Handgun Safe

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@chuckbevan3391 2 күн бұрын

Seems like a secure and reliable option for the many guns i only shoot maybe once or twice a year. My fort knox pistol box is all i need for my ccw and home defense handgun. Id buy a few of these if they were a bit cheaper

@francklugue2371 8 күн бұрын

The whole point of the 'secret' latch is to lock the catches in place, you are always supposed to leave the safe secured this way. A fair test would be to engage the 'secret' latch and redo the test, I'm sure the outcome will be very different...

@HandgunSafe 8 күн бұрын

The point I made on video is that it doesn't matter. If the safe is not bolted down, one only has to try one position on the dial and drop the safe. If that fails, try the next position and drop the safe. Continue until open.

@clarkguenfu 8 күн бұрын

@@HandgunSafe Sure, if they know it's a safe in the first place and that there is a secret latch commanded by the knob... The whole point of the diversion is that they won't know. The user is supposed to ALWAYS engage the secret latch. In this case there is no way the safe will open upon impact. While you raise some valid point about the documentation, the drop test is misleading, it makes it looks like this safe will open by itself if dropped while properly locked :/

@HandgunSafe 8 күн бұрын

@@clarkguenfu You're describing what is known as "security through obscurity." In this case, the safe remains a secure diversion strategy for gun storage until it is no longer obscure. Once the safe is on the market, presumably selling through the website and maybe Amazon, and once it has been reviewed on KZfaq and elsewhere, the diversion is no longer obscure. Thus, the security is lost. Even without my video, the obscurity would vanish. I've advised companies for years to avoid this strategy for their devices.

@TestHandlePleaseIgnore 8 күн бұрын

Thank you so much for the review. I’m a soon to be new gun owner and I wanted a small secure safe for a S&W 380 Shield EZ. This is perfect for my needs. Thank you again!

@HandgunSafe 8 күн бұрын

You're buying good brands all around!

@newyoutube6282 11 күн бұрын

Wonder how V-Line boxes hold up.

@HandgunSafe 11 күн бұрын

They use the same lock. Their boxes look different. I don't know what you mean by "hold up." But I can tell you the difference comes down to style.

@newyoutube6282 11 күн бұрын

@@HandgunSafe I'm star struck that you of all people commented. I'm bashful lol. I meant hold up to pen testing like if they would be approved on your list hypothetically if they were tested. They seem to have upgraded their boxes with the protective cover as well.

@HandgunSafe 11 күн бұрын

@@newyoutube6282 They're both good brands. I would select one that offers the right storage for your needs.

@newyoutube6282 11 күн бұрын

@@HandgunSafe thank you so much. I had been looking at them for a while and was wondering if they met your standard or garnered your general approval lol

@LGB-FJB 11 күн бұрын

Ah, the good old light drop 9 times trick. It is almost like they triee to fail as designing this product.

@LGB-FJB 11 күн бұрын

Tried*

@HandgunSafe 11 күн бұрын

@@LGB-FJB Eye make typehoes you woodnot beleeve al the tyme.

@NickiBerlin 21 күн бұрын

This has the same Simplex lock you bypassed in 5 minutes with a drill and small screwdriver. Why is this approved?

@HandgunSafe 21 күн бұрын

The lock has a housing to prevent the lock from being punched through from the outside. The housing is plainly visible on viideo.

@Flopsaurus 25 күн бұрын

Looks like an incredible lockbox

@hernspierre-louis7337 28 күн бұрын

Can you do a video and give an update on what you did to the cabinet?

@HandgunSafe 28 күн бұрын

When I took the safe apart, I found too many holes in the door to bother plugging with nuts and bolts and washers. It was going to look ridiculous, so I tossed it out.

@jamesorlong Ай бұрын

How hard is it to pull the cable from the little brown piece that connects it form the box so that they could just take the whole box without cutting the steel cable? What's so special about the M-Lock locks from MAKE locks? What tools is it resistant to?

@HandgunSafe Ай бұрын

I didn't test how hard it is to pull the cable from the crimped piece. You can contact Steelhead and ask them to provide some testing data on that. The M1 lock is an excellent lock with a sidebar. The lock looks like a wafer lock, but it isn't. The sidebar is inaccessible from inside the keyway, so there is no way to compromise it. The face plate is 1/8th inch steel, and there are also anti-drill pins in the face of it. You're going to have to ruin a drill bit or two, or a couple of screwdrivers, to force it open.

@russelallen5342 Ай бұрын

It's odd that Big Red's instructions say to put the spindle key flag over end of the dial shaft, S&G uses the same set up and they say not to, that correct orientation is against the drive cam.

@HandgunSafe Ай бұрын

I don't know what to say. I haven't played with all that many of these kinds of mechanical locks. The Big Red locks are designed by somebody not affiliated with S&G, and the designs are his, though the locks are fabricated in China.

@binyamj Ай бұрын

Your handgun safe reviews are amazing and extremely helpful.

@benzam6218 Ай бұрын

That rug really ties the room together.

@HandgunSafe Ай бұрын

In case you want to know, those rugs are cheap Home Depot runners that absorb sound, so the audio doesn't echo too much. Other KZfaqrs lay blankets all over the floor, but I end up tripping when I try that. No one will ever see those outtakes.

@johnnyjorgensen4768 Ай бұрын

Old thread I know but how thick is the steel for this compared to the for Knox? It seems like more features at a lower price point I'm just curious if there's any drawbacks

@HandgunSafe Ай бұрын

The two boxes are nearly identical and have the same amount of steel. Just get the one you want. 😀

@IAmThePrepper Ай бұрын

Great video. I wonder if it passes the test using hammer to hit the push buttons? Would it be able to open?

@HandgunSafe Ай бұрын

The housing welded into this will prevent the punch attack. That's why I recommend it. I didn't bother trying to destroy it, because there is no reason to.

@IAmThePrepper Ай бұрын

This one is definitely more expensive than then key entry one. However, I am going for this one as it is on your approval list and when I have to open it at night, I don’t want to get the key in the dark while every second counts.

@stephanieroberts1394 2 ай бұрын

Handgun Safe do you like this key version over the push button version? Thank you.

@HandgunSafe 2 ай бұрын

I don't know. The decision to buy one or the other comes down to intended use.

@calholli 2 ай бұрын

Have you ever pulled apart a simplex lock? I'd like to see how it works on the inside..

@HandgunSafe 2 ай бұрын

Yes, I've taken these locks apart. The lock is elegant in its design. But when I go to the trouble of recording a detailed video on a technical matter, the video receives only modest views. A video covering how the 5-button Simplex lock works would be a lot of work for very few views. In fact, in case you want to know, the average watch time for my videos is 1 minute, 30 seconds, no matter the topic.

@calholli 2 ай бұрын

@@HandgunSafe lol.. bummer. I'm just fascinated in how they work.. I've never heard of them until recently. I've been getting free safe's that were open.. and I learned how to decode the combination locks.. But the simplex is it's own little world. :) ... I love learning about cool stuff like this, that I never even knew was out there.................... Well, If you ever did make a video with a complete teardown of a simplex: I would be grateful and super excited.. Cheers. (I subbed too, btw).. I liked your math video on counting the possible combinations. very cool

@nodira608 2 ай бұрын

What is the cheapest lockbox/safe you recommend? It would only need to be able to stop a curious teenager for my use case.

@HandgunSafe 2 ай бұрын

My recommendations are in my recommendations list. I don't rank them by cost or features, but none of them are cheap.

@nodira608 2 ай бұрын

@@HandgunSafe I see, thanks 👍

@vsevolodtokarev 2 ай бұрын

I could use one like this if it wasn't a such a woeful failure.

@minigunsniper 2 ай бұрын

I bought a sturdy simplex-based safe based on your suggestions. I appreciate you putting this information out, and have encouraged friends to watch your videos. Thanks!

@ColtonRMagby 2 ай бұрын

Basically, do NOT put guns in it. Use it as a decoy.

@LynxSnowCat 2 ай бұрын

Maybe install it at the end of a counter, then put a bag of almonds or walnuts inside, and make a set of food-safe jaws (folded pie-plate) that hooks onto that 'ledge' to minimize contamination. Were that ledge a little larger I'd say can crusher, or gravel pulverizer but the original mounting plate is really not substantial enough for that.

@ColtonRMagby 2 ай бұрын

@@LynxSnowCat Or put sugar in there so little kids can't get it.

@SaulTalamantes 2 ай бұрын

do you have instagram platform ?

@HandgunSafe 2 ай бұрын

Nope, just a KZfaq channel and a website, which is mostly for people in the industry.

@scottmackey4182 2 ай бұрын

It’s amazing how something that “looks” sturdy and safe can be such a piece of crap.

@harris7066 2 ай бұрын

Love your videos. I would love if you took a look at the Vara Safety Reach 2s.

@HandgunSafe 2 ай бұрын

To be honest, I have no interest in the Vera Safety thing. And unless I could talk them into sending one for free, I would rather not spend $270 or whatever they want for it. Sorry.

@fdsman 2 ай бұрын

vaultz makes pencil boxes and equivalent "lock boxes" aimed at children and maybe high school kids, I can't believe they'd have the balls to put out a handgun safe built exactly the same way as their other products.

@HandgunSafe 2 ай бұрын

This comment got held up by KZfaq. Maybe it was "have the balls" that triggered the hold up. Anyway, I let it through, and I agree. I can't believe Vaultz would make a handgun safe like a pencil box, or maybe a guitar case.

@bloodgain 2 ай бұрын

Wow, what a piece of junk. A handgun safe should not be less secure and less well-built than a cheap briefcase.

@hh--- 2 ай бұрын

Yo, this pos is 50 bucks! 🤙🏽

@HandgunSafe 2 ай бұрын

When I got it, this was 39.99. So I guess people are buying it and using it for guns.

@minigunsniper 2 ай бұрын

It's a kids toy, being marketed for handguns.

@ColtonRMagby 2 ай бұрын

Good for storing documentals of little or no importance, but that's IT.

@rotho282 2 ай бұрын

Ya know, there are ratings that are posted when you see a movie. I just don't think watching an R rated movie would kill someone if watched accidentally but something that is as important as locking up a firearm is left up to viewers discretion. This handgun "safe" screams that it is a Chinese POS. It should be rated XXX for impersonating a safety device. I really think a mandatory rating system, by qualified individuals, should be imposed on all safes sold in America.

@HandgunSafe 2 ай бұрын

The way you wrote this triggered the comments blocker, which is good I guess. I want to filter out the bad stuff, but this was funny.

@cynthiadunn9121 3 ай бұрын

Is this a combo lock?

@HandgunSafe 3 ай бұрын

Yes, it is a pushbutton combination lock.

@BoredSleuth 3 ай бұрын

I would love to see how this lock handles a drill test. I doubt all of these cam type locks. It seems like it could be drilled out with a large drill bit like 3/8-1/2” in <10 minutes

@HandgunSafe 3 ай бұрын

Most locks can be drilled. I've been force-testing locks for years. What's the point?

@replacesoundboard 3 ай бұрын

Self-note: watch this once I'm no longer weary of KZfaq

@HandgunSafe 3 ай бұрын

Try getting away from the ugliness by listening to cool music you never heard before. I've been discovering music on KZfaq. Here is some music I somehow missed: Unleash The Archers, Sigrid, and the new album by Kvelertak.

@BlueSpawn 3 ай бұрын

@@HandgunSafe Major respect to anybody who listens to UtA. I recommend Symphony X and Sonata Arctica's "White Pearl, Black Oceans" (not Part II). Also, Lords of Trident.

@HandgunSafe 3 ай бұрын

@@BlueSpawn I'm on it!

@replacesoundboard 3 ай бұрын

A part of me feels like it's about time I live my life instead of listening to people living theirs x)

@HandgunSafe 3 ай бұрын

@@replacesoundboard That's the part of you to listen to! Start doing what you want to be doing. Life is not a rehearsal.

@tascunique2001 3 ай бұрын

amazing, I love the bit of info on China. I did not know that!

@HandgunSafe 3 ай бұрын

The situation is even worse than I let on. I should probably do an in-depth video on this issue.

@BlueSpawn 3 ай бұрын

@@HandgunSafe Although it's not directly related to a GunSafe video channel, I would still really be interested in your take. Overall, I try to buy non-CCP products, but it's tough because it seems to be the only type of hardware that's sold.

@HandgunSafe 3 ай бұрын

@@BlueSpawn I hear you. China manufactures most of the fasteners, nuts-and-bolts, wiring, electrical components, and so on. I think this is going to change over time. You can still buy tools made in the U.S. And you can buy Knipex hand tools.

@StevenL00 3 ай бұрын

Hi there! How do you set up the panels inside the safe? I can't seem to do it with mine, and I already tried attaching the supplied metal pieces to the panels to no avail

@HandgunSafe 3 ай бұрын

I can't help you with it. I no longer own that particular safe. I gave it away and replaced it with another.

@number6705 3 ай бұрын

Great - helped me a lot with a Stack On!

@K33HOLDA83 3 ай бұрын

Thank you sir. Just bought my first firearm

@danielgoodman3578 4 ай бұрын

I tried to comment with a couple of youtube links and it got nixed/hidden. Usually youtube links don't trigger that. linkless version: you previously reviewed a Wincent bio/combo safe that failed because you could break off the access panel and jumper pins to pop the safe open. Active Self Protection advocated for a newer(?) Wincent product that seems to possibly lack that vulnerability and I was hoping you could review it. I'd be happy to link to it on his X post and youtube vid if you chose to. He has a wude enough audience and likes that product in context he explains, so I'm happy to provide warning or endorsement either way.

@cliftonlouie8385 4 ай бұрын

Do you have a recommendation on the best brand besides this brand for a lockbox stored in a vehicle? I have a CCW but there are times were it is not legal for me to carry inside a building. I am a big fan and think that these videos are very educational. All of the research I’ve done has been leading me back to cheap boxes or Amazon (which seem like really poor products).

@HandgunSafe 4 ай бұрын

The recommendations I make are all on my recommendations playlist. See: kzfaq.info/sun/PLJp0a5mt3TiTPJpZeA2jKPgYdjHIEvw9k

@cliftonlouie8385 4 ай бұрын

Thanks so much, you’re awesome!!

@genericyoutubeuser8957 Ай бұрын

Really appreciate the work you do. @@HandgunSafe

@Ethan_Lipsky 4 ай бұрын

I just took mine out of the box and it will not open via following the instructions. Pretty ridiculous

@HandgunSafe 4 ай бұрын

Contact Viking Safe through their website. Every one of those locks come from the factory with the same preset combination, 2&4 together, then 3. Maybe somebody at the second factory, where the locks are installed in the boxes, something went wrong.

@Ethan_Lipsky 4 ай бұрын

@@HandgunSafe yeah really not sure what happened. I sent an email, we’ll see if the get back but I’m leaving overseas tomorrow morning so hopefully they do by today 😂

@replacesoundboard 5 ай бұрын

Trivia: Did you know Ballistol also sells alcohol beverage in Germany? It's shaped like the small 50ml glass bottle they use for the oil too.

@HandgunSafe 5 ай бұрын

Interesting trivia. I'm switching over to Rand CLP.

@MrPawPaw 5 ай бұрын

Nice job. My e-lock is failing and I’m thinking this Big Red lock looks nice but are they out of business already? Where did you get this lock?

@tomcepek498 5 ай бұрын

Did you ever do a GunBox video? Also, will you be doing a Wyze review as well?

@replacesoundboard 5 ай бұрын

2:25 _"The damage is done."_ - Dave

@replacesoundboard 5 ай бұрын

Before watching the video, the biometric and the hidden bypass lock reminded me of the Verifi Smart Safe, before they listened to your feedback.

@replacesoundboard 5 ай бұрын

Well, at least the Verifi Smart Safe looked like it was worth its price

@HandgunSafe 5 ай бұрын

This box is nearly identical to the Smart Safes. The basic box fabrication has been around for years and years.

@LynxSnowCat 5 ай бұрын

() I keep forgetting how stupid these things are programmed to be. Instead of greeting them with the same cheerful tune - Just changing the response to a farting noise when there's no print registered would immediately inform the user that the safe is compromised - without increasing parts count. Making it hesitate/require confirmation to 'lock' without a registered print (illuminating the scanner until button pressed again) would inform the user that it wants a print - without increasing parts count. Making it refuse to lock (quickly) without using a registered fingerprint would force the user to return it to a more 'secure' condition - without increasing parts count.

@iFlyiRideiRace 5 ай бұрын

If that button is moved to a different place, I wonder if this safe will get your approval?

@HandgunSafe 5 ай бұрын

No. The bypass lock installed in this is a short-cylinder cross lock. I've demonstrated how to open them on this channel using tools any non-expert lock picker can use. Besides, the reason that some biometric handgun safes were recalled recently was this identical programming issue. If someone makes a mistake enrolling a fingerprint, that person has no way of knowing the safe will still open for any fingerprint without actively testing the safe. The risk of somebody leaving a safe available to anyone is too great, so devices that have this programming oversight are being recalled.

@iFlyiRideiRace 5 ай бұрын

Always good to hear from you.

@HandgunSafe 5 ай бұрын

Let me know if you would like to see more from my archives! I have tons of unposted video.

@embracethesuck1041 5 ай бұрын

Is a simplex lock box that small really worth $300?

@newyoutube6282 11 күн бұрын

Idk...that time you sprint to your box and the bad guy is between you and your car keys that are in the garage and you can open the box with the buttons will probably be worth it right? My life is worth more than $300. Most people that already swung the cost of a gun can afford to cut back on candy, cigarettes, fast food for a month or two to swing $300 for this box or something similar from Vline

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