Impressive engineering is the status quo at Barefaced!!!
@davidsouth83492 күн бұрын
Talking of tone "arguments" I'd really be interested to hear your take on the Class D vs Class AB power amp tone argument and the whole "heft" thing (whatever that is).
@wbertie26044 күн бұрын
That AVD slot reminds me a little of the old Trace Elliot BLX combos.
@user-xv5di8yd7b5 күн бұрын
I liked the super compact the best
@Khaynizzle75 күн бұрын
YES FINALLY! Someone doing drop tunings on these Hempbacks. Been wanting to get these for a hardcore band just because, but I wasn't sure if they would really work well for them. While it's not the distortion I would choose. I can tell these Hempbacks wanna chug. I'm excited.
@BarefacedAudio4 күн бұрын
What kind of distortion would you use? In the room, we're generally happy with the tone, but must admit that when we listen back (JM47 track) it doesn't pack much of a punch...
@user-xv5di8yd7b5 күн бұрын
Simple my strap is the same length standing up as sitting down. 😂
@QBtracksandstuff6 күн бұрын
Nothing but praise for Barefaced. My Super Twin cab is amazing. Thank you to Dave for his patience for letting me try lots of cabs out and to all at BF. Best thing I bought 👍😎
@BarefacedAudio4 күн бұрын
anytime! 🤘
@mzblues16 күн бұрын
In a 1x12, I would go with the 100. In a 2x12, I would probably mix the 100 with a Gold.
@rogerdat78076 күн бұрын
There's more wood/organics in Gold. Remember the GOLDen rule...
@JohnS-yf8dn7 күн бұрын
I really appreciate these stacking videos. I'm looking at getting a new 212 with mismatched speakers and this is extremely helpful. I'd be interested using an Alnico Gold as the never change speaker and adding speakers like the Redback, 'A' type, H75 and Heritage for stacking. I may take the "winners" (to my ears) of these comparisons and order one of your 212s. Thank you!!!
@BarefacedAudio4 күн бұрын
Awesome! Check out our latest video comparing the 100 to the Gold and Blue if you haven't already: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/eqx5ZJegrqy3oJ8.html Not sure if blending the Gold and 100 would be worth it (perhaps too similar in ways) but perhaps consider the 100 over the Gold...
@Factless_Wonder7 күн бұрын
The 100 sounds in the middle of the others. The blue is like if a fat switch was hit on the 100. Nice sounds all round
@robertdonosobuchner31297 күн бұрын
I like the Blue and the Gold!
@BarefacedAudio4 күн бұрын
No love for the 100?
@bladerunner127 күн бұрын
The 100 probably cuts through better byt the Blue still feels like the platonic ideal to my ears
@rogerdat78077 күн бұрын
Alnico Gold 90's... Warm & clear happy times for me! Can't go wrong with Fuchs for truth telling. Well done Gents!
@BarefacedAudio4 күн бұрын
Thanks!
@RulgertGhostalker7 күн бұрын
it's probably the best alnico guitar speaker ever made .... it sounds like it is for sure.
@ryansampson85237 күн бұрын
Awesome, thank you!
@TheMusicianTom8 күн бұрын
I can’t wait to play through the Super Compact that I’ve ordered
@user-xv5di8yd7b9 күн бұрын
To me you could sell me a phone book speaker and I would buy it. The difference between these two escapes me though. PS you sound horrible get someone else to play, PS we love you and your dedication.
@Factless_Wonder9 күн бұрын
What is the name of your band? Do you have material we could listen to?
@reggaebass18579 күн бұрын
Looks like a good cab, I’d like to hear it without all the distortion, just clean deep bass
@redsilverjack9 күн бұрын
Dude you talk so só só muchhhhhhhh. I really believe the product[business] makes sense. I am a lover of deep low frequencies and besides you are one of that person's who talks alot I would invest in you like ampeg. My experience with people talking about your company is insanely good. I love l9ve love a good valve bass amp in a svt with 8x10 and never thought about other sound. Now,,,, you getting in a way of my attention . What a way for discovery and dedication. Again, you talk alot buttttttt , I think it makes sense, at least I believe . I am doing a sub cabinet to go with my guitar rig. There is so much knowledge in consideration,,,,, I truly think you know it 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂. Keep doing it ,please.💪🏻
@mahsidivad9 күн бұрын
Hi Alex, BB3 owner here. Since this and the BB3 fall into the FRFR category, what position would the HF attenuator be in to produce FRFR? Anything other than that spot would be 'almost FRFR', wouldn't it? Love my cab regardless, and this one sounds great too. Just curiosity, and I'm not about to acquire a measurement tool to try and figure it out.
@CollinLittlejohn9 күн бұрын
Really love these detailed videos! How do you think this cab (or a pair for pseudo stereo wet/dry) would fair at taking on baritone guitar from a Fractal Axe FX rack setup?? thanks for doing what you do!
@barst33lpr09 күн бұрын
I have an old Laney GC 120C with some 12" H | H Invader speakers that weren't doing it for me. Found a good deal on a Celestion Hempback and an A Type. They arrive tomorrow. Will update on the sound!
@brendanmooney76079 күн бұрын
Any chance of putting a "Big 12" into production, for players who want all the custom options/retro aesthetics of the Big 24, but still need the modularity (and ability to use as stereo PA cabs) of 2 x BB3?
@robertdonosobuchner31299 күн бұрын
It sounds pretty good! I will send the link to our bassist.
@Jesse-sz6fp9 күн бұрын
I might be the first guy to order a 2x15 Upsizing
@BarefacedAudio9 күн бұрын
do it!!!
@keithpowell533611 күн бұрын
Let's see my experience is with Celestion 70/80, Hot 100, G 12M, G12H30 Anniversary, and Marshall Vintage 12. They all work great for different purposes. I think I am not in love with the 100db sensitivity for some stuff. Something about pushing the power amp a little more. Also I feel like resonant frequency plays a good part in the overall character of the speaker. 70/80 sounds really good with solid state or clean pedal platform. Hot 100 is good for cleans and modern metal, G 12 M - great for classic rock sound, not for cleans unless you like dirty cleans, G12H30 is very bright and in your face - sounds great in alot of situations, but man that thing can wear out the ear drums a little sometimes - great for bluesy clean and hard rock/metal. Marshall Vintage 12 is darker than G12H30, brighter than Marshall Lead 80, and really brings the classic rock sound out of my DSL 20 and Blockhead 5150 in an old ADA cab. I have a few widely different types of amp I use from a small solidstate amps to large tube amps. These speakers all can bring out different qualities of an amp.
@GuyNAustin11 күн бұрын
Too much talking fellas ….. get to the. Sounds, and THEN DISCUSS
@stephenatgraceland11 күн бұрын
Cleanish, the Gold sounds like guitar from tv and film in the 60/70s. Distorted, it makes me think of Alice Cooper songs. I suspect the speaker has made the rounds, acoustically speaking.
@PeterGaspar-vm4cb14 күн бұрын
Hi Alex, do you have frequency response curves for these speakers and your cabinets? Just being curious. Thanks
@marklishman909214 күн бұрын
Eminence made the drivers to bagend specs
@BarefacedAudio13 күн бұрын
@@marklishman9092 I (Alex @ Barefaced) designed the drivers with Jerry at Eminence. Bag End used some good drivers back in the day but none like these two. The only problem with the 12XN and 10CR is that we seem to have left ourselves unable to better them - if we were a big corporation we’d probably have made less good versions so we could incrementally improve them every few years and get to sell more things to repeat customers. As it is the 12XN and 10CR are so finely optimised that if we make them “better” in one way it makes them worse in another!
@oyemimelaza14 күн бұрын
What amp head were you using here? As for the speakers, my vote goes to the Redback!
@BarefacedAudio14 күн бұрын
@@oyemimelaza it’s an Egnater Tweaker. The more we learn about the Redback, the more I think that close mic demos sell it short, and that the AVD really helps it fill the room better with mids due to the large voice coil and dustcap making the forward dispersion narrower.
@oyemimelaza14 күн бұрын
@@BarefacedAudio My interest has been piqued, sir!~
@Reckone1217 күн бұрын
That cab looks like it could kool-aid man through a wall, all by itself
@millermonsterair18 күн бұрын
i use two different speakers via a 2x12 cab, to achieve "MY" tone. i cant get the tone otherwise. that being said, they are the same ohm, so it works out for me.
@virgilrytaar908319 күн бұрын
What have I learned from this? 1. There's just something magical about the whole SVT rig. 2. The Dubster or the Big One blows all of these away 3. Alex ain't a great bass player 4. You can't disagree with him, he'll go in the huff or have a massive rant. I go way back with Barefaced before the hate starts, at this point I've bought 9 cabs direct from BF and more cabs than I can remember 2nd hand. At this point in time I am gigging a Dubster & a Big One, both of which have 15 inch speakers, you know, the ones that Alex says don't have a 'sound'. This is where our worlds collide; 15's in my 45 years experience of gigging do have a sound. Why did he ever use 15's if they don't work for bass? Having said the above, the 15 inch BF cabs are INSANE. I gigged my Dubster last night to a 2000 seater and I didn't need P.A.
@BarefacedAudio19 күн бұрын
@@virgilrytaar9083 15” speakers don’t have “a sound”. Like all different speakers, they all have different sounds - the 3015LF 15” in a Dubster sounds nothing like a Celestion 15” Fullback and a lot more like a 3012LF 12” speaker. I’m glad you like the Barefaced cabs you own and I’m happy to disagree with your assessment of my bass playing. 😉🤘
@virgilrytaar908319 күн бұрын
@@BarefacedAudio we'll disagree forever. Vive la difference
@virgilrytaar908320 күн бұрын
The Dubster blows all of these out of the water
@MrWill989421 күн бұрын
You’ve made a lot of big claims in the comments which a lot of seemingly knowledgeable people have been disagreeing with. I’m very interested in the results, but moreso the methodology, of your testing. When can we expect these follow up videos?
@BarefacedAudio21 күн бұрын
@@MrWill9894 where are these knowledgeable people who are disagreeing with this? In the forthcoming videos I’ll be explaining how all this stuff works, from engineering principles. The testing has already been done and explained in numerous academic papers which I’ll link at the end of the series. But for any naysayers, I’d ask - why do semi-hollow and hollowbody electric guitars exist if the resonance of the support structure has no bearing on the tone?
@MrWill989421 күн бұрын
Great! Where are the videos? Do we have a timeline on when they’ll be coming? Or, you could also post your sources now, that would be cool as well
@BarefacedAudio21 күн бұрын
@@MrWill9894 they’ll happen as I find the time - I’m also the boss and chief engineer at Barefaced so videos have to fit in between everything else that has to happen here.
@MrWill989421 күн бұрын
Take your time, a truly rigorous, double-blind scientific experiment (with controls, spectrographic analysis etc.) surely is a huge undertaking that will take a lot of man hours.
@BarefacedAudio21 күн бұрын
@@MrWill9894 we don’t be doing that - we are too busy designing and building our own products (none of which are guitars and basses). I will explain the physics behind how instruments work and I will link to the proper academic studies that have already been published. The short answer to all of this is that it’s bloody complicated and everyone should stop listening to unqualified KZfaq “experts” (yes it may seem ironic me saying this here but I’m a qualified engineer who has been designing and manufacturing acclaimed audio products for over 15 years) and use their own ears and their own brains. If you haven’t seen the accompanying counter-argument I suggest you watch that too!
@timbrooks52121 күн бұрын
Question: If the resonant frequencies of "electric" instruments make such a difference, then why don't manufacturers make body sensors for the acoustic properties instead of using cruddy piezo sensors in the bridge? I have a hard time believing that this hasn't been researched before... Is there something wrong with the idea of a body sensor on a solid body electric?
@BarefacedAudio21 күн бұрын
@@timbrooks521 what would the “body sensor” be though?
@timbrooks52121 күн бұрын
@@BarefacedAudio Well, Taylor, Martin, LR Baggs, Fishman, they all have body sensors ( basically a microphone ) that picks up vibrations off of the top of an acoustic. They are usually more pleasant to listen to than a piezo. Why can't they do that with a solid body electric to allow for an acoustic tone instead of the piezo systems that are so common?
@BarefacedAudio21 күн бұрын
@@timbrooks521 for the same reason you can’t sing to an electric guitar around a campfire - the acoustic output is too low. You can mic an electric guitar (the intro of Funky Monks is this sound) but you won’t get it loud enough live without feedback.
@timbrooks52121 күн бұрын
@@BarefacedAudio Right, but we're not looking for an acoustic output, we're simply looking for vibration in the body, similar to the top of an acoustic. The sensor would then go into a preamp like any other piezo or body sensor. These body sensors are currently used in some hollow body electrics such as the Taylor T5z. So if the resonant frequencies of a solid body electric still make a difference the we should be able to amplify them.
@BarefacedAudio21 күн бұрын
@@timbrooks521 if a body sensor is a microphone then it requires acoustic output to be able to create an electrical signal, and the quieter the acoustic source, the bigger the problems of noise and feedback.
@mgr_113822 күн бұрын
Yesss. Nice. Thanks for doing these. It took me a bit, but I now really appreciate the style of these videos. It's like being in the shop with someone else testing cabs, not an overproduced marketing video. I must say, I REALLY like the Three10. That would work really good for me as a damn fine rock tone. And now I'm torn, because my initial plan was to get one of your 12s for the accuracy and then play around with modelers and maybe cab sims if i need more "color". What am I gonna do now 🥲
@BarefacedAudio16 күн бұрын
Guess you'll just have to get both? 😏
@mgr_113816 күн бұрын
@@BarefacedAudio can't argue with that :D
@rogerdat780723 күн бұрын
That is some very serious Hogwarts tech there. Now, when asked why my BF cabs sound so 'magical', I will skip the technicals and go straight to: ITS THE GLUE!!!