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@gRosh08 7 күн бұрын
First.
@alexkamer8331 26 күн бұрын
Not sure Dean Koontz created these ideas...but sure.
@gRosh08 Ай бұрын
1st
@ComicPower Ай бұрын
I did the snowflake method and didnt know i was doing it because i never heard of the theory until i watched this video. 😂
@xenaryst Ай бұрын
Don't you find all these pretty the same ?
@dontplayformenero Ай бұрын
That's excellent! Love the imagery too. The willy wonka cracked me up.
@coolcaleb33YT 2 ай бұрын
Did I manitfest this I just told an Ai about a Political body swap play
@writing-chops 2 ай бұрын
That's hilarious. I think we aughta chalk this up to what scholars would call a 'coinkydink' 😅 I hope you enjoy our take 🙌
@rachelthompson9324 2 ай бұрын
All opinions are biased otherwise they would not be opinions.
@libbyhyett6625 Ай бұрын
"Unbiased opinion" is definitely probably an oxymoron
@user-wh4lx9by2o 3 ай бұрын
"Hyper bowl?!" As in "Super Bowl?" Or "Toilet Bowl?" Sorry, my friend, but when you mispronounced "the most important literary device...," you lost all credibility. If you had truly mastered the terms that you presume to teach, instead of merely cribbing from the work of others, you would know the correct pronunciation. And don't bother deflecting with a glib response. Instead, be man enough to admit that you're wrong and apologize. That's the intellectually honest thing to do.
@writing-chops 3 ай бұрын
This criticism sounds deliberately and quite extravagantly exaggerated... What a minute! 🤔 I see what you are doing! 💡 Well played user-wh4lx9by20 👏
@user-wh4lx9by2o 2 ай бұрын
@@writing-chops -I mocked your errant pronunciation. (Fact, not exaggeration) -I quoted your own words regarding "the most important literary device...." (Fact, not exaggeration) -I opined that making such a glaring mistake undermines your credibility as a competent teacher. (Fact, not exaggeration) -I mentioned that you’re cribbing the work of others. Unless you wish to claim that you created the 40 terms you shared, a claim that would actually be extravagantly exaggerated, you did indeed appropriate the work of others…WITHOUT, I might add, taking the effort to research the correct pronunciation, which is just lazy. (Fact, not exaggeration) (FYI: All you had to do, by the way, is Google the word “hyperbole,” and the definition appears along with an option to hear the word spoken aloud. In addition, there’s a button that reads: “Learn to pronounce.” That link allows you to slow down the audio for remedial instruction. Easy-peasy.) -Finally, I predicted that you would respond with a glib remark rather than do the intellectually honest thing: admit that you're wrong and apologize. (Fact, not exaggeration) How did I know you would deflect? Hint: Ponder the words “intellectually honest.” We all make mistakes. But not all of us are secure enough to own up to our mistakes. All you had to write was this: “You’re right. I stand corrected. Promise to do better. Thanks for watching.”
@futurestoryteller 3 ай бұрын
It's very funny, having mispronunciation in a video about literacy.
@writing-chops 3 ай бұрын
Isn't it ironic? Don't you think? A little too ironic And yeah, I really do think 😜
@CozyWrites 3 ай бұрын
Slow down… it was hard to keep up. The slides are a wonderful idea, but even they flew off the screen too fast.
@DukhKshivaKbachtaNaiSukhDhokaH 3 ай бұрын
Tollme about character building
@writing-chops 3 ай бұрын
Sure thing. We will have something specific to character development quite soon. But in the meantime, this clip might help: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/kMx2q89zrJyde5s.htmlsi=QXzEegNs635TskdW
@dontplayformenero 3 ай бұрын
Excellent!
@writing-chops 3 ай бұрын
Why, thank you very much! 🙌
@CarmenPerez-kz6rw 3 ай бұрын
I can never control my characters which is more of a problem for me.
@writing-chops 3 ай бұрын
Sometimes we give our characters too many motivations. Too many wants and needs. If you can boil their desire down to one actionable objective, then this could help frame them in each scene (and then build from there!). Hope that helps!
@CarmenPerez-kz6rw 3 ай бұрын
@@writing-chops Makes sense. Thank you.
@JohnDudleyAuthor-xo4ip 3 ай бұрын
Characters taking on a life of their own is a very good indicator. I'd read about it happening, but what an amazing experience when it actually happened to me while I was writing recently, it was fantastic!
@writing-chops 3 ай бұрын
It's the best, right!? When you are genuinely surprised that the character didn't go the way you 'planned.' Great work!
@CarmenPerez-kz6rw 3 ай бұрын
@@writing-chops Yes! It’s a fantastic and unpredictable adventure you never want to end!
@JohnDudleyAuthor-xo4ip 3 ай бұрын
@@writing-chops Thanks!
@oldguyinstanton 3 ай бұрын
Great advice!
@writing-chops 3 ай бұрын
Thank you! Thrilled that you enjoyed it 🤙
@dontplayformenero 3 ай бұрын
Brilliant, love it!
@writing-chops 3 ай бұрын
Thank you! 💛
@johnparnham5945 3 ай бұрын
This is a comprehensive and digestible description of story structure. Seldom have I seen so much in one video. It's everything you need to get to know that subject. Well done.
@writing-chops 3 ай бұрын
Thank you so much! Thrilled to hear that you enjoyed it. And yes, that was our mission: To create a clean, clear and simple guide to story structure. Both showing what they have in common, while also detailing the differences 🙌
@cdowling23 4 ай бұрын
Woo hoo!!
@writing-chops 4 ай бұрын
Groovy!
@AdonisMediaProductions 4 ай бұрын
this was a super helpful video!
@writing-chops 4 ай бұрын
You're very welcome! Let us know if there are any other topics you'd like us to cover 🙌
@AdonisMediaProductions 4 ай бұрын
Thanks, I will keep that in mind, though lately I have been racking my brain on story structure, hah@@writing-chops
@jeffmcmahon3278 4 ай бұрын
The term' The exception proves the rule' actually means that the exception will test the rule to see if the rule holds true.
@writing-chops 4 ай бұрын
"There is an exception to every rule. This is a rule and there is no exception to this rule. Which proves that there is an exception to every rule." 😜
@futurestoryteller 3 ай бұрын
"The exception that proves the rule," is always a rare example that succeeds by contradicting said rule, which when otherwise disregarded seems destined for "certain" failure. It is definitely a paradox of its own.
@jameswarren2150 4 ай бұрын
I use the Hero's Journey, the time tested story structure. It has worked for me.
@writing-chops 4 ай бұрын
Fantastic! Tried, tested and weather-resistant! It's fun to subvert and experiment with all types of storytelling. But it is hard to fault the pure satisfaction that this model brings to a narrative. Thanks for watching.
@hayleylewis1458 4 ай бұрын
starts 3:10
@writing-chops 4 ай бұрын
But what about the context❓ Don't do want the context❣️ 😅
@Lopfff 4 ай бұрын
Video begins at 3:30
@writing-chops 4 ай бұрын
Let's negotiate... How about 1:44❓ 'What all stories have in common' is a pretty sweet segment to kick off the 10, right? 😜
@raydarable 4 ай бұрын
A lot of these feel like the same storyline described differently.
@writing-chops 4 ай бұрын
Yep. That's a central thrust through much of story structure guidance. The Writer's Journey is based on the Hero's Journey. The Story Circle is based on the Writer's Journey. And then there is certain beats that exist across most narrative frameworks. There are subtle differences. But the general principal is to understand the commonalities. From here, you can decide to adopt them, subvert them or ignore them.
@raydarable 4 ай бұрын
@@writing-chops Very insightful, thanks!
@InformantNet 4 ай бұрын
Do you realize that these "rules" are literally based on films of the past? That's like an architect designing a building based on other buildings instead of creating his/her own design. This is why modern movies suck - the audience anticipates all of these events. You should never use Harmon's Story Structure.
@writing-chops 4 ай бұрын
😅 Well, the title of the Chop does imply that these were used in films of the past. And I don't believe we call them "rules" at any point. We even highlight that you don't necessarily have to obey them, but you should still have knowledge of them: "So even if you don’t want to embrace it, you damn sure better understand it." So let's say you have a story that doesn't have a conventional structure. A producer or a decision-maker may ask why you decided to leave out the inciting incident or why you skipped the first act. It would be considered best practice to have an answer for this. Hope that helps.
@dalegreene5615 4 ай бұрын
Hyperbole is pronounced high-pur-buh-lee
@writing-chops 4 ай бұрын
I least I landed 'Synecdoche' though! 😜
@dalegreene5615 4 ай бұрын
@@writing-chops Synecdoche is a touch one. I can't remember who said it but someone said they never made fun of anyone who mispronounced a word because they probably learned it by reading. I just thought you should know for future.
@user-zt6pq5kb9z 5 ай бұрын
Fabulous video full of fascinating facts and practical advice 👍 thank you for this!
@writing-chops 4 ай бұрын
Thank you so much. Delighted that you enjoyed it!
@tomlewis4748 5 ай бұрын
Is it at all possible that you could stop shaking your hands at the camera? News flash-this does not add credibility. In fact, it significantly undermines it. It also could not be more annoying. Try tying your hands behind your back and then see if you can still talk. I'd imagine the odds are 'not'. If 'not', try moving the camera twice as far away and zooming in. A bit of telephoto compression might keep your fists from looking larger than your head. I assume they aren't, but the camera being this close makes it appear as if they are. Another rookie mistake is the exposure and the lighting. Your face and hands look like they're on fire.
@writing-chops 5 ай бұрын
😅 Thanks for the tips. I hope you enjoyed the substance of the content, anyway 🕺
@takecareofyourshoess 5 ай бұрын
Disagree with your premise that you MUST follow an established story structure. The BEST story structures, imo, begin with your own structure, take bits and pieces from others, and after that integrate structural advice that makes sense from others.
@writing-chops 5 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for watching. The premise isn't actually that you HAVE to follow any certain structure (I even included Dean Koontz concept that is quite structureless). I actually agree that you should follow your own structure. As you start developing your story, a framework will emerge. That being said, it is important to understand the types of popular story structures out there. These are concepts that decision-makers look for. These are patterns that audiences understand. For instance, I recently wrote a script where I pretty much chopped the first act off and started at what could be considered the beginning of the second act. It made sense for the story to do so. But I understand that I must be cautious not to lose or confuse my audience. And also, there was important story details that I have to provide throughout the rest of the narrative, now that I had pretty much sacrificed my set-up. But yeah, the idea is that before you can forego the established frameworks, you should first have knowledge of them and why they matter.
@gRosh08 5 ай бұрын
1st
@rusticrick999 5 ай бұрын
What is #11?
@writing-chops 5 ай бұрын
You will find out in part 2! 😅 Until then, check out the Tragic Plot Embryo ⭐️
@BKNeifert 5 ай бұрын
I'm of the mindset, that the great writers wrote about ideas. Suspense isn't really that important. What the book means, now that is. You take a book like The Great Gatsby, there's none of this. It works, because every line is poetic and nuanced, and is packed with subtext---ugh, I hate that word when it's used, because it usually implies hiding information from the audience and making them guess at a character's thoughts and motivations, which I mean here Subtext in its classical denotation, of underlying meaning that drives the narrative forward. Also being short helps. Unless you're writing an epic, where every line is meant to convey some underlying point about humanity and its existence. That's usually how you draw a long novel forward, and probably why I don't like That Hideous Strength because it deals too much with humdrum and not enough with the bigger picture of life. Lewis would get far better at making meaty ideas later on in life. But, he wasn't a good poet, which made an impact on his earlier work because a good novel is like poetry, in that every line is packed with nuance and meaning. That's the trick to writing good poetry, is packing as much punch into every line--in the way of meaning--that you can. But also deliberately, as if you write like Wordsworth, where 90% of it is lost on the audience until they've read it about a dozen times, that's also not how you write a novel.
@funent9611 5 ай бұрын
So, I just need to ask myself, "What do they need to know?" & "What are some nice ways to Show, not tell."
@writing-chops 5 ай бұрын
Great way of putting it! 🙌
@iamsleepy 5 ай бұрын
Loved this!
@writing-chops 5 ай бұрын
Thank you so much! Delighted that you enjoyed it.
@AlexeyShort 5 ай бұрын
Читал Дина кунца много много всего и уж точно не структура истории у него рулит. Вы просто кучка 😊 имбецилов
@timberliikay 5 ай бұрын
I started out doung the save the cat method back in 2019. Loved it. Just recently, in January, I tried out the 3 act method, which was pretty fun, too. Now that I've watched this video, I'll try out the snowflake structure since my ideas come to me as scenes.
@writing-chops 5 ай бұрын
Fantastic! Great work! Yes, I've used a few different story structure methods in the past as well. For my next project, I actually plan on using the Snowflake method tool. It's a clean way to make clear progress, while also staying productive. Let me know how it goes!
@dustinchristensen4909 5 ай бұрын
Great video and amazingly simplified principles. Is there any way you would list all the terms in the comments. For some reason the pinups are a little blurry on my screen and I’m not always able to make out exactly what you say when naming each term. I would so appreciate it if you would consider this heartfelt request. Thank you very much.
@writing-chops 5 ай бұрын
Thank you so much. Delighted to hear that you enjoyed it. We actually posted them all on our blog: www.writingchops.io/blog/40-literary-terms-writers But we can also pop them into the comment section as well. Thanks for watching!
@dustinchristensen4909 5 ай бұрын
Thank you I’ll check it out.
@dustinchristensen4909 5 ай бұрын
Oh yeah. This is perfect. Thanks so much.
@BKNeifert 5 ай бұрын
I disagree with this. I think writing is meant to communicate important ideas, and not just to entertain us. It can have entertaining elements, but why do we have to write a novel like it were a movie? When movies are 100xs more entertaining? It's like, going to kill reading if we make it about having fun, and not communicating important ideas. It can be entertaining... good writers do both, but the Logocentric motive of a Novel takes precedent over its entertainment. I don't particularly enjoy reading that much to begin with, and what I do enjoy is the ideas it brings. I think people are going to figure that out, too, because reading is work. It should give us something a little more edifying than just a simple adventure and thrill. You don't read Tolstoy for the plot, but for the Characters. Or Orwell for the action scenes, you read it primarily for the exposition. When someone said Ray Bradbury was slow, once, I knew we were heading for a world of hurt, because that's why we read is for exposition and knowledge. When people don't allow writing like that to flourish you get the backwardness of today's world because everything is sensationalized.
@writing-chops 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the comment. I think it all depends on the purpose of the project. There's no way to impose any specific rules on writers or their stories. Maybe the closest you can get is to not lose your reader or your audience. Entertainment and education will fail if the writer can't keep it engaging. And for expositional writing, your end-message might resonate better if it is isn't delivered in too blunt of a way. But again, each project is different 😉 Thanks for watching!
@BKNeifert 5 ай бұрын
@@writing-chops Yeah I get yeah. That Hideous Strength is one of the most boring novels I've ever read. It's just so bored with itself. I liked Malacandra and Perelandra, sort of, but this book is just... every time I pick it up over the last 14 years, It's just never gotten interesting. It's like Lewis is cataloging his job, and is translating the boring aspects of it into the novel. That's what I get, anyway. It's like being a professor, and there's some lame, hair brained scheme being produced with them. I'd actually like more exposition in the novel, as when he does, it's interesting. But the novel has so much day to day stuff, and it's not even in a different universe or something, where you'd be interested in it. It's just, not my cup of tea.
@marlinthecreative118 5 ай бұрын
I marry a modified "Save the Car Writes a Novel" with three Shawn Coyne's Content Genres (CG) (Hero/Protagonist has one inner CG and one exterior CG and the B story has a second usually external genre.) These give me the beets STC and the Scenes (Obligatory Scenes for the three CGs). I have been working on producing a video desribing my method. I have been wanting to research the Heroine's Journey as a story structure also. Will soon do this as soon as I finish my most recent draft of my WIP. Good video in assiting people in understanding basic story structures. I wish I has known this years ago when I attempted my first writing. Learnig this has propelled my whole process into a new level.
@writing-chops 5 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for the kind words. Yes, it totally makes sense to blend and mix techniques. This approach sounds very interesting. Hit us up if you make a video on it. I'd love to check it out.
@jwstanley2645 5 ай бұрын
While it would have been impossible to mention all candidates for the list, I would have thought that idiom and cliche would have been contenders. Perhaps cliche bashing has become a cliche.
@writing-chops 5 ай бұрын
A totally clichéd comment! 😅 I'm just playing. Yes, absolutely great points. We will strive to feature them both in the part 2 follow-up of this video.
@erinaltstadt4234 5 ай бұрын
Thank you
@erinaltstadt4234 5 ай бұрын
Thank you
@geoffhoutman1557 5 ай бұрын
Sweet
@braydenb1581 5 ай бұрын
I wish when people made videos about story structure they would stay with one film or book because these steps blend together and that confuses some people so sticking to one film would work better
@writing-chops 5 ай бұрын
Totally appreciate that. We have plans to create Chops on individual Story Structure Models in more detail. But this overview was to showcase commonalities and differences across the board. Is there one in particular that you'd like to learn more about?
@Tommy_007 5 ай бұрын
Why is you mouth open?
@writing-chops 5 ай бұрын
🤐
@moshecallen 6 ай бұрын
1. If the video says it's about the most common story structures, selling people on the idea of story structure should not be what the video is about. It should be about story structures. 2. Story circle etc are not alternate story structures. They are different sets of plot point markers for the same standard linear plot structure. In medias res does qualify, but I think the explanation of it I got in my third grade state school better and more straight forward. It's a loop-like structure that uses the climax as a hook and then jumps back to explain how the story got there.
@Hathathorne 6 ай бұрын
Yikes, that just happened. I liked the part where you said "It's writing chop time"
@writing-chops 6 ай бұрын
Just don't tell Morbius... 😳
@useeee616 6 ай бұрын
Wow mate. I just... I hate, I hate, I hate.....!!!!! How little.. Well, cmon now, writing isn’t so big anymore. Your channel is just fucking GOLD. Like wow. I wont waste time explaining my dreams. But wow. You really have an eye. Like you been in the industry. Thanks. I really feel like ‘24 is going to be the year............. I start. I’ve committed to Final Draft 12 and Scrivener, been doing concept work and development work since I was 21 so 10 years and have been worldbuilding and passionately learning about the Art of Write since I was 9 so 22 years. I think its time...... to finally test things out in screenplay contests which are one of the most essential ways for new writers in todays age. And my novels are a whooole nother story. Thank you for your work. You deserve millions of views.
@writing-chops 6 ай бұрын
Thank you so much. Sounds like you got a whole TON of passion just waiting to get out... Awesome that you have Final Draft. My only advice now would be to write that first draft. World building and learning is fantastic. But it can also be a distraction to what the real game is: Writing the story. Don't be a perfection. Don't worry if there are more holes in the plot than a piece of cheese. Just get the pages done. Once you have your first draft ready, NOW it's time to revise and fix up everything! Best of luck!
@ivanrakk 7 ай бұрын
Dan Harmon for me.
@writing-chops 6 ай бұрын
It's great, isn't it?! So simple, yet effective.