love to see you run one of the knockoff 9.0s with this tool as it's already so big you won't notice the bulk
@vladnickul14 күн бұрын
A TEST DIAL CANNOT BE USED LIKE THAT. you are introducing a TON of error.
@bunyanforgings784915 күн бұрын
Feinfrase. Frase, usually refers to a router. Although in this case it probably refers to a rotary tool / mill. So, fine mill. Cheers.
@charrelson61418 күн бұрын
or write the purchase date on the battery.
@charrelson61418 күн бұрын
It would be really nice if you tested all the batteries so we can see how long each battery lasts.
@tomt9543Ай бұрын
Am I the only one who thinks it’s funny that @ 15:34, the drive belt is labeled “do not bend”?
@unpublishable4091Ай бұрын
hmmmmm I am looking for some kind of small chop saw to cut some 1 inch chrome plated stainless steel tube. What do you recommend? The Proxxon KGS80 is the right size, but does not cut straight enough. Does the M12 bandsaw come with a chop saw adapter?
@Kermit198007Ай бұрын
Bad comparison. Those two models are so different that this comparison isn't worth much. Sorry.
@jajordan2515251Ай бұрын
thanks for the time you took to make this. Very informative and gave me information to make some choices on batteries for this fan I couldn't find anywhere else.
@bastian6173Ай бұрын
Could you explain why the milling table seems to wobble at around the 5 minute mark? It's constantly going left right. First thought I didn't look right. But it doesn't seem to be the camera. Any idea?
@H20ToieАй бұрын
Just what i need, you should market them since that bandsaw is so popular
@worldwide1376Ай бұрын
Wow, a lot of wobble on the x y-axis table.
@nathkrupa3463Ай бұрын
Sir go for makita best tough strong 💪 Great
@sandipsengupta18322 ай бұрын
Clever and useful with a bit of genius thrown in.
@vladnickul2 ай бұрын
You are adjust the "jib" wrong, that's why you don't have consistent results.
@marceloiannini81992 ай бұрын
I have a older brushed Milwaukee M12 and also a battery Proxxon IBS/A. For me, the most significant difference is just what you haven’t shown: the proxxon uses a correctly engineered spindle with two bearings on a precision shaft. This results in much quieter operation, less noise, LESS VIBRATION (yours hands will not get so sore, so numb, so fast), less run-out and better overall job quality, as this tool is much more controllable. The Milwaukee is good (battery tools are a game changer). I bought the Proxxon because the bearing of my Milwaukee died. I replaced the bearing, but it’s quite hard to press it correctly, now it wobbles too much.
@RoomForTools2 ай бұрын
The new brushless tool has low vibration. Probably because it has tighter specs since the body of the tool has to hold the rotor dead centre.
@BluesHavvk12 ай бұрын
clean your mouth up...
@viggosimonsen2 ай бұрын
Doesn't look encouraging
@seanguy97203 ай бұрын
Great video! I bought XC 5.0 batteries just for this fan and I’m happy with them
@tregaricus003 ай бұрын
thanks for the video sir! do you know if the dremel flexi shaft is compatible with the milwaukee?
@RoomForTools3 ай бұрын
Pretty certain it is compatible. The collets are also Dremel standard.
@alanodonovan39192 ай бұрын
@@RoomForToolsit deffo is, as is everything else. I have the milwaukee brushless and the dremel flexi. Fits a treat. As do all the other dremel accessories I have.
@samj11853 ай бұрын
nice vid. you ever tried a 7.25" diamond blade to cut carbon fiber, tile etc.?
@procrastinator18423 ай бұрын
Good video! To be honest I thought the saw would be closer to 500W output with the 5.0HO. They have just released a gen 2 Saw...it will be interesting to see the difference!
@RoomForTools3 ай бұрын
Thanks! That new saw looks more compact and is a bit lighter, though the lower blade guard is plastic, not metal like the 1st generation. Perhaps new tools can better utilize the HO batteries... I now have the 3rd and 2nd generation drills and impact drivers to compare... videos forthcoming in the summer.
@ntag4113 ай бұрын
I like your terminology, lectrons. 😁😁
@HowRay3 ай бұрын
Just discovered this review on the FF230. Don't know where I've been....lost I guess. Anyway, very in depth and useful. Thanks for what you do.
@colincreedtattoomachines4 ай бұрын
Supposedly that particular collet style for the FF 230 is based on a Euro "standard" & given Proxxon is German, that would make perfect sense. Remember too this Mill design is quite old & so all of it's features (collets included) needed to be "backwards compatible" to all the earlier models, however Proxxon has just recently (late 2023) released an "upgraded" version FF 250/BL that features an ER 16 collet system as well as a variable motor like the better FF 500/BL uses. The variances within your speed tests could be explained by your motor being the 110V-60Hz version whereas Euro is 240V-50Hz I have the same FF 230 as you & being in Australia, we're 240V-50Hz & my speeds are very close to the "sticker". As others have already mentioned, that "wood" motor pulley is in fact a Phenolic/fibre composite.
@RoomForTools4 ай бұрын
I wish the now FF250/BL was available in the 120V market. You are correct about the speed differences, different motor. I also think their literature translation department needs a bit of attention as the speeds listed in the manual do not match the speeds on the decal.
@colincreedtattoomachines4 ай бұрын
@@RoomForTools I'm sure the FF 250/BL will be "USA compatible" in due course...my only concern with this FF 250/BL is its speed range doesn't go as low as our version, starting at 400 RPM is much too high for my current needs ...I like the much lower speed when using both a small boring head & fly cutter.
@ErtsenPlayGames4 ай бұрын
it could be cool to modify it to ER collet , spindle shaft for it look pretty simple , maybe its possible to find ER extension "rod" with same diameter and make it work
@RoomForTools4 ай бұрын
Usovo.de has spindle upgrades for the little MF70. I wish an ER collet spindle upgrade was available for this mill.
@_f3553 ай бұрын
I have machined an ER16 adapter for this mill, it is rather straightforward to do if you also have a lathe - I, in fact, have PD250-PF230 combo. the main "trick" I used was to turn the M20x1.5 thread, then spin the blank on the spindle and mill-turn the OD in place to get it as concentric with the spindle as possible, then re-mount the blank in the 4-jaw chuck in the lathe, indicate it REALLY well and machine the rest of the features (16º included taper and M22x1.5 thread for the ER16A nut, which I bought separately). with that done, the tool runout is under 0.01mm with quality collets. another option would be to remove the spindle, open it up for the ER16 taper, and re-machine the thread for ER16M nut, which is M19x1.0. the existing M20x1.5 thread has 18.676mm minor diameter, so the new thread is going to look ugly, but I don't see why it won't work.
@TorteTS4 ай бұрын
The FF400 and FF500 has ER collets.
@RoomForTools4 ай бұрын
I wish the FF500 was available in the 120V market. Hopefully some day.
@WolfJustWolf3 ай бұрын
The FF250 as well. One of the reasons I went with that instead of the FF230. The higher rpm from the brushless motor was the other major reason.
@tomt95434 ай бұрын
This thing does a good job on everything I’ve tried to cut on it! Cons? The 90 degree detent is ridiculously inaccurate, and I block the toggle lever open so I can lock it down at a true 90, 45, whatever. And the blade guard is terrible! A pain to accurately cut to a line because you nearly have to stand on your head to see it!
@RoomForTools4 ай бұрын
Sucks. Mine seems ok at 90. I usually keep the blade guard screw out so I can lift the guard for a better view.
@tomt95434 ай бұрын
@@RoomForTools Me too!
@tomt95434 ай бұрын
So how do you like the mill now that you’ve had it awhile?
@RoomForTools4 ай бұрын
I like it, for a mill that I can pick up and put on a shelf when I am not using it! Not much out there in that regard, only the Sherline that I am aware of. The Sherline looks pretty cool and well thought through. Though it does not have a quill feed for drilling. The Taig is pretty cool too, though quite a bit heavier, would need a permanent spot in my estimation.
@kbilsky4 ай бұрын
😍 Astonishing!
@kbilsky4 ай бұрын
Pulley at 12:00 is made out of textolite, not wood :)
@RoomForTools4 ай бұрын
Yup. A quick image search reveals that textolite rod has rings, superficially looking like wood.
@tomt95434 ай бұрын
“A grinder & paint, make me the welder I ain’t!” Lol. Not bad for a first attempt, but tacking the knuckle grater is a challenge for even the most experienced welder! I’m late to the party, and your skills have probably improved over the last 3 years, but when you strike the arc, don’t immediately start moving! Let the arc build heat in the base metal and deposit a puddle big enough to connect both sides of the joint. One of the first things you need to learn is to distinguish between the molten metal and the molten slag. That and when striking an arc, it’s easier to do if you mimic striking a match instead of tapping straight in! Just a couple hints from a retired certified welder. Now go back and reweld the bottom joint on that chair! Lol
@machinist_matt4 ай бұрын
Always enjoy watching your videos. 👍 I think it's unlikely that the collets are proprietary. I imagine production costs would be too expensive for the relatively small numbers that proxxon sells. At a guess, they look like "EOC" or "OZ" series collets. 🙂
@RoomForTools4 ай бұрын
Thanks! Both EOC and OZ series have lips larger in diameter than the taper, and their taper angle is 5°44' included vs Proxxon's ~8°.
@barryorbik21512 күн бұрын
Always thought they were oz collets I have the full set of proxxon collets for this mill plus three imperial collets 1/8 - 1/4 - 3/8 all identical in outer dimensions they have a tiny notch at the rear end to identify as a/f nothing to do with proxxon i don't think
@SimplyChem324 ай бұрын
This is exactly the test I was looking for! Thanks so much for posting this.
@graciebonsai72724 ай бұрын
Correction, a 3/8"-16 bolt.
@graciebonsai72724 ай бұрын
I like your ideas! I've been making some modifications to my 1x42 Kalamazoo sander and found that a long 3/8-20 bolt can be attached to the idler wheel's threaded through hole to make pushing down on the tension spring easier than pushing on the safety housing.
@daynosdr4 ай бұрын
dock them down or deck them down? camphor or chamfered?
@hermankopinga4 ай бұрын
Sorry to bother, there is an extra R in your spelling of the word screws in the title.
@RoomForTools4 ай бұрын
Fixed! Thanks.
@stant45804 ай бұрын
been looking all over to fix the y-axis nodding problem, thank you. Also I feel that I have to take the whole thing, column and all, off the table and lay it on its side, so the head is snug inside the column block, to do x-axis adjustment. So that it doesn't give me more nodding!
@RoomForTools4 ай бұрын
Yeh... I wish the head had some sort of fine adjust for perpendicular.
@Md-Rashedul-Islam9695 ай бұрын
Thank You
@jcmprml5 ай бұрын
Mine seems to jerk randomly at the lowest 5k rpm setting. Can you confirm this with yours if it does the same ?
@RoomForTools5 ай бұрын
Mine too. I thought it might have been something to do with fitment when I put it back together; that something got slightly misaligned. But it only happens at the lowest speed.
@statussymbol41902 ай бұрын
Thats normal with brushless tools. At least the ones I held in my hand all do that. If I remember correctly, then it has something to do with the ESC not being the highest quality or the Motor just not getting enough juice.
@willnggg19815 ай бұрын
Expecting Part 3😊😊
@RoomForTools5 ай бұрын
Coming in April.
@luckynyaa28265 ай бұрын
So 4.0 is still good) Thanks for the video.
@RoomForTools5 ай бұрын
For this blower and the Rover Flood Light, yeh there is little benefit to using HO batteries. For other tools, see my other videos!
@jairotapia4985 ай бұрын
Just bought one two days ago and saw today the “Tool show” and they just happened to mention this video, this is amazing please keep making more of these.
@mjscpr5 ай бұрын
Very well explained thanks
@vexor75 ай бұрын
Really cool little setup man, I need to check out those erem pliers. Keep up the great work!
@luckynyaa28265 ай бұрын
Thank you. Just bought milwaukee. Good tool. Happy that technology is advancing rapidly.
@WrkshpGarage5 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing. Interesting specs you provided, especially the details on air speed differences. This is a useful blower. Certainly not for the lawn, but I’ve been using for clearing sawdust when working outside, off the sawhorses and tools. Also easy to hold when on a ladder for blowing leaves out of the gutters. I have some of the HO 2.5 batteries. Performance basically same as 3.0 compact. For the blower I’ve been using the XC 6.0 batteries which weren’t tested here. Guess they would perform same as the HO 5.0 did.
@RoomForTools5 ай бұрын
Thanks. I use mine most for lawn clippings on the walkways, sweeping off the patio and the garage, powerful enough and light and nimble. My M18 blower is for spring cleaning and snow removal. The M18 is a beast in comparison to the M12. I have heard negative things about the 6.0 batteries, that they go out of balance easy. So, I have not added any to my collection. YMMV.
@JekyllInside5 ай бұрын
I have mine with a XC6.0 and it's been running without issues. I prefer run time over performance in this case, since I use it for small cleaning applications like removing leaves without blowing mulch or dusting my baseboards.
@RoomForTools5 ай бұрын
Yeh. It would seem that the XC6.0 should provide about as much air speed as the XC5.0HO (perhaps 4% less). I have just avoided 6.0s because I have not found a deal on them and I read in a few places on the intertube that they are more prone to going out of balance than XC4.0s. YMMV.
@johnb169395 ай бұрын
great test! do you find that the m12 fuel series motors can utilize the HOs better than brushed? with m18 apparently fuel models can somehow take better advantage of the HOs. non-fuel tools HO doesnt seems to matter vs non HO...or so i've been told. probably not related to the motor but rather the circuitry.
@RoomForTools5 ай бұрын
Thanks. I will be posting more test videos, though I do not have many brushed tools. The control of power into brushless motors is determined/limited by computer control while brushed motors have much simpler power regulation.