@@dcallan1 This is a project, made by myself….and I do this in my free time as a hobby. It’s a lot of work and programming knowledge, is not an easy mounting hub motor which seen on every street…. I ride it like this rarely and in the forest, and more on the videos rather than on a daily basis… Is not a normal bike ( even if it looks like a normal one ) people needs to have, is kind of a motocross bike,and way too powerful for normal users…🙂 It Is a rocket 🚀 The bike is…legal/restricted when I go in crowded places or when I need to switch between power levels 👍🏻

@@mikle252 I don’t understand Russian… Try with some English , or Romanian 👍🏻😅

@@tomindia9420 I use it now at 6kw on peak, and 3-4kw continuously …. I run like that on speed until I get bored, or the battery drains to 50%, and the highest temperature I have seen was 65 degrees 😁 I don’t run it at max for longer , as I am not that kind of rider, I like to enjoy and relax ( short bursts )… When I had it on 52v, the battery was set at 50 amps , as I use it now with the 72v setup…. On 52v the motor gets a bit hotter I guess, but not a problem as long as there is a temp sensor to tell the truth 👍🏻 I have also a steel gear to replace it with the nylon one, in order to make it as an Ultra ( but too much noise, as now it’s enough turbo sound ), but last week when I opened up the motor ….I found out that everything was like new , and the grease was looking fresh 👌

@@alex.copilu ye, i seen people add grease to the motor to reduce noise, i have a enduro style bike, with hidden battery, 52v 17.5ah with 30A bms, its enough for me, i also prefer only doing bursts, or following traffic for a minute or two at higher speeds, well over the 250w limit lol, so good thing about mid motors they look like bicycles, and the motors are more compact in the middle, less visible and doesnt look as powerful,just need to be sensible and slow down in more busy public places, but in your case you have a 1000w mid motor, with 4-5k watts, nobody will expect it to have that much, even for me 1500w off the line on like 32T or so it takes off and does a smalll wheelie , so its already unsafe for unskilled, or no experiece people, when you pull the throttle and the jerking can throw them off the bike... on the corners at lower speeds, but the ride is very smooth, the motor power and torque sensor, makes pedaling feel very natural, for you with 5k watts maybe pedaling is less fun, for me I can pedal until about 55km speed, and then let the motor push the speed up to 60km

@@tomindia9420 yeah, I have put some thousands km ago mobil shc, and mobil 100 grease as far as I remember, but everything it’s still new inside , thus was not the need for a fully opening up… I had the controller broken for one week, and I used the stock controller on 33A, and things were very nice I can say ( my setup is for 52v : 42t front 36-18t rear, and 72v : 42t front 42t rear )….thus I understand the feeling you are speaking about 👍🏻 This is another thing…a proper animal which lifts up at 40km/h if throttled hard compared with a stock 52v setup…..🫣🫡 It’s 6k now 😅😅 and on pedals I set it up to go up to 3000+w at peak powers , and it’s fine…. I don’t want to put any energy on the pedals, and it’s fine for me…feels ok, different than the stock one 😁

@@alex.copilu i have 42 - 11 on the rear, so i can still add power by pedaling until im over 50km speed, which saves some battery especially on low power modes, one time i did over 25 miles range on 500 -1000 watt power modes, and was still half a battery, so its posible to get close to 50 miles range, with a 17.5ah battery, if you do some pedaling, range is not important for me, but when you need it, it's handy to have the motor and pedaling RPM matching for optimal efficiency

@@aski1529 I don’t know what a good throttle response is for you, but for me yes…it has a very good throttle response 🙂

@@alex.copilu im just wonderig if its better than stock co troller

@@aski1529 Idnk….just have a look at a stock controller to see how it works, and after have a look through my KZfaq videos , and you will find the answer 👌

@@M7SFIT In this video the setup was on 52v ! In the video title is suggested the voltage : 52v, or 72v 🙂

@@alex.copilu just looks very fast for 52v! Im going to do a build like this the flipsky is 72v compatible isnt it?

@@M7SFIT it is fast….around 60km/h+ if geared up , and the power delivered it’s spot on in seconds 👌 It is 72v compatible…. Google it’s your friend for those questions 👍🏻 Good luck with your build 👍🏻

@@georgescg7342 it has a bright light which wasn’t on the bike at that specific time, and it has a mirror which is very slick and maybe you couldn’t see it 🙂

@@user-rj8vo6yk2f 3k

@@nemohunter87 nope, I sorted it out to be very smooth 👌

Thank you 😁

@@don.s_a_l_v_a_t_o_r_e ok Mr Engineer .

@@OneCosmic749 I took them out, as they were too heavy, too slacked to corner well, and I couldn’t fit a brake calliper well enough on it ( non boost fork and boost wheel doesn’t match )… Those are very light, they do very well, no touching the battery, and the bike lifts up when I want, jumps easy, carried on easier 😁 I tried , but didn’t work for me 😅 Maybe something lighter, a Boxxer, but I am more than happy with this one 👍🏻

It could be , if I would do deliveries , but I don’t do that…😁 And to be honest…I don’t know how many deliveries you would do with it, as it would be stolen in few minutes being so exposed and not near by it 🫣😅 My friend who had hub motor e bikes and did deliveries, were taken by the police, or stolen 🫣😅 Not a good candidate for a delivery bike 😅😅👍🏻

@@alex.copilu good point Must say it looks super fast I rode my standard e-bike downhill in a London park and reached 31mph or 50 kph i think and that was plenty enough for me 🤣

@@chris53small This time looks fast and it feels fast as a rocket, with plenty of power to lift up the wheel when have speed over 40km/h…. At the start at the video I went full throttle, it had 72km/h and I didn’t want to go faster…. I said after that little run in the video, that was enough for me 😅😅😅 I was running 1:1 gear ratio 42t front and 42t rear… It still had some field weakening to raise up the speed, and to shift one gear to 36t to get to the 80km/h , but I didn’t have the courage at that specific moment , nor the space/road to do it🫣😅😅 That’s nice, also at 50km/h you have plenty of fun 👌👌👌

@@alex.copilu Why police don't take cars when they produce toxic fumes? Ebikes are completely ecological.

@@dragos32 stiam de cand am plecat de acasa ca fiind inspre 22:00 nu o sa ma mai ajute lumina de afara 🫣am un newbroler , doar ca nu il mai am instalat ( i am rupt piciorul principal cu ceva timp in urma si trebuie sa imi iau altul ) . Aici am doar o mica lumina sa fiu vazut de masinile din fata…si ce a mai ajutat lanterna telefonului cand a filmat…. Trebuie sa filmez pe timp de zi, sa imi iau o lumina noua, sau sa rezolv ce am stricat pe aici 😅😅👍🏻 Merci de input 🤗

Wouldn’t be a problem to get the 75200 pro v2.0, but for that I need also another battery which is quite pricey for the budget for the moment…. It’s a 50bms battery….and without heating up too much, would be around 70-80bms, and 8000w with 5000w continuous…. This is what I think… I might get one day that battery, but…still happy with what I can squeeze from this setup 🫶 If I shift one gear, 36T, it goes around 80km/h , and it’s enough…🫣😅 As you see in the video when I start I went hard, and at the end of that little run, I stopped throttling it, as it had 72km/h and it was ….enough 😅 The bike lifts up from 40km/h when I throttle it hard, and has around 25-27kg🫣 Yup, IQ Target, and many other settings ON 👍🏻

@@alex.copilu Yeah batteries not cheap, but no need battery needed to take advantage of those phase amps. I run 150 and it tried to flip me off even at 25mph. My bbshd doesn't like to pull more than 6.5kw even with limits much higher, I think that's the limit motor can pull. How much of a difference did mtpa make, my tune is great other than mtpa causing power surges / bucking even at low throttle so I don't run it :( . And your wheelies will improve with time, they will get much better! Maybe I should post a video of mine, too warm right now though where I am sun makes me melt over 100f + humidity so I haven't ridden much lately

⁠@@Bengy22I run 120 amps, but I was thinking of trying 150 🫣😅 I haven’t tried without, as I know with it ,is the best power I could get when I firstly changed it…. It’s harsh when start throttling, but I am used with it and I press it around 1-2cm when I start, or I go pedals, as it’s what I need 😁 I hope , I will get better on wheelies at one point, but many times I back up as too many previous bike accidents 🫣 Ummm…I haven’t seen mine more than 62 degrees after a loooong hard run 😁👍🏻

@@alex.copilu I would recommend giving it a try, just keep those core temps under control! The harshness could be your hub engaging, a high engagement hub (but make sure it can take the power) is good or you can try the "zip tie cassette" mod. I run it and enjoy it because no slop in the drive train. Also check your ramp up time. Nylon gear you shouldn't go below .35 seconds. Just need to get the technique down, the power is there. Oh I mean I will melt, not the motor haha too hot for me to want to leave the house!

⁠​⁠@@Bengy22 I am going to try the 150amps, hopefully everything will go well , and I won’t screw up too much the battery 😁👍🏻 I think you are right about the hub wheel snap ( the wheel is new, but the power on it it’s a lot ) ….I have not heard about the zip tie mod, but I will give it a try to see how it behaves maybe will help and I might even like it… The best I think is to change a bit few settings at the throttle curve: throttle expo , and throttle expo mode 🤔 I just have to play 5 minutes, and… I will sort it out 😁 I would like to see more videos based on vesc+bafang, but GOOD BUILDS , not what is shared around at the moment ( shit bikes, Hardtail, or small women bikes only on streets, and with all the organs flying everywhere)👎🏻 A monster is : the forest ripper ,based on Vesc ♥️ I was waiting for this weather since last summer 🤣 it might depends also on where we might live in, but here in UK….you can not complain of too much heat 😅👍🏻 Thank you for sharing your thoughts 🫡

It’s way too mean on 72v, and set up like this 😅 But…it’s worth it 🫶 I love the turbo jet sound at high Rpms, it keeps me plugged in 😅 The PAS gets the peak power around 3000w+ 🫶 I run the Nylon stock gear greased up , without problems 👌 I have also a steel gear, but….it’s no point to change it, as I opened up the motor and everything is like new…. Plus it’s enough noise the turbo sound produces …🥹

@@alex.copilu yeah it sounds like a jet haha ! I thanks for the reply it sounds Crazy man I have a 52v battery already so I might just buy a bbshd at the end of the month for my trek fuel .. kinda worried about the bottom bracket position.. if you get time to check out a trek fuel ex8 2018 on google or something have a look at the bottom bracket shape and does it look like it would be ok for bbshd ? I feel like the shape of the bike might be wrong for this 🤣 if so I’m going to buy another full suspension bike first

Setup ul e mullet 29” fata si 27.5 spate la o greutate de 25kg… Nu pot atinge cu roata bateria nici cand sar un rand mare de 5-6 scari ( o inaltime de 1m), sau orice as incerca sa fac……fiind foarte slack-uita din head tube si greutatea ducandu-se mai mult pe partea din spate a bicicletei ( cadru enduro/downhill cu travel destul de mare ). Am avut furca de 200mm de surron si era prea mult, prea grea ( o poti vedea intr un video de al meu ), intr un final punand la loc Rockshox ul Lyrik 29” 170mm 😅

@@alex.copilu aaa tu esti? =))) am mai vb cu tine prin comentarii=)) ideea e ca acum vreau sa vand cyc-ul(face prea multa galagie si mi se pare deranjant pe video-uri) si sa imi iau ceva motor in roata spate.. si ar cam trb sa pun bateria cam asa cum o ai tu Inca ceva: se iau politistii de voi pe acolo ca prinde bicicleta mai mult de 25?.. (sau 15.5mph) Am auzit unii baieti ca se plang ca le-au fost confiscate si distruse dupa bicicletele.. as vrea si eu sa vin in vizita prin Anglia si ma gandeam ca poate iau si bicicleta :)

@@dragos32 da…am mai incercat eu sa iti explic cum sta treaba cu cadrul potrivit pentru o bicicleta electrica 😅👍🏻 Ummm….nu sunt fanul motorului pe roata pe spate pentru ca off-road, sau la deal fara putere destul de mare, nu e ceea ce trebuie, dar mna…poti incerca… Da, cyc-ul e destul de galagios si uneori pretentios, de asta eu am mers pe bafang bbshd 1000w si l am tunat de unul singur la 5500w ( o pot limita la 250w fara throttle din aplicatia bluetooth de pe telefon ), iar cu o baterie si mai buna cred ca ar fi destul de ok pe la un 7000w😅👍🏻 Am un Metal Gear in locul Plastic gearului, dar nu il montez, ca e destul de galagios si asa al meu cand intra in turatii mari , fiind si grisat cu vaselina de avioane peste tot😅🫣 Unui prieten din Liverpool i a confiscat politia 2 biciclete cu hub motor, facand delivero, dar eu mereu cand merg la el cu bicicleta mea….nu se uita nimeni la mine, si, am trecut de vreo doua ori si prin cateva filtre de politie ai nu s au uitat la mine… Bicicleta e…foarte clean, si nu prea sare in ochi mai deloc👌😁 In trafic sunt putin nebun, si uneori ma cred cu mototcicleta luandu ma la intrecere cu masinile 50-60-70 km/h, deci….nu pot spune ca ma intereseaza prea tare de politie😅😅😅 Mna…depinde si pe aici pe unde te dai cu bicicleta, si cum te dai, ca sa nu sari in ochii politiei…mai depinde si de noroc…si tot asa 😅 Iti trebuie un cadru de enduro/downhill cu travel mare si slacked head tube, pentru ca roata sa nu atinga bateria atunci cand sari…. Te sfatuiesc sa cauti un cadru downhill cu travel de peste 160mm cu straight downtube unde poti pune bateria fara probleme… In Romania sunt scumpe, dar aici eu am dat pe cadrul meu SH 200£ ( hand built in Halifax ), si multe altele destul de ieftine….

@@alex.copilu eu mai am un bbs02 de 750 dar nu prea m-as baga sa il modific.. are 14700km si oricum nu stiu cat mai duce.. la 12k l-am desfacut sa ii bag mobilgrease 21(parca) si arata totul destul de bine in interior(doar putina rugina pe rotor, probabil de la umezeala, dar in rest era perfect) acum eu maine ma gandeam sa dau comanda de motor in hub(mxus 3k turbo de 72v, daca il stii pe sentrybike are si el unul la fel si l-a dus pana in 10kw cu racire facuta de el) pentru ca eu oricum il folosesc numai pe strada... si de faza cu confiscatul.. daca l-as lua si l-as limita la 25kmh si 600-700w cat are un motor in roata de 250w nominal unde ar fi problema..? mai ales daca n-am acceleratie la el si are doar asistenta la pedalat.. poate baiatul acela de pe delivery mergea cu viteza mare ca altfel nu prea imi pot explica... la noi in ro poate sa prinda si 200kmh prin oras bicicleta=))) nu ii pasa nimanui ba chiar te opresc politistii si te felicita ca ai reusit sa construiesti asa ceva=))) Iar legat de cadru.. Ma gandeam sa imi iau ceva full suspension mai entry level dupa sa ii schimb furca si socul.. alta varianta nu mai prea stiu ca nu am acum 2-3k euro sa dau pe o bicicleta.. mai ales ca dau 600$ pe kit si mai trebuie sa fac si bateria pe 72v

@@dragos32 ummm…bbs02-ul e stabil pe la un maxim 2000w, ceea ce nu prea se merita….dar e ok de ici colo, duc destui km 😅😅😅👌🫶 Mai ales bbshd -ul ( e heavy duty ) Racirea aia e adaugarea unor sink heat uri pe motor , ceva simplu si ieftin 👍🏻Cred ca am mai vazut ceva videoclipuri si pe Romania, hub motor, doar ca…inca nu s interesat sa vad cat de mult duce pe strada ( pentru asta iti iei motor )😅 Pe mine ma intereseaza sa rupa off road, sa ma distrez si sa urlu de hype cu 50-60km/h printre copaci 🫣🤣🤣 Daca ma intereseaza ceva pe hub motor, e doar daca il modific sa mearga ca a lui e-bike guy , care se intrece cu masinile si motoarele , dar e greutatea prea mare😅😅 Asa ca cel mai bine pentru putere super mare pe mid drive , e un Lighting rods big block RL de 12kw+….. Incearca hub motor ul, sigur o sa iti placa pentru ceea ce il folosesti tu…dar totusi inca trebuie modificat din controller ( vesc + programare ) Pai tocmai ti am spus…da ti comanda de un cadru downhill de pe e bay din Anglia de 200-300£ mai iei un shock dai 150£ si la maxim 400-500£, ai un setul bomba… Eu am dat pe toata bicicleta mea cum o vezi din bucati 2000-2500£ ( incluzand motor, baterie ai controller, totul full electric)…. Bine…am investit per total vreo 4-5000£ ca am avut si asi bac, si alt cadru, furci si mai multele…dar asta e alta poveste😅😅😅 Acum imi cumpar singur controler de care vreau, il cablez, in setez, il tunez si tot asa…. De asta o pot seta cum vreau eu, cu throttle , fara, putere putina-multa…in caz ca ma dau vreo data prin centru si misuna prea multa politie, dar in mare parte…nu as opri 😅 😅👍🏻 Nu, nu mergea tare, dar daca ai roata pe spate…esti tinta lor 😅 si cu geanta de delivero…( au si alte suspiciuni )😅 In Romania e fain ca ai pe unde merge pe camp cu bicicleta, aici fiind putin mai greu, totul fiind privat … Merg oamenii si pe aici, ca…au si cu ce 🫣😅😅 Surron uri, Talaria, si high power bikes….hehe 🫡😅😅

London

Ok I'm in London , maybe we can meet one these times and take a ride I have normal bike thou, not electric

@@foodbosslifestyle It would be nice, but unfortunately for me personally, It wouldn’t be so enjoyable the ride along a non e bike… It’s the need for a min 1500w to have fun in the forests and enjoy the rides 🤗

Nuuu, la asta am muncit miercuri toata ziua si joi vreo doua ore 😅 Azi…sunt la munca, aia normala 🫣😅 Hai…da mi pace cu pinul tau ars 🤣🤣

Nooo…it’s only 48v (1000-1500w max I guess)… He only throttles it at the max, and I just pedal 😅 I want to do a shunt mode to it….and I would install a bigger battery as I have one, and a Flipsky controller, but the guy is not into those things , and he doesn’t wish to spend money on it….😕

Ooo .. damm..so powerful bro

@@nicholasberangan5468I wouldn’t say that, me who started with 52v and now I have the 72v setup…. 48v is not great at all especially on hub without a good controller… I would do it for him, as he is my friend, but as I said he doesn’t want to spend that 80£ for a controller 👎🏻😕 He has only throttle, as the PAS is not connected, and the max speed is 45km/h , max 50 downhill… With a Flipsky controller I would put that power around 2000-2500w , and the speed would be 60 km/h +, but….maybe he will change his mind one time 😅🫡

@@alex.copilu thanks for ur sharing.

I’m running 72volt on my 1500watt hub motor with a nbpower 45a controller. Your buddy is missing out on power!

I bought a mic, but didn’t seem to work , and it cut from the middle of the recording…. I will do it without it from now on, with wind, or without…it depends how the weather will help me 😅😅😅👍🏻

Did I what ? 🤔

Nothing stops you 👍🏻

You have to play with a gps speed app, and twisting the gear ratio, and the wheel diameter until the gps speed app and the Vesc app match together👍🏻

@@alex.copilu My bike has a mid drive motor, and has gears, so each gear will correspond to a certain speed, that's the problem... that's why I need to get the speed directly from the wheel using an external sensor connected to the wheel, but I don't know where to change it the vesc toll to read an external sensor, and not read the engine hall sensor

@@EBIKESBR unfortunately you won’t be able to add one , as it would happen to the stock or other controllers…. Yeah…changing gears using vesc, won’t keep the same accuracy… I use FW, and because of that I use only one gear, as it would be an automatic car 😅👍🏻 The best you can do is to get a gps TFT screen compatible with Vesc( there is a bulky one ) and with it you will have what you want ( but the display does the same, won’t keep accuracy when changing gears )👍🏻

Nope ! The swing arm is in perfect shape without any crack on it !😁 I just applied few very bad layers of paint on it, and I didn’t mind taking all the paint off…🫣 I just re-sprayed it and re-sprayed it😅

Thank you for your kind input, and for your following up 🤗 I did that as suggested 👍🏻 If you give your interest in searching and if you know where to find info, you can steal from my posts…a lot, and of course if having such a controller and app, I might even help sometimes 👍🏻

What's your FB group you post in ?

@@JasonNosajasoNosaj Due to admin’s frustration, I am not on fb groups anymore, but you might be able to find out my posts if you google them or search them on fb 👍🏻 I have created my own fb group , but I don’t activate too much on it, and I don’t offer too much support 🫣 Good luck with everything brother 👍🏻

Yup, 25 amps of FW 👍🏻

I had ( and still have in a bag ) 51T used on a 52v setup, and it was too much…not good , doesn’t get the speed needed, just spinning without much sense…FOR ME I had ( and still have )also 46T and even that is a bit too much for the 72v, but…. is more suitable for off roading 👍🏻 Each with own preferences , and styles😁

Max speed 70+ km/h, and 5500w peak ! I don’t have such things, as I don’t know to use those apps…🫡

@@alex.copilu Dont you have VESC Tool app on your phone?

@@OneCosmic749 I have said for many times in the videos that I have the vesc app on my phone…. I meant ,I don’t know how to link up the data with the videos( I looked on some tutorials, but it’s a bit too much for me, and I am not keen on doing that 😅)… I need also an extra phone to record the video and the data log…. Maybe one day, who knows 👍🏻

BBSHD is 1000w nominal, with an external controller it can be pushed up to 5000w. Bosch/Shimano are all 250w and pedal assist only. Answer the question yourself 😅

@@PolskiKrecikv2 but pedaling on bbshd is not so smooth compared to bosch ?

@@PolskiKrecikv2 I push 5500w now, and around 6000w with some hard settings, as peak power 😅😅👍🏻 Between 3000w-4000w continuous 🙂

@@arromanusI haven’t rode a torque sensor setup, but I doubt that I would like it, because…I am a lazy guy who wants just to fake pedal … All of you have experienced the stock controller and maximum an ASI BAC one, but Vesc in terms of pedalling is above the ones mentioned, and the feeling is a pure lovely dream as an e bike and compared with the stock and other aftermarket controllers 👌

40-50 km ( 72v 20ah 50 BMS) 🙂

I just like it like that 😁 I have a slacked/harley position, and I don’t need to make any effort while I am peddling, thus the seat is like that, comfortable like you would sit at a table or on a sofa 😅👍🏻

@@alex.copilu Fair enough

I get your point mate .. countless times I’ve stopped people I assume are new cyclists and tell them they will half the effort and pain in there legs sitting up higher .. some are like wow thanks a lot others are terrified of going over the handlebars haha .. I ride like this too on the e-bike , to me I feel safer when slowing down from speed being lower .. road bike or just cycling though seat up higher 100% especially if travelling a good distance

@@losbastardosmtb I know the correct position…but I just don’t like it anymore….and doesn’t make sense anymore for the setup I have 😁 I have had set the saddle up when I had an acoustic road bike, and the hartail…having to put effort when pedalling. With the long base full suspension frame and with the 5.5 KW power….I just like and feel the bike much much better when the saddle is lowered at the minimum ( as it is in the motors-cross/ motorcycles )👍🏻 Far better control when I speed up, and no back pain as it’s a full suspension and the position it’s different than you have on a normal bike 👌 Idnk…maybe people have non electric bikes or low powered e-bikes, and they can not realise, or understand what setup I presented here 😁

Ye I completely agree with what your saying man take care ride safe and enjoy :) your videos have made me want to go bafang and 72v defo gonny give it a try on my suspension bike got a trek fuel ex8 will have to keep battery in my bag or do similar to your build Keep the videos coming my friend I’m fan From Scotland Enjoy the summer as much as you can !! 😎🚲

Hi…. Is it not visible when I pedal, the motor spins ? 😁 Yes, both the throttle and the pedals work ( I have said this for so many times on my videos )👍🏻

yes u can drive just with throttle

@@lucasg1988 work both sir…the throttle and the pedals engaged with the motor, as it should be 👍🏻

I drawn 50 amps from the battery 🙂