That's an interesting issue to have. What part of painting light colors gives you trouble?

Yep, "sparingly and targeted" I think I said in the video, or at least something close to that lol. Thanks for subbing, I'll do my best to continue to make interesting videos.

*Laughs in Thousand Sons

Thank you!

Sometimes it does it's job

Kinda, they're a Space wolf successor that leans little further into knightly aesthetics

Thanks so much!

I didn't really feel the need to include cone for such a basic intro since it behaves essentially identically to a tapered cylinder.

Unfortunately I was so pressed for time trying to get it done before GD I didn't take any painting footage. I do have a fair few chaos models in the pile of shame though, so I could definitely be persuaded to do another word bearer

Appreciate the kind words and the new sub. I'm a little late to the party in terms of mini painting youtubers so hopefully it's just a matter of time and effort before I get there.

Glad to hear that. I am always concerned about whether I'm making my points well since I have to balance information with brevity.

Glad to have you aboard! And no reason not to start making videos if you find it fun!

Idk if I would go as far as to say "just as good", nothing will ever replace the precision of a good sable brush for me, but dry brushing is definitely more capable than a lot of people give it credit for.

I think you're exactly right here about the common mini painting application of dry brushing evolving largely independently from its use in other fine arts. This is actually a broader problem I see in the mini painting community where we so often see ourselves and our painting techniques as separate from traditional painters. It was such a huge breakthrough for me when I realized that actually its all the same, and art theory is applicable across all mediums. It's understandable why there is this disconnect though, since I think mini painters (especially if they are wargamers as well) consider themselves as hobbyists in a way that's much different from someone who has decided to take up drawing or painting as a hobby. For the letter two there's an implicit understanding that they are going to be engaging in capital A "Art", but for many mini painters they most likely start out just thinking "hey I need to color in my little plastic dudes so I can play a game".

@@HereticsHeroes Seriously right along the lines of what I was thinking. Even classically trained, I have a hard time connecting the two mentally, it really feels like I have to make conscious effort to cross the skills over. Love to see your take on things like the Zorn Palette; I'll hit you up sometime on your Patreon to see where I can improve things - I've definitely hit a plateau and am having trouble getting to a higher level from where I'm at.

@@Lanessar8008 looking forward to hearing from you. Though tbh you probably have more knowledge in terms of the theory, I'm self taught and definitely still learning along the way. I just had to look up what the Zorn Palette was, but it seems very interesting, I'll definitely be reading more.

@@HereticsHeroes I'll sign up on Patreon after the first. I think your input would be extremely helpful - Art theory versus practical application is a HUGE gap.

Awesome! And just in case you're waiting till the 1st so as not to get double billed, I've set mine up so it rebills on sign up date not the 1st of the month.

I'd say give it a try, it should work on any kind of model. Also, got any recommendations on where to get good DnD minis? Doing some DnD content has been on my radar for a while; I was thinking of maybe mixing the two worlds together a little bit and do a video where I try to kitbash a Critical Role character out of Warhammer minis.

Makeup brushes are the best! (the brush I was using in the vid was definitely not ratty and old its an Artis Opus series D I got in a set so kind of expensive, but tbh I think my makeup brushes are better)

It's ultra matte. 100% acrylic as far as I'm aware but there are probably full product specs in the website.

Definitely a valid way to go about it.

Gonna try it out again for sure

I usually like my models to be wysiwyg just for aesthetic purposes. But maybe it could be an issue for a tournament idk?

Apologies for the delay in response. It's gonna be a bit involved, so I'll do a full write up of paints and color choices and post in on my Patreon tomorrow. It'll be free for anyone to access.

Paint list/walkthrough here www.patreon.com/posts/kroot-paint-list-104013197?Link&

I have subsequently tried again with a slightly more damp drybrush and it didn't totally solve the problem.

Yeah that stigma prevented me from trying it for a long time, but it worked out great. If I can just solve the texture problem I would consider using it all the time

@@HereticsHeroes I wonder if there's any way the texture is from your brush picking up pieces from the paper towel?

@radshoesbro nope didn't use paper towel. I followed all the guidelines for "proper" drybrushing technique, but there was still some grit left behind.

@@HereticsHeroes hmmmm...I'm far from an expert so I'm sure you'll get this one figured out. That being said, I do remember hearing that lighter colored paints use physically larger pieces of pigment. Maybe try a different brand of paint? Or even a bit of medium to break it down slightly?

@radshoesbro that definitely may have something to do with it. Next time I'm gonna try using the moistening pad I got at adepticon and see if that actually works.

I'm planning to integrate what I learned here into future projects. I'm very much leaning towards trying to do like a halfway underpaint where we just set up the shadows and midtones and then leave the final highlights entirely to brush work so we can maintain full vibrancy where it matters most

@@HereticsHeroes interesting! Do you think you can get the same or better vibrancy with regular acrylics compared to contrast paint over white?

@ Definitely. Part of the reason this one looks as good as it does is that I did a significant amount or "normal" painting over the slapchop, treating it like a setup phase.

@@HereticsHeroes Okay, thanks! Looking forward to your next videos. :)

It's on the list for sure

Definitely give it a try

Happy to have you aboard!

Always good to hear I've given some inspiration! I'll do my best to keep it up.

There's quite a few elements that could use extra work, but I really wanted to keep it as a 1 sitting kind of project, so no more refinement for me.

Awesome to hear. I'm trying to walk the fine line between informative and entertaining.

I hit it with skeleton horde first, but I went over it with nazdreg yellow to brighten it up.

​@@HereticsHeroesthanks!

Glad to have you!

That's a really great question. But I think even if you were going for something more stylized like that, you would be better off going for a really dark brown, red, green, or purple for two reasons: 1. If you take a look at Blanche's artwork, even though it is really high contrast, I don't think his deepest shadows are ever truly black, you can confirm this by putting one into photoshop and using the dropper tool. At most, the outlines are black, but I'll address that in point 2. 2. Avoiding using black is as much about what it does to the color around it as the overall contrast. Black on its own has a sort of chilling effect on the colors around it, causing them to be a little dull and lifeless, and when doing an underpainting like this, it is going to sap your mid tones. Blanche very much uses a limited and earthy color palette, but I wouldn't describe those colors as dull, in fact they're quite vibrant in their own way. What I would do instead to achieve that very high contrast and stylized look, is use one of the colors I mentioned above as your base, and then towards the end of the painting process blackline some of the deepest recesses/boundaries between shapes in order to replicate that sort of illustrated vibe.

@@HereticsHeroes Awesome take on it, thank you for your reply. Come to think of it, even when I'm doing "Grimdark" Sons of Horus, I'm pretty much doing everything with an incubi darkness block in and leaving black for the metallics, I'll have to look at using some earth tones for those pieces as well to take off the chill. The blacklining with enamels is something I tried on my last attempt, and is definitely the right way to go as you've said.

Yeah, while I did enjoy doing this one, and the final result looks pretty good, I'm definitely still searching for my perfect quick paint method