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@Sapper-zq2sr
@Sapper-zq2sr 2 күн бұрын
Mc feer son
@nicholasfield6127
@nicholasfield6127 4 күн бұрын
Ok, what was worse than MacPherson? I remember when they were all the rage
@Watching_youtube_in_the_dark
@Watching_youtube_in_the_dark 5 күн бұрын
Mac fear son
@sydrider6023
@sydrider6023 6 күн бұрын
I do not thing the struts version provide space saving. The shock tower required is taking engine bay space reducing the available width and creating serious engine access issues.
@user-gf7tu9fq2c
@user-gf7tu9fq2c 6 күн бұрын
В субару никогда не было двухрычажки, по прежнему это это автомобили с одной из лучшей управляемостью и комфортом, ах да, ещё и надёжностью.
@richardm5540
@richardm5540 7 күн бұрын
Can you buy a ECM already programmed from the factory?
@ravim111
@ravim111 7 күн бұрын
My 5th generation Civic had double wishbone suspension. The combination of ride and handling was sublime.
@PLD0VR
@PLD0VR 8 күн бұрын
with struts the wheels are interconnected? um no.. its not a straight axle lol, they are independent of each other.
@bluegizmo1983
@bluegizmo1983 8 күн бұрын
Stop using an AI voice for your video!! I can't stand AI voiced videos. Down voted!
@rob5944
@rob5944 9 күн бұрын
Doesn't mention multi-link at all then. Mind you unless something is seriously wrong most cars feel the same to me.
@eddymison3527
@eddymison3527 9 күн бұрын
I like the one that comes with thw car I can afford.
@robertmatetich2898
@robertmatetich2898 10 күн бұрын
When McP struts first came into consumer cars, ca. 1978 (?), I found that they had to be stiffer because their dynamic range was smaller. In other words, if you allowed a McP to travel as far as a dbl wishbone, you loose alignment at the outer ranges of the travel. Consequently, stiffness was added to prevent the system from "bottoming out", thus jarring the car and its inhabitants to pieces. Subsequently, younger buyers were propagandized into buying the cheaper, stiffer suspensions. The older dbl wishbone was a softer, smoother ride which has its place in the market, particularly with today's decaying roads.
@BlackStarG4
@BlackStarG4 10 күн бұрын
The existence of a “MacPherson” suspension suggests the existence of a “PCPherson” suspension.
@gogopedia
@gogopedia 10 күн бұрын
Good of both
@QuietStormX
@QuietStormX 10 күн бұрын
DWB! Like in the GT3 with a manual ;-D
@somerandoonline5852
@somerandoonline5852 11 күн бұрын
Well this video is a waste of time
@herseem
@herseem 11 күн бұрын
He's wrong about the tendency to roll. That's entirely down to the spring strength of each type of suspension. MacPherson strut are no more likely to roll on a bend than double-wishbone. But I prefer double wishbone.
@sergey9627
@sergey9627 11 күн бұрын
I have Audi A4 b8 2.0Q (double wishbone) and BMW 330ix F30 (McPherson) - BMW has much more handling in full stock suspension. Audi has sports Bilstein B6 shock absorbers but it still far from BMW handling due to wrong wiight distribution.
@vinzanity68
@vinzanity68 11 күн бұрын
I found the difference handling-wise by experience. I got my first cars about 20 yrs ago, and one was McPherson (Toyota Vios/Vitz) and the other was double-wishbone(Mitsubishi Galant), but I didnt know that at that time. The difference in handling on twisty roads was night and day. I owned the Toyota first, so I was used to being careful when driving on twisty roads because the back would sway out. When I got the Galant several months later, and drove on the same twisty road, I was amazed that I could go faster without any body roll. Years later I realized it was the Galant's suspension that caused the big difference in handling. Also years later, I found out the Miata has double wishbone and coupled with the perfect weight distribution, no wonder many enthusiasts swear by it.
@user-kd4pg8hu7t
@user-kd4pg8hu7t 8 күн бұрын
Still rolling my Galant in 2024 :)
@Bristecom
@Bristecom 7 күн бұрын
I had a 99 Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX that used the same suspension as the Galant, and yeah, it was the perfect balance of handling stability and comfort. Technically it was considered a multi-link front and rear (not a traditional double-wishbone). McPherson struts have improved since then though. I have a Toyota GR86 for example that handles very well with a front strut design, but I can't help but to wonder how it would feel with a double wishbone/multi-link front suspension. Mitsubishi was the best in the 90's!
@ramadhanisme7
@ramadhanisme7 5 күн бұрын
No, the big difference is your vios is using torsion beam while your galant using independent suspension that makes it night and day Macpherson itself is pretty good hence why porsche is using it for their 911
@groottree3923
@groottree3923 13 күн бұрын
Многорычажка от ауди топ.
@fourmula4812
@fourmula4812 14 күн бұрын
kyosho mini-z ma-010 suspension
@bests1989
@bests1989 14 күн бұрын
So many incorrect statements in this video. Change job, man...
@thatscottishengineerguy9606
@thatscottishengineerguy9606 14 күн бұрын
Left this video the moment I heard "Macreson".
@I_feel_just_like_a_rockstar
@I_feel_just_like_a_rockstar 15 күн бұрын
"Super McPherson" is very good. (Renault Sport "double axis front suspension" and Ford "RevoKnuckle") Since 2004 with Renault Mégane II RS.
@DanielDC02
@DanielDC02 15 күн бұрын
McPherson Easy AND unexpensive? Un which universe?
@ThePlombyras
@ThePlombyras 15 күн бұрын
why nothing about electro hydraulic? efficient and responsive...
@viveksinha9221
@viveksinha9221 16 күн бұрын
Yeah, it was a very informative and technically sound presentation. Full compliments to the creative team.
@jessebb193
@jessebb193 16 күн бұрын
Turns out when i lowered my 4th prelude the rear wheels actually cambered AND toed in, due to the toe arm design. Didnt know the rear toed in while cornering pretty genius design
@roxyqueen5076
@roxyqueen5076 17 күн бұрын
Does this work on rubber tires?
@dwiranu5394
@dwiranu5394 17 күн бұрын
2:37 That's a double wishbone!
@warrenlancaster286
@warrenlancaster286 17 күн бұрын
Mac fur son strut
@TonySopeano46
@TonySopeano46 17 күн бұрын
MCDONALDS RICERLET.
@rohansugrim7757
@rohansugrim7757 17 күн бұрын
I have a video of a mc pherson completely ripping out
@natemorgan4665
@natemorgan4665 20 күн бұрын
Upper and lower control arm, is that double wishbone setting?
@praveenhegde8107
@praveenhegde8107 12 күн бұрын
Yep
@ericpogi5654
@ericpogi5654 22 күн бұрын
MacPhersons strut easy DIY, easy maintenance & cheaper. Good for bad road.
@natipacdraude
@natipacdraude 23 күн бұрын
for the driving pleasure and fun, I'll choose the double wishbone! :)
@I_feel_just_like_a_rockstar
@I_feel_just_like_a_rockstar 15 күн бұрын
"Super McPherson" is very good. (Renault Sport "double axis front suspension" and Ford "RevoKnuckle") Since 2004 with Renault Mégane II RS.
@michaelbautista5803
@michaelbautista5803 27 күн бұрын
1989-2000 Civics are Double Wishbone 1987-2000 Corollas are Mcpherson
@gregparrott
@gregparrott 27 күн бұрын
ERROR The images shown at the beginning of the section on MacPherson struts (2:17) and in the summary 4:26) are NOT a MachPherson strut It too is a double A-arm suspension, only it is showing the rear suspension (no steering linkage and orientation resembling semi trailing arm) instead of the front suspension. You'll note that unlike a MacPherson strut, the coil spring and shock absorber are NOT locating members, but is separated from the wheel hub/spindle
@penalozaur
@penalozaur 28 күн бұрын
There are reasonable mcPherson versions: the one from E90 BMW with 2 lower arms and the one from Megane 2 RS with double axis.
@davidnovakovich5583
@davidnovakovich5583 28 күн бұрын
My F250 has leafs front and back, with beefy sway bars, and it corners great. But bumps and washboard? Not so good.Get a good kidney belt.
@amsterob
@amsterob 28 күн бұрын
mak FEAR son.
@ND4ZPD1
@ND4ZPD1 29 күн бұрын
OMG, I could not listen to this! You are talking about automotive suspension designs, pros and cons, etc., but you are too ignorant to figure out how to pronounce "MacPherson" correctly?! Jesus, WTF? Is it that difficult to Google it? Thumbs down just for your stupidity!
@perikholt3395
@perikholt3395 Ай бұрын
Good job getting a coked-up Morgan Freeman to do the voiceover!
@t8polestarcyan22
@t8polestarcyan22 Ай бұрын
Good to know. What about Torsion beam / Twist beam suspension which are common for cheap, budget cars?
@I_feel_just_like_a_rockstar
@I_feel_just_like_a_rockstar 15 күн бұрын
Torsion beam can be very good. (Renault Mégane RS (II, III, IV), Clio RS (II, III, IV), Peugeot 308 II GTi, Honda Civic Type R FK2, Renault Twingo RS, Suzuki Swift Sport...) The anti-roll barr is integrated, low maintenance compared to multi-link... The standard Peugeot 308 II handles better with its torsion beam than a VW Golf VII equipped with a multi-link....
@Ichbinderhammer1
@Ichbinderhammer1 Ай бұрын
i like suspension
@serdargegin4506
@serdargegin4506 Ай бұрын
what kinda suspension system were used in 60s 70s or 80s American comfortable cars?
@bernarddavis1050
@bernarddavis1050 29 күн бұрын
Semi-Elliptic cart springs lol
@Where_we_go
@Where_we_go Ай бұрын
MacPherson strut cons: all of them Double wishbone cons: none.
@thefreelance1990
@thefreelance1990 Ай бұрын
In my own opinion, Double Wishbone is for added regidity than McPherson strut.
@Mr.Takahash1
@Mr.Takahash1 Ай бұрын
It all comes down to personal preferences.
@TheRVSN
@TheRVSN Ай бұрын
For a slow and small city car Macpherson is enough. As reliability, stability and security requirements grow, Wishbone is preferred.
@I_feel_just_like_a_rockstar
@I_feel_just_like_a_rockstar 15 күн бұрын
"Super McPherson" is very good. (Renault Sport "double axis front suspension" and Ford "RevoKnuckle") Since 2004 with Renault Mégane II RS.
@neutronalchemist3241
@neutronalchemist3241 9 күн бұрын
Some of the best handling sportscar ever had four MacPherson struts, IE the Lancia Delta, X1/9, Porsche Boxster... As for reliability and security, in a Macpherson struts there are less things that can wear and break, and the limited lateral space occupied makes for more impact-resistant car structures.