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@cirno9349
@cirno9349 6 сағат бұрын
My favorite part of the major god aligned legions is you can add other legions corrupted to it like iron warriors or space wolves (lore wise)
@volcano3493
@volcano3493 6 сағат бұрын
I am considering buying a couple more Tacticals for a Shattered Legions project. Added to my Iron Hands will then be Death Guard and World Eaters. Blood-spatters on white armour would just look nice. And now some critique to the general concept of the World Eaters. They should be soldiers first and close-combat monsters second. And yet GW decided to flanderize them throwing any other notion out of the window. Every special rule revolves around melee which makes it one-dimensional. Whenever I picture a World Eater then I think of the Doom Guy from the Doom video game. He is running around at breakneck speed shooting stuff and then ripping it apart. The World Eaters infantry on the other hand, with the exception of heavy/support squad, almost never fire their guns which is just sad for a science fiction game. So here is a house rule which would address this concept error: Murderous Surge (Special Rule): Any World Eaters infantry, bike and walker model benefits from the following rule: When units of the aforementioned type causes casualties in the shooting phase then DON´T remove those models but instead leave them on the table, if the shooting World Eaters units intend to assault them later in the close combat phase. Roll for charging the enemy as normal but a charge counts as successful, if the World Eater unit makes base contact with a downed casualty. Just move the World Eaters models in question into contact with the surviving models of the opposing unit. In addition Rapid-Fire weapons (e.g. Bolters) count as Assault weapons which will allow the World Eaters units in question to be able to announce a charge move after firing said guns. Designer Note: This represents the fact that the World Eaters are so hellbent to get into melee that they will put extra effort in to get to grasp with the enemy after shooting their guns. It also makes sure that opponents don´t remove casualties in a "gamey" fashion so that reaching the opponent via a charge becomes either difficult or even impossible. And finally comes a perk for a part of their vehicles because they have none: Fast Disembark: Whenever a World Eaters infantry unit leaves a World Eaters transport vehicle with the intention of charging an opposing unit in the same turn then add two inches to the rolled charge range. Designer Note: The World Eaters want so badly to cross distance towards the enemy that disembarkation maneuvers are drilled into them.
@brendoncatalano8444
@brendoncatalano8444 10 сағат бұрын
Love this style of content, keen for more reviews! Good work fellas
@bhollow711
@bhollow711 12 күн бұрын
YES to those early heresy colored Alpha Bois! Fuck yeah
@fareastwargaming
@fareastwargaming 12 күн бұрын
The original John Blanche colour scheme!
@tryingtodobetterotto9616
@tryingtodobetterotto9616 12 күн бұрын
great guest! Very respectful pointing yourself out about the lascannon and master of signals combo, I love how a good narrative time is the focus of HH.
@fareastwargaming
@fareastwargaming 12 күн бұрын
A nasty combo not suitable for fun games IMHO, won’t be using this again unless it’s a hard core game!
@shieck3178
@shieck3178 13 күн бұрын
Thanks for the game!
@fareastwargaming
@fareastwargaming 12 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@samkinge1615
@samkinge1615 21 күн бұрын
beautiful armies. Thanks for making the bat reps guys
@fareastwargaming
@fareastwargaming 20 күн бұрын
Glad you like them and thanks for the support!
@Red2Productions
@Red2Productions 23 күн бұрын
Great battle report, thanks team. Hydra Dominatus!
@fareastwargaming
@fareastwargaming 23 күн бұрын
Who can say no to some Alpha Legion right! We'll have them on the channel again soon
@dannydepp69
@dannydepp69 23 күн бұрын
Good game, love it lids x
@fareastwargaming
@fareastwargaming 23 күн бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it.
@petercarlson8240
@petercarlson8240 24 күн бұрын
Nice work on the batrep, the Salamanders army is really lovely. On a separate note, it really seems that ten-man lascannon teams are just too much unless the board has really heavy terrain cover.
@fareastwargaming
@fareastwargaming 23 күн бұрын
Lascanons heavy support squads are arguably too powerful in this edition. Especially if you have a techmarine or a master of signals with them. You need to trade a like for like squad in shooting to get rid of them. Volkite culverin heavy supports tends to do the job. Overly cluster battlefields create their own issues in favouring melee focused armies. Its a fine balance for sure.
@myrar8708
@myrar8708 24 күн бұрын
You guys quickly became one of my favorite Heresy channels. Great narration, love to see more Alpha Legion 🎉
@Garsty
@Garsty 24 күн бұрын
Into the flames Brothers !!!
@fareastwargaming
@fareastwargaming 24 күн бұрын
Welcome to the channel and thanks for the support!
@pacothetacobndr
@pacothetacobndr 24 күн бұрын
Great way to start the week!! Thanks guys
@fareastwargaming
@fareastwargaming 24 күн бұрын
Enjoy!
@benjaminbrenner745
@benjaminbrenner745 24 күн бұрын
Thank you folks!
@fareastwargaming
@fareastwargaming 24 күн бұрын
Thank you too!
@AndrewPeverells
@AndrewPeverells 24 күн бұрын
Man that first turn was brutal! Anyway, great batrep, love to see the Salamanders <3
@fareastwargaming
@fareastwargaming 24 күн бұрын
Yeah, the LC squad and tech marine is a nasty combo, probably will not see that again unless we are playing “mean” lists!
@tebusan6217
@tebusan6217 28 күн бұрын
Throw away those blue dice so many bad roles and ALOT of rolled 1s
@joshhall449
@joshhall449 Ай бұрын
super minor, but unless I am missing an FAQ somewhere, Biomancy's augmentation only lasts for the player turn not the full round
@fareastwargaming
@fareastwargaming 29 күн бұрын
You are correct for Biomancy. I believe that we got some confusion here because we had been also discussing the TSons Arcana (Raptora) which remains active until the start of the players next turn. It might have made some difference in one of the shooting phases. But, the Command Sqaud combat went SO badly for the TSons that I don't think it had any impact. Thanks for pointing it out. We'll take extra care next time.
@Vulkanhesten
@Vulkanhesten Ай бұрын
So you’re saying that if i manage to trick my wife into a vacation in Malaysia and heresy army just happens to mysteriously fall into my luggage i can play heresy in Kuala Lumpur!?
@fareastwargaming
@fareastwargaming Ай бұрын
Most certainly! If you somehow manage to conjure both these miracles together let us know! 😁
@MrEcroberts73
@MrEcroberts73 Ай бұрын
Not a mechanicum player, and rarely play anyway, but I worry about rules spread across too many books. I loved AoS for a hot minute, then they steamrolled players with books...and playing a game seemed to require as many books as models. Agree that a fluff-heavy book is always welcome. Lore and art, yes please.
@australia5554
@australia5554 Ай бұрын
Being a slow painter, I'm in a similar situation to DocPhantoms. No joy in a torrent of releases if it results in unopened boxes piling up in the closet (been there too many times in the past) Mostly buying these books for the fluff and the pretty pictures anyway to be honest. So far, only the Zone Mortalis rules found any use here. A shame when people start being apprehensive when GW announces new releases, with a (justified) expectation of: "What are they going to wreck now?"... But, adaptation and house rules ftw! Maybe a side effect of model ranges that requires a different kind of audience to appreciate compared to their "main" product lines? Not implying maturity or something silly like that, but maybe a more relaxed attitude towards games, especially narrative games (don't buy Forge World models if you suffer from high blood pressure!). Those JoyToy models are nice I suppose, but personally I would probably go for some Frieren merchandise 😄
@davidbrayne8278
@davidbrayne8278 Ай бұрын
I am cautiously optimistic about the book .It looks really cool ,im hoping for a lot of background for the forge worlds. I really want to do Cyclothrathe Dark Mechanicum .
@DocPhantoms
@DocPhantoms Ай бұрын
Heresy is my main GW game and I am honestly very fine with a slower release schedule. I really dislike the 40k/AOS grind of releases. The slower pace means there is space to breathe. Necrumunda and AOS are the main focus now because they are both getting huge releases. We will definitely being an uptick in Heresy content as the Mechanicum release draws near. They indicated that what we have seen are not all the Mechanicum we are getting for sure.
@3v3rhard
@3v3rhard Ай бұрын
My only gripe is lack of melee weapons basically the core troops in plastic.
@fareastwargaming
@fareastwargaming Ай бұрын
I agree that sometimes there is too much released too quickly. We've discussed that in the past about buyer burn out. I would guess a nice steady pace would be preferable. Again, these are 'wishes' and GW doesn't really play by anyone's playbook but their own. Bottom line, as long as HH continues to get support from the company we'll all be happy.
@fareastwargaming
@fareastwargaming Ай бұрын
A melee weapons upgrade sprue is on a lot of people wish lists. With the MKVI Assault squad, we saw plastic Chainswords, bolt pistols and combat shields. They might have missed an opportunity to put that on a separate sprue, with other melee weapons so that they could sell that as a stand alone Upgrade kit.
@SonOfTerra92
@SonOfTerra92 Ай бұрын
Crimson Path represent!
@nathanvarley542
@nathanvarley542 Ай бұрын
Great game, as always. I love seeing thousand sons on the table and I'm really keen to see how a strong general, like yourself, ends up running them. We need more thousand son representation! Thanks for the content. Keep it coming!
@fareastwargaming
@fareastwargaming Ай бұрын
They'll be feature more in the coming months, don't you worry. They are sneaky powerful in Zone Mortalis though.
@Red2Productions
@Red2Productions Ай бұрын
Thanks team, cool battle report!
@fareastwargaming
@fareastwargaming Ай бұрын
Thanks for watching. Glad you liked it
@nickarmiger2003
@nickarmiger2003 Ай бұрын
Great report. BTW were you discarding the first casualty from each WE unit per phase as per the Crimson Path?
@fareastwargaming
@fareastwargaming Ай бұрын
Yes. Another rules forgotten in the fog of war of a first time World Eaters player. Great catch. Something we will also make note of for future. Really appreciate people pointing these out, cause it highlights the rules/issue so we're aware of it in the future.
@KirksDouble
@KirksDouble Ай бұрын
Nice armies, the DG was pretty brutal. Sorry if this is a dumb question but how did the deredeo intercept when the EC deepstruck? Does it have a augary scanner or similar? It sounded like the shot was made as a movement reaction which is only advance or withdraw in normal HH, there is a shooting reaction in ZM but its snap shots. Thanks in advance
@fareastwargaming
@fareastwargaming Ай бұрын
The Interceptor Advanced Reaction is a movement phase reaction that happens during the reserves/outflank/deepstrike stage of the movement phase. It uses a movement reaction allotment. The Deredeo does have a Helical Targeting Array that conveys Interceptor as a free reaction, but it needs to be activated and there are restrictions when it's active. I don't think it was active in this instance, but the Interceptor Reaction used a standard movement reaction point.
@KirksDouble
@KirksDouble Ай бұрын
@@fareastwargaming thanks! I don’t think I’ve ever picked that up before in my games, cheers
@AdamMcKeegan
@AdamMcKeegan Ай бұрын
Great Batrep. The biomancy power is only for the players turn however (sadly)
@fareastwargaming
@fareastwargaming Ай бұрын
You are right. So the Command Squad toughness would not have been over the Instant Death threshold in the WE turn. Thanks for pointing that out. We'll remember it for next time.
@MrEcroberts73
@MrEcroberts73 Ай бұрын
Can't say enough about how much I enjoyed this game, and how much I appreciate the chance to play with such a great opponent. Thank you very much, Far East Wargaming.
@fareastwargaming
@fareastwargaming Ай бұрын
Was great to have you featured on the channel. We'll try to get some more games in while you're in town. Maybe some Aeronautica which you mainly focus in 😉
@pacothetacobndr
@pacothetacobndr Ай бұрын
Thousand Sons nice!
@petercarlson8240
@petercarlson8240 Ай бұрын
World Eaters general-- toss those dice!!
@fareastwargaming
@fareastwargaming Ай бұрын
Yeah, dice are fickle. He had some REALLY good rolls, but also some bad ones. Same could be said for the TSons. 12 inch charge. No hits by command squad...
@benjaminbrenner745
@benjaminbrenner745 Ай бұрын
Thanks guys!
@fareastwargaming
@fareastwargaming Ай бұрын
Our pleasure!
@TaliaTheNeko
@TaliaTheNeko Ай бұрын
A new batrep to enjoy with my breakfast! Will be a winner as always for sure. Thank you for what you and the fellas at Far East Wargaming do.
@fareastwargaming
@fareastwargaming Ай бұрын
Great way to start a Monday right 😁
@Kiickman
@Kiickman Ай бұрын
Then i see Thousand Sons i always get happy! Love the army. My friend did rock a gunline with 4+ invulnerable bubble
@fareastwargaming
@fareastwargaming Ай бұрын
There are some crazy combos you can do with TSons. But with the good, does come the bad.
@Kiickman
@Kiickman 22 күн бұрын
@@fareastwargaming So figured i would share this with you all. I found a hilarious wombo combo for Tsons that worked stupid well. You can run it as a death star or as 2 seperate squads Death star build Preator in Tartar sauce Armor Combi Volkite, Telepathy, Master of Prospero (the 3d6 drop the highest casting trait) Esoterest in tartar sauce, power sword, force sword(Or axe dealers choice here), Pavoni Esoterest in tartar sauce, power sword, force sword(Or axe dealers choice here), Pavoni Ammitara Ocult Squad about 7 of them. Apothecary with volkite to go with the squad Tech marine with volkite to go in the squad (Optional) You throw them all into a single unit, which you can do because you are attaching the apoth to the occult squad and the characters are joining that squad so it does not break any rules You then abuse Mind song from the Ammitara squad to give all the range weapons Rending 4+ ignore cover, and the 2 esoterests get assault 12 S5 AP5 deflgate void darts So you can run around the board with a 10 inch movement because of pavoni, shooting out 24 rending 4+ deflagate shots not to mention the sniper shots, and volkite shots coming from the preator and the apoth and possibly the tech marine Alternativly you can run 2 squads of the occult with an esoterest in there to spread it out, you are just gambling on getting the power off and not popping your self. Against 2+ 5++ you can get like 11 wounds through a turn, and because of how mind killer is worded it seems to last the entire turn, not just the player turn.
@aldinviray2970
@aldinviray2970 Ай бұрын
Weirdly enough after completing my Space wolves legion, I am working on my Iron Warriors as well - something about doing a shooty army after an all melee one makes sense I guess. This was a great Batrep. Getting to see what a casual game of 30k looks like. I haven't really touched my Deathsworn but seeing how it was utilized here - I am going to give it a try.
@fareastwargaming
@fareastwargaming Ай бұрын
Having some variety in play style to choose from is always nice. Both the SW and the IW are great forces with polar opposite playstyles. If you aren't using the Deathsworn you are missing out on some of the SW punchiness. They are also beautiful sculpts to paint and look at.
@fenris6051
@fenris6051 Ай бұрын
too many videos from FEW complaining about IF and SoH getting minis, get over it. GW made the choice those 2 legions are the poster boys for The Horus Heresy 2.0, that will not change, so seeing video after video with complains and the "It's not really needed" is getting old fast, review the model and move on. Frankly non of these 5 are something I would buy as I have no need for them, but saying the SoH model was worse than the others is BS, is looks cool and different and I would have been excited if I had been a SoH player.
@fareastwargaming
@fareastwargaming 24 күн бұрын
Everyone has their opinions and that’s ok. We actually liked the majority of these models🤔
@Garsty
@Garsty Ай бұрын
Go Salamanders! Into the fires 🔥
@fenris6051
@fenris6051 Ай бұрын
Kinda sad to listen to a grown up complain because of feeling entitled to new toys and not getting what is wanted... I'm not a IF player, so when nothing new and exciting comes out then I just buy something from the wish list, maybe I want a second Dreadnought with the same loadout as one I already got or another pack of jetbikes or assault marines, there is always something I could do. And it's nothing new that GW favors certain chapters in 40k and not really surprising that they have favorite legions in HH, so will not waste time being annoyed over something I already knew when I started collecting HH
@fareastwargaming
@fareastwargaming 24 күн бұрын
We don’t feel entitled about anything, just pointing out that 2 legions consistently getting new toys while others get nothing isn’t healthy for the game.
@fenris6051
@fenris6051 Ай бұрын
As someone who started during the Rogue Trader days I just love everything Mk VI, love these minis but I also decided a long time ago that I don't really want to deal think metal or resin anymore so sadly a pass from me.
@tunabros
@tunabros Ай бұрын
Great video! What mk is the armor on the despoilers?
@Red2Productions
@Red2Productions Ай бұрын
Great battle report, thanks guys! Great to see those tanks!
@fareastwargaming
@fareastwargaming Ай бұрын
Our pleasure!
@tryingtodobetterotto9616
@tryingtodobetterotto9616 Ай бұрын
Isstvan repeats itself
@nathanvarley542
@nathanvarley542 Ай бұрын
I love your channel. I always enjoy watching your games but I'd not have any fun seeing that DG list across the table. Especially with no real line of sight blocking terrain. I'd tonne it down for the sake your opponent. Switch the command squad for some death shroud or something. Every unit doesn't need to be the most optimal choice.
@fareastwargaming
@fareastwargaming Ай бұрын
Thanks for the feedback! We try to play all kinds of lists across our batreps, some fluffy, some with more punch!
@TheBrimfire
@TheBrimfire Ай бұрын
funny that gw for the longest time was doing fine with only neckbeards-.- the push for woke wide audience didnt go well for star wars or doc who so far ^^ or halo or star trek or D&D/MTG
@jbumgarn
@jbumgarn Ай бұрын
Mortarion saves!
@fareastwargaming
@fareastwargaming Ай бұрын
He was certainly favouring his legion in the rolls!
@DeusExMachina10001
@DeusExMachina10001 Ай бұрын
Volkite Heavy Support squads are really underrated IMO. Mathhammer wise, though the guns are only Strength 6 and AP 5, they are actually a little better at killing terminators than lascannons are.
@fareastwargaming
@fareastwargaming Ай бұрын
Haven't run the math myself, but I agree that weight of fire is the best way to whittle down terminator squads.
@naaman3314
@naaman3314 Ай бұрын
Nice battle. In turn one before the inductii charged you forget to roll for the rang of the explosion for the Land Raider.
@fareastwargaming
@fareastwargaming Ай бұрын
Thanks. There would have been a (slim) chance of losing some Terminators (or the Praetor). But five 1s have been seen before 😂
@benjaminbrenner745
@benjaminbrenner745 Ай бұрын
THANKS GUYS
@fareastwargaming
@fareastwargaming Ай бұрын
You're welcome. Glad you enjoyed it.
@giovannidistefano8486
@giovannidistefano8486 Ай бұрын
Hey guys didn't the EC command squad do the counter change reaction? Or they did already before and that's why you cancelled? Just curious btw
@fareastwargaming
@fareastwargaming Ай бұрын
Thanks for pointing that out. It's an editing mistake on Richard's part. So, as you saw from the first roll. The EC just won the roll off, but the Death Guard had forgotten that they have a +2 for Jump Packs, meaning that they would have won that roll off. After deciding to 're roll' that charge. With a +2 roll for the DG, the EC decided to do the safer bet and hold the line to mitigate some attacks.
@giovannidistefano8486
@giovannidistefano8486 Ай бұрын
@@fareastwargaming thanks! And great batrep
@erinbosman4803
@erinbosman4803 Ай бұрын
Great game, gents. It's been a while since I played but would the DG praetor unit's hold your ground test not have failed in the EC turn 1 assault phase due to night fighting?
@DaddyWarCrimes78
@DaddyWarCrimes78 Ай бұрын
Praetors (and anyone else in Terminator armor outside of legion specific units that are Stubborn instead) have Inexorable, which ignores penalties to Leadership for pinning and morale checks other than Fear or from the Corrupted or Anathema subtypes so the praetor gets to use his full Ld10 during Night Fighting morale checks like Hold the Line.
@fareastwargaming
@fareastwargaming Ай бұрын
Cataphractii terminator command squads are hard to shift. WS5 v WS4 plays a big part. 2+/4++ and 2W is another. So unless you're attacking them with Instant Death AP2 weapons it's a tough fight. The inductii were relying on weight of attacks and then rending wounds from the sabres. Sadly, some pretty bad rolling failed to cause 1. Enough wounds. 2. Any rends... Was always a gamble on Paul's part. But honestly one worth taking. Average rolls and he would have killed 1 maybe 2 and taken less wounds on the way back.
@erinbosman4803
@erinbosman4803 Ай бұрын
Ah, yeah. I forgot about inexorable on terminator units. Thanks!
@AnRGFProduction
@AnRGFProduction Ай бұрын
First to watch the first in 30k battle reports.
@fareastwargaming
@fareastwargaming Ай бұрын
Thanks for watching 😁