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@robertplas3947
@robertplas3947 Күн бұрын
Gotta tell you that this video is pretty much a waste of time. A bunch of numbers written on a white board. Then a price comparison. Absolutely of no value to a site that wants to set up a battery backed grid tied hybrid system. But you keep click fishing.
@davidtokhi8602
@davidtokhi8602 2 күн бұрын
I need some help figuring out my solar needs and what I build myself with an electrician. Thank you
@lavectech
@lavectech 5 күн бұрын
Looks like a great battery and it comes with a 6 string inverter! I was thinking of getting micro inverters for our apartment but if I can save money and still have just the battery and a gateway in the garage then I'm happy. Good to see they have rapid shut downs.
@rodneynielsen1442
@rodneynielsen1442 6 күн бұрын
Not having Micro-Inverters, is a deal killer for me.
@newtloken7884
@newtloken7884 7 күн бұрын
Nice overview and thanks for correcting previous info. That's a righteous thing otherwise, bad info piles up.. Hey, so one thing I'm always interested in is where the company is based and also where it's manufactured. I know, I can look it up but I think it's important in a side by side comparison. And besides employing my 'neighbors', it also may have warranty implications. I always prefer to buy American, except for an occasional Honda motorcycle... Thanks for your efforts! N
@Hypertrev11
@Hypertrev11 8 күн бұрын
Why would different strings need to face the same direction? PW3 has 6MPPT connectors. Wouldn't each string wired to different MPPT's not care which way the other one is faceing?
@icemaniiscott
@icemaniiscott 8 күн бұрын
I was deciding last month between these same 2 inverters... I ended up going with EG4... a MAJOR factor was the friendly support from their tech support people, answering questions before the purchase and this continued after as well
@bill2292
@bill2292 11 күн бұрын
For the love of all that is good, please put down the pointer! It's really annoying.
@bill2292
@bill2292 11 күн бұрын
Good video, you know your stuff. Please put down the pointer when you talk bro!
@bearupfarm1818
@bearupfarm1818 13 күн бұрын
Sol Ark hay a better tech support. EG4 has a terrible tech support. I have experienced this.
@worthmor
@worthmor 13 күн бұрын
True, hopefully they will be around for a long time. They seem to have lots of sales.
@aerojet393
@aerojet393 13 күн бұрын
Okay , these are the comparisons numbers for now , could change!
@dw7244
@dw7244 14 күн бұрын
How are you protecting electrical workers from backfeed during storm restoration effors?
@adon8672
@adon8672 17 күн бұрын
How much energy (in kilowatt hours) can the power wall 3 actually store?
@franklinrand9228
@franklinrand9228 18 күн бұрын
You seriously need to stop bouncing back and forth, it's really distracting from your message.
@MatthewYBarbo
@MatthewYBarbo 18 күн бұрын
Thank you for breaking down the comparisons between these two units. I personally think this is great information for anyone who's been debating or battling the decision to make between these two units. Keep up the great content!
@nestrodamus
@nestrodamus 21 күн бұрын
Did you say mins string voltage of 60v??? That’s wild! With string voltage flexibility that low you really wouldn’t need module level mppt
@andrewyang1446
@andrewyang1446 21 күн бұрын
Thanks for this video. I think Solark wins.
@RockyBroadSolarLLC
@RockyBroadSolarLLC 20 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching @andrewyang1446
@surfcow
@surfcow 21 күн бұрын
Thank you. Well done.
@RockyBroadSolarLLC
@RockyBroadSolarLLC 21 күн бұрын
@surfcow Thanks for watching!
@aaronrunkle
@aaronrunkle 21 күн бұрын
Respect. Thanks for clearing this up for us!
@RockyBroadSolarLLC
@RockyBroadSolarLLC 21 күн бұрын
@aaronrunkle Thanks for watching!
@stevenfrazier8939
@stevenfrazier8939 22 күн бұрын
It would be good to look into the leg imbalance on the Sol-Ark. I know the EG4 can do 8,000 watts on one leg. and can hold 14 kilowatts for 10 minutes
@andrewyang1446
@andrewyang1446 22 күн бұрын
Also, doesn’t Solark have an EMP-hardened inverter, too?
@RockyBroadSolarLLC
@RockyBroadSolarLLC 21 күн бұрын
@andrewyang1446 They sure do. I cover it in my original video kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Z8CGqrmcu5edfmw.html
@andrewyang1446
@andrewyang1446 21 күн бұрын
@@RockyBroadSolarLLC Thank you!
@GILBERTVILORIA-hf3oe
@GILBERTVILORIA-hf3oe 22 күн бұрын
Luxpower Company have been in business since 2017. 18kpv max peak power is 24kw. max continues power output with solar (18kw) 12kw ac output plus 6kw charging power of the battery.
@RockyBroadSolarLLC
@RockyBroadSolarLLC 21 күн бұрын
Hi @GILBERTVILORIA-hf3oe thanks for watching the channel. The 20,400 watt "peak output power (10 sec)" is not listed on the datasheet. For some reason EG4 lists their peak output power in minutes, which is not the industry standard. The "max continuous power" only refers to the AC ouput, which is 12,000 watts only. I believe you are referring to the "Max Utilized Solar Power" when combining the AC and DC power together. It is really difficult trying to compare apples to apples in these videos when none of the manufacturers use the same specs. I wish there was just one standard for the entire industry!
@haroldsvoyage8912
@haroldsvoyage8912 22 күн бұрын
Thank you! Very helpful and easy to understand. Love the Pro and Cons explanation and examples given. 👍👍👍
@RockyBroadSolarLLC
@RockyBroadSolarLLC 21 күн бұрын
@haroldsvoyage8912 Thanks for the kind words and for watching!
@worthmor5146
@worthmor5146 22 күн бұрын
EG4 is made by Luxpower. They have been in business since 2017.
@RockyBroadSolarLLC
@RockyBroadSolarLLC 21 күн бұрын
Absolutely agree, but EG4 has not been around that long. If something goes wrong with your equipment, you aren't going to be calling Luxpower, you will be dealing with EG4. Thanks for watching!
@stalwart56k
@stalwart56k 22 күн бұрын
I would strongly encourage anyone looking to buy EG4 to look at forum posts of end users for their specific product. Regarding the 18kpv, I've read posts on DIYSolarforum that it's ability to push power back into an existing panel "meter zero" hasn't worked for some users, and they had a rough time getting support to fix it. The support for EG4 by Signature Solar is terrible. You can't just call up Signature Solar and get someone who knows how to fix or address any issue with an EG4 unit. For Sol Ark, the Vice President of my region emailed me regarding a question with my Sol Ark 15k the same day. Even our friends in Taiwan with MPP Solar respond faster and more accurately for issues with their units. Maybe the 18kpv is massive improvement from previous EG4 products, but to me it's not worth the headache. I'd rather go non-grid interactive with the less expensive EG4 6000 xp or get a Sol-Ark. I'm very happy with my electric bill using the "Limit Power to Home" feature of the Sol Ark 15k.
@rlyman111
@rlyman111 23 күн бұрын
Thanks for clearing up the misinformation.
@RockyBroadSolarLLC
@RockyBroadSolarLLC 23 күн бұрын
Thank you for watching!
@leinitta1760
@leinitta1760 23 күн бұрын
Outstanding....great comparison. Would love to see AC vs DC coupled systems compared (Enphase 5P vs Tesla PW 3...with pros and cons).
@RockyBroadSolarLLC
@RockyBroadSolarLLC 21 күн бұрын
Great suggestion! I will add it to the list!
@samfish6938
@samfish6938 23 күн бұрын
NHX-10kW - Split Phase 120V / 240V , Outdoor rated, grid Interactive, UL Listed, 4 PV Inputs to 500V,
@RockyBroadSolarLLC
@RockyBroadSolarLLC 21 күн бұрын
@samfish6938 I'll have to check this out and do a review on it. Thanks for watching!
@KB3M
@KB3M 23 күн бұрын
Why not just use smart outlets to control low priority loads? Even a dozen of these would cost next to nothing compared to the cost of a smart panel plus installation. Plus many homes are not wired to breakers in a logical enough fashion to come close to the granular control of smart outlets.
@RockyBroadSolarLLC
@RockyBroadSolarLLC 21 күн бұрын
That would certainly be an option @KB3M and is a great suggestion. Thanks for watching the channel!
@VishalRaoOnYouTube
@VishalRaoOnYouTube 24 күн бұрын
This may sound like a strange question, but if I get a Powerwall 3, do I no longer need a whole house surge protector like an Intermatic? IOW does the Tesla gateway handle surges from the grid or will an additional whole house surge protector be beneficial? I live in central Texas and and we're getting some weird blackouts , brownouts...and surges where some breakers get flipped.
@altosack
@altosack 24 күн бұрын
Most people only have a sub-panel controlled by the Powerwall. If that’s the case, it will not help in that regard. Basically, you would have to have it set to power your house directly, with a grid backup. This will cost you greatly by having this huge (Powerwall) capacity, and taking an efficiency hit for every kWh you consume.
@RockyBroadSolarLLC
@RockyBroadSolarLLC 21 күн бұрын
Hi @VishalRaoOnKZfaq I would always suggest having an external whole house surge arrestor. They are now required by code to protect sensitive electronics such as ground fault circuit interrupters and arc fault circuit interrupters. Most can easily connect through a circuit breaker in your main service panel and only cost about $100-$200. That is much cheaper than replacing a bunch of sensitive electronics. As far as I am aware the Tesla Gateway does not contain any additional surge protection. Now if the grid is unstable and the voltage or frequency goes out of tolerance, the Tesla system will sense that and disconnect from the grid until it is stable again, but a true surge can come through in milliseconds and really do some damage if you aren't protected.
@VishalRaoOnYouTube
@VishalRaoOnYouTube 21 күн бұрын
@@RockyBroadSolarLLC Thank you!
@dscientist8268
@dscientist8268 25 күн бұрын
Have a 8k ask my inside link about upgrade to a 10k said don't, why? The difference is all software
@RockyBroadSolarLLC
@RockyBroadSolarLLC 21 күн бұрын
Hmmm....I am not sure about this to be honest, but thanks for watching the channel!
@russbritt4100
@russbritt4100 25 күн бұрын
Overpriced and impossible to buy you can order one but when you'll get it no one knows meanwhile I have zero electricity. Tried getting a powerwall in 2016 & again in 2020. Ther are better cheaper and actually available to purchase today rather than order and pray it comes someday
@RockyBroadSolarLLC
@RockyBroadSolarLLC 21 күн бұрын
Hi @russbritt4100. I remember the days of having customers waiting for years on the Powerwall 1 after paying a deposit to be put on the list, and certainly there were some supply issues on Powerwall 2 at times, but both Powerwall 2 and Powerwall 3 are now widely available in the U.S. without any delays. We are installing them in 23 states across the U.S. as we speak. Thanks for watching!
@grahamastor4194
@grahamastor4194 26 күн бұрын
Optimizers could be used in conjunction with the Powerwall 3 correct? That is no different from when solar PV with optimizers sent DC to a standalone inverter and from there to a battery (if you had one). Thanks for the details and the clrificaion on LFP batteries. Looking forward to some future videos of installations with the Gateway 3. We don't have the same meters here in the UK, so it would be Gateway3. Good video, thanks.
@RockyBroadSolarLLC
@RockyBroadSolarLLC 26 күн бұрын
Hi @grahamastor4194 Tesla does not provide any guidance about any way to use 3rd party optimizers on their system. Hypothetically you would think there would be a way to rig them up, but I assume you would be voiding the system warranty if you found a way to do that successfully. I would think if you wanted to use optimizers you would have to AC couple a different solar system with the Powerwall 3, but that would also cause you to loose the benefits of that DC coupled architecture of the all in one Powerwall 3 system. Thanks so much for the kind words and for watching the channel!
@maverickmacgyver
@maverickmacgyver 29 күн бұрын
Do you happen to know Joe @SolarSurge ?
@RockyBroadSolarLLC
@RockyBroadSolarLLC 28 күн бұрын
I do not know Joe, but honestly he was an inspiration for me to start my own KZfaq channel. I am one of his subscribers and watch most of his videos. I like to keep tabs on what all of the solar KZfaqrs are up to. Thanks for watching and for the comment sir!
@billy-go9kx
@billy-go9kx 29 күн бұрын
This guy does not know what he is talking about. Do not do business with him.
@RockyBroadSolarLLC
@RockyBroadSolarLLC 28 күн бұрын
Hi @billy-go9kx, thanks for watching the channel and for the comment. Can you please elaborate on this accusation?
@billy-go9kx
@billy-go9kx 27 күн бұрын
@@RockyBroadSolarLLC You sound like you don't know what you are talking about and then promote your business. You are not technically trained or just a bad communicator. Did you rehearse your little demo? Did you have somebody fact check your information. Your pushing products I disagree with because they are just add-ons to increase the cost.
@rogerwhite5022
@rogerwhite5022 Ай бұрын
Do you install systems in Johnson City Tn?
@RockyBroadSolarLLC
@RockyBroadSolarLLC 28 күн бұрын
Hi @rogerwhite5022. Unfortunately at this time I cannot offer any turn key systems in Tennessee whatsoever. Right now I am an independent energy consultant for one of the largest solar installation platforms in the US and I can offer turn key installations in 23 out of the 50 states. We are constantly expanding but this is the list as of 5/28/2024. Thank you for watching the channel! Arizona California Colorado Connecticut Delaware Florida Hawaii Idaho Illinois Massachusetts Maryland North Carolina New Jersey New Mexico Nevada Ohio Pennsylvania Puerto Rico South Carolina Texas Utah Virginia West Virginia
@TeslaElonSpaceXFan
@TeslaElonSpaceXFan Ай бұрын
Tesla Energy! 😍
@RockyBroadSolarLLC
@RockyBroadSolarLLC Ай бұрын
Boom!
@bluedrew
@bluedrew Ай бұрын
Awesome video! Clears up qiestions after your BG3 video. And many ither questions. Like and subscribe! Only thing missing was VTH and VTG, VTX. Hoping this is all included at some point. Have Cybertruck soon which includes paid for 3V gateway. There are enormous advantages to having PW3 in system. 3V gateway will be PW3 compatible at some point, but not now. Tesla said that I could do 3V gateway now, but would require special support for commisioning to disable 3V site controller. They recommend I instal BG2/3 or Backup Switch instead. Any thoughts about which gateway to go with? Mostly concearned about future compatability with VTH and VTG.
@RockyBroadSolarLLC
@RockyBroadSolarLLC Ай бұрын
Hi @bluedrew it is really tough for me to give any advice on this subject, as I am not an expert in this area, but it does appear that on Tesla's website it does show it paired with PW3 and the backup switch. I think the decision would be more based on your home loads. If you want to purchase a PW3, back up your entire home, and you are willing to wait a few more weeks/months for the GW3 to hit the shelves, the GW3 would probably be the better choice just because it is slightly less expensive. But again, I have no experience with bi-directional Tesla charging, so until I got my hands on an installation manual and some datasheets, it is a tough call.
@JayavindaJayavinda
@JayavindaJayavinda Ай бұрын
Can the pw3 be an off grid system?
@RockyBroadSolarLLC
@RockyBroadSolarLLC Ай бұрын
Great question. As far as I am aware, they don't support off grid applications. I think it would likely void the warranty if the system was not connected to the grid and internet.
@ericjohnson3967
@ericjohnson3967 Ай бұрын
If you have an EV can PW3 charge it DC without inversion? Straight from the panels or battery?
@RockyBroadSolarLLC
@RockyBroadSolarLLC Ай бұрын
To my knowledge, no. I don't believe Tesla has developed a DC:DC EV charger. The SolarEdge Smart EV Charger is the only product I am aware of that can do that.
@ericjohnson3967
@ericjohnson3967 Ай бұрын
@@RockyBroadSolarLLC I just took a look. Up to 24KW, impressive.
@marvinw4069
@marvinw4069 Ай бұрын
Where can we order the Gateway 3?
@RockyBroadSolarLLC
@RockyBroadSolarLLC Ай бұрын
The Gateway 3 is brand new as of last week. I am not sure if they are available for purchase right at this moment or not. They would be available through the same distributors that offer Tesla products. Tesla has just released this information and training for their install partners. Thanks for watching the channel!
@SoCalVipers
@SoCalVipers Ай бұрын
This is by a huge margin, the best explanation I have seen on how Powerwalls, and in particular, the powerwall 3 works. I can't tell you how many 20 minute videos on KZfaq I've come across that tell me nothing more than the bold text on the Tesla website - which only takes 5 minutes to read. I really hope my installer is as well informed as you. On my next phone call, I'll now have lots of intelligent questions for him. FYI - installing Solar in CA is just plain awful. Powewalls need to be spaced 3 feet from any door or window, 3 feet from a gas line, and here's the killer - 3 feet from each other. You need a pretty big, windowless house to install more than one or two Powerwalls. The utility only buys back at 7 cents per kwh. But charges 60 cents peak, and 24 cents off peak. You basically need to be 100% grid independent.
@RockyBroadSolarLLC
@RockyBroadSolarLLC Ай бұрын
Yes, the International Fire Codes can be a pain in the butt to abide by, and some homes just flat out aren't eligible for a battery when the AHJs don't allow any wiggle room. LA County is about the worst when it comes to that. They are one of a few AHJs out in CA that do not recognize the UL9540A testing that allows these batteries to be stacked closer than 3 feet apart even though the battery manufacturers have shown it is perfectly safe to do so. Unfortunately if you live in one of those areas, you drew the short stick. Thanks so much for the kind words!
@freeheeler09
@freeheeler09 Ай бұрын
Great video. I’m still a bit frustrated with all generations of Powerwalls. They are far too expensive for most homeowners. I was recently quoted a price of $1,000 or so per kWh installed. To go off grid, keep power through the winter, and top off an EV at night, the average homeowner will need at least 50 kWh of storage? To actually disrupt the electric utility cartels, battery storage will need to drop by about 80%.
@freeheeler09
@freeheeler09 Ай бұрын
Typo fix. Battery storage costs will need to drop by 80%.
@RockyBroadSolarLLC
@RockyBroadSolarLLC Ай бұрын
Batteries are certainly the most expensive part of an solar energy storage system. They have come a long way in the last 10 years and the industry is constantly innovating while prices continue to drop. But yes, the average American home is thirsty for energy and replacing the grid entirely is not an easy feat. Thanks for watching!
@altosack
@altosack 24 күн бұрын
I think the solution is to store as much energy as possible as heat (and cool, and even gravity) rather than electricity. While this is very hard to retrofit, it’s a travesty it’s not acknowledged in the relevant codes. Of course, a whole system design like this will prioritize efficiency as well. If it were up to me, I’d make it a requirement for new builds, but don’t consider myself an autocrat, just a pragmatist.
@chasl3645
@chasl3645 Ай бұрын
Can me and a couple other neighbors string these things together. So that we could share the 30 KW of PV. Now that would be an interesting microgrid. Seems like the redundancy would be nice.
@RockyBroadSolarLLC
@RockyBroadSolarLLC Ай бұрын
You can certainly stack multiple PW3s and multiple solar arrays together, but most AHJs and utilities would not allow neighbors to share solar arrays and batteries. In general it is one system per utility meter, so if each person has their own meter, they would each need their own individual system. That being said, shared community solar is a growing trend that I am not an expert on.
@scotthall1381
@scotthall1381 Ай бұрын
You could do this on a off Grid system
@scotthall1381
@scotthall1381 Ай бұрын
Why use this over a backup Switch? Only reason I see is V2H with the cybertruck
@RockyBroadSolarLLC
@RockyBroadSolarLLC Ай бұрын
If your utility company allows the use of the Backup Switch and you are buying a whole home backup system, then the Backup Switch is the way to go. Unfortunately the vast majority of utilities in the U.S. have not yet approved it's use in which case you would have to revert to either the Tesla Backup Gateway 2 or 3.
@bluedrew
@bluedrew Ай бұрын
Gateway 3 has that sub panel. Might allow for easier and cheaper wiring to a charger and the PW3 itself. That's an advantage for me. My main panel is at back of garage. Putting PW3 there not a good idea (car can crash into it). For me better to have BG3 on side of house along with PW3 and short cable run to a new UWC.
@scotthall1381
@scotthall1381 Ай бұрын
@@bluedrewtotally in your case that makes sense. I live in AZ where we have combo meter panels where the back up switch is great because you don’t have to rewire a whole panel to install the gateway.
@shrugitov
@shrugitov Ай бұрын
The AC coupled system is also safer than running high voltage DC cables, where DC arcing from damaged cables caused by rodents and mechanical wear can cause roof fires and electrocution risks.
@RockyBroadSolarLLC
@RockyBroadSolarLLC Ай бұрын
Great input. Thanks for watching the channel!
@feedvid
@feedvid Ай бұрын
Another great video. Thanks.
@RockyBroadSolarLLC
@RockyBroadSolarLLC Ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@feedvid
@feedvid Ай бұрын
Wow, this is a great idea! So simple.
@RockyBroadSolarLLC
@RockyBroadSolarLLC Ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@feedvid
@feedvid Ай бұрын
This is a great video! Thanks for putting this information out. I am ready to install solar and having well presented information like this is so helpful!
@RockyBroadSolarLLC
@RockyBroadSolarLLC Ай бұрын
Glad to hear it. Thanks for watching the channel!