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@Akrient 8 күн бұрын
Boy this didn’t age well
@oui2826 15 күн бұрын
Mm n frost bottom tier? Seems like a shit tier list
@mwa5704 Ай бұрын
Combat Rogues are S-tier later on. At the start, they were in the middle of the DPS rankings. Frost Death Knights are good in every version, the same for Fire Mages and, of course, Shadow Priests. At the start, it's Survival Hunters and Affliction Warlocks at the end it's Combat Rogue, Destruction Warlock.
@moxlolol Ай бұрын
the game is literally out and you're still wrong
@mwa5704 Ай бұрын
@@moxlolol Ok about what?
@gaminggotreal9291 Ай бұрын
Pls more wow videos!!!! Awesome
@Dreamersward Ай бұрын
Hope people aren’t taking this video serious. MM hunters are S tier and Frost is a solid A. You clearly aren’t good
@moxlolol Ай бұрын
... in PvE? That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard lmao. You can literally go play Cata right now, neither of those classes are worth a shit in PVE nice try junior
@Dreamersward Ай бұрын
@@moxlolol in my defense the shirt doesn’t say or show anything about PvE. As a PvP player I assumed it was PvP cause I haven’t watched anything PvE. My mistake.
@FranciscoRodriguez-yv3cq Ай бұрын
What would you say is the best and easiest to play in S tier?
@senfglas214 Ай бұрын
This tier list aged well.
@moxlolol Ай бұрын
I tried to tell people and they doubted me
@marcel.monashee7161 Ай бұрын
is he kidding ? :D Marksman is #1 DPS in T11 & 12 :D
@moxlolol Ай бұрын
I'm not kidding, as you can tell by the fact there's 0 MM hunters to be seen thus far and there won't be going forward. Surv is better in every way
@ilyapukhaev 2 ай бұрын
What is idea of Blizzard to create Frost DK or Fury Warrior and make them worst then other specs in PvP / PvE. Is it a joke or what?
@heisenfeis 2 ай бұрын
Back in the day we had 3 Paladins - Ret - Prot - Holy 1 Shaman - Resto 1 DK - Blood 1 Priest - Shadow 1 Warlock - Affliction 1 Mage - Fire 1 Hunter - Survival 1 Rogue - Assassination Managed to clear all content on HC What i always remember being the prot paladin was the Shadow priest always being top dps, and Hunter/Warlock second. The others did stuff too i just remember the Priest and Warlock always trying to out DPS each other. Good times.
@gregorydanisyt 2 ай бұрын
Both specs I wanted to play (fury and MM) are F, that suckssssss
@moxlolol 2 ай бұрын
Play what you want to play, MM and fury are viable they just don't bring any utility and are out DPS'd by other specs. But they're still fine, you can clear all content with any spec.
@Lazy_Smurf 2 ай бұрын
balance and cat I think will be similar single target. Edging out the balance with the lego staff. Also, without a bear, cat brings instant sunder. Allowing wars/rogues to spend more casts on damage. With a bear, cat can do this aswell AND dont have to keep up mangle. (Also STAMPEDE!) You definitely wouldnt stack them, but I think cats will surprise people in cata in both cleave and single. Solid tier list bro
@ace052330 2 ай бұрын
Destro has shadow and flame…Its literally in the destruction tree and one of the first few talents they take. Also enhance is A tier IMO but whateves. This is patch 4.3. Enhance has great sustained dps, solid burst with short CDs, tons of versatility, instant cast healing rains, totems, AP buff, blood lust, best interrupt, zero mana issues, nature resistance via healing stream totem which you can only get via hunters losing dps. They have great mobility, some of if not the highest aoe dps in the game, and great survivability due to instant cast heals, mail armor, and two defensive cooldowns that have a very short CD. Also to date of all Classic releases/expansions private servers have literally never been accurate. So basing it off that is next to useless. We’ve all seen this same shit with TBC and WotLK private servers. Every single tier list you look up people have different placements yet no one not one single person actually knows the outcome yet as it’s not yet released. I’ve seen these tier lists for every expansion since Classic launched for enhance always being placed mid tier. Yet I’ve been a realm rank 1-5 enhance shaman on Mankrik (largest pve server) and top 100 world depending on the phase since launch. I’m almost always top 3 dps if not often top. I had to stop playing a week after ICC launch as I got sick and had surgery and just got to start back couple weeks ago. Prior to that tho I was top 5 every phase with almost all 99s parses across the board with an average of 98.7. Nightstorm is my shamans name if curious. Mostly just play what you enjoy regardless of this list or any other as that’s what you will perform the best on. The balance is good enough that if you put the time and effort into your class you will out perform the vast majority regardless of what you are playing. Also 10m raiding is huge in Cata which leaves a lot less room for buffs and strong individual CDs where hybrid classes can really shine and help fulfill a lot of what’s needed.
@moxlolol 2 ай бұрын
I prefaced this video by saying I took utility and burst damage into consideration, and I also said that there's plenty of room for all of these specs to go up or down a tier. You wrote out a thesis about enhancement shamans being in A tier when I put them in B, I don't know why you think I put them in F tier or something. They're incredibly strong and I could 100% see them in A tier throughout cataclysm. I think people take these placements a bit too seriously
@codydiffinity3640 2 ай бұрын
Tell my left ear make my right one jealous
@politikz8128 2 ай бұрын
When I look up tier lists or guides for WoW I always pick the channel with the lowest sub count. All the other big grifter WoW channels have no idea what they’re talking about and spend like 2 minutes of their 10 minute video on their Underwear sponsor
@Furrystorys 2 ай бұрын
Mm was good if you knew how to play it so you're rank is wrong
@bradystepppyson 2 ай бұрын
Ret gang
@quidkey69 2 ай бұрын
Sub is simming 31k dps. My mans did no homework.
@Kaneki_Live 2 ай бұрын
isnt sub rogue S-Tier for pvp AND pve?
@tylergladys6626 2 ай бұрын
Cataclysm ruined wow why bother
@noonetoknow6664 2 ай бұрын
You're only saying that because other people have told you
@tylergladys6626 Ай бұрын
@@noonetoknow6664I started playing in vanilla stop in cataclysm tried warlords of dragon and gave up on it
@brandonkruse6412 2 ай бұрын
I actually don’t understand why content creators seem to think that MM Hunter is F-tier. It’s always the same buzz-words. As someone who cleared HC Sinestra on MM I can fully put to rest the myths about MM being unplayable. The truth is that Survival a noticeably better for fights that require AoE burst to kill adds. But the difference isn’t as big as most think. MM’s single target on most boss fights is on par with Survival if not at times stronger.
@noahmon1 2 ай бұрын
Ret should be S-tier IMO
@cogglews 2 ай бұрын
Frost mage seems great for leveling
@nathana5718 2 ай бұрын
This is sorta perfect in a weird way. You talk slightly slower than I would, which makes for a perfectly articulate 2x speed playthru. Saved me huge time ty.
@Matt-oq1pz 2 ай бұрын
Dudes that play cata classic get pegged in missionary
@zugy. 2 ай бұрын
People who don't like it when others play a video game that they like, get dicked down behind a tgi Fridays on a Tuesday at 3pm.
@JJ6282-h8y 2 ай бұрын
Yet here you are, watching cata content
@dracus2000 2 ай бұрын
data please
@CodyRawluk 2 ай бұрын
shadow priest is s tier
@xbc7685 2 ай бұрын
Must be a pve list
@ElijahSanDiego 2 ай бұрын
ELE is 10000% S.. I dont know what this tierlist is hahaha
@CyberMonkey03 2 ай бұрын
The best tier list I’ve seen so far, not just the placing but the information and the delivery. Way better than the other wow content creators smh.
@kodeyne 2 ай бұрын
Crazy thing is that frost mages are actually solid prebis
@vc3928 2 ай бұрын
Best class tier video I've seen so far.
@mehdizazoua7122 2 ай бұрын
Frost is top tier in pvp
@tonyharrington7970 2 ай бұрын
Sub rogue in Dragon Soul 1000% becomes S tier. It without a doubt pads the meters
@moxlolol 2 ай бұрын
90% of people watching this video aren't going to raid dragon soul, the tier list is for every phase, and sub is only relevant for 2-3 fights in dragon soul and that's mostly with legendary daggers which the majority of rogues won't get. Niche situations don't skyrocket a spec as an overall good choice
@jdawgnickleback1713 2 ай бұрын
Is fire good plus as orc mage
@xxiv168 Ай бұрын
Fire mage is amazing in cata pvp
@shani9andri11 2 ай бұрын
Trash
@Perry2186 2 ай бұрын
How is MM bad in Cata it was the top spec for Cata the first go around i know cuz i was SV and was mocked .. MM will be closer to SV than you think
@DannyD1199 2 ай бұрын
That's how I remembered it. MM was a big DPS hose.
@Perry2186 2 ай бұрын
@DannyD1199 yeah it more came down to what spec you ither liked or just played better as
@moxlolol 2 ай бұрын
Because after 15 years people got smarter, and also we're going to be on patch 4.3. Over a decade of private server data is much more reliable than anecdotal memories of playing 15 years ago on 720p monitors and integrated graphics
@Perry2186 2 ай бұрын
@@moxlolol anecdotal? My info came from the Hunters Union from Frostheim himself
@brandonkruse6412 2 ай бұрын
@@Perry2186 MM was overall worse than Survival however it’s not anywhere close to unplayable like creators seem to be saying. Some of the top guilds back in original Firelands stacked MM hunters due to their high mobility and interaction with T12 set bonus. (Private servers for 4.3 are notoriously jank and unreliable due to small community)
@blinky042002 2 ай бұрын
Cat will be Tier S
@ammarshabbir5458 2 ай бұрын
Your assessment of rogue is completely wrong. Anyway I played Cata back in the day with legendary daggers and when Dragon soul hits - Sub and Combat are both the highest performing dps specs in that tier. Minus sometimes being beaten by a fire mage or Survival hunter.
@rastiqp 2 ай бұрын
They are viable at last patch, with legendary staff+pve trinket ..they 1shoting
@chesterdespic98 2 ай бұрын
My left ear enjoyed this spoiler
@slim3238 2 ай бұрын
gief healer and tank tier list
@soulbound5732 3 ай бұрын
best part of this vid is that u didnt mention frost spec <3 savage on so many lvls and i love it great video jokes aside
@thekajunpredator 3 ай бұрын
Enhance was cracked. I played it the entire expansion and left everyone in the dust every raid fight. It wasn't even close. 🤙🏽🤙🏽
@meteor23meteorit39 2 ай бұрын
Hello man, do you have a discord? I would like to talk with skilled enha shaman player, i plán to play it in cata now and i need a bit of advice
@neel3226 3 ай бұрын
😳 Promo-SM
@cadirgemont5900 3 ай бұрын
These tier lists are cringe and toxic to the community... well done on ruining the experience for thousands of players.
@moxlolol 3 ай бұрын
The irony of this is hilarious
@cadirgemont5900 3 ай бұрын
@moxlolol irony ? Better reconsider the word choice there.. you're coming up with some bullshit list that doesn't take into account the skill of the player. Just like these stupid mid content lists did for rogue players in season 2 of SOD.. you're a mid at best creator bringing a toxic element to the community because a tier list is all you have because you lack any interesting content on the game .. so in short you're the equivalent of grey quest item rewards of "content" creator's 😂😂😂
@krzysztofwojcik6440 3 ай бұрын
Good video, CATA HYPE!🎉
@moxlolol 3 ай бұрын
🎉
@treijhen 3 ай бұрын
You are hardcore sleeping on combat lol they dominate Not only the other rogue specs with one exception, they compete with fire mages Espcially legendaries vs legendaries, the only rogue spec that beats combat is sub rogue in speed run guilds, because it has higher short term dmg but meh long term dmg. Assassination isn’t changed a lot by things in cata which is why it falls off even with legendaries, the combat rogue received so many way of life changes that made it function so much better to the point where rupture although more dps if maintained , only does 2% more dmg than just useing eviscerate the extra swings proced by combats mastery which you don’t. Need a ton of mastery to be effective with it generates a ton more energy along with refreshing adrenaline rush and killing spree faster, where as assassination is just envenom spam and has no real special cooldowns to burst dmg.
@ZadenWoW 2 ай бұрын
Bro assass is agreed by everyone to be better than combat and more widely accessible. Only on niche 2 mob cleave is combat better
@treijhen 2 ай бұрын
@@ZadenWoW we shall see, I lived through that expansion in a top 100 guild we had 4 rogues 2 assass 2 combat, they assass start out competitive with combat, then lose ground in firelands and are completely shit on in dragon soul , all the meters back then showed this, there isn’t much change to assassination as compared to the massive changes of combat, because of how strong it was in wotlk, and other classes got larger glow ups aswell which is why in. 25m raid assassin is towards 7-10th on the meters middle of the road as the expansion progresses, but we shall see what happens bub :)
@ZadenWoW 2 ай бұрын
@@treijhen top 100 guild back then will be a green parsing guild now that anecdotal evidence means nothing.
@treijhen 2 ай бұрын
@@ZadenWoW okay bub keep telling yourself that lol
@whoissterling 2 ай бұрын
@@ZadenWoWbro what? So glad back then is 1500 now? No, also what he’s saying is valid, you’ve been brainwashed by all these content creators and Icy fucking veins to believe that. Not saying combat is better, but until dragon soul, assassination won’t shine, sub is better for most heroics, and most raids for a while as the rogue is really there for its utility. Any rogue that played back then knows this.
@JustCaow 3 ай бұрын
This just want me to go my Sub rogue or make a Frost mage even more :D
@blalink6458 3 ай бұрын
i remember blood dk and disc priest was op af in arena