Awesome work. The other videos just covered the trim seals, and i needed the tilt seal procedure too, thanks! Ready to tackle my honda bf225 seals with confidence.
@KuwaittamilGarage9 күн бұрын
Super 🎉🎉🎉
@outboardst.comoutboardspec86318 күн бұрын
Thanks!
@3falexchina12 күн бұрын
Hello! Could I ask you about the pinion under the top of gear in the oldest Yamaha 30 was located flat bearing, but modern motors don't contain this bearing. And next if pinion gear didn't have top bearing why does the vertical shaft have conical bearing except ballbearing? Conical bearing shold have pair of counterforce! But modern motors of 30 hp didn't have counter force for conical bearing! Please describe what the hell is going on with marketing?
@MrReadandlearn13 күн бұрын
Best video of this process yet. TY !
@outboardst.comoutboardspec86318 күн бұрын
Thanks very Much!
@cullinunderwood864915 күн бұрын
Absolute banger of a video! Appreciate it man.
@outboardst.comoutboardspec86318 күн бұрын
Thanks very much!
@benpena283220 күн бұрын
Greatly video; some fixes are DIY and this one is not for me; very informative; my relay switch only clicks when powered but the trim motor will engage and power the piston when I tap the piston housing with a rubber mallet; In this a seal problem or motor problem? Thanks in advance.
@outboardst.comoutboardspec86318 күн бұрын
Very sorry for the late reply: almost 100% the trim motor is failing
@jesseparkhurst303723 күн бұрын
Seems like a lot of force is being applied to the thin lip of the housing, is there danger of breaking the case?
@LoganDempsey-qi9zu26 күн бұрын
The rod that goes through the engine If I try to take it out, it gonna the hit boat, any easier way instained off taken engine off
@chrissurovic354328 күн бұрын
why did you have to remove the water pump ? why not just the shift shaft and bearing carrier ? also at 40:30 did you bend the tab in the wrong direction ? how does bending it forward stop the ring from coming loose, shouldnt it be bend over one of the slots in the carrier nut ?
@outboardst.comoutboardspec86318 күн бұрын
Mostly a habit. Usually if we are resealing a lower in my shop, all the seals and o-rings are getting replaced. Shift cover seal, drive shaft seals and lower. Bending the tab in the wrong direction would be accidental.
@chrissurovic3543Ай бұрын
great video, thanks ! do you know anybone in the tri-state area who can swap out a bent propshaft on a vmax250 for me ?
@Trkdriver74Ай бұрын
may be confused but thats the dirties rebuild ive ever seen grit rust tarnish ?
@tylerholland2232Ай бұрын
You'd be correct, all of the above. I recommended new bearings etc, but gear set, pinion, was ok, shift good, minimal wear on clutch dog. All bearings were definitely suspect. Owner said keep it cheap, bare minimum, which is what I did. At the time he was going to sell the boat, but decided to keep. 100+ hrs later, still good.
@dmdk107Ай бұрын
Спасибо из Москвы ,
@BlackoutBilll21Ай бұрын
FINALLY someone takes out the dang carrier!! thank you!
@sultanabdallah5525Ай бұрын
Hi Awesome video very informative, I have a pair of 2013 Yamaha F350 that i need to tackle, do you have a video for the F350 or is it the same as F250?
@daleborne6574Ай бұрын
I have the same Showa unit on my Yamaha 250 hpdi. My trim works fine but won’t tilt the motor up without assistance. I have to help lift it up. What could be the cause of this? I replaced the motor, relay and batteries and it still isn’t working properly.
@michaelcoggins2247Ай бұрын
I have a lower water housing that is stuck and the repair facility unfortunately cracked it and still is not able to get it out. Any thoughts on how to get it out?
@michaelcoggins2247Ай бұрын
FYI, motor is a Yamaha 2005 90 2stroke
@outboardst.comoutboardspec8631Ай бұрын
The lower housing on the 90 can be a challenge. can you send any available photos to [email protected]. I want to see what the remnants look like.
@michaelcoggins2247Ай бұрын
@@outboardst.comoutboardspec8631 Thanks Tyler, I anticipate picking the lower unit up from the shop this week and will send photos. Appreciate the help
@shaneshort5071Ай бұрын
Does the bushing that's in the center of the shaft have a crack in it? Is that bushing supposed to be solid all the way around
@armandgaudet7817Ай бұрын
Réel good
@seansylva3473Ай бұрын
I'm rebuilding my SHOWA trim and tilt following this video and it's extremely helpful. During the process of rebuilding I had a leave my parts on my bench, and believe it or not, I think a mouse stole one of the pins from the spring and ball bearing piston as they were loose on a paper town on the bench. There were mouse dropping on the bench (old house joys). Does anyone know where I can get the pins that go inside the springs that sit on the ball bearings. I had everything I needed to reassemble, now I don't. Thanks in advance.
@AlfactorsАй бұрын
I don't get how that Middle nut that holds the motor doesn't break when you turn with it. Having no play in it
@JAMMTOOLSАй бұрын
I'm a mobile guy in Florida, and I'm always looking for ways to make it easier to get those damn carriers out to replace the seals. Just ordered one, excited to try it out. like the fact that it doesnt crack & chip the carriers inner lip.
@outboardst.comoutboardspec8631Ай бұрын
Thanks very much for your order, and we have had excellent results in our shop as well as with customers with this puller.
@melstewart3310Ай бұрын
Thank you for this. My issue was the yellow trim tilt/starter 20 amp fuse. Traced 12 volts to solenoid which was a bit of a red herring since it showed 12 volts at positive connector. But, using the spare 20amp fuse everything worked. Of course the outstanding issues is why did the fuse blow in the first instance. Thanks though.
@outboardst.comoutboardspec8631Ай бұрын
Agree, that something likely smoked the fuse in the first place, and on Yamaha, fuses just up and blowing themselves out for no reason is exceptionally rare
@hugomoratillo8453Ай бұрын
Your tool removed the bearing carrier and prop shaft together. Why? was that necessary? can we just removed the bearing carrier to replace the prop shaft oil seal? Thank you
@outboardst.comoutboardspec8631Ай бұрын
Yes, that is correct, OST-0024 will pull the entire assembly from the prop shaft back, because that's how I designed it. There are some pullers that will pull only the carrier, but we do not make or sell them.
@tdahl7923Ай бұрын
So i ran aground, my trim would go up, but the motor sounded like the battery was very low. Now it won't go either direction, but I can hear a click from the relay. I had to loosen the manual release to get it out of the water. I'm thinking it jammed the check valve. It's a 2004 Suzuki DF225. Great video! Thanks
@outboardst.comoutboardspec8631Ай бұрын
Given your description of the relay/trim motor, I would isolate the trim motor and relay and test them. If the trim motor is original to the motor from 2004, that is a very long service life, especially if primary use is in salt water. Overall, given the impact, I would definitely want to do some diagnostic tear down to inspect the internals. Running aground can definitely cause some issues with the hydraulics.
@tdahl7923Ай бұрын
So i ran aground, my trim would go up, but the motor sounded like the battery was very low. Now it won't go either direction, but I can hear a click from the relay. I had to loosen the manual release to get it out of the water. I'm thinking it jammed the check valve. It's a 2004 Suzuki DF225. Great video! Thanks
@carmencastillejo3772 ай бұрын
Muchas gracias por el video fue de gran ayuda
@outboardst.comoutboardspec8631Ай бұрын
De nada, espero que todo se fue bien con el arreglamiento
@TheDaveGH2 ай бұрын
looks good... but you do mention you replaced the seals first. How do we know those are gone? (I assume leaking, etc). Mine is quite low, will just filling help the situation? Not sure how to empty (purge). The other thing thats a bit confusing is you say turn to starboard... then move motor by hand? thx
@PatrickCobb-kh5hd2 ай бұрын
I'm having trouble breaking the retaining ring out any suggestions?
@davidgstanley96732 ай бұрын
Question- putting the lever on neutral, I for got to do that before lowering lower half, did it before installing. Is it ok, or is it a problem? Thanks
@outboardst.comoutboardspec86312 ай бұрын
It shouldnt be a problem. If the shift rods are out of alignment, they won't couple at all. So if the controls and midsection shift rod are in gear and the lower is in neutral, it should be impossible to install the lower because the splines would not line up and they would bind before you could ever get the lower casing seated to start turning bolts. On some Yamaha's the mid section shift rod has a good bit of space to move side to side, so it is possible to install some lowers and bolt them into place without the shift rods even being linked together. In this instance, it would be possible to install a lower set to neutral on a mid section that was left in gear. The easiest way to verify correct installation is, after bolting the lower on, shift into forward then reverse and go spin the prop by hand, it should lock into place if in gear, then once back in neutral the prop should spin freely.
@ShnatzJr2 ай бұрын
my F90 trim is getting stuck right when it switches from trim to tilt ( the part where it speeds up ) and sometimes it will go up and sometimes it wont, its acting like its getting stuck. ive replaced the electric motor on it already but that didn't seem to help any
@outboardst.comoutboardspec86312 ай бұрын
The trim motor is usually not the cause for this type of problem. You will likely need to take the unit apart, clean out the old fluid, clean the internal parts and replace seals and o-rings. What you are describing is common for a unit the has lost some fluid, or has some debris hanging out where it shouldn't and causing the unit to not be able to build pressure and hold pressure reliably.
@ShnatzJr2 ай бұрын
@@outboardst.comoutboardspec8631 thanks for the reply 👍
@ANDYYSHAWW1182 ай бұрын
How does it pull it off? Would tsis work on a 125hp mercury sorry if this is a silly question, im having a night mare trying to remove the baring carrier on my 125hp mercury and your vid makes this look simple. I need simple right now haha!
@outboardst.comoutboardspec86312 ай бұрын
Our puller should be a fit for Merc. You can email me a photo of the lower at [email protected] and I can verify if needed.
@michaelpinkston7682 ай бұрын
I have a skeeter bass boat and I don’t see a port on my steering column?
@outboardst.comoutboardspec86312 ай бұрын
Some Skeeters have a remote fluid fill on the console. It would look like a small black cap about the size of a Quarter that would be flush mounted into the console usually above the steering wheel. There are a ton of bass boats that use a remote fluid fill because of having to fit the helm pump into pretty tight spaces.
@michaelpinkston7682 ай бұрын
@@outboardst.comoutboardspec8631 thanks I’ll look again. I didn’t see anything that resembled any removable anything but will look again.
@jonathanmarin61232 ай бұрын
Thank you for the help!!
@outboardst.comoutboardspec86312 ай бұрын
All good, hope you are back up and running!
@josepelliccia98622 ай бұрын
U need to put the oil in the time blending u getting empty the system more air😢🤔
@user-dz9sc2ph7y2 ай бұрын
Why no say left or right
@pierrecheverry3632 ай бұрын
Merci pour ta vidéo cela m as bien servis pour faire le mien
@andrevanheerden49362 ай бұрын
The best tutorial on PTT seal replacement there is. Thank you sir.
@squadupadventures46703 ай бұрын
where did you buy the seals from and was it in a kit?
@darki_lures3 ай бұрын
Thx you I will change the hole system.
@godfather13173 ай бұрын
Hi, great vids and tools tha ks for sharing. Quick question. My transom is not open like in this video. Is there a way to remove the support rod from the tilt tube without having to lift the engine of the mounts? What are my options here? Leave the old support rod in place?
@outboardst.comoutboardspec86313 ай бұрын
You can definitely leave the existing rod in place in nearly all cases. Best case scenario is that the old support rod is still able to slide back and forth so that you can clean and grease the exposed sections of the rod before re-assembly but even a less better case scenario of the support rod being completely seized into the tilt tube, I've had good results over the years by removing the support brackets, cleaning and resurfacing them completely, and going back together with a heavy marine grease. The critical issue is that the support brackets must be able to rotate and move independently of each other on the support rod as the cylinder goes through its entire range of motion. In the vent that the support rod is seized, and you end up needing to replace it, for whatever reason, in addition to swinging the motor with a shop hoist/cherry picker, you'll also end up replacing the tilt tube, unless you are much luckier than I've been. Because when the tilt tube and support rod become one piece, I had zero luck torching them to get them apart, and there is no solvent that will work either.
@sharpiehawkes71763 ай бұрын
Surprised no one fills the jumper tube with oil before connecting... empty (air filled) tube introduces more air to be purged
@outboardst.comoutboardspec86313 ай бұрын
Yes, that's definitely true, and definitely will add job time to remove the additional air. This is something that didnt cross my mind back when I created this tool, but after working with it for a while I realized the same thing and posted short video on how to prime the Cylinder Attachment before connecting it to a steering system and adding a bunch of air. Definitely makes the job go faster. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/g8yEhMVitczeg6s.html
@edtegge91423 ай бұрын
Question: at time 25:57 you state the flat side of the inner seals should face up, away from the cylinder. However, at time 28:16 the three inner seals are installed with the flat sides down facing into the cylinder. Which way is right?
@outboardst.comoutboardspec86313 ай бұрын
the cap I'm working on at the 28 min mark +/- a few seconds is the tilt cap and the outer/wiper seal on the tilt cap does have the flat facing down into the cylinder. For the trim caps, the flat side of the inner seal should face the sky on final assembly. and the trim cap wipers will only install one way.
@Cherishthemoment3 ай бұрын
There is a tool for removing the retaining ring, just saying, a little risky drilling….
@outboardst.comoutboardspec86313 ай бұрын
Oh for sure there are many tools for the retainers, and I have to use a retainer wrench to reinstall the new retainer during re-assembly. The reason I usually always drill the retainers out is that once the salt water builds up some corrosion on the bottom/skeg side of the retaining ring, it will often deform the ring out of round to the point that most retaining ring tools won't even fit the ring and the scale deposit itself isnt going away peacefully. We go into some detail on this at the 3:18 mark. If the retaining ring goes out of round with a wedge of scale between the inner bore of the casing and the outer threads of the ring, it only comes out one way: in pieces.
@darki_lures3 ай бұрын
Hi and thanks for sharing your experiance , i have the "problem" on my 115 PS suzuki ouboard with Baystar Hydraulik streering. By standing still everything is good, streering in both direction is smooth and very easy. But when im on mmy way and drive just slowly then the steering to the left is much "harder" then to the right. Is this normal ? because of the Prop? but ist ist that big differents between steering left and right? more faster i go more difficult to steer left. Greetings from Germany
@outboardst.comoutboardspec86313 ай бұрын
Sorry late reply, yes, there is definitely torque coming off the prop that will put feedback/force on the steering cylinder, but there are valves in the helm pump that should always lock out and prevent feedback coming from the motor and cylinder. If the valves in the helm are malfunctioning, they can and will allow feedback, which you will feel at the wheel, especially when you are under way, and also a malfunctioning set of valves can allow easy steering in one direction but very difficult in the other direction. An easy test to confirm: engine off, boat is either trailered or tied up/not moving. Turn the wheel in both directions, if it moves easily with engine off/boat stationary, then you have some level of confirmation that the feedback lock out function of the helm is not working properly. Also, if you are turning the wheel in both direction, again, the boat is stationary, and the steering is easy in one direction but very high resistance in the opposite direction, it is highly likely that the internal valves on the helm are causing the problem.
@jfrrodway82353 ай бұрын
Brilliant. Thank you.
@outboardst.comoutboardspec86313 ай бұрын
Thanks for checking us out!
@userok2093 ай бұрын
great video thank you. what was that blue hose ?
@outboardst.comoutboardspec86313 ай бұрын
Pex tubing with 5/8" interior diameter. Its a bit of overkill for most jobs, but really helpful with the stubborn/corroded ones where slippage is more likely.
@bowang87473 ай бұрын
Do you know how to turn the thing that's under the purge valve? Right now, the hose thing that's below the purge is in the way of the fitting and I want to move it just slightly horizontal so I can pop in the fitting.
@outboardst.comoutboardspec86313 ай бұрын
I'm very late getting to your question and apologize for the delay. I'm guessing here, but sounds like you are referring to the hose fittings. On older cylinders the hose fittings are NPT thread and should only be turned counter clockwise, and then re tightened. On most SeaStar cylinder after about 2013 they started using ORB fittings which can be loosened and adjusted as needed to any position.
@campbel8273983 ай бұрын
Great video! I’m doing this on my Mercury Verado this weekend. This helped me out a lot. Thanks man!
@outboardst.comoutboardspec86313 ай бұрын
Awesome and thanks for visiting us!
@archiehendricks60933 ай бұрын
That tube going thru moter mount, would been better if had a sert fitting for marine grease, just thought
@outboardst.comoutboardspec86313 ай бұрын
I agree 100%!
@sergiolopez56524 ай бұрын
Where can i order the seals and how much $$$$$
@outboardst.comoutboardspec86313 ай бұрын
Boats.net or any SeaStar BayStar dealer should stock the seal kits. Sorry for the forever delay responding to your question