no, but there's no intention to place it in hurricane areas

@@seasteading with more extreme weather conditions due to climate change you can’t really guarantee what areas won’t encounter them.

None of that has anything to do with seasteading.

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So, what do you recommend for dealing with state navies invading and stealing floating platforms? All governments will consider this "legitimate," and seasteading communities will be shut down before they even begin. If we don't have the capabilities or technologies to build a seasteading community in international waters right now, imagine having the military capability to repel state navy invasions. Therefore, you have to play by the rules of the big players, while you are not a big player yourself to negotiate on equal terms.

@@FF-xw8gs good point I guess. I guess the situation is just non optimal for now

​@@JoeHeineBut the situation is really not ideal for seasteading right now, which is why the Seasteading Institute is dealing with legal aspects, but there are still maritime technological aspects that need improvement. I believe that only in 20 years will there be a seasteading community in international waters. Until then, most likely the projects are focused on the coasts and economic zones to validate the idea. Perhaps it would be interesting in this process to lobby some small countries like Nauru, Fiji, or Tuvalu to approve a law called "Special Oceanic Administrative Region," similar to how Hong Kong is a Special Administrative Region of China. The only matters China handles concerning Hong Kong are foreign relations and external defense. With this law, seastead platforms could self-govern with their own laws. The platform owner would just need to fill out a form, pay some fees, and register it, let’s say in Tuvalu, as a "Special Oceanic Administrative Region," and voilà, we would have our own laws. Although we would be exempt from Tuvalu’s national laws, we would still have to comply with international maritime laws, which fortunately are not that restrictive, and we would still need to fly the flag of the country. Most likely, we would only be able to become truly independent when seasteading communities are economically rich and influential enough to play in the big leagues. But I think that is much better than doing nothing or placing my hope in foolish politics that will NEVER bring the freedoms we truly want. The political game is dominated by progressives and conservatives, with no space for libertarians and anarcho-capitalists, which is why I think it’s foolish for them to worry about participating in politics, believing that libertarians will be elected someday.

I like the idea of an apophatic constitution "if it ain't wrong, it's probably right"

Ty! And to Carly as well for running the show so artfully each time =)

It's not as easy as it sounds to convert a cruise ship into a seastead: www.seasteading.org/convert-cruise-ships-to-seasteads/

More of a barge than a boat. The Dutch love these types for lakes and cannals.

Every vessel on the ocean should have a flag if they want to avoid fighting off being claimed by others. A flag for a vessel is like a passport for a person, it gives you access to representation in a legal dispute.

@@seasteading it also means you are under the laws of the country you have the flag of.

that's why people organizing in international waters is a great option, and should be explored. and whether you're on land, or at sea, when an armed gang of terrorists calling themselves government, decides to attack, it's pretty hard to defend against them; fighting and brute force probably won't be the best option. perhaps finesse, and developing a mutually beneficial relationship with a small country, off their coast, might be promising.

@@michaelgusovsky Country defense is no different from personal defense in this regard. Eventually, if you can't back it up with brute force you will be a victim of those who will use force.

@@governmentisslavery you're speculating, and presenting your speculation as fact. if you want to try to use arms to defend yourself against government aggression, that's your right, but i suspect it won't end well.

there's nothing to shut down...people gathering together offshore is perfectly legal. also, international waters = not under usa government jurisdiction

@@michaelgusovsky that’s not how international waters work. Expect yourselves to be constantly raided by pirates with no one coming to help you or whatever government you are operating under the flag of to be constantly checking you are operating within their laws.

Exactly this. At some point someone with enough money and brains will just have to DO IT. You can’t comply your way to freedom. You can choose to be respectable or you can choose to be free - it’s basically impossible to be both.

So, what do you recommend for dealing with state navies invading and stealing floating platforms? All governments will consider this 'legitimate,' and seasteading communities will be shut down before they even begin. If we don't have the capabilities or technologies to build a seasteading community in international waters right now, imagine having the military capability to repel state navy invasions. Therefore, you have to play by the rules of the big players, while you are not a big player yourself to negotiate on equal terms.

@@FF-xw8gs you raise a very good point. In my opinion the only way to get around this would be to do this in Antarctica under the rubric of research and the Antarctic Treaty system. You need to be in an extreme environment. Not only is military activity banned south of 60 degrees, it is very physically difficult to conduct operations there. To add an additional layer of protection you could make the colony submarine and mobile. Is this ridiculously expensive? Yes. But it is still vastly cheaper and safer than colonizing the Moon or Mars. I agree with you in the sense that I doubt you could have a pleasant Seastead floating in temperate or tropical waters anywhere in the world and not have it shut down or otherwise screwed with. A submarine Seastead moving around beneath the Antarctic ice sheets would be a challenge to deal with even for the US navy. And this is much less fantastical than any off-world colony.

Unfortunately Liberland is not yet recognized internationally as a "state". Therefore, raising the flag of Liberland on the seasteads would not bring "legitimacy" before other nations to the free operations of the Seasteaders. But when Liberland finally achieves the much-desired international recognition, they could become the Seasteaders' greatest ally.

Because taxation is theft... and tax evasion is a human right... And the entire point of seasteading is to get out from under such oppression... to increase our Liberty.