I’m some would agree with you and others wouldn’t but it’s an interesting comment / opinion 👍🏻👍🏻

I've come to accept it a tamiya is about the expierience building it then bringing it to life. Its a very different type of ownership. I have a midnight pumpkin and it's actually my main runner. I'm not brutal with it but not exactly easy either. It's a very fun truck though. I did a CRP upper lower arm conversion on the front but I screwed the geometry up so it steers terribly. Eventually I'll fix it but the truck is a blast and my dogs love to chase it.

@@mrlt1 Yes, I agree. I bought an XR311 re-re just because I appreciated the fact that it was Tamiya's first off-road RC car. Driving wise it is fragile and not very good but then I decided to actually make it reasonably good to drive by fitting exquisite metal parts. I look at it and marvel at the quality of the engineering. It is like a piece of artwork! Of course I appreciate that the Gorgon is a good machine but it has a flappy thin plastic body and in a few years it will be forgotten.

LOL it’s Ok, you can like them both. I’m surprised at the Gorgan for the price point. If Arrma sorts its part prices out and parts availability outside the US, it would make it even stronger a beginner choice.

@RCKickschannel I actually only buy Arrma for my younger brother. He lives in Florida, where there is no issue with parts at all. He is also the ," can only run them, not really fix them." Kinda guy. It's a fantastic choice for the not so mechanically inclined.

LOL 👍🏻

100% thant can be done :)

I think you are reading more into it than it is. Sometimes buses just come along in twos and threes. No master plan or agenda, that's just how things unfold. I just report on how I see it and if that doesn't fit with your feelings, well that's OK. I think you are projecting on the "brand snob" comment as the last few videos are talking about cheaper alternatives to Tamiya that are better, not more expensive options. Truly, go back and watch them and you will see you bent the content to fit your own narrative. It's fascinating. I will say the next few videos are going to be high end RC, so actually your "brand snob" comment would be more accurate for them.

Now that is a good point. Can something really be better than the sum of its parts? 100%

Yep and people think I use stunt doubles 🤷🏼‍♂️

For the money, I’m shocked how much you get with the Gorgon.

@@RCKickschannel yeah absolutely mate. Shame about the parts... 😆

Yes you sure do and that racks up 👍🏻

Love my Frog and it drives way better than expected.

​@@RCKickschannel, I raced my Frog indoors, on wood floors, in 1990 - 91. It was already 8 years old when I started racing it. Everyone else was running Manta Ray hybrids, with lots of RW Racing upgrade parts, and then the Top Force, when it was released. Most of the other guys racing didn't even know what the Frog was. Eventually during a heat it got pushed into a wall, and the chassis snapped in two behind the front suspension. Retired it and decided to try race a Wild One against the 4WD cars. I didn't have money to buy a new car, plus my Dad wouldn't let me buy another RC car. I had two, which was one too many as far as he was concerned. Rebuilt the Frog in 2000, with obsolete NOS parts I had collected from Model Shops around the UK during the 1990s. I have a new, unpainted original body and two sets of original Frog decals knocking about. Left the Frog on display in my parent's office at their home in Ireland. Now also got a NIB Frog re-re. Will build it some day. My Mum died Friday week ago, and I was back in Ireland for her funeral. I brought my original Frog back over to England yesterday. Trip down memory lane. The original body has holes in it where a neighbour's Cocker Spaniel took a dislike to the car, bit it, and ran off with it in it's mouth. And it has Ghostbusters stickers on the body shell, - the first Ghostbusters film was released in 1984 too.

Everything in the UK costs more than the US apart from our mobile phone contracts for some random reason. The issue has become worse as the UK pound is almost at its lowest vs the dollar since 1985! This drives up already high import prices.

Yep the Maxx is a bit spicy for younger drivers. The Gorgon is spot on and not as heavy.

🤷🏼‍♂️ No master plan. Sometimes buses just come along together in two and threes. Not planned that way, it just does. Right guess what’s next? Trickbits build time!

Welcome to the UK everything is more expensive

So many RTR cars come with less than ideal servos, not sure why manufacturers don’t just fit appropriate servos but really it’s down to saving money, especially on ultra entry level price point products like the Gorgon. The slipper sounds like a strange one. Have you tried dismantling it to see what the pads are like? It might be worth swapping the pads out if some contaminants have gotten on the pads. That’s not expensive and the place I would start if it’s done up really tight but still slipping. I would also check that it was put together correctly as mistakes do happen in manufacturing so someone could have missed something small but important out. Polycarbonate bodies will always crack and it’s well worth doing the rubber glue and edge tap trick when you get a new body.

@@RCKickschannel Bang for buck I'm very impressed overall with the design. It's quick and strong. And for a novice it's perfect. No real adjustments an easy to work on. I don't regret getting it at all. Only other issue to watch out for is the screws for motor mounting can pull through the plastic. People over tighten them cause the motor can move. But I've used a fibre washers and haven't had that issue. I'm thinking one or two things. It was pulling wheelies when I first got it out of the box and the power surprised me. On the third battery it started slipping. Figured it needed adjustment but also check for contamination. But seem clean and not worn out. So adjusted but it carried on slipping. I eventually ran out of adjustment. Maybe the spring or clutch is weak. The servo saver issue seems similar a weak spring maybe. Couldn't get full range but found the servo was lose. It worked better but the servo saver kicks in at around ½ range out of the box. Anyways ordered new parts hopefully it solves the issues.

Price point is more and I hear it needs a good few upgrade parts to get it working reliably. I have always wanted to get a Mad Van in the show as I do like the look of the. Brushless latest version.

Do you have a link? After giving the Gorgon a good six packs and some hard abuse, I want to dig into it and see how things held up. I might as well upgrade some parts as I will be running it as my personal little park basher

100% the LB is an icon and really yes, the people who should be purchasing the Lunchbox are the older vintage lovers that remember it fondly. For younger children the Lunchbox has just become so vintage, you can get far superior offerings for the same or less money these days and the Gorgon shows just how far the LB has fallen behind. A few people have commented an interesting point, will we remember the Gorgon in five years while the LB has been going strong for decades? 🤔

You make an interesting point. The Lunchbox is more than the sum of its parts that’s for sure an an Icon. Will the Gorgon stand the test of time? 🤔

Not a fan? I really like it myself. The graphics are not too OTT, the colours are vibrant and I like the chassis parts that match. Some say it looks a bit generic.

The one in the video is the one you had back in the day.

Yep that sums it up nicely. I used to recommend a Lunchbox for younger kids and that’s why my daughter had one when she was five, but things have moved on so far now for what you can get for the same money. I still think every vintage RC fan needs a LB in the collection.

Yep one could make a point that the Lunchbox body is stunning and when painted up well looks amazing. It has been made into all kinds of iconic vans like the A Team, police and ambulance vans, Stranger Things van to name just a few.

Or even a Tamiya WT-01 chassis. 😀😀

​@@Alan-cg8gxWt-01 is discontinued

Yep just down the road from me

In the UK it’s been a bit of a mess for Arrma recently.

Yep, all come at once for some random reason. Not planned that way and if you watch the videos, it’s not that bad. Moving onto the Trickbits build next

@@RCKickschannel keep up the good work m8 i love the channel