I fear that UAE is just too strong as a team, even if Jonas is somehow getting back to 100% (which i can't imagine).
@breencessm34408 сағат бұрын
Look, at the end of the day all we can do is speculate and give our 2 cents here and there. Jonas broke this and that he can't be at 100%, He'll never be as strong again,so n so has a strong team, so and so should recover for the Vuelta and forget about the tour, so and so should maybe try for stage wins etc... The truth however is that we're not Jonas and aren't at the Visma camp. We don't know. So lets wait and see 🤷🏾♀️
@user-fo9bv2mm1g9 сағат бұрын
6:06 Riis did NOT win the Tour de France.
@user-fo9bv2mm1g9 сағат бұрын
I'm afraid your beloved anchovy is not winning Le Tour.
@user-sm5we1fu2x10 сағат бұрын
Hahaha I don’t think @CyclingDane could ever go against Jonas. 2022 Jumbo with most based team and 2023 with Tadej coming in after broken wrist. Both are legends, both are great, I can’t wait!!
@thecyclingdane9 сағат бұрын
Hahahahhahaha I didnt think I was biased
@markaponte705710 сағат бұрын
Ebike wins all day long
@nilskercher12 сағат бұрын
Pogacar has issues with acceleration in high altitude? If you all have watched him in the Giro this year I'm afraid that there is no room for doubt! Let Jonas recover. This year belongs to Tadej!
@silverblood266713 сағат бұрын
truth be told visma is in a very low point with I believe both wout and vingegaar not in full and wout not joining the tdf. sepp did not do much this year. and its also a year with 4 greats fighting for it Poja, remco, primoz and if tur vingegaar.
@mikedittsche13 сағат бұрын
The famous Tadbugacar
@AndreVoks13 сағат бұрын
If Jonas skip tdf we will receive one more boring grand tour Pogachar dominantion
@ErickGonzalesF13 сағат бұрын
Copium, sorry mate but it's tough for Vingo this year after that crash.
@davoforrest515 сағат бұрын
Tadi will not bonk this year at the TDF and gift the trophy to Jonas ❤
@Mike-zx1kx15 сағат бұрын
He did not bonk it last years, he lost to a better rider with a great team.
@mrsewe4176 сағат бұрын
Pog got steamrolled last year by the worlds best grand tour rider who loses 17 seconds when he has a bad day..
@gnosis645216 сағат бұрын
Ayuso = Matteo Kuss = Yates Jonas = Pog Wout = ???? Visma has the upper hand
@jackal623414 сағат бұрын
Wout on Pollitt or Wellens
@hoebertrabeck162116 сағат бұрын
he cant win. just like pogi couldnt win when he crashed in spring. at tdf level a month of missed preperation is just too much
@fulviopolce978516 сағат бұрын
Con l'aiuto di una squadra alla sua altezza.
@Gixer750pilot17 сағат бұрын
No.7. The Lidl Trek rider bought himself down after moving to the left after looking over his right shoulder
@WanderingSword18 сағат бұрын
Jonas will never be the same. Too fragile
@kasavivernonmaseka568218 сағат бұрын
He can't beat Taj at this moment
@Zawisza49918 сағат бұрын
Personally I don't like UAE lineup for TDF. Too much mountain domestiques and too little power for the flat and control breakaways. Mountain trains are overrated imo. however I don't know if they had any alternative to replace for example sivakow or almeida or ayuso with someone who is better on the flat
@jackal623414 сағат бұрын
U must be new in cycling, kid, this isnt crit race. Its all about smoking ur enemy in mountains to win the so called GC lmao.
@Zawisza4999 сағат бұрын
@@jackal6234 and u must be grandpa that doesnt see changes and has 0 understanding of racing. Pogacar doesn't need team to pace all day long, for him it's better have 2-3 very strong guys who can pace last climb so he can use his dynamic and gain time this way like last TDF. 2023 TDF stage showed how important is to control breakaways.
@BenjaminUbayyed-po9tc19 сағат бұрын
it'll be interesting because tadej seems to have gotten stronger, as if that were possible
@alexwoolley517319 сағат бұрын
The only way Jonas beats Pogi is if he's at 100%.... otherwise you'll get the Paris-Nice 2023 version of Jonas
@zwiftfighter202620 сағат бұрын
did you see Pogacha unzip the jeasey? That means he was crush. I saw that 3 times. All made by Jonas. He is the only one can beat Pogacha in mountain.
@markwatson805120 сағат бұрын
No, Jonas should rest and recover until next year. Period.
@thecellulontriptometer416621 сағат бұрын
Honestly, I just hope he is able to get back to the level he was at before the accident. Yes, I would like to see him ready at the end of the month, but if he isn't that is alright. Heal up JV, we need you in the sport.
@jessemc314 сағат бұрын
Vingo and Rog could have beaten Kuss in vuelta 2023 , but they were not allowed to
@ahwinds925622 сағат бұрын
If Vingegaard is at 💯 % he’ll very likely to wins it for the 3rd time in the role.
@danielsiapin19 сағат бұрын
The interesting thing is he might not hit 100 percent till week 3. Can he make up any lost time?
@ahwinds925612 сағат бұрын
@@danielsiapin that will be a very tough task, considering the fact that there will be a lot of really strong oppositions.
@chrisconrad1234Күн бұрын
Well with a pulling out of the Olympics. Can't be a good sign either way. But still looking for the Battle of the Year in France!!
@danielsiapin19 сағат бұрын
Not sure why they would bring a mountain goat to the Olympics in the first place
@TulaneAveКүн бұрын
Jorgenson will be solid, Kuss won't be worth the cost of his hotel room. Visma will struggle to get on the podium.
@danielsiapin19 сағат бұрын
Kuss has been clutch. Why not now?
@savagepro9060Күн бұрын
If Vingegaard was still on a hospital bed groaning and moaning, writhing in pain, I would say he is OUT of Le Tour. But this is NOT the case. He is going to win his third consecutive TDF.
@ChrisAchesonКүн бұрын
The Di2 batteries in the seat post may be THE power source for the mechanical engine. The Di2 seat post battery seems innocently overlooked except that a rider might change for a new bike multiple times during a stage as these batteries will last only an hour max. (HIGHLY SUSPECT)
@connorparadis4804Күн бұрын
Prediction: Jonas skips the Tour to get a full recovery, Pog wins it somewhat handily and then decides to go for the Vuelta to get the Trifecta. Jonas goes to the Vuelta to block the Trifecta and it's a battle for the ages between Visma and UAE.
@hoebertrabeck162116 сағат бұрын
i am fine with that xD
@gerdkerman984914 сағат бұрын
The race to watch this year is gonna be Vuelta if Jonas gonna go.
@spacexander423910 сағат бұрын
Jonas would have to crash again to skip the tour
@scottsefton2948 сағат бұрын
Pogacar said last week that he will not ride the Vuelta no matter what happens in the TDF.
@connorparadis48048 сағат бұрын
@@scottsefton294 and lance armstrong said he was clean. What’s your point?
@fyahwerksКүн бұрын
I have said it from dec 23 2023. I have the Pog win loose or draw. I wrote on my Facebook page that the Pog will take the giro tour double. Injured or no injured jonas remco and Roglic. The mature Pog is a different rider. Mark these words
@daniluis7777Күн бұрын
Am going with Jonas. There’s no way Pogacar beating him at any grand tour.
@Pipe_JL19 сағат бұрын
Did you forget about the 2021 TDF?
@daniluis777718 сағат бұрын
@@Pipe_JL it his first Tour de France. Also did you forget the demolition he did to Pogacar the last two years so MUCH so Pogacar said Jonas is the best climber in the world. Take that.
@Mike-zx1kx14 сағат бұрын
@@Pipe_JL Where Jonas were in the race as a help rider, not the main man from the get go. First the captain went out, then the co captain and THEN, far into the race, FINALLY his team management could not hide his talent anymore and "allowed" him to, with a strongly decimated team, to go for the top. Seems YOU are the one that have forgotten TdF 2021!
@MrJava1593Күн бұрын
I'm not even going to watch this video....... It's not going to happend!
@Richard-me6eqКүн бұрын
I hope he waits until next year. One more fall and that would be the end of it. Please, wait until next year...you are still a young bucko.💪😎💪🚴♀️
@mimiumКүн бұрын
I would love to see great competition between Jonas, Tadej, Primož and Remco this year. This would be great for Tour and for fans. I am team Pogačar, but I respect Jonas and his abilities (the same for Primož and Remco). The truth is Tadej is fully well prepared for Tour after Giro and most importantly without injuries, so if anything unplanned won't happen, he will win this year.
@dilligaf281817 сағат бұрын
I dislike UAE
@gaetanmermetgrandfilleКүн бұрын
I believe the stage started from Saint Etienne which is 145 km away, including multiple climbs (Croix de Fer, Glandon,..), so you might need to reset the test to take this into account (and maybe bring a spare battery) 😅
@SlobodanSchumacherКүн бұрын
How good was Pogi before rookie year? At 18 Pogi followed Majka almost till the end of hard mountain climb called Rogla (15km long, 7,3% average gradient). That was Tour of Slovenia 2017 At 19 Pogi won Tour l'Avenir. At 20 - topic of your video
@tonyg3091Күн бұрын
He won’t be winning no Tour this year. Don’t burden the kid with unrealistic expectations
@krisbowditch82716 сағат бұрын
I agree miss it unit next year then smash up pog
@spacexander423910 сағат бұрын
Jonas is the favorite to win
@SlobodanSchumacherКүн бұрын
Jonas can win Tour 2024
@oliverleigh9854Күн бұрын
Your bias clouds your critical thinking. Pogi from a conditioning POV isn't the same rider from the past 2 years. He literally went and changed things up to beat Jonas. And yet you can't seem to see it.
@paigemichael-shetley5306Күн бұрын
You seem to be forgetting that we‘re talking about Jonas Vingegaard here. This guy is probably the biggest high altitude VO2 monster the sport has ever seen. He went to the Vuelta last year quite off top form and still absolutely lit up the high mountain stages, and would have won if not for idiosyncratic team tactics and eventually team direction to support Kuss.
@NorbertoFerrer-jz3xdКүн бұрын
Watch guys
@Mike-rm1lbКүн бұрын
You talk with authority. Yet you know shit.
@oliverleigh985419 сағат бұрын
@@paigemichael-shetley5306 Incompetent. Pogi is leaner compare to any time of his career so far. Just look at pictures and compare last year to this year. He has a new trainer. Plus he will be lighter at TDF than ever before. His program this year is build around tour racing. Every race he enter this year has similar stages to what we will see at TDF. Even Catalonia had mountain stages above 2000m in Altitude. Yet people don't see the preparation Pogi is doing to beat Jonas in his own environment where he excel. High mountains and ITT. Oh wait I forgot! In this clown world, people doesn't have the mental capacity to think critically.
@paigemichael-shetley530619 сағат бұрын
@@oliverleigh9854 First of all, your tone is disrespectful and unacceptable. I didn’t disrespect you, so don‘t you talk down to me and insult my cognitive capacity like this as if you are somehow above me and are an authority on such matters, you arrogant jerk. Yes, Pogi is doing new training to address weaknesses and will probably be improved. But you‘re being as dismissive of Jonas as a talent as you‘re accusing others of being toward Pogi. And that’s the problem I have with you. But at this point, I don‘t expect you to react in any other way than that of the arrogant jerk you were when you insulted my intelligence in the last response of yours.
@user-yz9ye6xp7qКүн бұрын
Team, Team, Team & knowing how to win the race as two time winner.
@gideonmthembu8693Күн бұрын
It could be nice but it could be a miracle from the low he has been.
@camillelivelyКүн бұрын
Sorry, second comment. Looking back to last year's Vuelta, I really do think Jonas was the strongest GC rider, but I think (then) Jumbo made the right choice in respecting the red jersey and making Sepp the chosen GC in the end. However, if they had just gone all in for themselves, I think Jonas would have won and taken a double last year. But we'll never know, will we!? Also, I know a lot of folks are gonna have strong reactions and opinions to this. Can we keep it polite in the replies, please? I love cycling discussion so much but YT has really become the most toxic comment section and people are horrible to each other. I'd rather connect with other fans in a fun way.
@camillelivelyКүн бұрын
I love your channel so much. <3 (My favorite comments to any video about Jonas is all the people that think they know better about his training and competition readiness than his own team managers and trainers. lol.)
@bram1290Күн бұрын
Unpopular opinion Ayuso can make it Top 3 tdf.
@GoldeelizaКүн бұрын
Why should that be an unpopular opinion?!
@bram129020 сағат бұрын
@@Goldeeliza because I think roglic , evenepoel, pocagar and vingegaard have a better change at riding top 3
@kkryspinКүн бұрын
Here we go again, the party of Viking helmets and Tuborg beer is spewing propaganda. I get it, if I were Jonas' fanboy and his podcasting supporter, I'd be spinning tales about how Jonas can outfly Pog too. Hey, even UAE's people are saying Jonas is still the favorite to win the Tour - and they ate it right out of their hands. Maybe next they'll claim he can ride a unicycle up Mont Ventoux while juggling water bottles. After all, who needs reality when you have a good story and a helmet with horns? Not a single whisper about Remco and Roglic gracing the Tour with their presence. Clearly, they must be too busy perfecting their pastry-eating techniques and conducting Tuborg taste tests to bother with mere cycling objectivity to report news. 🥳🤠🥸😎
@Mike-zx1kx14 сағат бұрын
We Danes appreciate irony and sarcasm especially when done over the top. Well done mate. I genuinely laughed out loud. 🤣🚴🍆
@kkryspin7 сағат бұрын
@@Mike-zx1kx Oh, fantastic! I'll make sure to include "mastering Danish sarcasm" in my life goals, right alongside "climbing Everest in flip-flops." Your appreciation means the world to me, mate. And hey, if it means I'll be ready to critique TheCyclingDane podcast with the utmost sophistication, while eating my smørrebrød, then count me in! Thanks for the inspiration, mate.
@Mike-zx1kx7 сағат бұрын
@@kkryspin 🤣
@joowstyКүн бұрын
one thing to add to the prospect of team and helper strength is that for Jumbo its always certain they work as a team, while for UAE im not too sure about that, i have already seen some interviews where helpers were pretty vague about their own ambitions in the tour. so maybe on paper they have a stronger team, but more ego's in the team too.
@camillelivelyКүн бұрын
I like this comment, I'm chewing on it a bit and considering your points. I agree about Visma really working as a team while UAE isn't as good at that. I think they've been better this season than previous, though. I often wonder if they studied Visma's team tactics in the off-season. I'm not sure I agree Visma has more egos on the team, especially with Sepp and Jorgenson currently slated to participate. LaPorte doesn't strike me as an egotistical guy, and definitely not Jonas. Wout? Yes lol, but he's had plenty of humbling moments this year so he may take it down a notch.
@randalh40920 сағат бұрын
Whenever Pogi is racing, his team is always united behind him. If Pogi comes with top form, non of his teammates will be close to his level and thus there would be no one even thinking of going for leadership.
@gnosis645216 сағат бұрын
Ayuso was already humbled by Jonas.. so his ego is no where to be found anymore and have to give in to the real leader, Tadej
@marfranc7265 сағат бұрын
@@camillelivelyhello, he meant more egos in UAE team, not TVL
@camillelively5 сағат бұрын
@@marfranc726 Yes, you're right. I realized my mistake after reading the other comments. Yikes.
@chrisbrodroy1183Күн бұрын
He might be riding and be able to hold onto the peloton or even hunt for a stage…but no way he will be able to compete for GC. Look around Wout. He was pretty basic at the Tour of Norway and he „only“ broke his ribs and some other bones. No punctured lung…
@lowliquidityКүн бұрын
Just hope it can keep it interesting because the Giro was not
@KILLTHEREDDITORКүн бұрын
People been saying the Giro was more interestinng than they expected because of the battle for 2nd. What kind of idiot thinks a 10 minute lead in GC makes for an exciting race?
@cleantgfydfКүн бұрын
Giro was amazing!
@jesperschultz2727Күн бұрын
@@cleantgfydf Great for you. Some of us found it amazingly boring and foreseeable. Hopefully the Tour wont be, like @lowliquidity is stressing.
@tobiasdencker853Күн бұрын
The giro was wank mate 😭👍@@cleantgfydf
@Mike-rm1lbКүн бұрын
It was awesome. Performance for the ages by the best rider of the century. You probably want Froome back.