"C.S. Lewis on War and Enemy Love"
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@cassandraseven3478
@cassandraseven3478 10 күн бұрын
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@evangelinapark7824
@evangelinapark7824 15 күн бұрын
Best Classical prof I've had so far!!! His classes are so fun🔥
@robinrubendunst869
@robinrubendunst869 22 күн бұрын
Meister Erckert said something about the things that terrify us are only the things we have to let go of. What we perceive as demons are actually angels trying to loose our fingers around the things that keep us earthbound. Question: do you think that the works of CS Lewis and Tolkien have basically superseded the works of George MacDonald? Seeing as Lewis’s work in particular were influenced (or seeded) if not inspired by Phantastes, and developed the genre making the older work obsolete, in some way. I mean, does Phantastes stand the test of time, does it stand alone?
@NotOneSparrow
@NotOneSparrow 23 күн бұрын
Thank you all, this podcast has been a favorite of mine since I first encountered it, always thoughtful and educational. And thank you, Crystal and David, for your heartfelt service to the Wade Center, and to all of us.
@ldwenzel1
@ldwenzel1 Ай бұрын
Always enjoy hearing from Philip Yancey
@stevebarns9106
@stevebarns9106 Ай бұрын
Very helpful conversation except for the silly jokes at times that distracted from the content.
@BINTETA.42CAORIS
@BINTETA.42CAORIS Ай бұрын
Barrel oven
@ldwenzel1
@ldwenzel1 Ай бұрын
I am a big fan of Mark Nolls, so thank you for this interview. I was especially caught by Nolls’ concern of the “ADORATION." This has been a particular interest for me. In the early 1980s, I attended an evangelical college. The education I got there was very good, but I could hardly sit through a chapel service without one visiting speaker after another forcing in another a hands-down quote from C.S Lewis. I remember joking: "If one more chapel speaker quotes" C. S. Lewis, I'm going to scream." Of course, when the next chapel speaker again quoted Lewis, I didn't scream ;-) Ever since then, I have become sensitive to any iconization of Lewis that seems to be everywhere in the evangelical world. Personally, I have the greatest respect for Lewis, but I am put off by this adoration. It seems to underline what Nolls calls "The Scandal of the Evangelical Mind." You don't need to read the book. The title says it all. By the way, not many talk about a backlash to Lewis' work, a kind of anti-idol, especially with his Narnia tales. Everyone knows a few Christian parents who do not allow their children to read the Narnia tales because of Lewis's free use of witches, fauns, and other Occult figures. In fact, no one talks about that there are fringe right-wing Christian groups who, on their websites, actually decry writers like Lewis and Tolkien for being Occult practitioners. I find this mainstream/fringe estrangement of adoration and demonization fascinating. In fact, (drum roll) I have written a book about this engaging subject and have woven it into an intense fiction thriller called “A Witch in the Wardrobe.” It is being published by Wifp and Stock and is due to be released in a few months-www.ldwenzel.com. Updates can come, and I will appreciate all comments and likes.
@youfool7696
@youfool7696 Ай бұрын
“But we would never shout ‘What!’ at a hall full of unruly thanes to get their attention.” Lil Jon: HWAT?
@rinkjt1406
@rinkjt1406 Ай бұрын
Bilbo's Last Song is really amazing.
@robbieandbrucehinshelwood5859
@robbieandbrucehinshelwood5859 Ай бұрын
Dearest David and Crystal, and Aaron Your podcasts have educated and 🎉buoyed me up for over 2 years. Your humor, your insights, your scholarship and your down to earth friendliness all reflect the best qualities of your 7 authors. I will miss you. May God bless your Colorado retirement. Thank you.
@richhasnip5374
@richhasnip5374 Ай бұрын
Thanks everyone - have loved listening to these podcasts - wishing you all well and will look forward to whatever the future holds.
@ck1578
@ck1578 Ай бұрын
Thank you for your faithful stewardship. Enjoy your just reward!
@diego-search
@diego-search Ай бұрын
Thank you Crystal and David, welcome Dr. Beitler!
@ProfesserLuigi
@ProfesserLuigi Ай бұрын
Dangit, who will talk about Dorothy Sayers now?
@richhasnip5374
@richhasnip5374 Ай бұрын
And postmodernism and 'this AND'
@margaretmiros1672
@margaretmiros1672 Ай бұрын
Crystal your comments are insightful but I wish you could tone down your presentation. Your tendency toward emphatic declarations come across as overbearing.
@ekurisona663
@ekurisona663 Ай бұрын
thankful for post-modernism 🤣
@SharonD7
@SharonD7 2 ай бұрын
Thank you.
@carolinafine8050
@carolinafine8050 2 ай бұрын
Covid? Out of all of the ills in the world. Covid??
@carolinafine8050
@carolinafine8050 2 ай бұрын
The background info the lady is providing at the beginning is phenomenal.
@valbee7739
@valbee7739 3 ай бұрын
Thank you Chloe and Elise for sharing such intimate details of your archival research, from Tolkien's tear-stained manuscript to Lewis's annotation 'Bears are not philosophers'. I similarly loved your clever poems about the notorious Dr. Stein. Keep up the good work!!
@SharonD7
@SharonD7 3 ай бұрын
Thank you. Blessings in Jesus' name.
@Nighttrainpiper
@Nighttrainpiper 3 ай бұрын
This was a great companion for THS, and an excellent analysis of its meaning both for Lewis personally and for society.
@kicsms_science3729
@kicsms_science3729 3 ай бұрын
It’s been ages since I read these books, but now you’ve got me itching to go back & experience them all over again!
@Wraiths_and_Wreckage
@Wraiths_and_Wreckage 3 ай бұрын
Every once in a while I disagree with Lewis, and this is one of those times. How does he miss the fact that the man ruling over his wife is a part of the CURSE? It's a punishment that comes as a RESULT of sin, not a precursor to it. As for the idea (not Lewis') that Adam sinned 'nobly' to die with his wife, that's belied by his immediately throwing her under the bus. lol
@Bradford.C.Wallsbury
@Bradford.C.Wallsbury 3 ай бұрын
Doesn't Genesis 2:18 "an help" imply a kind of functional subordination of Eve though?
@melindalemmon2149
@melindalemmon2149 4 ай бұрын
Love this.
@roycejohnson4605
@roycejohnson4605 4 ай бұрын
Well done, dear friends! Royce and Susan with C.S. Lewis Institute, Belfast.
@brittkelly6326
@brittkelly6326 4 ай бұрын
Fascinating discussion I just finished it first the first time and lived the book. So much to ponder
@rogerwagner6866
@rogerwagner6866 4 ай бұрын
You might enjoy these memories of a young catholic student meeting Lewis during the war kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ldVhetyGzq_Im6M.html
@ainestewart8775
@ainestewart8775 5 ай бұрын
Thanks again for this presentation. It puts me in mind of the film 84 Charing Cross Rd. with Anthony Hopkins and the English/American cultural exchange of that period. This actor also portrayed Lewis so well and composed a piece of music entitled : The Waltz goes on. I'm reading Claire Tomalin's biography of Thomas Hardy right now. Countryside born and bred, he was almost naturally humble but his disillusionment with the Christian faith was increasingly reflected in his work. It was nothing like the humble attitude of Lewis. He was often overwhelmed by depression and upset by reviews.
@jessjessup2361
@jessjessup2361 5 ай бұрын
Thanks, folks, I'm enjoyig the podcasts here on KZfaq.
@jsaintil
@jsaintil 5 ай бұрын
He has a hell of a wife. Every time she speaks my mind is blown. I want to hear more from her.
@notillatall
@notillatall 5 ай бұрын
"dont remember him wearing it...might well be" lol
@cassandraseven3478
@cassandraseven3478 5 ай бұрын
Taurus is a Fixed Earth sign ruled by Venus and likes everything to be comfortable, peaceful and nice, including the creature comforts.
@user-km9xi5fi9o
@user-km9xi5fi9o 5 ай бұрын
The presentation was quite a feast. From the student presentation of the battle to the questions. Kudos to the Wade, Weber, and Beitler!
@m.b.6573
@m.b.6573 5 ай бұрын
Thank you.
@Wraiths_and_Wreckage
@Wraiths_and_Wreckage 6 ай бұрын
okay, okay, I'll read the literary criticism stuff. :) It's kind of a shame he didn't go back further. The Greeks aren't divorced from their predecessors either. Go back far enough you run into Mesopotamia, and back into biblical themes.
@ProfesserLuigi
@ProfesserLuigi 6 ай бұрын
Medieval literature and history was Lewis's specialty, so it's his focus.
@cassandraseven3478
@cassandraseven3478 5 ай бұрын
He would probably have been interested in biblical themes.@@ProfesserLuigi
@ainestewart8775
@ainestewart8775 6 ай бұрын
Greetings from lreland! Thanks guys and gal, I've picked up a lot from your discussion. Not being overly defensive but for the sake of information, the Catholic mystic in the Poem of the Man-God (visions received), Maria Valtorta (She never left ltaly but described the Holy Land in scientific detail,) said that Anne and Joachim came together briefly , especially being senior citizens, but Anne still had the stain of original sin. Impeccable Grandma was very humorous. Regarding the Immaculate Conception, the saintly "eagle of Meaux" stated: As fountains lift their bubbling waters to the same height from which they have fallen, so the blood of the Saviour will cause its power to be lifted up even to the conception of his mother to honour the place from which it first flowed. Fr. Donald Calloway in his book, Consecration to St. Joseph, argues for a young St. Joseph, despite much artwork to the contrary and quotes Fulton Sheehan: Instead then, of being dried fruit to be served on the table of the king, he was rather a blossom filled with promise and power.
@WadeCenter
@WadeCenter 6 ай бұрын
A reply from Crystal Downing: "Thanks very much for this nuancing of the Immaculate Conception. In a future podcast we will communicate the insight you and others sent us about this long-debated topic. I was assuming that the Church declared it dogma in 1854 based on the apocryphal Gospel of James, which teaches that Anne gave birth to Mary, the mother of Jesus, without sexual intercourse involved. Thanks for the clarification-and for the quotation from Bishop Sheen’s 1952 text “The World’s First Love.” I have come to respect Fulton Sheen immensely, based on the superb scholarship of a Wheaton colleague."
@Jaymusicman
@Jaymusicman 6 ай бұрын
3:45 When I took my daughter, Lauren, to look at colleges, we checked out Westmont in CA where the English prof showed us their plain wardrobe from Lewis's home that better matched the book's description. Nevertheless, Lauren blessedly chose Wheaton.
@carolyncastelli6736
@carolyncastelli6736 6 ай бұрын
So much WONDER in 3 minutes and 44 seconds!
@michellefrench6617
@michellefrench6617 6 ай бұрын
It has to be a rainy day to get in!
@Wraiths_and_Wreckage
@Wraiths_and_Wreckage 7 ай бұрын
I always loved this one because of the Providence aspect. And when I think of Providence I think of the book of Esther. Which took place in Persia.
@jbohnert
@jbohnert 7 ай бұрын
Yes, Walter Hooper stopped Warnie from burning letters. I believe he pulled them out of the fire.
@walkerhjk
@walkerhjk 8 ай бұрын
It is from the Degree ceremony performed by Oxford University. - 'Does it please. Master?' - 'It pleases'.
@hazelwray4184
@hazelwray4184 8 ай бұрын
27:08 everyone could see that social reform was a bust, "that's what led up to WWI" - nonsense.
@WadeCenter
@WadeCenter 8 ай бұрын
A response from David and Crystal Downing: "Thanks for your comment, Hazel. You have highlighted how any asset can have liabilities. The Wade podcast is praised all over the world for intellectual substance delivered with laugh-filled enjoyment, like a conversation around a dinner table. But that means many comments are off the top of the speaker’s head-as in any dinner conversation, where another person’s immediate response can preclude the possibility for elaboration of a simplistic statement, like the one you identified. So of course the causes of WWI were complex, going way beyond the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand. However, what the comment meant to highlight was the social situation of the era, when Modernists were assuming the progressivism of Social Darwinism: that humanity was becoming more intellectually and morally sophisticated. The Great War totally subverted that assumption, thus reinforcing Christian truth about human nature."
@Laocoon283
@Laocoon283 8 ай бұрын
Best video on this book i have found yet. By far.
@bbsmith9409
@bbsmith9409 8 ай бұрын
Didn't Walter Hooper stop Warnie from burning CS Lewis' letters? He's encouraging this missionary to keep her letters.
@kahearne5361
@kahearne5361 9 ай бұрын
The bible can only be understood with the Holy Spirit.
@kahearne5361
@kahearne5361 9 ай бұрын
George MacDonald was a Congregationalist.... never heard a Calvinist but perhaps and will be glad to hear.
@Bradford.C.Wallsbury
@Bradford.C.Wallsbury 3 ай бұрын
Congregationalists are Calvinist
@sorenkrane
@sorenkrane 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for this. I have read all his novels and I believe he is the most profound writer that no one knows about.