Nerdy Prudes Must Die was the first Starkid production I ever saw, and it got me to check out the rest of the Hatchetfield stuff and a few other of their shows. I think there was plenty of information and context clues that I was more than able to follow the story. Sure, I didn't know who Paul and Emma were, but when everyone cheered, it wasn't hard to understand that they were beloved characters from other stories. Sure, I misinterpreted Tinky's comment about having the whole Spankofski set to mean Pete's whole family winds up trapped, but that still made Time Bastard surprising. Maybe it comes from growing up watching reruns of long-running shows broadcast out of order.
@sanityisrelative4 күн бұрын
Joey really needs to stop destroying me emotionally just for his character to be totally fine in the next scene. Like, the whiplash, I cannot.
@kirstenkolkman67584 күн бұрын
HOW could you not put ethan's death in the black friday part
@SilvanaLTD4 күн бұрын
@@kirstenkolkman6758 because it had very little emotional impact on me
@happily_blue6 күн бұрын
Great video and fantastic editing!!!!
@TnoyKaraxis9 күн бұрын
MAMD only exists purely for shits and giggles and I am fully here for it.
@goldenrose76379 күн бұрын
NPMD was my first Starkid musical, and I've got to say, the harmonies won me over
@Darkrising199310 күн бұрын
Trail to Oregon would be right after MAMD in my list, possibly even last place because it had no emtional impact on me. I would have to not rank TGWDLM though because I wouldn't be able to be objective about it cuz I really hate it. I just find it annoying.
@Starkidfan2710 күн бұрын
considering a war with lobsters involving a million dollar bill is a major plotpoint in it, TTO is actually a kind of emotionally deep show.
@valhatan390710 күн бұрын
Starkid content here we gooo
@EuRoWeIrD11 күн бұрын
Idk why this is the thing I needed right now but thanks.
@just_peachy358211 күн бұрын
Honestly I probably also would’ve put Twisted first just for “science says you’re dead and gone forever. Reason says I’m talking to the air. But something in my heart, some secret hidden part, illogicallly insists that you are there, somewhere.” I get chills everytime
@zirconiumshrimp916812 күн бұрын
mamd is a *very* strong last place. Never underestimate that musical
@themysterfox869512 күн бұрын
oh hey, NPMD was my first starkid musical and I enjoyed it quite a bit. the escalation made sense and the basic lore of the lords in black given in the summoning made sense and easy to follow as it served the story well.
@alsoknownasallison12 күн бұрын
I knew twisted was number 1 before clicking on the video
@SilvanaLTD12 күн бұрын
Who ever could have predicted such a thing from me??
@JavertRA12 күн бұрын
My amateur group did Twisted a few years back and the rehearsal period was so long because of COVID so even though I'd just met these guys we'd ended up becoming friends over nearly two years. So when we did the final "Power in Me" I (as Jafar) rambling through the spoken lines at the end because I was too choked up, but at least I got to go striaght off, whilst Princess was still tear for the next scene.
@SilvanaLTD12 күн бұрын
Awww I can imagine how emotional that would be. And awesome you got to play Jafar!
@Nickthegamer9612 күн бұрын
Wonder where Cinderella's Castle will rank
@SilvanaLTD12 күн бұрын
So excited to find out when they release it on youtube!
@gavino007712 күн бұрын
the entire scene surrounding Not Your Seed is fucking heartbreaking :(
@SilvanaLTD12 күн бұрын
Alice and Bill's storyline is one of my favs in any starkid show. It was done so well.
@themysterfox869512 күн бұрын
man, i forgot how genuinely GOOD twisted is
@SilvanaLTD12 күн бұрын
Hm I wonder if anyone's made a video about that... ;)
@RobertDPore12 күн бұрын
12:02 "'Cause baby, you're not alone, 'cause you're here with me -" "WHO WILL PRAY FOR YOU? WHEN YOUR BODY IS GONE?!"
@KT_BLU4 күн бұрын
The switch 😂
@junegeeitisahardgfulmer791112 күн бұрын
I really hope VHS Christmas Carol*s* from last year is released on KZfaq. It actually made me sob.
@SilvanaLTD12 күн бұрын
I think they've said that they don't have plans to release it on KZfaq unfortunately :(
@junegeeitisahardgfulmer791112 күн бұрын
@@SilvanaLTD That's a shame. It's my favorite version of the show, and I wanted people to be able to see the new first act, and A. J. Holmes as Scrooge. If they choose not to do that, though, I understand it's their decision, as someone who's been wanting a Jangle Ball album for a year and a half.
@99legcentipede9 күн бұрын
i got to see it in person it was so peak literally during the final ghost i was freaking out
@sara.bill.y13 күн бұрын
Nothing will probably make me cry harder than the whole section of AVPSY set in Godric's Hollows; Dumbledore and the statue? Ron's speech about what it means to be Harry Potter? Everything ends? Going back to Hogwarts reprise? I'm tearing up just thinking about it (and I'm probably going to rewatch it now). So that would probably be my first place, maybe tied with Twisted, because the whole show is beautiful and heartbreaking. I would also switch AVPM and AVPS, because beside Sirius' scene, Sequel feels a lot less emotional to me (it's also why is my least favorite of the trilogy). I do agree with most of the rest though! Always a pleasure to watch your videos!
@SilvanaLTD12 күн бұрын
Thank you! AVPSY definitely gets the most points for nostalgia for me. Besides the fact that it's closing out a beloved trilogy, it also came out as I was finishing middle school and about to start a high school away from all my friends that I had known since kindergarten. I think if it was a tighter script or better produced overall it could've been number one, but the shows above it are more well rounded so they get more impact in that way.
@rebelmage692913 күн бұрын
Man, I would've rated Black Friday first. I mean, that scene with Becky... Tom's two amazing solos... That whole ending... It would've been a hard battle between that and Twisted, but Black Friday would win for me because Twisted does have a happier ending. The whole Disney feel makes it feel sweeter, while Black Friday's tone makes it feel more emotional to me.
@SilvanaLTD12 күн бұрын
I talk about it more in my full review but one of my biggest issues with Black Friday was I never felt quite as connected to the characters as I did with TGWDLM. Also for what it's worth Twisted is the only one that actually made me cry while watching through the clips.
@krissmith80013 күн бұрын
And to think this list is just the full shows and doesn't include Workin' Boys, the Nightmare Time and Nightmare Time 2 stories, or Little White Lie (not to mention any Tin Can Bro stuff). Darn Team StarKid for making us have such strong feelings for fictional chataters.
@hexane36013 күн бұрын
Dylan Saunders bias on full display, not that I disagree lol
@SilvanaLTD13 күн бұрын
I will certainly not refute that
@kino964313 күн бұрын
as soon as I clicked I was like "it's gonna be MAMD first lol" and then I was floored when firebringer was below Ani (context: never watched Ani so any placement for Ani would've thrown me)
@SilvanaLTD13 күн бұрын
The fact that Ani got me to feel anything for Jar Jar Binks gives it big points in my book.
@JuliesMistakes013 күн бұрын
I was like “Wow these keep getting sadder and more emotional by the second...” Then realized that was the point of the ranking-
@SilvanaLTD13 күн бұрын
Haha to be fair I often use that technique in other compilation videos so it wouldn't be unheard of.
@HelloXrancidkitteh19 күн бұрын
to the comment about picturing Grace wearing a long skirt instead of jeans...I think you're thinking of the religious group called Apostolic Pentecostals- where the women wear long skirts all the time and most don't even cut their hair. Grace is just Christian. Christians are allowed to wear jeans lol. they worship the same God but its different views. just wanted to clarify.
@SilvanaLTD19 күн бұрын
No, I am not thinking of any specific denomination. Many strict religious groups, especially ones that emphasize purity and gender roles, do not allow women to wear pants. This isn't even specific to Christianity, and more of them don't technically forbid it but strongly discourage it.
@HelloXrancidkitteh19 күн бұрын
@@SilvanaLTD okay. I'm Christian and I was confused by that comment, thats the only group I can think of ( at least where I live ) that wear long skirts for religious reasons and worship the same God.
@HelloXrancidkitteh19 күн бұрын
@@SilvanaLTD oh, also forgot to mention, loved your video! it was really well done. that was the only thing that confused me
@SilvanaLTD19 күн бұрын
@@HelloXrancidkitteh Thank you I'm glad you liked it! I'll preface this by saying that I don't believe Grace is part of any mainstream church both because of her beliefs and the way Hatchetfield works, I'd say she's probably part of a very high control group/cult, or at least her family practices in that way. I don't know of any super mainstream Christian denominations that outright forbid women from wearing pants, but there are plenty of more fringe sects that work like this. On the really extreme end you have groups like the FLDS (although it's arguable if they're considered Christian) and the Amish that have very strict requirements for dress. Also groups like the IFB, IBLP, some more conservative Mennonites, etc. at the very least discourage women from wearing pants if not outright forbidding it. These are just off the top of my head not to mention other entire religions that have similar practices in their more conservative branches.
@ZhongXuan9024 күн бұрын
Wow, really loved both of your views on Destiel and their relationship।❤
@Doodle_Mations28 күн бұрын
Double checking, this came out before Black Friday right, bc if not Corey’s is CRIMINAL
@SilvanaLTD28 күн бұрын
Yes this is already 5 years old! I'm probably going to make another. I was going to do it after npmd but considering Cinderella's Castle has no new cast I'm gonna wait until it's out so I can give Bryce more options.
@4eyesinthecorner399Ай бұрын
It really goes to show how prevalent queer-coding and queer-baiting is in the media because despite all of the tension and subtext it wasn’t until I started watching videos about saf that I realised that they were gay. I’d just gotten so used to passing similar actions off as false representation that even when it was staring me in the eye I didn’t see it but now every time I watch it back it seems so obvious.
@bou.09Ай бұрын
bryce is the lead of starkids new musical cinderellas castle and im so happy i cant wait to see it
@SilvanaLTDАй бұрын
yes!! i'm so excited!!
@ValpCreatesАй бұрын
0:22 same, I saw this clip in the 7th grade in my choir class, now I am in love with it
@musicman3600ableАй бұрын
Thank you for making this!
@SilvanaLTDАй бұрын
Thanks for watching! I have a much improved version from a few years ago.
@fdragon0216Ай бұрын
It’s kind of bizarre that Twisted’s second worst song (in my opinion, of course) “Orphaned at 33” made it in, while a number of masterpieces by Dylan Saunders were ignored. (No hate to this list, of course. “Orphaned at 33” is still a good song, it just doesn’t really compete (for me) with rest of the songs that are unbeatably amazing)
@V01DERZ00Ай бұрын
NPMD was my first starkid show. It was so good I’ve by now watched almost all of them.
@fdragon0216Ай бұрын
Many people talk a lot about Twisted music and songs, but I’m shocked at how little people talk about genius plot structure. I rewatched Twisted with some friends who went in fully blind and without even basic understanding of what’s going on, and they really praised “Dream a little harder” for it’s introductory properties. It is a genius way to start a story because it simultaneously manages to set up the tone and comedy angle, explain the unique aspects of this particular world, set up a huge problem that will be a driving force for the rest of the plot, introduce the protagonist and his character traits, briefly introduce Jafar’s moral code and his beliefs and set up a conflict between Jafar and the regular citizens. For a song that has to be catchy and sound good, that’s just great! Also, this one song introduces 3 out of 4 core motivations that drive Jafar’s character. Why is Jafar such a great and layered character? I believe the main reason is what I call the “square of motivations”. Jafar has 4 core “motivations”: help the city overcome the problems, be a lawful and honorable person, get respect and recognition from the citizen for his accomplishments, find a way to be with Shaherezade. These motivations exist in a vacuum, yet constantly interact and add onto each other. All this makes Jafar a complex character who isn’t one sided or flat in the slightest! On top of that, the interactions of the motivations often lead to mutual impossibility. For example, Jafar relationship with Shaherezade comes to an end because of his belief in law, as he served the sultan even after he took Jafar’s wife (“I thought that if I just did my duties, I can get her back”). Jafar wants to help the city, but the corrupt and inefficient ruling class prevents his from doing it, yet his belief in peaceful lawful reforms prevents him from pushing this class away from power, in return this makes supporting the city ineffective. Jafar is hated in the city because of his lack of power to fix the city’s problems, and this hate in return makes it harder for him to attempt reforms. But Twisted also keeps the realism mark, and in the song “Twisted” Jafar realizes that he cannot achieve everything at once, regardless of how many work and time he would put in. Sometimes, you have to give up your move selfish dreams (being respected in the city) and even moral codes (always following the law) to make a difference. Villains/antagonists. In my book, villains and antagonists should do these 2 things mainly: drastically challenge the protagonist’s ideology, putting it into question, and pose an active physical threat to the protagonist. You can say that a good antagonist plays against the heroes both of psychological and physical fronts. However, Twisted’s format, where Aladdin has to be a bad guy, doesn’t have room to make him threatening, so they had to split the antagonists in 2. First one is prince Achmed. Of course, he is not a villain, but he is an antagonist and he exists for a sole purpose: raise some stakes. Achmed is a joke, he doesn’t have some great mental presence and even his guards laugh at him. However, he had a mighty army and is motivated to slaughter every single innocent civilian. With that, Achmed powers one of the 2 main purposes of a villain, creating physical threat. Meanwhile, Aladdin is the exact opposite. He is no threat at all, in fact, he was at mercy of Jafar by the second half and he runs away the second after Jafar gains immense strength. However, Aladdin does challenge in his ideology. Jafar believes in a bright future, where compassion, motivated cooperation between the citizen and moral values above the physical wealth will create a better, more fair and welcoming society fueled by Jafar’s Golden Rule. Meanwhile, Aladdin was a kid in what seemed to be a relatively financially stable family, he got mad at his parents and killed them despite their compassion and support towards their son, he steals for the sake of his own wellbeing and he clearly does that because he loves it (I mean, he does it for survival, but when he was offered riches from the cave, he sings: “I can’t wait to be a rich dude, because I heard they told that stealing is so much easier when you already got tons of gold”, meaning that it’s not need that fuels his stealings, but his own enjoyment). For a character like Jafar, whose those ideology is built on the foundation that people, regardless of how bad they are, have the mentioned good features and just need to use them, it is a truly horrible experience when he has to deal with a egotistical psychopath who lacks any signs of compassion, cooperation or moral codes. It challenges Jafar’s ideas on a new level, even if Aladdin doesn’t play that major role in the story.
@SilvanaLTDАй бұрын
If this was a comment on my best writing video I'd pin it (I already have a pinned comment here from the lyricist of the show). You really said it all. The story is so tight and the characters all work so well together. It's just such a brilliant show.
@Starkidfan27Ай бұрын
I love how it's all mostly fairly lighthearted stuff and then around 6:44 until the end of the video it's like SINISTER EVIL VILLAIN SONGS
@SilvanaLTDАй бұрын
😈
@EvaUnit1301Ай бұрын
NPMD is not my first Starkid rodeo, but it’s my first in this triology. That in mind, the Lords of Black felt like it came out of nowhere and I was like “is this a reference or something? I don’t get where this is coming from at all,” and now, knowing they’re from other shows, it makes sense. I felt like the first act was so tight and engaging and then around the BBQ Monologues we came to a stand still for very little payoff. I enjoyed the show quite a bit, one of their stronger originals, but it did need the context of the other Hatchetfield shows imo. I didn’t even know this was a sequel-I came to it from hearing the audio snippet from Richie’s death. I wish that I’d known it was a sequel-I would have gone in order.
@SilvanaLTDАй бұрын
It's a pretty unique problem for Starkid shows since musicals don't tend to have sequels (besides animated movies) especially since they're not direct sequels with all the same characters, I could see it being tricky to navigate if you just come across the shows on youtube.
@abrashva257Ай бұрын
I stay up late at night thinking about Jeff Blim's abs and Robert Manion's hips
@rainey_day1282 ай бұрын
ANI LAST!!!!!!! i’m offended
@bitterflywing2 ай бұрын
Ruth was by far my least favorite, as well as her solo. Like you said, too long and out of place. I always skip the barbeque monologues because it had nothing to do with the plot and I wouldn't mind if they rewrote it for future shows.
@DerLucht2 ай бұрын
You captured all of my favourite moments!❤
@tuojiangoman32282 ай бұрын
“Content Dictates Form” is a rule that applies to literally everything. Why is Superman’s theme iconic while the Marvel themes in MvCI are interchangeable, despite them both being orchestral? Superman’s theme is designed to reflect him, while the MvCI themes (save GR) were all designed to be a “grand” hero theme. Why does “The Batman” look so distinctive and memorable? The visuals are designed around the content of the film? Why does the music in Rise of Trashwalker feel so random and bad? The music was only designed for nostalgia, rather than the content of the scene. Contrast the scene in The Force Awakens, where Rey’s theme is well placed between both the character of Rey, who spent most of her life without any real companionship, but at the same time desiring to see more of the world, perhaps seeing her parents again, and the environment, a barren desert that offers adventure as far as the dunes stretch. And why do the themes in the comic version of “The Boys” fall flat? Because the story wasn’t written around those themes.
@SilvanaLTDАй бұрын
It's definitely the writing rule that's influenced me most. It's so helpful for guiding where to take your work, even in things like silly youtube videos.
@TiaMat992 ай бұрын
I agree with you on the choreography, but one exception. In the digital ticket you can see the choreo for The Summoning. It's SO smart and fun. Every Lord has a signature move, but then their move goes to the next Lord, then the next etc. If you follow the pattern the moves switch off, it's a pentagram. And the lyric 'we dance around the pentagram' really ties it all together. You can also see that Corey messed up a move in the choreo there, but the fact that you can see the entire idea behind the choreo was BRILLIANT. I'm SO sad that the proshot didn't focus on this aspect of the choreo, it just looks like the Lords are doing unrelated little static moves. But it's a pentagram!! ARrgh I wish they'd shown it!! Digital ticket version can be found on youtube as well though, go check it out!
@SilvanaLTDАй бұрын
Yeah I saw the digital ticket when it was first released I think I just forgot about this part. I definitely agree it was the song that suffered most although it's still great to watch, they cut out a lot.
@jeramiahrichardson63632 ай бұрын
It was my first introduction and I immediately fell in love with this universe
@pazz2 ай бұрын
Yeah, "Best of You" took me off guard at first, but I love it in context and it's grown on me a lot. It's supposed to feel like the cheesy "and they all lived happily ever after" type song you'd hear in a standard teen musical, only to immediately be undercut by the actual last song of the show, so good!
@blesr90222 ай бұрын
Oh yeah, totally agree on Jeff’s falsetto. When listening to TGWDLM again, every time it happened it was always just so unnecessary, and distracted from the rest of the song. It kinda just felt like he wanted to show off that he can hit that high note, even when it REALLY should not have been there. Otherwise, he’s a good singer, he just needs to learn to control the falsetto additions for himself.
@SilvanaLTDАй бұрын
Yeah I think he just needs someone to rein him in a bit. It doesn't happen in Twisted or HMB at all and those are written and directed by someone else. He has a fantastic voice and his lower range is also really strong it always frustrates me when he's not using it to it's fullest extent.
@justanotherfangirlontheint40842 ай бұрын
Nerdy Prudes was my intro to the series, some parts were a little confusing, but loved it and it sparked my hyperfixation with Hatchetfield. The only problem area (for me) at first was Paul and Emma's scene confused me.
@SilvanaLTDАй бұрын
Yeah that makes sense. If you haven't seen the other shows they're just random people.
@_Freariose2 ай бұрын
Three months late, but I actually saw the youtube version of NPMD as the first thing ever from Starkid. I also went in pretty blind, I saw an animatic of the who will pray for you bit and it peaked my interest enough to look up what it came from. I'm a decently big fan of horror, especially supernatural stuff so the plot pretty much fell right in place for me. I actually REALLY liked the lords in black, and I could tell by the audience reaction that these were returning characters of some variety but that didn't diminish the scene at all. For me it might of even enhanced it, because it made me very interested in what else this group might have produced. Weird unknowable outer gods type stuff is peak horror for me, so it fit right in.
@sh4rky4662 ай бұрын
AAA SAME I LOVE GHOSTS
@SilvanaLTDАй бұрын
I've seen a couple of comments from people who weren't previous Starkid fans but were horror fans which is fun to see as someone who's the opposite. I feel like I have a harder time judging the horror elements since it's out of my wheelhouse so it's great to see opinions from people in the know.