@@Sheeple-Wake-Up you will still get good results that's not what my issue is here. The issue is companies selling re-bottled tattoo ink at a premium.

You always want a long taper for SMP

hilarious how @hdhairlines can take the time necessary to make the video and reply to ALL THE OTHER COMMENTS EXCEPT THE MOST IMPROTAANT ONE. lol. I SMELL A RAT

Hey, I am now based in burscough. If you would like to contact me directly send over some pictures on Whatsapp and I can let you know pricing. +44 7432 859488

@@hdhairlines do they do SMP in Crosby coronation road

@@paulmckay1824 I was based there for a while, but I have now moved. The studio there doesn't do SMP no.

I hope this helped you 😊 more to come very soon!

Glad to have helped you 💯 the full training will be available here over the next few weeks

No but I have tried silver back and kuro sumi

@@hdhairlines hows Kuro sumi? 🤔

It won't make much of a difference, it will be slightly lighter but shouldn't be too noticeable. This is just my preference and a starting point for anyone that wants to try it. After you get comfortable with it I am sure you will put your own stamp on it. For African - Caribbean I would start with 30 drops for a first session and then see if you want to go full black there after.

This transformation cost £1200

Really!? Then if this is the case the same would apply for "SMP" ink. In your opinion what is the difference between SMP ink and tattoo ink?

@@hdhairlines Yes it does apply to SMP pigment as well. I have just been researching this and have talked to SMP pigment manufacturers about these ingedients not listed. I have only been looking at carbon black. The carbon used for both is the same, though quality will differ depending on the manufacturing and treatment process. It's the carrier that differs. For traditional tattoo inks, they contain other ingredients such as polymers for viscosity and pigment dispersement , pH modifiers, anti-foaming agents and wetting agents, alcohol, some even contained formaldehyde! The ingredients will vary from manufacturer to manufacturer. It has only been in recent times that these ingredients and their affect on the body have been studied. SMP pigments contain an alcohol, glycerine (for viscosity), witch hazel (hamamelis) for diluting and some will contain menthol as well. So the carriers of SMP pigment does not contain the same chemicals as traditional inks. The scalp tissue is different to the skin of the rest of the body due to the amount of structures in the dermis and their functions. Also traditional tattooing causes a much greater degree of trauma to the skin than SMP which changes how the ink/pigment is stored within the dermis. (Macrophages and fibroblasts).

I think this is a debate that will go on for years but tattoo inks contain those same ingredients as carriers. Everything that you are saying here still isn't any solid proof to say they are different as each manufacturer will use different ingredients. Most black tattoo inks are made up of carbon, alcohol, water and some use witch hazel. It's madness to me because I have been using this ink for 5 years now on clients and only getting good results, many have been back for top ups so I have seen the healed results over time.

@@hdhairlines Yes it is a debate that will go on :) and tattoo inks can contain the same ingredients in their carriers however they also contain other chemicals as well, which is my point. As for using it on the scalp, if you have had success with it, great. I would just be careful training new artist with it.

Your local tattoo supplier

3-4 all depends on the color you want to create

@@hdhairlines aww.. thanks for the fast reply! 👍🏻

25-30 drops

@@hdhairlines thank you appreciate it Sir

I have never used it myself but yes it wouldn't be an issue. But as it's a stronger black ink you would need to work out the best mixing ratios

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Hey, Thanks for bringing that to my attention. I have since looked this up and you are correct it does have acrylic polymer as an ingredient that isn't listed on the bottle. So the dynamic ink will be more stable in the skin over a longer period of time is what you are saying?

@@hdhairlines Yes, although there are several factors that will affect this- Placement in the skin is one. Upper layer of the dermis, the papillary layer, will allow some of the ink particles to migrate through the basal layer to the epidermis and this will slough away. Also, superficial ink is degraded by UV exposure and other external, lifestyle, and environmental impacts. Needle size, ink dilution, and space between dots also play a part in retention. Our body sees ink particles as foreign objects and is constantly trying to remove it so clients with efficient immune systems and active lymphatic activity may also see faster fading. This added retention is good for clients in one respect, but bad in others. It won’t require as many top-ups, so over-saturation can be avoided but, in the case where fading, or removal in part, or whole, is required, it will mean many more sessions. Obviously, this would be a problem in the case of a botched, or bad procedure, but also for those just wanting a hairline adjustment, or fading dude to greying or further thinning. In my opinion, for the reasons above, the original inks without binding agents are best for SMP procedures and there are many of these out there - many with binders though, so worth checking the SDS (Safety Data Sheets) because, as we’d know, they don’t always list these on the bottle. Hope that all makes sense - just my opinion, of course🤗

@@LaserExpert I do appreciate that option but I would argue that when done correctly there is no need for ink without the binding agent. Clients want long lasting results and we still do see enough fading that it's not a problem for greying in my experience. I have also spoken first hand with tattoo ink companies and know for a fact that certain brands do sell to SMP companies wholesale to rebrand as SMP ink, so that is something to take into consideration that a lot of these "SMP ink" are just re packaged tattoo ink for the most part. For me dynamic is great for SMP as it give long lasting results and as you touched on this reduces the chances of over saturation which is one of the main reasons for SMP looking bad/botched down the road. I do really appreciate your insights on this maybe we can connect some time and talk more I always feel it's beneficial to get another perspective in this developing industry.

@@hdhairlines in an ideal world, that would be the perfect scenario, every time, with every tattoo, but I specialise in removal of SMP, as well as all other tattoo forms and I see clients for SMP removal, on an almost daily basis, for a wide range of reasons, not just botched jobs, and for treatment on procedures carried out by extremely skilled and experienced practitioners: Minor imperfections, hairlines too low, or not quite correct, and hairline adjustments for those who have aged since having it done is very common. Procedures that are too dark or fade unevenly is also a frequent problem, hair that has thinned revealing more ink, new transplants making the SMP look too obvious, those who no longer want to trim their hair so frequently and, one of the most common requests is by those who decide they simply don’t want it any more. Not to mention the botched jobs, and I’ve treated these by some of the best in the world. I treat clients who’ve had permanent body art tattoos, permanent makeup, and SMP, and in every case, they start out with no intention of having it removed. I see this from the perspective of both SMP practitioner, and we have 3 other cosmetic tattooists in our clinic, but also as a laser practitioner and the laser removal business is so big, because nothing stays the same - people change, their circumstances change, their opinions change, and they age - fashions change, tattoo ink integrity decreases, and for all of these reasons there’s a good chance that even a good tattoo will need reviewing so, unless there’s zero chance that they might want it faded, adjusted, or removed, and this would never be for 100% of clients, 100% of the time, I believe ink without binding agents are the best option.

@@hdhairlines yes, all SMP ink is ‘white label’, there is no clinic that is manufacturing their own ink and most of the time the practitioner/trainer has no real knowledge of the difference binding agents can have, or even that it’s an ingredient. If they do, they probably haven’t considered the downside. Yes, great to connect - I’ve been following you for some time - I’m a big fan of soft hairlines and your work with this is great👊🏻

It sure is 👌

Yes I do! here is the link www.thesmpmentor.com/masterclass

Thanks! Look forward to learn more from your technique 🙌

My pleasure 😁

both exactly the same

@@hdhairlines thanks bro🙏

Yeah 💯 dynamic is no different than any other black ink. If you add the modifier it will warm it up 👍

nice one ray thanks for the amazing contribution🙄

@@hdhairlines 🤣 sorry mate

almost any tattoo suppliers its dynamic tattoo ink

no we never use it, but sometimes clients will buy it and apply it themselves. join my facebook group where you can ask more questions directly. facebook.com/groups/364810892459311/

this is dynamic ink and dynamic mixing solution

yes 3RL. you can join my facebook group for more help facebook.com/groups/364810892459311/

yes 3RL

Hey, check back later today and I will have the link fixed for you to download 😃

Hey, yes you can use the grey wash set. What shade you choose will depend on how dark your clients skin and hair is.

@@hdhairlines thank you sooo much!!😘😘

If for Asian, you will recommend use 60 or 80 of the gray wash?

Blow outs are caused by going too deep in the skin so as long as it is done properly then no you won't have a blow outs.

Yeah laser is the best option and costs very

Hey sorry to hear that. It definitely has audio maybe just bad connection 🤷

@@hdhairlines I watched a 2nd time and the audio was good. My bad. :)

Hey, it definitely works but with the hair shaved you probably wouldn't tell the guys have blonde hair. I have had guys in their 70s with white hair have SMP it definitely works. If you are local you can always contact us directly and come in for a chat

@@hdhairlines I am not local, my friend. Based on your accent, you are likely 6 hours (by plane) away - I am Canadian. I am just scared. God willing, I will be less scared after I visit a local clinic tonight.

Thank you ☺️

We don't do stretch mark tattooing so I can't really comment on this sorry

So 2 reasons. 1. Is the company selling the "SMP pigment" wants the artist to believe this because SMP pigment cost a lot more and they benefit from this 2. The artist has been taught this and fully believes there is a difference.

Sorry for the later reply. Yeah if it doesn't hurt then it's not being done correctly. SMP is 100% a tattoo it's just not as Intense as a traditional tat, but the skin is still being broken. Happy to hear you had a good experience and enjoy the new look

Hey, I use killer beauty SMP needles. 3RL 0.30, 3RL 0.25 and 3RL 0.22. hope this helps

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