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@jamesmiller4184 16 күн бұрын
Yep! By crackee, thats the wai she wuz, bac in th dai!
@TaijanDean 21 күн бұрын
Wow! I never knew those amberolas were so loud and clear. Makes my 1903 Model A Standard sound tinny in comparison.
@thenorthamericanphonograph1039 21 күн бұрын
In general, many many reproducers are not restored correctly, when I used to go to the Union show, I would ask to hear a machine, it was low volume and tinny, and these were supposedly rebuilt. I know two others who are very good at reproducer rebuild, but most are not good at all. I do local reproducer rebuilding of Edison reproducers, but I do not do mail order, I also do Victor Exhibitions, and No. 2 . In general all moving parts must move freely, the gaskets must be soft, the diaphragm must be centered, and the retaining ring, just seals, and makes it air tight, any more, and they sound tinny, and low volume.
@Edwin48100 27 күн бұрын
Sounds pretty good for a diamond disc dub.
@raymondny123 Ай бұрын
if you don’t mind me asking, how long have you guys been married for? ❤
@thenorthamericanphonograph1039 Ай бұрын
2 years
@SamHarrisonMusic 2 ай бұрын
I hope someone is making HQ transfers of these cylinders! How clear this is, and how much potential it could be cleaned up it has :) Probs with AI you could make it feel like he was in the room with you, who knows!
@Mario_DiSanto 2 ай бұрын
Very cool. Thanks for the upload
@bonaldisillico 2 ай бұрын
Wonderful!
@tedrobinson372 2 ай бұрын
The dubbed Blue Amberols are called Damberols.
@thenorthamericanphonograph1039 2 ай бұрын
In Englald Damberols.
@pauly260 2 ай бұрын
It’s amazing knowing how bad the recording equipment was back then that this is that clear. You truly recorded a piece of history.
@GeorgeTheGentleman 2 ай бұрын
DUDE! It’s awesome to see you uploading again! Nice cylinder! Also, I wanted to ask about some blanks if you still sell them.
@thenorthamericanphonograph1039 2 ай бұрын
I sell them on ebay salesnortha_74 is my store, I am starting again making them now it is spring. You can't make them properly when it is cold. Where i am living, I do not make them inside.
@GeorgeTheGentleman 2 ай бұрын
@@thenorthamericanphonograph1039 thank you sir
@Ecksterphono 2 ай бұрын
I have Billy Murray's cylinder version. Great video
@jaimeperezmoreno6561 3 ай бұрын
This guy kinda sound like Les Claypool
@jonathansmith2168 5 ай бұрын
Where could I buy some of your cylinders?
@thenorthamericanphonograph1039 5 ай бұрын
Ebay salesnortha_74 I am in the Philippines until mid march. We will be molding blanks when it is warmer.
@sneedsfeedandseed7777 10 ай бұрын
i keep all my broken cylinders in hopes that i can melt them down and re mold them into a new record. do you think this would work?
@Kennephone 11 ай бұрын
Great machine and great impression. I imagine the real cal stuart probably sounded similar to you in real life. Another thing, please don't bring politics into this hobby, we're all here to have fun, not to debate.
@phonoboy6578 11 ай бұрын
Great disc.
@digidoridvideos3672 Жыл бұрын
It sounds like crap. Try dipping the wax cylinders in vinegar. maybe that will remove the mold.
@richblake3491 Жыл бұрын
Hi could I buy this record
@thenorthamericanphonograph1039 Жыл бұрын
Brown wax cylinders
@recordsnphonographs7263 Жыл бұрын
Where can I purchase one
@thenorthamericanphonograph1039 Жыл бұрын
Salesnortha_74 all small case on eBay.
@joshjustjosh9489 Жыл бұрын
It’s a shame the demand for these is too small to justify mass production expenses.
@henryjames2484 Жыл бұрын
Did you ever use any of the broken cylinders I sent you?
@phonoboy6578 Жыл бұрын
Interesting stuff.
@leroyjones6958 Жыл бұрын
Mr. Borri does the BEST Uncle Josh ever!🥸
@leroyjones6958 Жыл бұрын
The title of this classic short screenplay is "Valencia!" This is now a cult classic.
@paulmanganaro5882 Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed your video. Up to now, I had never understood how the cylinder came away from the mold back in the day. Your work looks amazing!
@8avexp Жыл бұрын
I remember those Big Orange cars. They had separate smoking and non-smoking compartments.
@Filmandmusicdegenerate Жыл бұрын
Got a website link?
@thenorthamericanphonograph1039 Жыл бұрын
I sell on Ebay, and sometimes on my North American Phonograph Co. Facebook page. I only sell what I make. As you see the process is slow, and it is a hobby business.
@peterpoggi Жыл бұрын
I was trying to make Blue Amberol boxes, but couldn't find a source for the cardboard tubes in the correct ID and OD. Are you making your own sleeves as well?
@thenorthamericanphonograph1039 Жыл бұрын
The boxes were made by the Acme Spirally Wound Paper Products company. I sent them an Edison Wax Amberol box, and this is what they came up with, that is pretty close, they could not do the rolled over circle top like the Amberol, so it is a 3 piece box with the slide over ring, and has caps like an Edison moulded record. www.acmespiral.com/
@thenorthamericanphonograph1039 Жыл бұрын
What I would like to see is the nice blue, Gold and White boxes of the early Blue Amberol, that would be sharp.
@umcvfd Жыл бұрын
@@thenorthamericanphonograph1039 Problem I found is that the minimum order quantity was around $1,000. That's alot to spend on speculation that enough hobbyists would want to purchase them. What I HAVE been able to do is make the blue top covers out of 110 lb cardstock using a pattern I made on my wife's Cricut Maker machine.
@thenorthamericanphonograph1039 Жыл бұрын
@@umcvfd They must have changed that now, It was by pieces 500 or 1000 pieces. I order not assembled, maybe that has something to do with it.
@TaijanDean 2 жыл бұрын
This sounds awesome. When / where is this movie going to be released?
@phonoboy6578 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting.
@peterpoggi 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! I found your web page, but no links are evident. Is Chrome incompatible with your website?
@thenorthamericanphonograph1039 Жыл бұрын
More of the Editing factor, does not quite work anymore with most modern chrome, Firefox ect. I started the website at least 2000, but it might have been as early as 1997-98! I have a video from 1997 showing some cylinders for Union from that year, though I was not using my own blanks at that time.
@peterpoggi Жыл бұрын
@@thenorthamericanphonograph1039 Let me know if you want some help getting the website working. I am certainly not an expert, but do have a little bit of experience with websites.
@surfraptor 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the info. Am working on a HMV 102 I bought at the local dump for 65 euros. Cheers from Holland. I just managed to get the cleaned spring back in without injuries. :-)
@agarso 2 жыл бұрын
You should invest in an inexpensive tripod for your phone, it'll vastly improve the watchability, audio is just fine!
@Musique3579 2 жыл бұрын
Tip: To reduce the "hollow sound" of duplicating a cylinder using the tube method, try stuffing some muffle (cotton) into the very top of the recorders opening and experiment. Line the inside of the tube with something thin and soft. Much of that hollow sound CAN be reduced. Anything to "absorb" that hollow quality. Yes, the record won't be as loud, but it also will not be so "raw sounding" either.
@Musique3579 2 жыл бұрын
Cir. 1988. I came across 6 Edison Cylinder Records that had never been opened. (Probably the 1st of the 2 minute Black Wax.) The boxes were Gray with a paper label showing Edison as well as having fancy words. (Not really all that colorful.) With lid off, there was a tremendous amount of white badding to cushion the record. The outside covering to all was a thin transparent sepia toned cellophane of some type. The Black Cylinder had no lettering on the rim. The PRIZE was in the middle of the cylinder. A GLORIOUS label of Blue and GOLD with Edison's photo and seen as it looked 80+++ years earlier BRAND NEW VIVID. (This label was meant to be affixed to the Cylinder Box lid.) And playing a Cylinder for the 1st time ever since leaving the factory? ASTOUNDING!!!!!!!!!! Smooth, click free. Clear as could be. Only 2 were ever opened. I have no idea what became of the other 4. Several moves shortly after and they were vanished.
@thenorthamericanphonograph1039 2 жыл бұрын
The first Edison moulded records look similar to a brown wax, with the flat end, and just Edison's signature, raised lettering and a faint record number scratched in after the grooves, most are brown wax numbers and some into the mid 8,000 record number. These are not easy to find, and were made mostly from 1902-1904, by 1904 they were starting to do the round title end, and made both kinds until about 1905, titled and non titled. The non titled records took one minute more to mold than the titled records. I almost never use tube to tube copying, that was just for demonstration, and it was only used in North American era when records were usually listened to with listening tubes. Normally use a high quality 3 way Sony car stereo speaker into a horn made of poster board, this hooked to a Marantz 2235 and to the computer I have the selections EQ with the frequency loss compensated for.
@Musique3579 2 жыл бұрын
@@thenorthamericanphonograph1039 Thanks. YES, I remember that about the lettering. (It is hard to remember back to the mid 1980's.) LOL PS: Flat end BA Cylinders are the best of all. (The plaster core is colored too.) These were the "live" recordings. After the 1914 fire? Dubbed from the Diamond Disk. It should have been the other way around.
@Musique3579 2 жыл бұрын
I have always held the Brunswick in the highest regard as a top A+ instrument machine. The 3-way playback Reproducer is suburb in every way, In fact, the Brunswick plays an Edison Diamond Disk Record better then an Edison machine. Luckily, Brunswick was not cheap with the dia. of the Reproducers. In short, a good Brunswick is a Cadillac.
@Musique3579 2 жыл бұрын
I have done that too, using clear or black rubber tubing. (Copper connectors at ea. phonograph.) I have wondering of how to *up the volume* when making a duplicate. // Idea #1: imagine a membrane in the middle of the tube filled with water. (Water amplifies sound.) The seal would have to be air tight of course. // Idea #2: Use one of those mouth blasting horns that people use to be heard outdoors to crowds. For this, use two horns and hold the blast horn for the duration of the record. bty: How WONDERFUL that NEW CUTTERS with the "indent" are available. Fantastic!
@Musique3579 2 жыл бұрын
I have come across the "Snowflake" problem on cylinders from time to time. I never had a shaving machine, so discovered a different way to make a successful blank. Have the cylinder to be cleared of grooves at the same temperature as some gasoline. Dampen a rag with the gas and wipe down the cylinder to "groove free." Take a nice cotton rag (T shirt) and polish to a nice shine. New recordings I have made are actually quite good all things considered.
@thenorthamericanphonograph1039 2 жыл бұрын
I did that when I was learning to record, it works, I used lamp oil, but it does the same thing.
@thenorthamericanphonograph1039 2 жыл бұрын
The snow flake I show in the video is not mold, from moisture, as found on original blanks that have been kept in humid environments, but rather a separation of materials when cooling in the mould. These are not blanks from the 1890's but ones made recently, ones I made, and rejected, they are not made from old broken records, but rather from raw materials.
@Musique3579 2 жыл бұрын
@@thenorthamericanphonograph1039 Thank you very much. I have learned much from your great channel. Appreciated! :-)
@Musique3579 2 жыл бұрын
Wow. I had *no idea* that any cream colored 5" dia. Concert Cylinders even existed! What a prize! No doubt live recorded at least 8 years before Mapleson recorded his improved "much darker brown wax" Cylinder Records live at the Met. (1900-1903.)
@Ecksterphono 2 жыл бұрын
How about making cylinders using colophony resin ( pine resin) mixed with paraffin wax from an old recipe book by Bottone ( forgotten books ). The writings also cover chalk cylinder batteries, heat cells etc. In his book "The phonograph and how to construct it" Gillet touches on this recipe in making phonograph cylinders.
@thenorthamericanphonograph1039 Жыл бұрын
I have read that one, and another that uses Burgandy pitch, I have not made those formulas, as the ingredients are too expensive to make on a commercial scale. I made special cylinders of stearic acid, beeswax, ceresin, and carnauba wax for Edison's 1887 and 1888 pre-perfected phonographs on display on the 3rd floor, near the Music room in Edison's Laboratory at West Orange.
@ronhummel9298 2 жыл бұрын
I have a nice Universal BB Carbon Mic and I am getting some output, but lots of crackling and super distortion when screamed into. I am using 9vdc on it. Was wondering if you could tell me if I was doing something wrong if I sent you an audio sample?
@thenorthamericanphonograph1039 2 жыл бұрын
The best voltage 3v more causes crackling. It is also low impedance. For best performance a transformer is needed.
@ronhummel9298 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for that knowledge....maybe 9vdc was too much then. I will try again with a 3vdc battery and add a tranny.
@josiahdittman9365 2 жыл бұрын
where do you get phonograph springs?
@thenorthamericanphonograph1039 Жыл бұрын
You can get new phonograph Springs from Brian Parler The Phonograph shop in North Carolina.
@zinckensteel 2 жыл бұрын
How do you play a Diamond Disc on a modern turn table? Special stylus?
@thenorthamericanphonograph1039 2 жыл бұрын
This turn table is specifically designed for transfer work, It is a Rek-O-Kut CVS Restoration deck , and can play up to 93 RPM . It has a switch for vertical playback, that changes the polarity, you put your audio recording program in mono, and then you only have the vertical signal eliminating side groove noise. I then used a reverse RIAA curve to have a flat transcription, and then saved the flat version, next I added some bass warmth in the 150-250 cps range to give a little presence. This particular record plays well with a standard .7 mil LP stylus but a 1 mil might be better, a 78rpm 3 mil is too big for the Diamond disc groove, it is microgroove at 150tpi.
@seaquest8 2 жыл бұрын
Outstanding information not easily found elsewhere! Thank you for these videos.
@jacobosborne6996 2 жыл бұрын
I won't pretend to understand this entire process but as a fan of vinyl/lacquer records; god bless you for this work. It's always a joy to see someone keeping their craft alive
@Troupee-Lennon 2 жыл бұрын
An excellent voice recording I couldn't tell the difference of Uncle Josh Cal Stewart and you you have him off to T.. Troupee. 😄👍👍🎷🎅🎅🍺🍺🎅🎅
@julietcunningham852 2 жыл бұрын
Why on earth are you trying to resurrect cylinders? That technology was superceded by my great grandfather, Emile Berliner, with his invention of the disc record and lateral cut method.
@thenorthamericanphonograph1039 2 жыл бұрын
While I do collect 78rpm records, and find Emile Berliners method fascinating, and an important part of the music industry . The early acoustically recorded lateral discs, had a hard time going past about 2,600 cycles per second, while even an 1889 cylinder sometimes hits 4, 000 and 6,000 cps. Some later cylinders can reach 10,000 cps. Even a 1950's Rek-O Kut disc recording lathe, had a limit of 10,000 cps, so you do not burn up the head. To record a lateral disc properly you need to boost the upper frequencies 16 DB, for lateral recording, and reduce the bass the same. To play back this is reversed, called the RIAA curve. With vertical recording you can record the sound flat, and it has the high frequency clarity, with a slight increase of 3db in the 5-20K range.
@Troupee-Lennon 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic demonstration very well spoken great knowledge outstanding video. Troupee. 😁👍👍🎷🎅🎅🍺🍺
@fernbear3950 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent, thanks for sharing. Really appreciate the content that you put out! I came here after the eponymous Scallon video, absolutely subscribed! :D
@thenorthamericanphonograph1039 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome, that was a fun video, making the heavy metal cylinders. The supremacist Collectors, snobbishly said, "not my kind of music" That was the reaction from the coffee table book makers, and archivists. With that recent attitude, I did not renew my APS membership. I Was a MAPS member since the 1990's.