech to one of my suggestion commanders for new to comp players (Kinnan). If you wanna see how it runs I have a video of gold fishing the deck; kzfaq.info/get/bejne/i9-TppCgrdjOmJs.htmlsi=Y_xeP7GjYriq6AWv
@BudgetPubStomper-lr7nh
@BudgetPubStomper-lr7nh 12 күн бұрын
Nice video. Great first attempt at a budget comp deck. If you are interested in what the “sub format” kinda looks like, take a look at my channel. Speed isn’t the only indication of power but a proactive $100 comp deck should look to consistently combo off turn 4. Some decks, like Meren, are a bit faster (maybe average turn 3.5) but there are midrange decks and stacks decks and even “tempo decks” that aren’t all in on fast combo. Here’s a good example of a list that can go fast (easily turn 4) but can grind and even beat people to death. My personal deck of choice is Malcom Kediss. But prob Kinnan would be a better deck for “budget comp beginner” kzfaq.info/get/bejne/p7l9orGpz6yVo5c.htmlsi=3BEiqxIthvfWgD2o Best way to play mtg period imho
@ManaMoot
@ManaMoot 12 күн бұрын
Nice Work!
@BasedDeckDept
@BasedDeckDept 12 күн бұрын
Thanks!
@ZargX76
@ZargX76 12 күн бұрын
Having built Baba as one of my first homebrew builds, seeing people talking about this commander is excellent.
@BasedDeckDept
@BasedDeckDept 12 күн бұрын
She's great! Hope you got something out of the video
@livanbard
@livanbard 12 күн бұрын
All 2 mana rocks that enter tapped will ONLY BRING YOU DOWN. Mfs are better off with IDK expedition map or something.
@BasedDeckDept
@BasedDeckDept 12 күн бұрын
Haha, given our curve they're really not that bad. The opportunity cost is very low.
@granite_4576
@granite_4576 12 күн бұрын
Yesterday I played a casual game with a Stella player. He said up front: " if I draw a card that goes infinite with Stella on its own I'll announce it, exile it and draw again" It happened twice in the game, and he still won 😂
@BasedDeckDept
@BasedDeckDept 12 күн бұрын
Stella with infinites is not a casual deck in any way 😂😂😂
@granite_4576
@granite_4576 12 күн бұрын
@@BasedDeckDept well like obviously not hence rulezeroing a draw around any combos. The point was deck variety for a final game because even he was sick of Rocco and a million triggers after 3 other games.
@BasedDeckDept
@BasedDeckDept 11 күн бұрын
@@granite_4576Yeah fair How did he win whilst avoiding his combos? Eris / Dragons?
@granite_4576
@granite_4576 10 күн бұрын
@@BasedDeckDept Niv mizzet shenanigans, alas.
@BasedDeckDept
@BasedDeckDept 10 күн бұрын
@@granite_4576 Alas indeed
@lawrenceclarke7404
@lawrenceclarke7404 12 күн бұрын
stumbled across this channel, now I know who to build next! thank you. Could you do a control based deck at some point? would be great to see
@BasedDeckDept
@BasedDeckDept 12 күн бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! Any particular commanders in mind?
@carlosrivera-ot9hf
@carlosrivera-ot9hf 13 күн бұрын
Please do your atla palani deck. 🙏
@BasedDeckDept
@BasedDeckDept 12 күн бұрын
Will do! My current one is far away from being budget. Would you prefer a budget build or the full cost one?
@carlosrivera-ot9hf
@carlosrivera-ot9hf 12 күн бұрын
Do the best budget one for the Chanel, and you can put your current in the description cause I’m curious on what your running 💪 ( I’m thinking on doing a atla one or your Sauron)
@user-ts7rf1up2g
@user-ts7rf1up2g 13 күн бұрын
Why no Counterspell?
@narkfly
@narkfly 13 күн бұрын
Too many pips in the casting cost for non mono-U.
@BasedDeckDept
@BasedDeckDept 13 күн бұрын
$2.50, double blue mana and slower than any of our one mana counters pushing our combo back a turn. The one mana counters typically perform the same function as a fully fledged counter on turn 4-5 as no one has two+ untapped mana after they've cast a spell attempting to stop us.
@user-ts7rf1up2g
@user-ts7rf1up2g 12 күн бұрын
@@BasedDeckDept Dominica Remastered version is about $1.
@user-ts7rf1up2g
@user-ts7rf1up2g 12 күн бұрын
@@BasedDeckDept also, Muddle the Mixture and Mission Briefing are already in the deck, so ...
@BasedDeckDept
@BasedDeckDept 12 күн бұрын
@@user-ts7rf1up2g Muddle the mixture doubles up as a tutor which far outweighs the value of Counterspell to me. And I don't mean that all double blue casting costs are bad. Mission briefing is great, although I hope I never have to cast it. I'm not against subbing in Counterspell, but this is why I won't be
@__-be1gk
@__-be1gk 13 күн бұрын
You are not on Star Trek you don't have to take a full second pause every 3-5 words
@BasedDeckDept
@BasedDeckDept 13 күн бұрын
How do you know I'm not on Star Trek?
@Zeyga
@Zeyga 3 күн бұрын
Don't listen to this guy BDD you take all the pauses you like
@nathancarlk
@nathancarlk 14 күн бұрын
Can you show what cards you would take out to replace for the upgrade?
@BasedDeckDept
@BasedDeckDept 14 күн бұрын
Yeah good suggestion. I'll do that in future videos. In this case it's safe to assume that cards would replace their cheaper / worse counterparts, one for one starting with the weakest or slowest cards in the category. For example, Fierce Guardianship would probably replace Negate, Pact of Negation could replace Daze. Then Dockside and Mox could replace our two worst mana rocks. You get the idea. If there's a specific card you're unsure about, I can tell you what I'd take out
@nathancarlk
@nathancarlk 13 күн бұрын
@BasedDeckDept thank you! Sometimes it takes several plays with a deck before I can gather what to repace.
@BasedDeckDept
@BasedDeckDept 13 күн бұрын
@@nathancarlk It's a pleasure. Happy to help!
@MisterWebb
@MisterWebb 14 күн бұрын
Are you actually “based”?
@BasedDeckDept
@BasedDeckDept 14 күн бұрын
Depends on your definition 😉
@MisterWebb
@MisterWebb 13 күн бұрын
@@BasedDeckDeptOK, subbed, but I would prefer it if you avoided female commanders and furries.
@BasedDeckDept
@BasedDeckDept 13 күн бұрын
@@MisterWebb You love to see it (re subbing). What about bears?
@MisterWebb
@MisterWebb 13 күн бұрын
@@BasedDeckDept I kind of don’t mind female spellcasters, but absolutely no female fighters. Quadrupedal bears are fine.
@starmanda88
@starmanda88 12 күн бұрын
@@BasedDeckDeptit’s a shit look to pander to people like that honestly.
@Kukyodragonfly
@Kukyodragonfly 15 күн бұрын
Very nice deck, though I was wondering why didn't you add March from the Black Gate? Seems like a good fit here.
@BasedDeckDept
@BasedDeckDept 15 күн бұрын
Thank you! Glad you liked it. March from the black gate is great, but it doesn't synergize with our graveyard or spell slinger strategies at all, and more importantly, combat damage is our secondary win condition, so this card will do nothing, or be quite slow 99% of the time since we are typically hiding behind our orc army and need it as a blocker.
@Akwaz0
@Akwaz0 15 күн бұрын
Heeey that's m'y deck ! I did the same and wincons thing but with Saruman as commander. Might try Sauron, he's in the 99
@BasedDeckDept
@BasedDeckDept 15 күн бұрын
🤜🤛 Saruman is fantastic. Good luck with Sauron!
@attackoncardboard
@attackoncardboard 16 күн бұрын
I've played with the Precon twice, in both games I have attacked for 40+ damage in a single turn as early as turn 5. Definitely have not had slow games with the deck.
@BasedDeckDept
@BasedDeckDept 15 күн бұрын
Maybe a case of player diff 😃as that's the polar opposite of what I've seen. What lines enable 40 damage by turn 5?
@attackoncardboard
@attackoncardboard 15 күн бұрын
@@BasedDeckDept handful of creatures into a Pyretic Charge. In my first game, I resolved a Rousing Refrain into Mizzix Mastery into this card. Extremely glass canon though. I was out of gas after that.
@mr.nakamura9088
@mr.nakamura9088 16 күн бұрын
This deck was too easy to build, I couldn't believe Stella was just $1 for the entire release month.
@BasedDeckDept
@BasedDeckDept 16 күн бұрын
She's a powerhouse, that's for sure. I don't know what's worse, that, or that the fumbled the build of the precon that badly. Not saying they should put infinites in the precon, but it doesn't do her justice at all.
@Jawzah
@Jawzah 11 күн бұрын
@@BasedDeckDept But wouldn't the rest of the precon being bad actually make her more expensive.. Less people bying multiples of the precon so not that many Stellas baing sold as singles? of course if the precon has OK other cards but just does not play well it might result in people who bought it being disappointed.. But I don't think there's easily much demand for any commander only card that's available in precons as long as the precons are available.. And I suppose Stella deck is just not that much fun to play in casual and if you really go for cEDH .. you'll mroe likely be buying the precon rather than a single - just too much trouble finding a singles seller - maybe -- or if you do bother bying and selling - you could be selling the cards you do not use from the precon..
@BasedDeckDept
@BasedDeckDept 11 күн бұрын
@@Jawzah fortunately the precon has a lot of decent staples so despite the construction being a bit wonky, lots of people have picked it up
@ursa64
@ursa64 16 күн бұрын
What I used to do, and I dont anymore because I unmade the deck to play in lower power tables, was to draw my entire deck, exile simian, play lotus petal, tap for 1 mana, sol ring, then red mana from simian and two from solring to play twisted fealty and thats it. it was pretty damn powerful, and my list was like 4 dollars above 100.
@BasedDeckDept
@BasedDeckDept 16 күн бұрын
Yeah this build definitely isn't a low power casual deck We're basically doing the same thing with Simian, Petal, Sol ring, and Simian, Rite and Ritual aka draw deck = free Twisted Fealty. Which cards in my list did you omit to fit the petal?
@jemm113
@jemm113 16 күн бұрын
Love the bit at the beginning about the precon because that was my EXACT issue with playing it 😂 And that land count was atrocious! Definitely making it my Eris deck, and thankfully I have most pieces for the true cEDH version and even then I would play it in proxy-friendly tournaments (I’m for sure missing volcanic island, and I’m not sure if the list runs grim monolith, intuition, or time twister but those are the Ur staples I’m missing; I do have all the other cEDH ramp and free counters however!)
@BasedDeckDept
@BasedDeckDept 16 күн бұрын
Glad I was on the money! Wish I was in your shoes in having all those cedh staples
@danielharrison2383
@danielharrison2383 16 күн бұрын
"STELLA!"
@BasedDeckDept
@BasedDeckDept 16 күн бұрын
STELLAR!
@jemm113
@jemm113 16 күн бұрын
One point for editing: it would be good to show the cards on screen as you mention them so people don’t have to tab and look them up as you discuss them. I like how you highlighted them in the decklist to show their concentrations, but doubling it with a cutaway or overlay to show some or all the cards mentioned, in full with name, art, and text, will add to the readability (and thus engagement) of the video. Regardless, that was an excellent primer on a frankly much better Sauron build than most I’ve seen! Keep up the good work, man!
@BasedDeckDept
@BasedDeckDept 16 күн бұрын
Appreciate the feedback. Will contemplate trying to work that in!
@exilenl
@exilenl 17 күн бұрын
Some criticism for a small, growing channel. Your thumbnail makes me not want to look at your vid. I'm so sick of 'you're doing it wrong' bs. Who the fuck are you to say we're doing it wrong? why not just present it as an 'have you looked at it this way?' Anywat, that's my gripe with a lot of videos. It's meant to be constructive, do with it what you will
@Supportivechaos
@Supportivechaos 19 күн бұрын
I went for a slightly different build of flavour town- I just played cards that I think Sauron would have played- so like cruel ultimatum, omniscience, the court monarch cycle and just a bunch of fun overcosted but flashy cards- the deck works fine for lower power and gets to be a fun but ultimately clunky deck that I just have a great time with- love your work on this list though and it makes me want to try and make a storm build with sauron-
@BasedDeckDept
@BasedDeckDept 19 күн бұрын
Glad you enjoyed the video, thanks! Also, happy you found a flavour led list that you enjoy! Love the idea of thinking about cards Sauron might have played
@rosel953
@rosel953 19 күн бұрын
This is insane quality for such a small channel, I hope to see you grow.
@BasedDeckDept
@BasedDeckDept 19 күн бұрын
Thank you 🙏 Glad you enjoyed it
@SwedeRacerDC
@SwedeRacerDC 20 күн бұрын
I like the different build to Sauron. I would like to see more specific highlights as it's hard to see what you're doing with the deck in a phone screen, but I get the idea. Definitely a neat way to build it
@TheSandwhichman108
@TheSandwhichman108 20 күн бұрын
Here’s a question for everyone. What’s your favorite color pairing? Mine is Blue/Green because I like summoning big creatures and ramping which is what green does best. I also like busting out big sea monsters which is what blue does best when it’s not annoying people with counter spells. In other words I simply like summoning big creatures.
@PoliticalWEasel
@PoliticalWEasel 15 күн бұрын
It was black and red because I have a natural willingness to sacrifice my own creatures, like green I can get big creatures quickly just at a cost of my own life or some other penalty
@kennyrazor81
@kennyrazor81 22 күн бұрын
no board wipe? and im not seeing an answer for artifacts either i got hit in a 4 player game with ensaring bridge
@BasedDeckDept
@BasedDeckDept 22 күн бұрын
Widespread Brutality, Immolating Gyre and Chandras Ignition all wipe the board, noting that the only time a board wipe is typically needed in this deck is when someone goes very wide. 95% of the time a 10/10 or bigger orc, and a 7/6 Sauron means people don't want to attack into you. Then as for artifact removal. That's true, but most artifacts don't hinder our strategy too much. In the case of Ensnaring Bridge, we don't need to attack, as we can easily end the game with our primary win conditions in Chandras, Gravitic Punch, or Soul's Fire.
@kennyrazor81
@kennyrazor81 22 күн бұрын
@@BasedDeckDept thank you that is fair, really appreciate the response as I dont contribute the time needed to learn new cards sigh... im old, im just checking out the dan-dan deck and im soooo intrigued a 25 year long magic friend told me about it on shuffle up and play prof/brian had rhystic studies on his show to show it and it looks fun. I used to be pooperdix ( pauper decks ) but changed my channel name to pirate homebrew and gaming.
@Panic_Wot
@Panic_Wot 22 күн бұрын
I went full flavour on my Sauron deck, and it was TERRIBLE. Easily my worst deck, despite the big expensive cards. This seems like a great re-tool of it. I'm keeping my Nazgul tho.
@BasedDeckDept
@BasedDeckDept 22 күн бұрын
Have fun rebuilding your Sauron deck I have a nazgul deck with Lord of the Nazgul in the command zone. I think there's a high likelihood that I'll take it apart and make it a Sauron led nazgul reanimator build which I'll make a video about.
@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299
@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299 22 күн бұрын
I like this deck way better than my buddies ''boardwipe tribal'', guy just put in a bunch of boardwipes and called it a day, I did the same and rarely play against that deck LOL ;p
@BasedDeckDept
@BasedDeckDept 22 күн бұрын
Boardwipe tribal is such a bad time. Hopefully your friend decides they like having friends more than they like having boardwipes
@Niviuz
@Niviuz 23 күн бұрын
just want to add, your speaking...... waiting.... and then..... talking seem..... almost........ arogant or....... even slightly...... pomopus..........and quite..........annnoying......to listen to.......
@johnnyborbon5085
@johnnyborbon5085 23 күн бұрын
I built my sauron a little heavier on the amass subtheme using the war of the spark cards that give the army keywords such as flying or trample, adding sac outlets that benefit from a tall army to get value in case I cant swing with my army (Shadowheart, Ghoulcaller Gisa) and keeping some light LOTR flavour as I'm a huge fan of the franchise. Will definitely take a look at this take on Sauron, I've been thinking about switching to a more reanimator focused build but I can't bring myself to let go of the LOTR Flavour and the uiniqueness of an amass-focused commander build