Everything I've said is 100% clinically and scientifically accurate. What is it you feel I've gotten wrong?

@@sandybeach1071 I treat covert narcissists. You're probably confusing them with covert abusers or psychopaths. Most people grossly misuse psychological terms.

That's an opinion and one that's shared by many (mostly outside the field of psychology). It's not supported by research.

@@CraigMalkin jeez..actually the concept of "healthy narcissism" is still accepted only by few ones in clinical psychology and psychoanalyst circles...what do you mean supported by research? :D i think its enough to have a brain and see oxymoron in something called "healthy narcissism" ,,,and also, people who use "healthy narcissism" instead of words like self esteem,self awereness etc. are obviously nothing but apologetics for narcissism because they are immature narcs too

​@@MM-wv7ys False. Contrary to your unfounded claim, the concept is widely accepted in my field and always has been. Here's a large scale study including healthy (agentic) narcissism that was just published. www.researchgate.net/publication/379309116_Development_of_Narcissism_Across_the_Life_Span_A_Meta-Analytic_Review_of_Longitudinal_Studies Healthy narcissism isn't self-esteem or self-awareness or self-love or self-confidence. It's moderate self-enhance enhancement. Low narcissism scores are correlated with pathology (average scores aren't); thats' why we need to include the concept of healthy narcissism in theory and measurement. One of the most powerful instruments we have for measuring narcissism, the NARQ, includes the construct of healthy narcissism. psycnet.apa.org/doiLanding?doi=10.1037%2Ft27810-000 In addition to the NARQ I cite a wealth of current research. What's so threatening about accepting that there can pathological and non pathological expressions of self-enhancement? It's interesting how quickly you go to insults. ("i think its enough to have a brain and see oxymoron in something called "healthy narcissism" ; "people who use "healthy narcissism" instead of words like self esteem,self awereness etc. are obviously nothing but apologetics for narcissism because they are immature narcs too" "The concept of "healthy narcissism" is still accepted only by few ones in clinical psychology and psychoanalyst circles" What is this statement even based on?

@@CraigMalkin that statement is based on reality and my surroundings, maybe in America situation is a lil bit different. Sorry, but that is not an insult, if we take the definition of narcissism ,healthy narcissism contradicts it, so yea, there is no such thing...just like there is no "healthy paranoia", "healthy sociopathy", "healthy addiction", etc. Self enchancement is a trademark of narcissism so by definition is bad and not healthy,its like saying good evil, just mumble overall...you cannot "measure" narcissism or anything else, all of those tests and instruments (like mmpi are outdated and just non valuable in any way

​@@MM-wv7ys I wasn't referring to your statement that there's no such thing when I asked what it's based on. I was referring your claim: "Again, what is this statement even based on? I also didn't find that insulting. I found your insults insulting. Anyone can see your statements here are objectively and needlessly insulting: "i think its enoughnd see oxymoron in something called "healthy narcissism" ; "" instead of words like self esteem,self awereness etc. are obviously nothing but apologetics for narcissism because theyI suppose it's possible you're not aware of how you come across. Your claim is simply this: there's no such thing as healthy narcissism because you define narcissism as purely pathological (psychology doesn't, apart from a few dissenters) and then claim it can't be healthy, which is tautological. Current consensus in the field is that there are 3 related factors in narcissism: agentic (healthy); neurotic (vulnerable); and antagonistic. This is also accepted by the leading narcissism experts in the world.

No

The core of narcissism is self-enhancement.. As It becomes more rigid and intense, iIt brings empathy impairments, exploitation, and entitlement. Moderate narcissism isn't characterized by low empathy. Narcissism and pathological narcissism are separate but related phenomena.

Basically, I feel like if I talk about myself and my success, I’m taking the humility out of my heart, and I don’t like that. Humility is peace and love and doesn’t need to prove anything or get anyones approval.

Some of this uninvited lecture on narcissism is somewhat accurate. Some corrections follow: Antagonistic narcissism isn't a recognized trait or category because all extreme narcissism is antagonistic Malignant narcissism isn't technically narcissism at all because it's extreme elevation on all the dark tetrad traits. Communal narcissists aren't any more likely to become morally outraged than any other narcissism type.Nor are they more prone to seeing things as unfair. Adaptive narcissism is the heart of all narcissism: self- enhancement. It's healthy narcissism precisely because it's moderate. It's not a distinct type either. I'm the least pathologizing expert on narcissism on here. I'm not sure why you're suggesting otherwise.