Which capsule did you use for the nomann?

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I knew right away that #1 is Neumann bc it has something like a compression on it, second mic has more dynamics and I wouldn't like that if I wanted a 87 clone, other than that #2 is veeeery slighlty darker and sounds almost exaclty the same if we forget the dynamics thing. Thank you for the comparison!

You are good and funny LOL. This one of the best clone shootouts on KZfaq, congrats! And for that reason, I subscribed :).

Excellent sound production. What is your vocal chain and which compressor, pluggins hsve you used.

ABAB ABAB Perfect System for Analysis. About time somebody did one right

I think I liked Mic 1 a little better, whatever that was.

I was so bummed out because I did not see which microphone was 1 or 2. During my listening I was sure that mic 2 was the Neumann, and that made me sad because I liked that one the most, it sounded more mix ready and less rough in the high end for my ears. Scrolled through the description and found the answer, and got super happy that in fact my favorite was the one I can make and afford for my own studio. The microphone looked different than what's shown on MP-webpage though, its the S87 I guess? Did you upgrade any parts or choose something specific to get that high-end roll off? Great Video!

When you built the mic did you go with the flat response or high end rolloff setup? I just bought the mic kit and was curious what the most similar way to go. Thanks for the video!

I love naumann U 87. It is my dream CM.

This was great! Thank you so much for doing this. The mic parts sounded sooo good to me! It was the clear winner to my ears! I modded a tube mic using Microphone parts RK-12 capsule and it is so nice. I choose it over my neuman tlm 102 all the time. Microphone parts rules!

BOOM, mic 2 is warmer, more buttery and perfect for voice. I prefer the tone quality.

Almost identical only on the bass, I like mic 2..

I thought the first mic sounded better all the way through until you put everything in the mix and then I thought #2 😅

mic 1 was clearly milky smooth u87 mic 2 was not that glued together in all the freq. more bass (as "modern" music looks for now). i think they did this intentionally? maybe your build? wish youhad a build one from roswell so i can hear the comparison as you a/b test was the best one i heard

I do these kind of comparisons a lot and they sound the same to me. Nice!

What made me realize that Mic #1 was the Neumann was the transient response. It just picked up the kicks, snares, and strumming of the guitar better. All percussive elements sounded snappier and crisper. There was barely a difference on vocals. A small difference, yes, but still barely a difference. You'd be hard-pressed to pick the difference in those mics out in a full mix on vocals.

nice

One thing - that guitar sounds APSOLUTELY AMAZING. At first I was sure its Martin because I skipped the beginning of the video - and was wondering what strings you use to get such clean bass - then I saw its not Martin at all.. Its better !

Seems indistinguishable to me

I can’t hear a “better” 🤷🏻‍♂️ 🌹

with eyes closed i bet 95% percent of the experts in the comments here could be able to tell when the mic was changed let alone which was better. zero meaningful difference between the two. struggling to hear any differences at all

On my Focal cms50s the U87 gives a bit smoother mids and is natural in the fundamental, The MP sounds every bit as good if not preferable in the mix here, though - it (somehow) tracks the upper harmonic more smoothly and your voice benefited a lot from it in this tune & arrangement. For my taste the U87 sounded a bit too crispy and inconsistent from about 5kHz on up.

wow I like mic 2 better

One seems to represent more of the frequency spectrum. If that's the Nomann I'm buying one. I have David Royer's replica , Mojave MA- 300 love it. Good shoot out

i just had a 990XF circuit mod and K 47 capsule installed in my 990 and OMG sooo good over stock 990

I’m only listening on beats earbuds, but…the difference between the two sounds negligible to me. There is a slight difference, but not enough to matter I don’t think. I could make a mix work with either mic based on this. Thanks for going to the trouble, man!

I call Mic #2, slightly beefier (low-mid). More is more.

I don`t know about nubmer of each mic. But on my home acustic I am already can bit feel pure neumann sound. Regularly it is has very good clarity and in this case mic 1 sound for me more like pure neumann. Second one also sound good but sound bit more dirty and scene is not same clear. but diference is very small. Just bit more low sound contrast and not same bright sound. maybe because capsule anyway not original. In china they try made a premium copies but some small details they anyway can`t replicate same as it did on original factory. After using FX is really no difference in sound

Clone sounded better 😂

Jim Carey out here making music lol

Do you know what the exact model name for the fully assembled version of the mic you have?

are you selling the models you made?

To be honest, I did not understand which number is which microphone :D

I'm impressed with the comparison, the similarity of the mics, and with myself (lol) that I was able to call which was which accurately. The cloned mic sounds to me like it has a bit more color and gain, which is actually a bad thing in most situations. The OG has more of a flat response and stays clean at the louder parts. The difference was heard mostly in the mids/hi mids, where the lows and highs were all but indestingquishable from each other. That said, the difference in sound is way closer than the difference in price. Perhaps with some subtle tweaking of the clone design an even closer sound can be achieved, so I'd still say that the project is not a bad choice.

Your DIY sounds best on Lower Drums especially kick). Neumann beats it in everything else.

I prefer mic2

Mic #1 sounded smoother, warmer, less brittle. More bottom and high end. So guessed Neumann correctly. I felt #2 broke up on the loud parts, but perhaps due to coarseness. But was close.

Nice sound with inexpensive equipment, except the U87. At first, I couldn't tell them apart, until he started singing higher notes. Then, I noticed the S3-87 was slightly darker. Less noticeable in the mix. Good for the money, tho. I've never had the opportunity to compare my MJE "Fatboy" to a U87; but it might be in the same league.

I did not like the clone on its own but i was surprised how powerful and round the clone mix was sounding. Clone in the mix is my favorite!

For me it sounds like the clone is more sensitive to dynamics while the Neumann is more neutral and flat. I have to admit except for the vocals I liked the clone each time better then the actual Neumann.

Would like to have heard a 3rd, cheaper condenser in there too. Great vid though.

seriously thought mic 2 would be the neumann..i pick that as the better mic...my slight tinnitus on the left ear certainly helped too

Love your style . I could not tell the difference on any take . Performance is almost everything . GOOD JOB .

I'm sitting here with all new Creative speakers for my computer, and I'm not completely convinced by them yet, but to my ears, with these speakers, I feel that Mic 1 has sliiightly more presence than Mic 2. Mostly on guitar, actually. I thought it would be easy to hear with the shakers, but there they sound about the same. The difference on guitar is almost like a fresh set of strings has been put on between the mics, and for the vocals, "s" sounds slightly muted in Mic 2. I think both mics are pretty good, and I would have a hard time choosing if I didn't have to pay for them, but they're not quite a matched pair. If I were to guess, I would say Mic 2 is the Neumann with older components. Building the Nomann is a good investment, though, depending on how much the components cost.

Great job with the video and playing! There are small but noticeable differences between the two mics. The MP mic had a touch more low-end (on guitar) and a very pleasant hi-mid bump. Thanks for sharing!

Wow

Great review and great performance!!

NO…..!!!!! I am in disbelief after reading the description... That last paragraph of the description is GOLD.

marvelous review. it just rocks. 👍👍👍 and about the mic... they sound pretty close to me, just noticed a really tiny difference and i guessed the 1rst one was the Neumann, but boy you have made a Nodoubtmann great replica. Thanks so so so much for this review, it's as enlightenment as enjoyable. Thanks ! 🙏