Ryzen 9000 is delayed by 2 weeks not to 2025. Don't manufacture fake news.

I've been using I9 13th gen for almost two years, and I9 14th gen since nov last year. So far, I've never experience overheat or crashing, so I'm lucky? 😂

Number 13 and 14 are always bad luck. I don't know why they continued with these numbers.

im just hoping the 5000 series will help drop the 4000 series prices.

help me decide what to buy within this month i7 12700 or i5 13500 i used it for video editing no gaming. they have the same price here in ph I am afraid with 13th 14th gen issue i dont have peace of mind

Interesting experience eh. When I started using TrueNAS a few years ago, I had failures with many consumer non-NAS drives. These days I only use CMR Drives that are designed for NAS use, I now have perhaps a failed drive every few years. I have around 20 HDD's ranging from 4 to 14TB, but only have 4 spinning 24/7.

I'm wallet team. Bur not gonna lie. I've been using a 3950x and I like how optimized the energy consumption it has. I no longer use it cause I gave it to my bro. I was keeping an eye to the intel i9 while waiting for the 9950x from AMD. It still uses less energy than their intel counterpart. It's sad to see how intel F this time. I think I'll go with AMD next year. The downside of AMD is the bugs with bios and ram issues and usually random bugs with windows. Is what I experienced with my 3950x till It got stable after about half a year or a bit more. So, having to deal with those things on AMD. Kinda bugs me a bit but it does seem nothing to what intel has right now. Difficult times to buy a processor now. 7000 AMD series is just red flag atm

Core i 13 and 14 gen with degradation problems, Core Ultra a major flop, Ryzen 9000 another flop. For me x86 architecture is giving it's final breath.

Hey man quick question is ryzen 5 7000 series good for gaming in highest settings i think buying i5 with 13gen HX is not a really great idea at the moment

Are mobile cpu´s prone to this? I have a I7-13700H.

had a ryzen 4900x. upgraded to a 13900k. now im like.... sigh

I have been on intel consistently since Core 2 Duo. This 13900k will be my last Intel CPU.

I got no clue wich gen etc i have but only things ive noticed is war thunder running with heavy stutters and my browser sometimes being slow (reboot fixes browser but not war thunder)

ive never had a flagship card. but when the 3090ti came out, i promised myself i would buy the 5090 in a few years on release. I just want to play minecraft with crazy mods at high fps - and counterstrike

Fixed one problem, creates another. 😂

I have a i7 14700f and haven't witnessed any issues really. I got it mid June, is it likely it will have issues?

So I haven’t used my pc since June, because I moved so it’s been sitting in a box but I do have a i9-13900k. Never had instability issues before. Should I just switch the cpu out orrr??? Should I be worried

I hope the performance difference between the 12700k and the 13700k isn't a lot. I just bought the 13700k about a month ago and with these issues going on I pulled it out till the fix and bought a 12700k. I'm rolling it with a 3080ti. I'm seeing some peeps saying there will be bottlenecking and some are saying not so much. Just bought the Corsair QHD 32 inch 1440p monitor to help alleviate the bottlenecking if there is any. been building PC's for over 20 years, but took a 5 year break. so I'm a little ignorant to the newer stuff. Any thoughts on this?

What we know as an absolute fact ? We are going to pay through our noses. Maybe we get a 5080 with 12gb of ram yes ? goodie :)

just switch to amd this dog intel will die just like kanon camera corporate

Smells lika another class action lawsuit

i5 13600kf also includes this Intel bug, should I update the BIOS?

Thanks for fighting against the thing I hate the most, CENSORSHIP!

I have a 13900KS and a 14900KS. Both chips are working fine with new microcode update.

The moment a polished up enough version of Android x86, x64 shows up, equipped with things like Wine, Proton, etc out of the box, to let me run the software I actually want to run, not that ugly, limited caveman crap off Linux repositories, it's goodbye Microsuck once and for all! Enough of the abuse. Make it immutable, with the option of preserving your Windows program files directories, maybe even exe program settings too, and the sky's the limit! We gotta wait for such an Android PC, cause standard Linux PC developers are never gonna get this fixed, if they haven't throughout decades already. Their heads are screwed on backwards. Maybe they're geniuses, but they're like Rainman. They don't recognize the obvious.

Linux is great for servers, but as a desktop OS for the average Sally or Bill (for whom something like Excel is enough of a pain in the ass), it's just a cool concept, at most. Nobody's gonna be searching all over the internet for command lines to copy and paste in the Linux terminal, with their fingers crossed they don't screw things up even more, to fix problems that on every other system you fix in a matter of a few button clicks. It's just geek autism that this isn't a problem, and everything's the fault of everyone else, from Adobe and Nvidia, to the common user for being too stupid. Google proved with Android a user-friendly Linux is not only possible, but extremely profitable, yet to Linux PC distro developers and fan boys, it's always everyone else's fault nobody wants to use Linux. Nobody wants to use Linux, cause the shit is literally being gate kept through completely retarded complications.

I saw another leak where a review sample, I don't remember what model, did not reach its advertised speed. That makes a lot more sense to me for such a delayed launch. I guess we'll see what happens.

Will this be my first time having an amd system? Perhaps. I mean, I was literally about to upgrade my stuff to a 4080 build. Now I need to completely change my plans 😑

Yeah, regarding Intel, I think that they are going to get sued no matter what. Depending on damages, and considering that they already have a huge amount of debt, it could finish them.

Currently using i9-12900k. I had to RMA my older i9-9900k because memory kit XMP overclocked and broke the memory controller. CPU specs said 2900 and kit was 3200. Abotu 1-2 months it started to do BSOD and next month it didn't boot to windows. Dropped to jedec and it worked only 1-2 more months then I started RMA. First they tried to push that it was MB but I asked my brother to buy i3 for testing and it worked. That was enough to rule it was broken CPU. After I received chip from RMA then I used that 2900 for memory. I also used that cheap i3 when i9 was on RMA trip so I can use my main rig and do other stuff with my computer and I had to play only light games. Can't remember how many weeks it was. I donated this set to my niece when I updated to i9-12900k and she is still using it without problems. Note: Basically over volt damage shorten chip lifespan. Also reminder that ESD may cause "hidden damage" that start to show after months. First it is little more current consumption and then it start to fail. Remember one business owner that build computers and he get lots of warranty repairs after 6-8 months and almost always broken cpu. After improving ESD safety those warranty cases almost ended.

Thank god Im one of the lucky ones. 0 issues with a 13900k so far. 5.5-6.0 P cores and 4.6 E cores at 1.38-1.44v

no one is speaking about specific cpu which caused this errors because i am using intel i9 13900k i have faced a lot of bsod before but not every day i have made temperature control limit on bios now it is not creating any issues , i agree what your telling but controlled over clocking issue but exteneded supported clocking limit will not cause any such issues , this issue is coming from few cpu not on all cpu's

I’m hoping a 4090 last me a long time

Is it necessary to update BIOS for cpu 13600kf i5 to solve this bug problem of 13th and 14th generation processors?

My new prebuilt PC is coming tomorrow. I'm not versed on computers, so I'm only learning about this now. I guess I should probably not use it until the update is pushed. Damn I was so ready to jump right in and start gaming

The engineers at Intel had a CEO problem. The CEO would not invest a competitive fab process. To get Intel’s fab process to work at higher frequencies for their performance cores, they would allow a short time boost and a thermal velocity boost. These “boosts” frequencies were limited by a 100 C temperature limit. However there is a delay in sensing the temperature. Repeated exposure these delays leads to thermal damage (migration). There was a significant boost in performance between the 12 and 13 gen high end Intel CPUs because of a more aggressive implementation of this strategy. Gamers would be likely to use thermal velocity boost more often and with great benefit because of the interment loading during game play. The thermal velocity boost kills the CPU and because almost everyone uses the extreme memory profile (XMP) Intel won’t give out new CPUs. I can report my experience with a sample size of two 13900k CPUs systems that I built for an AI programmer to be used to test code for AI learning and inference. The code was initially tested using the CPU, while the test using large data bases used 4090 GPUs. Both systems used 2 sticks of 32GB 6400 MHz ram running at 6000 MHz. Two computers were used for reliability so that a failure of one would only cause a delay of a few hours. The thermal solution was tested using Cinebench R23 for the CPU and Furmark on the GPU. The goal was to get the highest Cinebench score while maintaining a CPU temperature in the low 80s C. This would allow higher ambient temperatures and dust accumulation. The Cinebench R23 multi score just over 38,000. Then short time and thermal velocity boosts were disabled. Again frequencies were adjusted to maximize Cinebench scores. These result were guarded by current and power maximums. The CPU’s package temperature was 82 C with a Cinebench R23 multi score just over 40,000.

i have 14900kf. it crashed for days i thought i was another system problem. i lowered the ration, it suddenly stop crashing. now wtf im gonna do with this. it was a expensive thing to buy for me. never gonna buy intel again, neveeer.

7800X3D and AMD Ryzen user here, I switched to Team Red from Team Blue (highly probable for good) for every reason you outlined in this video. My 14900K experience was AWFUL.

The fact that this is their response to this issue makes me never wanna buy an intel product again.

I pity the fools who still buying intel to this date.

I have an Asus Z790 Hero motherboard with an Intel 13900K processor. After applying Intel's recommended BIOS updates, virtual machines on VMware became almost unusable. Everything moves extremely jerkily. Also in multithreading, performance dropped by 11%. Intel no longer exists for me.

My Asus ROG Strix z790 E Gaming with i9 13900K is stable with the 1801 Bios.. I Had to roll back after updating to 2402, it became unstable^^

I have a 13700F and can't adjust much in the BIOS, I've turned off Intel Turbo Boost and went from 1.37v (highest) to 0.85v (highest) with little effect on performance; should I be concerned? I am not facing any issues thankfully, I just need to know if a lot of this is just fearmongering/overblown or if it's a legit concern for non-K chips - I know Intel stated it can be any 13th/14th gen, but the Warframe devs' graph mostly showed i9's and K variants Really don't know what to do right now

11900k, AVX512

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When ever I buy intel CPU's... I always buy the lower wattage versions and non K series chips. I did buy an i7-12700k only because it was on sale at the time for $245.00USD. In the BIOS I set it as a boxed cooler so it uses less power and runs cooler, but it's still fast.

Intel, pulling a Boeing.

My biggest question is will the microcode update in august fix the degradation issue or will it just blunt it? I'm looking to upgrade my old workhorse from 2015 which uses a 4790k during the end of this year. I was seriously looking at the i7 14700KF as my replacement until this bomb shell happened. If the micro code fixes the degradation problem completely and stop the bsod and crashes I might still go with 14700KF because i really want that 20 cores since I do solid-works simulation a lot besides gaming. But if it just blunts the problem and the raptor lake is still just perpetually degrades I think I will just get the Ryzen 7900x3d. Sucks that it's only 12 cores but at least it's stable.

No more Intel in the future,Switching to AMD.Havent had any issues with my i7 13700KF but because its a 13th gen I'm probably going to build a Ryzen 9 PC just so I can fully trust my PC.