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@MrGerryoc
@MrGerryoc 10 күн бұрын
Turn music off real time very annoying
@rogereastman3187
@rogereastman3187 2 ай бұрын
I'm like you, don't want to spend a ton...thank you for this down to earth, caring, sharing video. I subscribed....wish you would have cranked it up for us !!! Anyway, I'm contemplating the shorter cut, by cutting out the old pushrods, and installing new adjustable ones. I haven't yet priced them, so, I'm not sure, but it seems to me it will cut out a bunch of extra work. I know S&S makes them...who knows to I may not do that if they are way too expensive.... Thanks again...loved it
@motsigman
@motsigman 3 ай бұрын
Bet the Oil was full of glitter.
@user-uk4sk5io3h
@user-uk4sk5io3h 4 ай бұрын
What mileage resulted in the tensioner failure
@t.santos9807
@t.santos9807 4 ай бұрын
Great video, guys!
@rodrigoantunes3867
@rodrigoantunes3867 4 ай бұрын
Hey guys! How many hours of labor is charged when doing this job? Just wondering cause I’m buying a 2001 with 11.000km on the clock and I would like to use this as argument and ask for a discount. The seller already mentioned the concern pointed by his mechanic. Thanks for it and congrats for the video. Cheers
@stonefreeblues
@stonefreeblues 4 ай бұрын
dealer is gonna charge crazy money. Better off with an independent. we both did our ourselves and have even done another buddy's for him. My advise would be to find someone local to you and see if they'll hook you up. It's not hard at all.
@jamesrichards3034
@jamesrichards3034 5 ай бұрын
Great video, but one question. On the lifters you point out that the oil pressure hole points inboard, as to another video by a professional, says they go on outboard side. Not sure it matters, just pointing that out.
@TimBarnett-pl9kd
@TimBarnett-pl9kd 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, I just put my Harley engine parts across my wife's stolen ironing board! I bet your wife loves you? Haha! See how you can change out round form upper rocket box filters on the cheap?
@robertturriff9836
@robertturriff9836 5 ай бұрын
No lock tight?
@valjatriogina228
@valjatriogina228 6 ай бұрын
Going cheap 😂 why didn't you replace the cam bearings as well? I would have inspected the oil pump as well, as the debris from the broken tensioner probably found its way through the pump! When installing the cam plate its much easier, when the inner tensioner isnt under tension !
@stonefreeblues
@stonefreeblues 6 ай бұрын
he ended up going back in and doing all of that with hydraulic
@wooddawg4868
@wooddawg4868 8 ай бұрын
Old Harley Davidson engineers were idiots, the designed bikes that are overpriced, overly labor intensive, overly hot, and still using 1940s/1950s technology to this day here in 2023. They have a modern engine they can roll across the entire line that eliminates intensive labor and breakdowns, less moving parts with the Revolution Max platform. HD let BMW, Honda, Indian, and Yamaha kick their butts in the longevity, cooler running, smoother, shifting, and less maintenance department.
@user-pr4gg9fi4t
@user-pr4gg9fi4t 8 ай бұрын
Good information, music way to loud
@robertrodriguez2412
@robertrodriguez2412 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video! Do you have to align the oil pump? Or you don't, because you didn't remove it from the cam plate? The hole on the lifters go positioned towards the engine? Thanks!
@satan66601
@satan66601 9 ай бұрын
Eeaeaeeaeaeaeèèaaaaaaaaèa2
@georgeveneziano2754
@georgeveneziano2754 10 ай бұрын
I know your long done but why not go hydraulic tensioner your already in the cam chest
@stonefreeblues
@stonefreeblues 10 ай бұрын
he ended up doing it later lol
@ivanyurkinov
@ivanyurkinov 10 ай бұрын
cant remember where i read it but there was a person who said they run fine with out the shoes in place. and when you really think about it the only clue is the poor idle and the noise from the slop. as long as you done idle it low it wont stall and i would not attempt it with my machine. but i will be checking crank run out to determine if a gear drive is viable. mines a early 99 low 9020s under the back order bikes range. had the chest open at 18 looked new. 34 im breaking her down ...cant take the chance for the low cost of the parts compared to the engine. the time kinda blows but its paying dues for all those years of rides i guess..
@willymueller3278
@willymueller3278 Жыл бұрын
Hi folks ! The music is way too loud ! And when I put the volume down, almost to zero, I can' t hear you anymore.
@MrTheDays1
@MrTheDays1 10 ай бұрын
Yup😂
@stephensadlonsj.2837
@stephensadlonsj.2837 Жыл бұрын
Good video. Also loved the music. Please reference the music artists.
@dart451kad
@dart451kad Жыл бұрын
Can I rent the tools for this job please? Let me know what I need to do...thank you.
@martyanders4214
@martyanders4214 Жыл бұрын
With that outer shoe gone. It's a GOOD idea to check the oil pump.
@stonefreeblues
@stonefreeblues Жыл бұрын
yeah...a few weeks later he went in an did the full on hydraulic upgrade.
@shannonhughes1048
@shannonhughes1048 Жыл бұрын
Just here for the girls. Their cuteness is eternal.
@harry-qy2fz
@harry-qy2fz Жыл бұрын
Mine is an 06 injector... is it possible to upgrade the cam maybe S&S 509 while changing the tensioner without upgradimlng the whole plate..
@stonefreeblues
@stonefreeblues Жыл бұрын
yeah, you can just change the tensioners. Go ahead and change the cam bearings out while you're in there.
@harry-qy2fz
@harry-qy2fz Жыл бұрын
@@stonefreeblues is it worth it to change the whole plate/pump etc? What difference could it make anyway
@stonefreeblues
@stonefreeblues Жыл бұрын
@@harry-qy2fz Mine is an 04 and HATES synthetic oil. The oil light would stay on for a few seconds until pressure built up. I put on a Fueling kit with hydraulic tensioners and a high flow oil pump. No issues since. $1k doing it myself.
@richardknott2021
@richardknott2021 Жыл бұрын
Inner cam bearings..
@johncasor9698
@johncasor9698 Жыл бұрын
i did a base gasket job and the harley gaskets leaked on the rockers bottom part oil everywhere wow so i did it again and it leaked again so i tried james gaskets they were thicker and it sealed good, but over the many years of doing these i found the best gaskets for a tiny bit more money is the Cometic Gasket ,,, 1999-2006 harley had a very sharp edge on the chain that cut into the fibers of the guide and tensioners. get a good chain no sharp edges..
@johncasor9698
@johncasor9698 Жыл бұрын
i have a easy question: don't you agree that for $134 you can buy S&S adjustable push tubes... and to pull off the head covers and to buy gaskets and do all that work i think you should pay the $134 and learn how to install them and you will save a ton of money and time if you ever have to remove the push rods for whatever reason in the future...
@echevarriawilson
@echevarriawilson Жыл бұрын
I wonder if it's worth trying to change the system to a gear drive if you're run out is in spec. I have an 09' street glide with a 96ci and I'm thinking of this option. I do have the hydraulic tensioner, I'm just wondering if it's worth it for me.
@georgeveneziano2754
@georgeveneziano2754 10 ай бұрын
No it's not you do not have the timkin barring you will blow up your moter. Stay with hydraulic tensioner. You can still change your cams but be careful
@pineappledave9959
@pineappledave9959 Жыл бұрын
NIce job I'm really interested in renting out the tensioner wrench and sprocket lock , if they are still available. I wrench on all my vehicles not by choice but necessity, who knew huh
@manny1470
@manny1470 Жыл бұрын
Very well done. You guys pretty much covered it.
@ruger45hollowpoint
@ruger45hollowpoint Жыл бұрын
I have always known those "c clips" by the term external snap ring.
@carlbarker2068
@carlbarker2068 Жыл бұрын
I would like to know the name of the tool used for the secondary tensioner removal. I have looked everywhere and can't find one.
@vh8765
@vh8765 Ай бұрын
Hey bud, did you find that tool? If so where?
@l.douglasthomsen1140
@l.douglasthomsen1140 Жыл бұрын
One thing I noticed you guys didn't do? Maybe you did and didn't show it, or I missed it? Lol! On the cam plate there is a spring loaded slider that also needs to be checked for foreign particles that may cause the slider to stop in it's tracks! Which causes it to not seal properly. Other than that, it's a great DIY Video. Thumbs up and I joined the Circle Jerk, and I ain't applyin' for the job of Pivot Man!! Lmfao!!! We can leave that position open for the ladies! Hope I don't get nailed for that comment?!
@elliottnunez1057
@elliottnunez1057 Жыл бұрын
I would love to rent the Tensioner wrench sprocket lock and lifter magnets. Im probably not going to mess with the lifters and don't want them falling in the motor!! Not sure yey about the bearings yet. I will check them when I get it apart. Im disabled so I definitely can't afford a Mechanic or too many parts or else I would do the SS upgrade. there is even a cheaper way to go with the CYCO shoes and you use the stock parts just change out the shoes I think last time i checked they were 17 bucks for both! I havent cracked the chest yet, probably literally tomorrow! I've got a 20 year old bike I just bought with 24000 miles and didn't know about the tensioners until i started looking at the shop manual. Don't want to grenade the motor I already have a boat anchor!
@elliottnunez1057
@elliottnunez1057 Жыл бұрын
From watching the video the only thing Im afraif of is A the lifters falling in. I know you can take a stationary type big paper clip to hold up the lifters or use magnets. and B even more confusing is puting the chain and gears back on. I know the little dots on the gears must line up with each other and the line on the plate, but I dont know about if the first or second cylinder needs to be at TDC?? I think there's something on the top gear that need to line up also.....I think. LoL
@langstonjones69
@langstonjones69 Жыл бұрын
Man, I had absolutely zero issues with the music. Very well done and sometimes you just can't please the Kawasaki Karens trying to convert to grown up scooters.
@stonefreeblues
@stonefreeblues Жыл бұрын
right on man!
@Tatorvision
@Tatorvision Жыл бұрын
Turn down the music, having to manually adjust to be able to hear you sucks…
@stonefreeblues
@stonefreeblues Жыл бұрын
can't edit it after uploading...sorry dude
@dudleydorite7678
@dudleydorite7678 Жыл бұрын
Lol
@KevinFreist
@KevinFreist Жыл бұрын
love it guys. im a poor bastard too. i have many older vehicles that have continued to reliably roll for us. same approach. and to go cheap on parts will save you nothing. in fact could end up costing more. but what about those old inner cam bearings?
@JeffinTD
@JeffinTD Жыл бұрын
Nice video. I know it’s intended as cheap repair for close to home bike, but as much debris that one lost… I’d suggest buying one more gasket and taking the oil pan down to clean it, along with the passages to the pan and to the filter. Would also be good to inspect the oil pump.
@scottjohnson7495
@scottjohnson7495 Жыл бұрын
All Harleys are junk get a Honda
@jeffwilcox3927
@jeffwilcox3927 Жыл бұрын
I am interested in renting the tool for the tensioner removal I can not find one to buy anywhere
@jflory0207
@jflory0207 Жыл бұрын
I am interested on renting the tensioner wrench and sprocket lock if it might still be possible. I need to change my tensioners out but trying to keep it all the same.
@MrMedinab
@MrMedinab Жыл бұрын
Excellent but I did not see where you replaced the bearings for the cam shafts
@joanstehlik235
@joanstehlik235 11 ай бұрын
He mentioned taking the bike to the dealer to have bearings installed for 100 bucks
@RanGer-498
@RanGer-498 Жыл бұрын
Any links to the parts you purchased? Thanks
@BarnstormerTaylor
@BarnstormerTaylor 2 жыл бұрын
I am a twin cam guy. My 2000 FXDWG chews up tensioners like dog toys. Hell I ran it once 25,000 miles with both tensioners in the pan . And it ran until i overheated it and had to break it down. Now with new pistons and tensioner's it ate another one in break in , I don't think my bike wants them in there, because it will run fine without them. Yea, the machine shop guys who do my heads and cylinders cant believe i will run it loose, and not be worrying about it. This time im going to go with a S&S cam-plate, and go with the newer tensioners that are not such a pain to install, if it eats those its gonna be a loose bike forever. The twin cam is a great engine if you know how to tune your Mikuni, I have 80'000 miles on mine and it has never left me stranded, and usually runs when others don't.. Nice video, you take it apart enough times you can do it in a hour. Nothing wrong with the music either
@aa3nk
@aa3nk Жыл бұрын
That's the way I used to approach new things, do it once to learn how to do it and then the second time to get it right... and if a third time came up, everything went very fast and with confidence. Meanwhile, there is a reason why your stuff is not lining up right... and it is probably crankshaft related. But, WTF, if it's running, ride it!
@djdcosmic
@djdcosmic 2 жыл бұрын
🤘😐🤞
@ronrobertson59
@ronrobertson59 2 жыл бұрын
I know these twin cams will start with the outside cam tensioner shoe missing I have an 05 FLSTC in my shop right now (05-2022) a guy brought me who thought it was his carburetor making it backfire. I've worked on enough Twin Cams to make my sell both mine. I'll stick with my 72 FLH and 98 Evo FLSTF plus they have no computer to screw up on ya. Good video thanks.
@idessaoutlaw
@idessaoutlaw Жыл бұрын
No💩👌 Ron.. I'm still riding my 72 FLH for 50 years now. 🥃😎👌
@frankmarkovcijr5459
@frankmarkovcijr5459 2 жыл бұрын
My vintage Airhead BMW motorcycles from the 70s all have Cam chains with automatically properly tension as soon as you start up the bike attraction air fills up with oil from the pressure of the bike running and it adjust the change in the proper tension and my BMW 100 / 7 1977 what is on the verge of hitting 500,000 miles with the original cam chain until the car pulled out in front of me and my motorcycle went right to her passenger door. I could not imagine going through what you guys would twin-cam go through. My vintage 1970s motorcycles are much more reliable than Harleys made 50 years later. My100 / 7 had a factory approved all day speed of 125 miles an hour. That was 1250 RPM short of Redline. But of course any of my Airhead BMWs running at Redline are still smoother than a Harley at idle. My gear drive Harley Sportster air cooled has about three hundred and seventy thousand miles on her. She was my first Harley and I was surprised at how reliable she was and how good a trekking up the miles. I wish I could reopen a Kansas City plant and make air-cooled sportsters with carburetors and V-Rod motors for people to put and whatever fights they want to put into. Plus I would love putting all those people back to work. At Triumph in the old days on Sunday people could not wait to get back to work on Monday so they can build more Triumph. In the 50s and 60s Triumph had almost nothing for warranty claims because people just get fast because they loved going to work everyday. That's why they fought so hard against the closure and they were right because they should have closed the Wolverhampton plants that built Norton's and transferred the protection to Norton's to the BS a plant. Now just like BS a Triumph did in the 70s they consider their customers to be unpaid test drivers to find out what problems they have with their motorcycles after they've spent $25,000 on a motorcycle. My dad had a knucklehead that he bought for $500 out the door before World War and it came with a certificate that it was 110 miles an hour right off the factory floor. He had that certificate on the wall in the hallway to the day he died. It is such a sorry State of Affairs that Harley-Davidson makes such crap nowadays when they used to make such great fights and to tell you the truth they embarrass themselves so much they should really just admit everything and just go out of business. You could buy any type of motor from a flathead to an Eeveelution motor from S&S aticha great motor and you could get the frame you want to seat medley you want everything that you want powder-coated to color you want put it all together and it would be much less than what you pay for the crap that Harley-Davidson puts out today. All Harley twin cam should have come out with the gear drive straight from the factory. They should have addressed any and all problems before the engine was put out on the market. AMF spent seven years developing the Evolution motor. It's not something you do overnight. And no oil cooler or extended fins on the cylinder and has to Aid in cooling because the styling Department didn't like it that's in our styling Department should not overrule engineering. Thank God I never had the money to be able to afford an expensive Harley that has all of these major problems that are built-in from the cheapest of the construction of the engine. Norton put cheap parts in critical areas of their motor and the warranty claims killed them. Like the British say Pennywise and pound-foolish.
@jamesbowers3540
@jamesbowers3540 2 жыл бұрын
Music Way too loud
@MrJeepmarine
@MrJeepmarine 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, the music compared to the voice parts are too loud. I would have loved to have heard you guys fire her up when done. Thanks.
@frankmarkovcijr5459
@frankmarkovcijr5459 2 жыл бұрын
I can't imagine having to do so much work every 40,000 miles. One of the independent shops I used to hang out with the wrench showed me the cam chain and the adjuster system and he said that Harley did this just so we can work on a Harley every 40,000 miles. I would rather have an evolution powered Harley anything because it was the last good motor that Harley made. Maybe next time the tensioners go out your engine will go boom. And the engine is a hundred something degrees hotter than an Evolution motor. Evo forever forever evos!
@507allen1
@507allen1 2 жыл бұрын
100% true. I've worked on Harley's all my life. The Evolution engine is bulletproof. I'll take an EVO, punch it out to an 87ci, cam it, and redo the carb all for under a $1000. And that bitch will run!!!!!!!!
@lynskyrd
@lynskyrd 2 жыл бұрын
Harley corporate also knows that most of today's Harley 'bikers' barely put more than 30,000 miles on their bike... in 10 years. Hence, more dollars spent than miles driven.
@frankmarkovcijr5459
@frankmarkovcijr5459 2 жыл бұрын
The point of putting a Gear Drive in a twin cam is so you don't suffer catastrophic engine loss when the chain breaks and the Pistons kiss the valves and all that bad should happen. 70000 miles is nothing for a twin cam. The way you save money doing a deer Drive is that you will never have to mess with the cam chains or the tensioners ever again. Plus you ride with the Peace of Mind knowing that gear drives never go out my Evo Sportster has 370,000 miles on it because it has a Gear Drive, my water-cooled Wonder of a CX500 died when it was 10 years old and had 250,000 miles on it. The cam chain broke broke the camshaft into and destroyed the water pump. No matter how much I adjusted them properly they would just break and you would Coast to the side of the road knowing that your engine was now garbage. All of my Hondas died from cam chain disease. In the long run a Gear Drive will save you money. If you ever decide to sell the bike this would be a great selling point, this would be money well spent. One of the reasons I never bought a twin cam was because of the overhead cam oh, I knew from past experience that they would have trouble with it and they did. They could have done this straight from the factory but they decided to play it cheap.
@timmuff9808
@timmuff9808 2 жыл бұрын
Good job guys I was hesitant about doing this until I seen your video.
@stonefreeblues
@stonefreeblues 2 жыл бұрын
Good Luck! Get a manual and go slow...you'll be fine!
@andyreid7274
@andyreid7274 Жыл бұрын
@@stonefreeblues I'm doing this to my 03 superglide next month. Thanks for the video