@@johnfinch5522 I couldn’t decide what color to make it have a friend that did black and it looks amazing. Red looks good too. But I decided to keep it looking more factory stock and hit it with high temp silver and painted the letters red by hand.

@@alwaysaway69 the actual ignition switch is a cheap part getting it out requires some disassembly around the steering wheel remove plastic and there’s a large thing bolt holding the key in. See if you can find a parts diagram. 944online.com has them so you can see how it’s put together. As far as non crank that’s just troubleshooting. Start with battery then pull the starter and bench test it. If it cranks check that you have 12volts at starter from the big lead and 12v from the small lead on the solenoid. Sometimes just loosening bolts and cleaning the contacts is enough to get it going. Good luck and be careful especially careful under car. If you have concrete i normally use car ramps and wheel chocks to get the starter out. And remember neutral anytime testing starter. Good luck. Keep me posted and I’ll try and help.

Yes it was but I choose to have mine replaced with an updated F9 tech DME.

First of all congratulations on being a Porsche owner. That’s a dream of many that few realize. When I first get a car like that I normally start with a clean up. Wash and clean up the inside. Then I look at the engine for leaks for signs of problems. Other than that I take it very slow. Normally I keep the ground wire of the battery loose enough to remove by hand. Then I would only turn over briefly and off again. Don’t try and start it. I do that to check for weird noises. If you try and start it has is the issue. If gas was left in it’s probably gummed up but you can try. Only put a little because you may end up draining it. If it doesn’t start you can try some starter fluid sprayed in the intake. If it pops you have a spark. Beyond that take it slow and be very carefull it takes time to work out the bugs. Also don’t drive far if it does run. It could stall. My only other advise is to join triple AAA motor club for cheap tows if you have a problem. Good luck.

Actually that’s why I do this. If it helps someone I’m happy. Those vdo clocks are amazing after all this time still working.

Fuse box by foot wall

Clutch throw out bearing needs replacement. It only makes that noise when clutch pedal is depressed

What’s the question ? 944 fuel lines normally are on the other side so there’s easier access.

My lines run like yours do im early 1985 944 so its like yours. With start up im was gonna turn key to on just get fuel running to check for leaks if none i was gonna just start up let run to normal temp then test run.

Make sure you put a new gasket on the fuel sender cap. If it’s loose that could be why and you may end up with gas smell inside the car.

Uro makes one they sell for $15 on eBay fuel sender cap gasket

A couple things. A spark plug wire tester might help. Sounds like it could be the rotor or the distributor cap is bad. If it's old might be good to change it. If you have power at the coil, and the coil to the center of the distributor then the next line in command is the rotor. From memory I think there is a small, tiny little allen head bolt that secures that. If it's not tight or in the recieving hole it will just spin in place and you won't have spark. Pull the distributor cap off and look at that, should be secure, take it off and make sure. Other than that, back to the in-line spark testor to make sure you don't have spark at the plugs. Fresh plugs are also a good idea. If you have spark an not starting test for fuel issues by squirting starter fluid into the intake (close it back before testing). I hope this helps.

thanks I noticed they were hard to come by, so I made effort to get a decent view of it. Good luck. I need to do this again on my 924S.

There's another $10 option to test things, a remote starter. (Harbor Freight has them.) That would bypass the ignition system so you can check the starter. The other way to is make sure you have power on the positive side of the starter. Also check at the battery, There is a heavy wire that goes from battery direct to starter, that has be well connected to get it to turn over. Make sure you have good connection at starter sometimes those wires get water/corroded/rusted. I had a problem with electric cutting off and it was the positive big wire at starter not making contact. As always be very careful under-car work and starting in neutral etc. Ignition is the last thing I'd check but you can put a volt meter at the red wire of the solenoid and see if you're getting power there when you turn the key on. If no power maybe it's the ignition switch. 84 944 still have old vw style switches usually under $20 for new.

You are going to love it. Drive and enjoy.

@@tsarchitect definitely looking forward to it!

They came with the car. Not sure where you'd have to go get them.

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M2 13"-20" It fit well on my 87 944 wheel.

That usually works best for those who grew watching Fonzi on Happy Days.

I used an led I got off Amazon. Check eBay or Amazon or 944online. Ian at 944 online has them too. Depends if you have pre87 or late model as they went to digital clocks after that.

I ordered mine from 944online.com

Check power at the coil for 12volts on black wire. If when you turn key to on position and there’s no voltage there you have go backward from there. They make spark plug testers and you can put one between the coil and coil wire. Be careful because this is high volts. If you get in the car and see the light come on it’s after the coil. If no light check the two wires at the coil. It is possible to jump the coil to the battery by connecting the black wire side which is positive of the coil with two gator clips and a wire back to positive side. (Know that if the car starts it won’t shut off until you undo the wire) be very careful with the wire as it has 12 volts on it. Most likely you will get a spark if you connect the positive side of the coil to the battery. For ignition parts use good quality wires and a Bosch coil. I hope this helps.

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Could be you just got a bad alternator or it could be a wire connection issue. Have to make sure all those 30 year old wires are clean and not frayed. Sometimes they go brittle. If it works sometimes and other times not could be a bad regulator which is built into the alternator but can be replaced. It’s a small piece with the contacts ranges from 20 to $60 on eBay now. I changed mine one. New wires are $200. Hard to say exactly what the problem is but it could be wiring bad. Check at the battery too. A lot of wires on the positive side and they all have to make good contact.

@@schrockahasi Thanks, I'll check the connections, the turbo has lots of plumbing though..Thanks. 👍

@@Workerbee-zy5nx I recently had an issue with my 924 because the positive wire from battery to the starter was not makeing good contact. Wire to alternator goes from there. So battery to starter and from there to alternator. So if the alternator is not charging it could be under the car at that location positive cables 13mm bolt at starter. Take them off (disconnect the battery first ) and clean the contacts. Mine were rusty from being outside and put them back in. Wire brush or sandpaper till the are shiny and see if that helps.

@@schrockahasi thanks, 8 hr job to get to the alternator. 😬turbo plumbing, coolant tank, wiring, heat shields etc.🤯

@@Workerbee-zy5nx NA models is take off the air filter box and viola there’s the alternator. 1/2hr. But you have the bonus of owning a turbo which has huge appeal. So you solved the problem ?

I had a stall issue on the 944 and felt like it would be better to put in a new one. When i sold the 944 I kept the f9 and put it in my 924S

The relay is in the fuse box on the left side of the footwell. I had that problem for a while and it just went away. Pulling relay out and back in might help because it makes better contact. Could also be a flakey or sign of a failing sensor. Temperature changes and weather can effect these things. There’s so many switches it’s hard to troubleshoot

Sometimes starters do that before they fail. They give warning signs noise or intermittent starting issues. I’ve used autozone starters before with out issues they are cheap and guaranteed and there’s usually one nearby. I got the original bosch for one of my cars but really can’t tell the difference. Also a good idea to have the car in good tune so it starts instantly so there’s not and long load on the starter. If you are cranking a long time to get the car started it heats up and can cause issues. Starter is one of those essential peace of mind things when it’s new you don’t have to worry about it. It’s also a confidence issue that you know it will turn over and start so a battery and starter are normally two of the first things I replace on a restoration

@@schrockahasi When it crank it crank quickly, that's just sometimes it not crank at all. The starter is if I remember a BOSCH.

@@clemsbmx if it’s a Bosch it could be original that’s what they used. 30+ years is a lot of cranking. Change the starter with new but don’t return your original. If a new starter fixes the problem it’s done. If not see if you can return the starter and put the old one back on. Bench tests for starters aren’t always correct.

Fan did not kick on at all after a drive.

Thx. My low speed fan only works if AC is on, or temp hits 3rd mark, so I think I need to do this. Thanks for the demo @@schrockahasi

@@LACarDude you’re welcome. With these cars there’s always something but they are solid designs. Just need maintenance

Great job and congrats on getting your Porsche. Rubber parts on this car wear out first and this is one of them. Good luck.

You are welcome. I hope this helps.

Excellent points. What color did you paint them?

You have to take a flat head screw driver and pry them off but you have to be very careful because the pins can break off.

When it is the tube in the middle the dipstick gets stuck at the halfway point. If it’s the last few inches may just be a dry tube. Definitely look at the middle where I had the problem but yes just like if the oil cap is off you loose oil pressure and performance

@@schrockahasi Thanks man. My tube was indeed split in half just before the point the black tube connects to the engine block. Have taped it up for now as I think you'd need to remove a couple components to replace the tube at the base. There is also still resistance pushing it in the last couple of inches - not sure what causes this.

@@somerled5513 good to hear you found a problem spot. Last few inches I’m not sure. Mine went in ok once I got past the middle. I have another boxster and the dipstick gets sticky at the end but eventually goes in after a few tries. The dipstick is way too long on this car.

Thanks Al. Boxster is coming along nicely. Soon will be buzzing around Phoenix.

Ok. That’s tough to figure out but I always say when you have a problem consider what was the last thing you did before this happened. And if you cleaned your engine bay there’s a chance that water got down into the electricals of your starter. It’s also possible you have some shorts on your positive cables from the battery because the positive cable of the battery runs directly to the starter. There’s also one that runs to the alternator. So if either one of those is old and cracked it could have shorted. Aside from that there is a wire from battery to ignitions and ignition to the starter. It could be that is bad. The other option is that the water got down into your started and shorted ruining your starter. So first thing might be pull the starter and bench test it at home or take it to autozone. They have a machine there to test starters. If the starter checks ok then likely it’s your wiring. Btw I always keep my battery cables loose when trouble shooting for that reason. And I always keep a 13mm wrench in the car to disconnect the battery for that very reason. That’s a scary moment. Mostly caused the the engine compartment spray down. It may dry up in a few days and be ok too. Good luck and be careful.

@@schrockahasi I will try it. That makes perfect sense. Thank you. I will follow up once I get it fugured out

So my battery cables were so bad the insulation was cracked and exposing the copper. They looked like original cables. I never changed them in the 1 1/2 Years I've owned the car. The Starter was indeed fried. I went to Autozone and got a remanufactured one. So new cables, new starter, and I even got that fancy DME Relay with the ft9 solid state lights.(100 bucks) . The car started right up but I drove it and it made some weird noise but engaging the clutch between shifts quieted it until a new gear. I then parked. About an hour later I went to start and it almost like the starter isnt engaging the flywheel, just zzzzzzmmmmmms.

@@Porsche944 you did good getting the new cables and that dme from F9 is a solid investment. Starter should be under warranty if it’s from autozone and you just got it. But it’s sounds like you might have something going on in the clutch or transaxle. Does it sound like it’s cranking hard. Flywheel gears don’t normally wear out so whirring sound is solenoid not engaging. I’d just pull the starter take it back for a new one and then try and troubleshoot the clutch/transaxle problem. If the starter tests good you might still have grounding or wire issue going to starter.

@@schrockahasi It doesn't crank hard, it actually cranked easier than before. I had the clutch plate replaced less than a year ago, I just took it back to Autozone and the starter gear was engaging only about 1/2 Way on their bench test... They had to order another one but the guy said they have been having issues with remanufactured Starters lately. I think mine was just bad. You are a big help, I will get that starter Tuesday and will see how it goes. Thanks so much...

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What you are looking for depends on what level you are looking to take the car. If you just want to own a 944 anyone will do. Best case is the car is running and driven regularly. I’ve had some that were in great shape or average shape and horrible shape. Just depends on what finish level you hope to end up with. It’s hard to take a rough car and make it perfect. I’m doing that now and it’s taking a long time. Car should start quick and drive without wobbles. Abandoned 944s also need to be avoided. As for performance the car is the largest 4 cylinder produced at the time. With the S model and turbo you get a lot of performance but the NA base models are still fast enough to be enjoyable. Performance shops for 944 like Lindsay racing can help HP.

@@schrockahasi Brilliant, thank you! Would you mind if I maybe sent you a listing I've seen to check whether it's a no-go? It's suspiciously cheap without any obvious deficit which is raising some alarm bells

@@jamesrudolf2635 sure. Send link to [email protected].

Two things. One you could pull the electric plug at the back of the motor and plug a test light into the power wire to test to see if you are getting electric back there. Next with the power or battery disconnected you can the mechanical aspects of the sunroof by rotating the motor with a wrench. Don’t test the rotation with the power on because the motor might kick on. This will tell you if it’s a power or mechanical issue. You could also test the sunroof motor alone by jumping the motor with 12v wires from the battery or plug in power supply. If no power motor check fuses, relay or micro switch in the front of the sunroof.

Thanks! I love TR6s one of the best looking cars ever. My brother had several spitfires, also great looking, but reliable? (Not so much...)

I sprayed it before I got the bushings on. Paint also help prevent rust so those road dings in the paint don’t cause problem and it just looks better. Sometimes dish soap helps those bushings on and off. The bar should go on fairly easy if it’s done in the right order. Good luck. Glad the video helps. That’s what I do them for.

This was preventive maintenance trying to reset the clock on the alternator which was getting old at the time. New alternative are reasonably priced by Porsche standards and worth it to replace the whole thing if you are having charging issues.

I think can help but in the end I bought the updated electronic board from F9 and have been happy with it.

No, sorry I'm not familiar with that. Porsche crest seem to use a technique that is called "cloisonne' " Thats pouring a clear enamel into a metal mold, an ancient technique, but not sure how to do that if that's what you want to do.

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That video will give you an idea of how the badges are made and at 55 seconds you can see the paint being applied

You are welcome. I hope it helps.

You need a couple things. Volt meter. A test light and a long jumper wire with gator clips. If you don’t have spark check with test light and key in on position for power at coils on the black wire. If you don’t have power there that’s your problem. Then try jumping a direct wire on gator clips from positive side of battery to black wire on coil. That should automatically give you power at coil and therefore spark. Word of warning car will not shut off at key id it starts so have car in neutral and blocked because it shut it off you have to remove the jumper wire from battery to coil. (Ask me how I know lol) also I always keep ground cable on battery loose invade I need to shut off electric quickly but finger tight to make contact.

Also they make a spark tester you can plug into the spark plug wire to plugs and visually see a light of you have a spark. Needs to be made for high volts. Normal test light is too small for that. Good luck

If it doesn’t run or even sputter with starter fluid it’s not a fuel problem it’s a spark issue. So you have to make sure you are getting spark first.

Do you have power at the fuel pump? To check for fuel pressure there is a bolt at the end of the fuel rail that comes off. Be careful because it has a ball bearing in it that will fall out when you open it. You can check fuel pressure with a gauge kit around $30 should be 30 psi or so. If not then you have a fuel delivery problem. If it’s a spark issue jump the coil from battery positive to black wire on coil and see if you get a spark. Positive wire at starter sometimes gets rusty so that’s another place to remove and clean up. Disconnect the battery first. Good luck. Let me know if you fix this.

Update: the car is now up and running Two culprits for two different issues: Crank no start was due to cracked and exposed injector 2 prong connectors (plugging into the injectors themselves) . $20 Fix- purchased new connectors on ebay - lopped the old ones and hooked up the new ones and it fired right up. Random idle surge and random stalls: After getting back to actually driving it- I was still getting hit with random power surge and car randomly stalling driving around the neighborhood- Attention to the idea that this would happen when taking tight turns or simply driving through dips or even over speed bumps I was still stuck on the idea of a bad relay. I guess it took me a while to realize this as every time it happened to me I was overwhelmed with the feeling that I was still the guy in the middle of the road pushing my car out of traffic and back to the side while traffic or people simply passing by watched me confused because of the reoccurrence- as If I were doing it for sport. Great cardio!👍🏻 Fix $0 (just a bit of attention some hair loss and putting two and two together) being under the impression that it might be a faulty DME relay I began swapping between two extras that I would bring along with me- after every stall I would go under to swap the relay and began noticing that it would fire back up with the quick swap(I was on to something) , leading me to believe that it was possibly the relays themselves (but rotating between three faulty relays???) Time after time I would drive the car back home get it back into the driveway scratching my head trying to convince myself to not go and source a 4th Relay - letting the car sit for about another month after pulling out the little hair that I had left I eventually bought that 4th relay and plugged it in on a Saturday morning - fired the car- sat it- warmed it up and made a few prayers hoping to the car gods that this was my day that I wouldn’t have to go to bed knowing that there was an issue with my 924… checked the oil and decided it was time to take it for the final lap. Jumping back into the car - throwing my feet into the footwell- shut the door behind me and as I went to dump the clutch in I by accidentally gave the board a small kick from behind and to my surprise the car completely shut off! In that exact moment I had realized it had nothing to do with a faulty relay but simply a small wire gremlin that was sitting under my dash playing mind tricks on me. My car just shut off on me - I didn’t even get to move it an inch forward but I suddenly had a feeling of sweet “what if” rush through my body. I quickly fired the car again - gave the board a small nudge trying my best replicate the movement and it stalled again- and after about the 5th time of intentionally stalling the poor thing I smiled and laughed and realized that I could finally point my finger in the direction of where the gremlin was hiding. After much tugging, pulling and grunting with my caveman hands I discovered fire laying upside down and peeking one eye up into the dashboard before realizing it might be wiser to just unbolt the darn thing to avoid back Injury. I was able to pinpoint the loose connector and drive through every dip and bump in the road with a smile. So all in all the subtle movements of the wires and the board I was creating every time I was reaching and tugging underneath the dash to swap the relay - almost as if I were unknowingly tucking and pushing the wires back into place on the board itself creating enough reposition that would then reconnect whatever loose wire it was disconnecting every time I was driving the car over uneven or bumpy parts of the road - I’d like to think the car gods did answer my prayers this day but they definitely made me work for it 🙏 Thanks for all the feedback🤙🏼 It’s the little things that make the difference.